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27ninjabunnies
United States2486 Posts
On May 27 2014 05:40 Tehpoofter wrote: What would have been funny is if all the factions were left and no town and each team was trying to prove they were town in the thread. You scum you..., | ||
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Tehpoofter
United States2911 Posts
"Oh btw austin you're red" I like hte idea of the 4 competing factions each trying to catch the one in front of them making like a circle Mercury > Venus > Jupiter > Mars > Mercury so there was a possibility of joint Mercury/Jupiter wins and Venus/Mars wins correct? | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On May 27 2014 05:36 ShiaoPi wrote: The recruiter being replaced is a one time ability that also took away a powerrole of the djinn. Town win would have been difficult, I know that, which was also the reason why I stacked it with vets. Also as mentioned above I was counting on the scumteams disrupting and shooting each other. Maybe too much, but without trying to run the setup I would not know how it plays out, since there are too many possibilities For PYP. LoL I ran best and worst case scenarios (with 60+ possible roles!) and we tried a practice game as well which sort of gave us an idea where things could go. With a game like this that's extremely swingy and where balance is very difficult I think it's kind of important to at least have some idea IMO. It really sucks to have all that sword go down the drain dude, my sympathies. I hope people enjoyed it at least. | ||
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ShiaoPi
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
On May 27 2014 05:43 Tehpoofter wrote: HF check was so damn shady. "Oh btw austin you're red" I like hte idea of the 4 competing factions each trying to catch the one in front of them making like a circle Mercury > Venus > Jupiter > Mars > Mercury so there was a possibility of joint Mercury/Jupiter wins and Venus/Mars wins correct? yes that was the idea behind it as well. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
that makes the game unbelievably depressing for town to play | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
because there weren't any fucking good lynches. | ||
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Tehpoofter
United States2911 Posts
 Town could have used some alignment cop and maybe a jailer or something instead of just immune vets because if one of them got lynched and spilled the beans on their role or did was slam did it was worth it to try and just shoot thme and recruit outside. | ||
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ShiaoPi
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
I do know that the setup was scumfavored. But also considering the speed of the actual recruitments as they happened I thought it would be fine. Also stacking town like mad with vets did not help that much I guess. Maybe more immune blues? The thing is if one of the blues actually stole a djinn from the scumteams, they would have been a massive asset to town. I mean they could have been unlimited vigs, or even protect the entirety of town for 1 KP. I just really wanted to try out the idea of having 4 recruiting factions trying to outsmart each other and hunting each other. Anyway, Lessons learned: Do not try to host another themed large game, I have funny and crazy ideas which just end in imba imba imba. Recruitment roles are a pain in the ass to balance and I should probably stay away from them as far as possible I do hope the game was still enjoyable to most of you. | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
On May 27 2014 05:47 marvellosity wrote: I fucked around because i couldn't find good lynches because there weren't any fucking good lynches. I know how you feel :/ Although I guess thrawn would have been a decent lynch (useless and semi-scummy + actually scum). | ||
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Tehpoofter
United States2911 Posts
On May 27 2014 05:47 marvellosity wrote: I fucked around because i couldn't find good lynches because there weren't any fucking good lynches. thrawn and kush got "passes" for bad reasons imo. Koshi playaed pretty well so did HF for scum everyone else was just town though Although Tamburini could have fooled me. | ||
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On May 27 2014 05:33 layabout wrote: riotky's role is actually really cool if someone is touched by maigc it's a bit complicated but anyone that isn't is conrfirmed vanilla town which would make it powerful. On the other hand recruiter mechanics fuck it up, but hey if he announces someone it's likely that multiple factions would target them and cancel out Lol, I made that crap up. I was VT, and I had a growing scum read on bunnies, wanted to reaction test her. I also had a doctor read on someone and wanted to eat a bullet for them. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6786 Posts
On May 27 2014 05:46 marvellosity wrote: Problem is you have 4 mafia on day 1 who won't even be behaving like mafia because they're not a team that makes the game unbelievably depressing for town to play I guess this is my overall problem with the game. D1literally is worthless for the town. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed it and it made me remember how much I enjoy mafia, however I'm glad I died or it would have got really frustrating really fast. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On May 27 2014 05:48 Tehpoofter wrote: thrawn and kush got "passes" for bad reasons imo. Koshi playaed pretty well so did HF for scum everyone else was just town though Although Tamburini could have fooled me. kush was town on day 1. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
 so i think an non-recruit scum faction might balance things up a lot moreotherwise i enjoyed being a faction | ||
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BlueyD
Canada437 Posts
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On May 27 2014 05:47 ShiaoPi wrote: Judging from your opinions, maybe it is for the best that this game ends in a trainwreck, I do know that the setup was scumfavored. But also considering the speed of the actual recruitments as they happened I thought it would be fine. Also stacking town like mad with vets did not help that much I guess. Maybe more immune blues? I just really wanted to try out the idea of having 4 recruiting factions trying to outsmart each other and hunting each other. Anyway, Lessons learned: Do not try to host another themed large game, I have funny and crazy ideas which just end in imba imba imba. Recruitment roles are a pain in the ass to balance and I should probably stay away from them as far as possible I do hope the game was still enjoyable to most of you. Who did you talk to on the balance team about this game? I think recruitment was one of those things I was told to avoid, though since your entire game revolved around it I guess that wasn't really an option. Don't give up hosting just because of this dude. Your ideas definitely have potential. We need to have giant crazy ass themed games to be an option somehow, right? (and I'm sure as he'll not hosting another lol. and neither is GM  | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6786 Posts
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