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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 25 2014 14:51 GMT
#4041
I can say for 99.99% certainty that the "control" thing isn't related to recruiting new players for a faction. Since I know for a fact that it's a "temporary" effect - you can be controlled, you can be uncontrolled, etc.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 25 2014 15:27 GMT
#4042
On May 25 2014 23:51 Xatalos wrote:
I can say for 99.99% certainty that the "control" thing isn't related to recruiting new players for a faction. Since I know for a fact that it's a "temporary" effect - you can be controlled, you can be uncontrolled, etc.


Explain
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
May 25 2014 15:28 GMT
#4043
On May 25 2014 23:04 kushm4sta wrote:
DO U PEOPLE NOT GET IT LOL. SCUM ARE SCUMHUNTING.


i think this is hilarious
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
May 25 2014 15:39 GMT
#4044
WE still need to kill him.

##Vote: austinmcc
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
May 25 2014 15:41 GMT
#4045
@Austin you claimed you were not anti town?
If that was true it would be actually funny to keep him alive so the scum factions have to deal with it. If he was speaking the truth they have a higher priority to kill him than we do. I think?
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
May 25 2014 15:48 GMT
#4046
k voting austin
sorry i haven't been around, last two days have been pretty hectic for me

other people who have dropped off the face of the earth: tambo, valenius, thrawn off the top of my head
i mean yeah tambo and valenius have posted recently but that doesn't change the fact that they're still just trying to just get by
now uncertain on ritoky. the defense "feels" genuine but i can't really put my finger on why; looking at his big post it's pretty much just commentary and i don't really agree with his reads lmao.
i dislike the defense of yell0w and hapa's standpoint makes sense to me. if you've got an actual strong scumread there's no purpose to go with rng over a read.

so after today's lynch, ok with lynching:
- tambo
- valenius
- thrawn
- yell0w
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
May 25 2014 16:11 GMT
#4047
On May 25 2014 15:32 kushm4sta wrote:
austin if you were red in this scenario, what would you do?
Not defend your stupid face.



On May 25 2014 17:10 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2014 17:05 Cephiro wrote:
On May 17 2014 05:32 Cephiro wrote:
/in

I hope this won't start until two more weeks, then my holidays start and I can play properly... :3


traveling atm, reason for absence. Won't be able to play properly till wed. Quite a bit behind, tried to skim a bit nyt i'm horribad w/ smartphones. I'll try to get a phonepost vote in w/ This later, or now if someone trustworthy trlls me atarget we're cpnsolidatong on, fuck fixing typosn , takes tuo lomg.


holyflare claimed a guilty result on austinmcc
HF, so that everyone, including the Good Sir of Blazing, understands, did you get a GUILTY result or a thing that says THIS BRO MAFIA or even a RED check. Color kinda important to me here, but I don't think you got a color back?


On May 25 2014 18:03 geript wrote:
Austin... Why didn't you recruit me? You make me so sad. I had a townread on you to. Fucking ABBA. I hope I get recruited. I really want to be 3P at some point.

see below


On May 25 2014 19:47 Xatalos wrote:
austinmcc: There are some things that I'd like to know before I decide if I want to lynch you or not.

1) You were in Koshi's faction?
2) Did you "recruit" anyone yet?
3) What does "recruiting" actually do? Does the target become non-town?
4) What's the specific flavor on "recruiting" someone? Is it something like "being controlled by a Djinn"?
5) If so, I have reason to believe that this state of being controlled is temporary. That's why I have difficulty believing that it works like you said. If you make your target share your QT and stuff, won't he just reveal everything if he goes back to normal?
6) Do you have KP?
7) If so, who did you shoot last night?

(1) Already answered, no.
(2) Yes.
(3) Depends.
(4) My flavor says nothing about control.
(5) Not temporary, except I guess death.
(6) In a way
(7) In a way

(Also, my recruiting CANNOT be temporary, because recruited dudes get QT access. I can't give someone QT access, then have them disappear and go tell everyone who's there)



On May 25 2014 23:39 kitaman27 wrote:
If I had to guess, austin is just fake claiming recruiter to make us paranoid about any obvious townies. He was caught and had nothing to lose.

A recruiter mechanic doesn't make sense in this setup. Suppose his faction recruits a member from a mafia faction. Then they would have the complete scum list for that team. Think of how fast the game would fall apart that way. It doesn't work.

I make my fake claims fun or ... less recruiter-y. Also, whether it makes sense or not, it's here. If nothing else, it would APPEAR that there are other roles that mention control or recruiting or SOMETHING, so you KNOW that non-standard mechanics exist.



Couple other posts coming to clear up some stuff and look at my voters





Fe fi fo fum.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 25 2014 16:18 GMT
#4048
i just get alignments of town/not town
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
May 25 2014 16:18 GMT
#4049
Since trying to hide faction doesn't work, I'm mars. Fire. I THINK that all 4 factions are elemental djinn things, but don't know for sure. Mah nemesis IS another element.


Each night I can attach a fire djinn to someone. That djinn burns away the role that the person has and adds a new one (I have a set number of djinn, in my head they're pokemon, and each has a certain ability. I give the person that djinn, their old role is gone, they now have the role of the attached djinn).

If I target a townie, the townie is recruited and joins me. Their old role gone, new role in place. Not a control thing, and not temporary.

If I target a scummer, I burn away any role they had, lose my pokemans, and DO NOT recruit. Yes, it would be way unbalanced if I could recruit mafia, change their wincon.

However, fire is a bit unstable, and so IF I choose to add someone, I also burn a random person for 1 KP. So i HAVE KP, and I could pledge, for the most part, not to use it (i have to recruit more to have a shot at winning, but could hold off for a while or something), but I cannot target anyone in particular. Anyway, I can target a recruit, and if I use it the random KP hits, but I cannot target the KP.

Anyway, it looks like all the kill is flavored. My shot hit the smurf last night. Some of my posts from earlier this cycle are smurf-guy-focused, I know that peruvian had a sandro read on it and whatnot, but I'm the one who killed it. Anyway, you should be able to see that I talk more about the smurf kill than the others, it was mine, but no, I'm not actually suspicious of other folks for that kill, the peruvian is suspicious for his own crap.
Fe fi fo fum.
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
May 25 2014 16:19 GMT
#4050
Are you people rly that thick?
Read the bloody names that jumped first on the austin wagon.
These guys are all 3p. Their priority is to eliminate other 3p. fucks sake
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
May 25 2014 16:20 GMT
#4051
REMOVE YOUR VOTES FROM HIM YOU BLOODY SNOTS
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
May 25 2014 16:21 GMT
#4052
Oh geript, it may not be entirely obvious, but I didn't recruit you because I wasn't sure you were townie. Since I can't recruit scum I needed to look for super duper townie people on D1.


Also, as far as winning goes, I need the other faction dead. I need endgame. And I need to have 3-5 people recruited. Any less and our fire isn't strong enough. Any more and our fire is burning too hot. So I don't need to add people every night, but I gots to be allowed to get at least one more recruit in, then can go scumhunting with the recruit OR just scumhunt with text.
Fe fi fo fum.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 25 2014 16:22 GMT
#4053
and you were really having a go at me for killing the smurf hydra? tut tut austin.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Valenius
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1266 Posts
May 25 2014 16:24 GMT
#4054
On May 26 2014 01:18 austinmcc wrote:
Since trying to hide faction doesn't work, I'm mars. Fire. I THINK that all 4 factions are elemental djinn things, but don't know for sure. Mah nemesis IS another element.


Each night I can attach a fire djinn to someone. That djinn burns away the role that the person has and adds a new one (I have a set number of djinn, in my head they're pokemon, and each has a certain ability. I give the person that djinn, their old role is gone, they now have the role of the attached djinn).

If I target a townie, the townie is recruited and joins me. Their old role gone, new role in place. Not a control thing, and not temporary.

If I target a scummer, I burn away any role they had, lose my pokemans, and DO NOT recruit. Yes, it would be way unbalanced if I could recruit mafia, change their wincon.

However, fire is a bit unstable, and so IF I choose to add someone, I also burn a random person for 1 KP. So i HAVE KP, and I could pledge, for the most part, not to use it (i have to recruit more to have a shot at winning, but could hold off for a while or something), but I cannot target anyone in particular. Anyway, I can target a recruit, and if I use it the random KP hits, but I cannot target the KP.

Anyway, it looks like all the kill is flavored. My shot hit the smurf last night. Some of my posts from earlier this cycle are smurf-guy-focused, I know that peruvian had a sandro read on it and whatnot, but I'm the one who killed it. Anyway, you should be able to see that I talk more about the smurf kill than the others, it was mine, but no, I'm not actually suspicious of other folks for that kill, the peruvian is suspicious for his own crap.


Does it mention if the random 1kp fires if you fail to recruit a scum?
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
May 25 2014 16:27 GMT
#4055
On May 26 2014 01:22 marvellosity wrote:
and you were really having a go at me for killing the smurf hydra? tut tut austin.
OF COURSE. YOU FIENDISH FIEND

On May 26 2014 01:24 Valenius wrote:
Does it mention if the random 1kp fires if you fail to recruit a scum?

If I USE a fire djinn, the KP happens. So as long as I send in a recruit action, there's a KP action. I'ts not an equal and opposite thing, but essentially, if I send a fire djinn to recruit someone, someone gets burnt.

Also, fire bros are immune from that burning. Keeps me from getting LOL RNGed on N1 when I try to recruit.
Fe fi fo fum.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 25 2014 16:29 GMT
#4056
in any case, I am enjoying this tremendously.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 25 2014 16:29 GMT
#4057
Well, that is very weird. Because if I understand austin correctly, I have the power to convert someone from his faction back to town. But it doesn't seem like that makes any sense. He could then just reveal the names from everyone in that faction.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 25 2014 16:30 GMT
#4058
how many ppl did your faction start with? 1?
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 25 2014 16:36 GMT
#4059
Maybe I could even convert austin to town. HAHAHA
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 25 2014 16:38 GMT
#4060
Although it says "restore" so dunno if it's possible to do that for an original faction member.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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