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On May 25 2014 18:50 thrawn2112 wrote:
Once more shall I traverse the darkness, descending through the chaos to reach that accursed abyss. My path leads through the abyss, to the void itself. But fear not, I shall peer into the void, as I have done before, and I will see the the truths that have yet to pass.
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Can someone explain to me in small words why austin gave us that information about himself?
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It is fantastic scum vote draw though look at that shit
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austinmcc: There are some things that I'd like to know before I decide if I want to lynch you or not.
1) You were in Koshi's faction?
2) Did you "recruit" anyone yet?
3) What does "recruiting" actually do? Does the target become non-town?
4) What's the specific flavor on "recruiting" someone? Is it something like "being controlled by a Djinn"?
5) If so, I have reason to believe that this state of being controlled is temporary. That's why I have difficulty believing that it works like you said. If you make your target share your QT and stuff, won't he just reveal everything if he goes back to normal?
6) Do you have KP?
7) If so, who did you shoot last night?
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Also LOL @ Slam for becoming so townish after being "shot". I think this makes him town for almost certain.
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I refuse to work on the assumption that there are multiple recruiting factions
Ritoky sounds like a rolechecker. I don't understand the timing of his claim nor the fact that he doesn't appear to understand the mechanics of his role. Rito pls, can you clarify?
We need to decide if we are banking on winning with 3p which seems dumb or just killing slam/bh/austin.
Also, congratulations to anybody aligned to the adepts with a non-vanilla role that hasn't claimed halfway into day 2.
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On May 25 2014 19:48 Xatalos wrote:
Also LOL @ Slam for becoming so townish after being "shot". I think this makes him town for almost certain.
An exposed 3p faction has to appear to be working in towns best interest if they want any chance of town taking a risk and letting them live.
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On May 25 2014 19:55 layabout wrote:
I refuse to work on the assumption that there are multiple recruiting factions
Ritoky sounds like a rolechecker. I don't understand the timing of his claim nor the fact that he doesn't appear to understand the mechanics of his role. Rito pls, can you clarify?
We need to decide if we are banking on winning with 3p which seems dumb or just killing slam/bh/austin.
Also, congratulations to anybody aligned to the adepts with a non-vanilla role that hasn't claimed halfway into day 2.
My role isn't all that important, I think. I doubt the scum faction would kill me. Perhaps austin's faction, but eh, I think austin has to work with town for now.
I refuse to believe that BH/Slam are scum/3P together and decided to go with the brilliant idea of linking each other as the same alignment...
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So I have not caught up yet fully on everything that has happened so I will cast my vote now based on Hapa's current vote as I really like the way he built a case on rikoty, looking through his filter for the reason he casted his vote today bring up a good point on yellow, Im a reluctant to cast my vote on him because of our newbie game he was acting scummy and ended up being town but I trust in hapa right now.
##Vote: Yellow
I am headed to work now and if I can get some more reading and that will change my vote one way or the other it will happen but Im pretty much going all in with hapa ATM
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I guess austin's faction doesn't have KP though. It wouldn't really make that much sense combined with the control stuff. And it would explain why there was only 3 KP last night.
If there's someone out there who can prevent Djinni from controlling people, you should probably use that ability on me.
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On May 25 2014 19:55 layabout wrote:
I refuse to work on the assumption that there are multiple recruiting factions
Ritoky sounds like a rolechecker. I don't understand the timing of his claim nor the fact that he doesn't appear to understand the mechanics of his role. Rito pls, can you clarify?
We need to decide if we are banking on winning with 3p which seems dumb or just killing slam/bh/austin.
Also, congratulations to anybody aligned to the adepts with a non-vanilla role that hasn't claimed halfway into day 2.
I am getting ready for work, so I have about 15 minutes to vote and clarify things for anyone if they want it. Won't be back at deadline time.
Yes I think in general my role is basically a rolechecker, with a slight variation. As for why I claimed...I thought it was a good time to claim given the state of the game at that time. There wasn't a whole lot of reliable information or stuff in general going on at that point in the phase.
Currently I am leaning toward voting austin cuz he hasn't convinced me that his faction's win condition isn't exclusive from town's.
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On May 25 2014 20:51 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2014 19:55 layabout wrote:
I refuse to work on the assumption that there are multiple recruiting factions
Ritoky sounds like a rolechecker. I don't understand the timing of his claim nor the fact that he doesn't appear to understand the mechanics of his role. Rito pls, can you clarify?
We need to decide if we are banking on winning with 3p which seems dumb or just killing slam/bh/austin.
Also, congratulations to anybody aligned to the adepts with a non-vanilla role that hasn't claimed halfway into day 2. I am getting ready for work, so I have about 15 minutes to vote and clarify things for anyone if they want it. Won't be back at deadline time. Yes I think in general my role is basically a rolechecker, with a slight variation. As for why I claimed...I thought it was a good time to claim given the state of the game at that time. There wasn't a whole lot of reliable information or stuff in general going on at that point in the phase. Currently I am leaning toward voting austin cuz he hasn't convinced me that his faction's win condition isn't exclusive from town's.
Rolechecker is traditionally a mafia power. But if we work with the assumption that you are town:
Have you asked what happens if you were to target a non-town vanilla role?
When you got the result surely ninja would either be a town blue or scum. The response to this is to stay quiet (you think she is blue) or try to pressure/build a case etc (you think she is mafia).
So why tell us you are unsure about her and then share the check? You are potentially exposing two town blues to mafia, and you haven't used your check to try to influence the lynch, or any other clear town oriented benefit.
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Apologies for my absence.
My initial thoughts on austin are that we need to lynch him. There's no way that we can know (unless anyone has an alignment check) if he's true neutral or scum-sided. Every night that we let him recruit would push us further away from our win-condition if he's scum. If he's neutral, I'd be okay with letting him live, assuming what he's said so far is truthful.
My gut read on him is that he's not scum-sided, but I don't know if that's enough to not lynch him.
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On May 25 2014 21:01 layabout wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2014 20:51 ritoky wrote:On May 25 2014 19:55 layabout wrote:
I refuse to work on the assumption that there are multiple recruiting factions
Ritoky sounds like a rolechecker. I don't understand the timing of his claim nor the fact that he doesn't appear to understand the mechanics of his role. Rito pls, can you clarify?
We need to decide if we are banking on winning with 3p which seems dumb or just killing slam/bh/austin.
Also, congratulations to anybody aligned to the adepts with a non-vanilla role that hasn't claimed halfway into day 2. I am getting ready for work, so I have about 15 minutes to vote and clarify things for anyone if they want it. Won't be back at deadline time. Yes I think in general my role is basically a rolechecker, with a slight variation. As for why I claimed...I thought it was a good time to claim given the state of the game at that time. There wasn't a whole lot of reliable information or stuff in general going on at that point in the phase. Currently I am leaning toward voting austin cuz he hasn't convinced me that his faction's win condition isn't exclusive from town's. Rolechecker is traditionally a mafia power. But if we work with the assumption that you are town: Have you asked what happens if you were to target a non-town vanilla role? When you got the result surely ninja would either be a town blue or scum. The response to this is to stay quiet (you think she is blue) or try to pressure/build a case etc (you think she is mafia). So why tell us you are unsure about her and then share the check? You are potentially exposing two town blues to mafia, and you haven't used your check to try to influence the lynch, or any other clear town oriented benefit.
Well, because the variation is that it tells me if someone has been targeted by an action as well. Which is ridiculously unspecific information. I also gave out the info with, what? 20 hours left in the phase. And expected to get a reaction from her regarding the info. But she has been mia from the thread this entire phase. If you read my very large post earlier it says "her stock is plummeting"; it continues to plummet, but due to the unspecific nature of my information and her lack of response at all to it. I don't know if there's very much I can do to try and push it any further than I don't think she was a likely target for an ability last night.
Outside of that, there is a confirmed non-townie in the thread who has done nothing imo to convince me that he isn't lying about his "I can win with the town" claim. So uhhhh, sorry if I am a bit more concerned on the guy who admits he isn't town.
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cool now everybody is going to pop into the thread and write two paragraphs saying austin should be lynched.
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He seems like the safest lynch, but not necessarily the best one. If he really can win with town, it'd be good to have him on our side.
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I'm still not caught up anyone have a tldr?
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Involving Austin (tambo throwing a random vote on yellow not sure why we're not lynching him but I haven't been here so can't talk shit.
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On May 25 2014 21:18 Xatalos wrote:
He seems like the safest lynch, but not necessarily the best one. If he really can win with town, it'd be good to have him on our side.
It mostly comes down to whether we deal with him or the faction he is against deals with him
On May 25 2014 14:44 austinmcc wrote:
Steve, at least for me, I recruit as a night action.
IF there were other recruiters and IF they work in the same fashion, BH/slam couldn't have recruited each other or anything before the start of D2 basically, so one wouldn't have known about the other or anything.
I think this means we have to lynch him
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