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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
May 26 2014 21:07 GMT
#4861
I don't want to write an(other) essay about the rate of posting and the absurd amount of it that was irrelevant but has this forum really changed so much that big games are like this now?
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 26 2014 21:07 GMT
#4862
On May 27 2014 06:07 layabout wrote:
I don't want to write an(other) essay about the rate of posting and the absurd amount of it that was irrelevant but has this forum really changed so much that big games are like this now?


there's nothing else to do when there's 0 scum to find
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 26 2014 21:08 GMT
#4863
Huh... Apparently town had no active powers at all. I think it would have been somewhat fair to have some roles (like recruitment protection, Cop, etc.)
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 26 2014 21:08 GMT
#4864
On May 27 2014 06:07 layabout wrote:
I don't want to write an(other) essay about the rate of posting and the absurd amount of it that was irrelevant but has this forum really changed so much that big games are like this now?

For the most part big games don't exist anymore I think. This one was never going to start without Koshi and his mass recruitment.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
May 26 2014 21:10 GMT
#4865
On May 27 2014 05:47 ShiaoPi wrote:
Judging from your opinions, maybe it is for the best that this game ends in a trainwreck,

I do know that the setup was scumfavored. But also considering the speed of the actual recruitments as they happened I thought it would be fine. Also stacking town like mad with vets did not help that much I guess. Maybe more immune blues? The thing is if one of the blues actually stole a djinn from the scumteams, they would have been a massive asset to town. I mean they could have been unlimited vigs, or even protect the entirety of town for 1 KP.
I just really wanted to try out the idea of having 4 recruiting factions trying to outsmart each other and hunting each other.

Anyway, Lessons learned:
Do not try to host another themed large game, I have funny and crazy ideas which just end in imba imba imba.
Recruitment roles are a pain in the ass to balance and I should probably stay away from them as far as possible

I do hope the game was still enjoyable to most of you.


Don't give up hosting ShiaoPi. I've made a bunch of mistakes hosting before. You live and you learn. There were some pretty cool ideas in this game.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 26 2014 21:10 GMT
#4866
On May 27 2014 06:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2014 06:07 layabout wrote:
I don't want to write an(other) essay about the rate of posting and the absurd amount of it that was irrelevant but has this forum really changed so much that big games are like this now?

For the most part big games don't exist anymore I think. This one was never going to start without Koshi and his mass recruitment.


I guess it was fitting considering the theme of this setup that Koshi recruited the necessary people to play
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
May 26 2014 21:11 GMT
#4867
On May 27 2014 06:08 Xatalos wrote:
Huh... Apparently town had no active powers at all. I think it would have been somewhat fair to have some roles (like recruitment protection, Cop, etc.)

I was contemplating giving you up to 8 blues (all the same as they actually were in the game). The thing is even a single steal from one of the blues would swing the balance heavily, since it would depend on the djinn stolen. You could have gotten a no bulletlimit Vig/Roleblocker, a doc, a reviver and all kinds of other roles. So I was hesitant. Also I wanted to keep the game focused on djinn instead of the characters of the game series. But I agree as I said before the setup was scumfavored.
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
May 26 2014 21:11 GMT
#4868
On May 27 2014 06:08 Xatalos wrote:
Huh... Apparently town had no active powers at all. I think it would have been somewhat fair to have some roles (like recruitment protection, Cop, etc.)


I like steve's claim of the three protection potions. That would have been awesome to have
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
May 26 2014 21:13 GMT
#4869
On May 27 2014 06:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2014 06:07 layabout wrote:
I don't want to write an(other) essay about the rate of posting and the absurd amount of it that was irrelevant but has this forum really changed so much that big games are like this now?

For the most part big games don't exist anymore I think. This one was never going to start without Koshi and his mass recruitment.

Big PM games are possibly the funnest thing + the arkham setups were so good.

It's hilarious that koshi's strategy was all about getting a load of doctors out and then he died n1
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
May 26 2014 21:15 GMT
#4870
Can we agree that my fake claim bait was awesome. xD
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-26 21:16:58
May 26 2014 21:15 GMT
#4871
On May 27 2014 06:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2014 06:07 layabout wrote:
I don't want to write an(other) essay about the rate of posting and the absurd amount of it that was irrelevant but has this forum really changed so much that big games are like this now?

For the most part big games don't exist anymore I think. This one was never going to start without Koshi and his mass recruitment.

Pretty much this. Both ShiaoPi and I had large themed games, this game and Infernal Affairs respectively, that just didn't start. It was around that time that Fool pretty much killed large themed games because no one played in them. Until this game, Catastrophe Mafia was going to be the last large themed game for a while, though I am glad that this game got revived even though it ended like this T_T.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 26 2014 21:18 GMT
#4872
large themed games are pretty fun and always unbalanced but still fun
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
May 26 2014 21:18 GMT
#4873
Maybe after some time away I will try another large themed game. Probably without any recruiters

I do worry though that large games just do not start anymore as Crossfire99 said.
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 26 2014 21:18 GMT
#4874
On May 27 2014 06:18 ShiaoPi wrote:
Maybe after some time away I will try another large themed game. Probably without any recruiters

I do worry though that large games just do not start anymore as Crossfire99 said.


not with invitation pro koshi at your service!
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-26 21:21:28
May 26 2014 21:21 GMT
#4875
Still find it extremely amusing how he recruited us all for this game and ended up dying n1, xD.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 26 2014 21:39 GMT
#4876
On May 27 2014 06:15 Steveling wrote:
Can we agree that my fake claim bait was awesome. xD


Haha yeah, that worked out pretty well. Actually the only "power role" that did anything for town all game >.>
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 26 2014 21:40 GMT
#4877
On May 27 2014 06:39 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2014 06:15 Steveling wrote:
Can we agree that my fake claim bait was awesome. xD


Haha yeah, that worked out pretty well. Actually the only "power role" that did anything for town all game >.>


hey i killed mafia for you
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 26 2014 21:42 GMT
#4878
On May 27 2014 06:15 Crossfire99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2014 06:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 27 2014 06:07 layabout wrote:
I don't want to write an(other) essay about the rate of posting and the absurd amount of it that was irrelevant but has this forum really changed so much that big games are like this now?

For the most part big games don't exist anymore I think. This one was never going to start without Koshi and his mass recruitment.

Pretty much this. Both ShiaoPi and I had large themed games, this game and Infernal Affairs respectively, that just didn't start. It was around that time that Fool pretty much killed large themed games because no one played in them. Until this game, Catastrophe Mafia was going to be the last large themed game for a while, though I am glad that this game got revived even though it ended like this T_T.

How did foolishness kill them? I thought it was just that people didn't like them much anymore overall.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
May 26 2014 21:42 GMT
#4879
Thank god I don't have to keep reading this
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 26 2014 21:43 GMT
#4880
foolish didn't.

big games have to have a specific catch that makes people want to play, like LoL in wave's game.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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