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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
May 25 2014 17:05 GMT
#4081
On May 26 2014 02:02 BlueyD wrote:
Can the random kp land on scum?
Yes. It can hit anyone, will do 1 KP to people who aren't fire djinn/me.
Fe fi fo fum.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 25 2014 17:05 GMT
#4082
austin: Can you only convert yourself or can any of your converts recruit too?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
BlueyD
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada437 Posts
May 25 2014 17:06 GMT
#4083
What's the faction you need to kill off?
Zealot Chaaaaarge!
Valenius
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1266 Posts
May 25 2014 17:06 GMT
#4084
Right, based on the points I've said, I'm not lynching austin today.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
May 25 2014 17:06 GMT
#4085
so popular
Fe fi fo fum.
Valenius
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1266 Posts
May 25 2014 17:06 GMT
#4086
On May 26 2014 02:06 BlueyD wrote:
What's the faction you need to kill off?


There's no way he's answering that based on his previous response to giving his recruit..
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
May 25 2014 17:11 GMT
#4087
Vote Count - Day 2:


kushm4sta (3): Xatalos, mattisfoolish, Alakaslam, Cavalinho, Steveling, OnceKing, BlueyD
mtamburini (3): OnceKing, Blazinghand, jampidampi, tehpoofter, 27ninjabunnies
ritoky (0): layabout
BlueyD (0): kitaman27, marvellosity, Xatalos, yell0w
Steveling (0): Alakaslam
Thrawn2112 (0): Alakaslam, BlueyD
Blazinghand (0): Steveling
Erandorr (0): Holyflare, Steveling
sqrtofneg1 (0): Xatalos
MysteryMeat1 (1): marvellosity, Xatalos, Blazinghand
jampidampi (1): sqrtofneg1
Yell0w (2): Hapahauli, matamburini
austinmcc (14): Holyflare, kushm4sta, marvellosity, Blazinghand, Cephiro, geript, ritoky, layabout, Yell0w, kitaman27, BlueyD, OnceKing, Erandorr, Cavalinho
Alakaslam (1): Steveling

Not voting (4): MysterMeat1, Valenius, thrawn2112, austinmcc



Currently austinmcc is set to be lynched with 14 votes! Deadline is in .

Remember: Voting is mandatory and has to be done in the Voting Thread.

Please contact the mods if the vote count is incorrect. Thank you!
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
May 25 2014 17:13 GMT
#4088
On May 26 2014 02:04 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2014 02:02 kitaman27 wrote:
On May 26 2014 01:21 austinmcc wrote:
Also, as far as winning goes, I need the other faction dead. I need endgame. And I need to have 3-5 people recruited. Any less and our fire isn't strong enough. Any more and our fire is burning too hot. So I don't need to add people every night, but I gots to be allowed to get at least one more recruit in, then can go scumhunting with the recruit OR just scumhunt with text.


You need to reach endgame right? So you would do anything to live I would assume?

Claim your recruit. Thanks
No thanks. I need to reach endgame, or at least get 3-5 people to endgame so I need to reach...after now.

But I can't win so long as another faction is around. If they have to eliminate MY faction, I don't want to give them a happy list and let them tick off a victory condition.


Even despite your spade taunting, I tried to help you!

At least I owe you a thanks for not trying to get even for Dr Who
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
May 25 2014 17:15 GMT
#4089
On May 26 2014 02:05 Xatalos wrote:
austin: Can you only convert yourself or can any of your converts recruit too?
Maaaan. I'd love to be coy about this and keep other factions guessing, but just me. You'll know, because there won't ever be fire KP again.

ALSO BY THE WAY, THERE WON'T BE FIRE KP EVER AGAIN IF I DIE.

BOY, YOU SAY. THAT SURE DOESN'T SOUND LIKE A MAFIA FACTION. MAFIA FACTIONS NORMALLY GET, LIKE, KP AND STUFF, RIGHT? WHY YES, YES THEY DO. THEY GET KP AND THEY USE IT TO KILL PEOPLE. IT SURE WOULDN'T MAKE SENSE IF A MAFIA FACTION HAD NO FACTIONAL KP, OR IF ONE GUY HAS THEIR KP AND HE DIES AND THEN THERE IS NONE.

THAT DOESN'T APPEAR SENSIBLE AT ALL.



Not answering the faction that I need to die. Again, language is kinda important. There's no red/guilty check on me, there's a not-town check. I don't have to kill them off, because I don't have targeted KP. I need them to GET killed. See: me scumhunting, because I need to get rid of some faction but I can't do it through NKs.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
May 25 2014 17:16 GMT
#4090
On May 26 2014 02:13 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2014 02:04 austinmcc wrote:
On May 26 2014 02:02 kitaman27 wrote:
On May 26 2014 01:21 austinmcc wrote:
Also, as far as winning goes, I need the other faction dead. I need endgame. And I need to have 3-5 people recruited. Any less and our fire isn't strong enough. Any more and our fire is burning too hot. So I don't need to add people every night, but I gots to be allowed to get at least one more recruit in, then can go scumhunting with the recruit OR just scumhunt with text.


You need to reach endgame right? So you would do anything to live I would assume?

Claim your recruit. Thanks
No thanks. I need to reach endgame, or at least get 3-5 people to endgame so I need to reach...after now.

But I can't win so long as another faction is around. If they have to eliminate MY faction, I don't want to give them a happy list and let them tick off a victory condition.


Even despite your spade taunting, I tried to help you!

At least I owe you a thanks for not trying to get even for Dr Who
I thought about it.

Seriously though. You think I'm fakeclaiming? If not, why am I giving out real info and why the heck is my role set this way if I'm mafia?
Fe fi fo fum.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
May 25 2014 17:18 GMT
#4091
On May 26 2014 02:16 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2014 02:13 kitaman27 wrote:
On May 26 2014 02:04 austinmcc wrote:
On May 26 2014 02:02 kitaman27 wrote:
On May 26 2014 01:21 austinmcc wrote:
Also, as far as winning goes, I need the other faction dead. I need endgame. And I need to have 3-5 people recruited. Any less and our fire isn't strong enough. Any more and our fire is burning too hot. So I don't need to add people every night, but I gots to be allowed to get at least one more recruit in, then can go scumhunting with the recruit OR just scumhunt with text.


You need to reach endgame right? So you would do anything to live I would assume?

Claim your recruit. Thanks
No thanks. I need to reach endgame, or at least get 3-5 people to endgame so I need to reach...after now.

But I can't win so long as another faction is around. If they have to eliminate MY faction, I don't want to give them a happy list and let them tick off a victory condition.


Even despite your spade taunting, I tried to help you!

At least I owe you a thanks for not trying to get even for Dr Who
I thought about it.

Seriously though. You think I'm fakeclaiming? If not, why am I giving out real info and why the heck is my role set this way if I'm mafia?


I'm guessing you're not telling the whole truth, but some of it may be plausible. Would lynch you either way though. Sorry, detective checks are so cruel
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
May 25 2014 17:20 GMT
#4092
Is BlueyD still scummy?

Also, tell me why Foolishness is mafia, and maybe look at jampidampi?
Fe fi fo fum.
jampidampi
Profile Joined December 2011
Finland386 Posts
May 25 2014 17:26 GMT
#4093
There seesm to be some confusion as to why I thought MZ was scummy and why I didn't later, so let's just clear that. + Show Spoiler +
Based on how he was interested in my question to bunnies:
On May 21 2014 06:29 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 06:27 jampidampi wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:21 27ninjabunnies wrote:

--

It's also obvious who are going to jump out in the front and try and lead town one way or another. We definitely have a mafia or two in the first couple of pages.

You sound confident, enough that I think you have your eye on someone already. Care to share as to who it may be?

Dis is some gud shit right here.

Ninja bro I'd like to hear about this as well.
I made an assumption that he was following our conversation with interest. My orginal question was aimed to confirm my suspicions of bunnies. But MZ response ignored the post that was most controversial in her filter:
On May 21 2014 07:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 07:08 jampidampi wrote:
Meapak earlier you were interested in 27ninjabunnies, did you gather anything from my conversation with her? If you had to bet on her alignment, what would you guess?

ehhhh
I understand the part about gut reads, I've had them myself and I know how frustrating it is to try and explain them. I give her (is ninja a her?) a pass for now because her posts seem very unguarded and often early game is when scum are most uptight.
To me it seemed that he hadn't thought about her alignment, even though I specifially asked him to do so. It just seemed unnatural to ignore that post when thinking about her alignment. So I started thinking about different ways of interpreting that post. Having a plausible town explanation, I asked bunnies about it, but she firmly denied it. So I ask MZ if he had another townie explanation for that post, but he basicly agreed with me:
On May 21 2014 07:44 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 07:40 jampidampi wrote:
On May 21 2014 07:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 21 2014 07:08 jampidampi wrote:
Meapak earlier you were interested in 27ninjabunnies, did you gather anything from my conversation with her? If you had to bet on her alignment, what would you guess?

ehhhh
I understand the part about gut reads, I've had them myself and I know how frustrating it is to try and explain them. I give her (is ninja a her?) a pass for now because her posts seem very unguarded and often early game is when scum are most uptight.

Unguarded? To me it seems that she is very defensive here:

On May 21 2014 06:52 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:45 jampidampi wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:39 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:27 jampidampi wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:21 27ninjabunnies wrote:

--

It's also obvious who are going to jump out in the front and try and lead town one way or another. We definitely have a mafia or two in the first couple of pages.

You sound confident, enough that I think you have your eye on someone already. Care to share as to who it may be?


I may have my eye on a few people.

From my experience, there are two type of mafia people: the lurkers, and the ones who like to come out first day and take control of town.

I'm focusing on the latter because they are the ones to likely talk more, you can easily find their slips (if any), and they are also more likely to last longer than the lurker mafia.

Why are you avoiding my question? I asked you to name your suspicions, but instead you give an indefinite answear and then babble on about something that could reasonably be figured out from your earlier post.


If I'm avoiding your question, it's because I have a pretty good damn reason as to why.
But because you are being persistant, the ones I have my eye on are Steveling, WaveofShadow and Tehpoofter.

But this doesn't necessarily mean they are scum. I rather read more of their play and interactions before I straight out call someone mafia. The majority of these people I haven't played with, and this is my second forum game.

If I don't have logic behind my reads, where does that put me? As a freaking town more likely to get mislynched.

So hold your horses, let me get my reads, and then we'll talk.

She has "a pretty damn good reason" to avoid my question, yet she anwears it. Earlier she said that "we definitely have a mafia or two" but now they are not necessarily scum. Brining out the newbie card, defending accusations that don't exist. I would definitely not call this post unguarded. Based on this I wouldn't clear bunnies so easily, but now you're interesting. What makes you think she was "unguarded" in this post?

+ Show Spoiler +
For the annoyed thing, if she was slightly pissed at me, I would understand this kind of backlash.

I agree that she made a terrible post there, my "unguarded" comment did not specifically relate to any one post in particular and more to her style of posting over all. My personal concern with her is actually her sudden clearing of me after I lightly defended her. It's waaaay too early in the game to say you won't lynch someone, even if you qualify it with D1.
If he thought the post was terrible, why didn't he address it at all when I asked him about bunnies? So I give him a light scumread for it and go to sleep. He leaves his response in the thread:
On May 21 2014 08:00 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 07:56 jampidampi wrote:
On May 21 2014 07:44 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 21 2014 07:40 jampidampi wrote:
On May 21 2014 07:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 21 2014 07:08 jampidampi wrote:
Meapak earlier you were interested in 27ninjabunnies, did you gather anything from my conversation with her? If you had to bet on her alignment, what would you guess?

ehhhh
I understand the part about gut reads, I've had them myself and I know how frustrating it is to try and explain them. I give her (is ninja a her?) a pass for now because her posts seem very unguarded and often early game is when scum are most uptight.

Unguarded? To me it seems that she is very defensive here:

On May 21 2014 06:52 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:45 jampidampi wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:39 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:27 jampidampi wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:21 27ninjabunnies wrote:

--

It's also obvious who are going to jump out in the front and try and lead town one way or another. We definitely have a mafia or two in the first couple of pages.

You sound confident, enough that I think you have your eye on someone already. Care to share as to who it may be?


I may have my eye on a few people.

From my experience, there are two type of mafia people: the lurkers, and the ones who like to come out first day and take control of town.

I'm focusing on the latter because they are the ones to likely talk more, you can easily find their slips (if any), and they are also more likely to last longer than the lurker mafia.

Why are you avoiding my question? I asked you to name your suspicions, but instead you give an indefinite answear and then babble on about something that could reasonably be figured out from your earlier post.


If I'm avoiding your question, it's because I have a pretty good damn reason as to why.
But because you are being persistant, the ones I have my eye on are Steveling, WaveofShadow and Tehpoofter.

But this doesn't necessarily mean they are scum. I rather read more of their play and interactions before I straight out call someone mafia. The majority of these people I haven't played with, and this is my second forum game.

If I don't have logic behind my reads, where does that put me? As a freaking town more likely to get mislynched.

So hold your horses, let me get my reads, and then we'll talk.

She has "a pretty damn good reason" to avoid my question, yet she anwears it. Earlier she said that "we definitely have a mafia or two" but now they are not necessarily scum. Brining out the newbie card, defending accusations that don't exist. I would definitely not call this post unguarded. Based on this I wouldn't clear bunnies so easily, but now you're interesting. What makes you think she was "unguarded" in this post?

+ Show Spoiler +
For the annoyed thing, if she was slightly pissed at me, I would understand this kind of backlash.

I agree that she made a terrible post there, my "unguarded" comment did not specifically relate to any one post in particular and more to her style of posting over all. My personal concern with her is actually her sudden clearing of me after I lightly defended her. It's waaaay too early in the game to say you won't lynch someone, even if you qualify it with D1.

It still kinda baffles me that you could ignore such a heavy contrast to your generalization about bunnies play. Makes me think that you didn't actually put that much thought into it, which makes me think you might be scum.

It's soon 2 AM here, so see you all tomorrow

I mean if you want I can go through her filter and point out every place I thought she made an unguarded or off the cuff post. I don't think I'm ignoring the contrast, I'm just not condemning someone for one bad post (although I understand that's all you need sometimes). On the other hand, I do have serious reservations because of her buddying.

Look she's probably not gonna be my D1 lynch choice right now, I'm trying to make myself as clear as possible. Have a goodnight, I'll be more than happy to answer further questions when you wake up.
When I read the thread I started reconsidering my read on him. I pondered the other aspects of his play. The way MZ went after Kita resounded heavily with how I play. His responses in our conversation had a "I don't care how you see things, this is how I see them" feel to them, especially in the last one. His thoughts were consistent and read evolved in a natural way. The final thing to swing me over was that everyone seemed to be ignoring what I had said if was not directed at them specifially, so him ignoring my interaction with bunnies didn't seem as abnormal. I mean even Cephiro, who tunneled bunnies hardcore, ignored my posts.



I don't think there's a reason to let austin live, since based on what he has told us his powers aren't helpful to us. Unless ofcourse he can tell how protown the abilities of his Djinnis are and how he'll ensure that they are used to the benefit of town.

##Vote: austinmcc
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
May 25 2014 17:27 GMT
#4094
Care to comment on anything else?
Fe fi fo fum.
jampidampi
Profile Joined December 2011
Finland386 Posts
May 25 2014 17:28 GMT
#4095
On May 26 2014 02:27 austinmcc wrote:
Care to comment on anything else?

Have anything specific in mind?
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
May 25 2014 17:29 GMT
#4096
Ye Olde Game.

Mtam, the guy you wanted to lynch yesterday.

etc.etc.etc.etc.etc.etc.
Fe fi fo fum.
BlueyD
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada437 Posts
May 25 2014 17:30 GMT
#4097
Are there even scum factions in this game? I see 3 elemental KPs and one 3P death from the other element. That's 4 factions. And now Austin claims to be 3P as well from one of the elements.

What if they're all 3P? Could that even happen?
Zealot Chaaaaarge!
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
May 25 2014 17:32 GMT
#4098
I can't believe this is happening.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
jampidampi
Profile Joined December 2011
Finland386 Posts
May 25 2014 17:33 GMT
#4099
On May 26 2014 02:29 austinmcc wrote:
Ye Olde Game.

Mtam, the guy you wanted to lynch yesterday.

etc.etc.etc.etc.etc.etc.

Not much to say about mtam, he has only posted once since I last addressed him and the post is not that good. Still a good lynch, but not better than a claimed nontown.

Don't understand what you are referring to in the first part, could you say it somehow differently?
Valenius
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1266 Posts
May 25 2014 17:34 GMT
#4100
On May 26 2014 02:30 BlueyD wrote:
Are there even scum factions in this game? I see 3 elemental KPs and one 3P death from the other element. That's 4 factions. And now Austin claims to be 3P as well from one of the elements.

What if they're all 3P? Could that even happen?


"4 djinni factions fighting each other, town get caught in the crossfire" ?
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