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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 25 2014 16:41 GMT
#4061
so yeh, steveling/valenius or kush is converted by austin most likely
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 25 2014 16:43 GMT
#4062
basing it off of this post:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/440546-golden-sun-the-lost-age-mafia-djinn-edition?page=153#3052
Valenius
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1266 Posts
May 25 2014 16:48 GMT
#4063
Whether you choose to believe it or not; I have not been converted.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 25 2014 16:48 GMT
#4064
kush, did you get converted?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
May 25 2014 16:49 GMT
#4065
Anyway. To my dearest voters, I offer you a scowl.

austinmcc (8): Holyflare, kushm4sta, That Elderly Heterosexual Peruvian, Blazinghand, Cephiro, geript, ritoky, layabout, Yell0w

And then kita, bluey, onceking, erandorr

HF town.

Kush is being an idiot and I don't want to be wrong about him and if he's actually town then maybe I'm right about Foolishness too. So it's a bit biased, but i THINK town.

peruvian basically non-responded to HF's claim and all this stuff. Not good. peruvian can be lazy all he wants but SHIT THAT IS INTERESTING IS HAPPENING. I can understand him being lazy, although it also sorta smells like not wanting to make a target of himself early when lots of KP is in play, but.........he should be getting interested in stuff. Reads kinda ... too safe? Drop out, see what happens with the claim and the responses and whatnot.

BH is likely town but also a liar
On May 25 2014 17:10 Blazinghand wrote:
holyflare claimed a guilty result on austinmcc
Survey says..............this is false.

Ceph comes out of the woodwork after like a 4 day absence. Says he's trying to skim, gives no thoughts, votes me. Wish nobody had said anything so that we could see what he did later. Here's the thing, I think cephiro is TOWN, or less likely, a ONE-PERSON FACTION. Everyone and their mother is returning to thread to vote me. Ceph returns to thread and ASKS TO BE READ INTO WHAT'S GOING ON. That means it's UNLIKELY he has a QT, because every scum QT says "Oi gents, care for a spot of tea? We're in tip top shape on the nonce, for we can all take the piss out of the thread wot wot and vote austinmcc, saying he's a right cad." ***HEY DON'T FORGET THIS IF I DIE GO LOOK AT IT AND LOOK AT IT AGAIN BECAUSE IT MAKES SENSE. WHY DOES MAFIA ASK FOR A TARGET NOW, MAFIA IS SMILING FROM EAR TO EAR RIGHT NOW AND WILL BE OVER-QUICK TO VOTE ME***

geript shouldn't be voting me. If nothing else, he should be trying to save me and secretly hoping I'll recruit him into the ABBA goodness. I DO like that he immediately thought of that, why wasn't he recruited, but it's not an alignment-indicative thing. Don't like the entirely unexplained vote though, but again, similar to cephiro, mafia is smiling their asses off, and i think will....be too quick to explain a little, to say why they're voting, and wont' just drop a ninja vote.

ritoky i liked the posts of and i'm getting lazy because there are too many voters on me to do what I wanted to do and really look for scum votes/town votes. Because he's townie imo, I'll just call his vote a town vote.

layabout ignores the check for a while, and instead is focused on other people, and also talks with xatalos a tiny bit about what's going on. I like that. Townvotepile.

On May 25 2014 21:41 Yell0w wrote:
Yup, so I'm just going to agree we have to lynch him because he can recruit people in his faction.

##vote: austinmcc
Asks no question. Interacts none. Poof I'm here, I'll say something about austinmcc, go away again. i THINK yellow is town, but his VOTE is scummy. This is sorta what I'm looking for in terms of scummy votes, right? People who appear out of nowhere, have NO thoughts on the thread but that I need lynching, and then poof. Of minor note is his concern that I RECRUIT. He doesn't say I'm lolmafia, or that I have to die because I have a redcheck or anything, he's concerned about something that probably should be concerning. That's a minor +

watch kita closely. He knows I'm not an idiot. But he claims both that "leaving a claimed recruiter alive is a no-no" AND that I'm fakeclaiming recruiter. If I were trying to fakeclaim, I wouldn't fakeclaim something that, in Kita's mind, gets you KILLED FOREVER ALWAYS. He essentially thinks I'm claiming something super dangerous, when every friggin scum that gets caught and claims 3P always goes for survivor or something innocent. They don't say they MIGHT be taking your wives and children (or husbands), and they don't say they, ummmm, rando KP sometimes. Mafia don't fakeclaim things that town still want to lynch ---> it's not a fakeclaim. Kita not thinking it through enough. (Filter also kinda worryingly tiny)

Bluey's vote is lazy. I believe HF's claim ---> lynch austinmcc. Says NOTHING about whether he believes me. Says nothing about why I should be the lynch. Again, this ain't a red check. It's a not-town check. Cuz I'm not-town, but also BLUE. THE FIRE IS BLUE. BLUEY I AM YOUR COLOR. THIS SHOULD MATTER TO YOU? UNVOTE ME!

OnceKing is, I THINK, the only person who voted me and kept talking about other people. Muy bueno. Discussion shouldn't stop just because of the check, and he's the only person I saw that was down to vote me BUT STILL TRY AND DO OTHER STUFF. Huzzah.

I don't love Erandorr's vote. His is one of the more...wishy washyish? Why would scumaustin give that info --> look at how scum votes are flocking to austin (with no specifics) ---> we still need to kill austin ---> it would be funny to leave him alive. I AGREE that scum votes are gonna pop up on me. But it's a good idea to find em rather than just mentioning it. Everyone in this game can look at the votes on me right now, be super sure there's SOME scum there, and see what votes look wonky.
Fe fi fo fum.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 25 2014 16:49 GMT
#4066
Oh, it's probably not kush. kush was happy to lynch austin.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
May 25 2014 16:51 GMT
#4067
On May 26 2014 01:30 Holyflare wrote:
how many ppl did your faction start with? 1?
Let's just say that D1 there was a QT full of all caps rantings and someone talking to himself. (just 1)
Fe fi fo fum.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 25 2014 16:54 GMT
#4068
Foolishness could be a convert. He's been kind of doing less stuff today compared to D1. And he was also very towny D1 IMO so not a bad target.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
May 25 2014 16:56 GMT
#4069
Yes yes. I converted a dude and then was finding him scummy and spent pages trying to get other people suspicious of him.

Would also suggest that SOMEONE look into who has played with me in recent games where I was mafia. I have been...not a good mafia lately, had the turbolurk setting to maximum. SOMEONE should have brought this up, imo, and it should be a slight negative against anyone in those games. If they're voting me AND know that I've been cray cray lurky as scum recently, they probably should have expressed some minor misgivings.
Fe fi fo fum.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 25 2014 16:56 GMT
#4070
But no... austin wouldn't suspect Foolishness then. Forget that.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Valenius
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1266 Posts
May 25 2014 16:57 GMT
#4071
My two trains of thought following the updated info:

1) Lynch him; The recruitment of town and random kp is too risky.

2) Leave him, for now; The recruitment of town would prove they -were- town, and Xat can convert them back afterwards, if he's in a suitable position to do so. The attempted recruitment of scum would allow him to out them to us. This would obv require teamwork between us and him.
Valenius
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1266 Posts
May 25 2014 16:58 GMT
#4072
Oh, and 2) - Believe in RNGesus on the random kp
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 25 2014 16:58 GMT
#4073
Hmmm.... Yeah... Actually we could use austin as some sort of a Cop? In a way I guess.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 25 2014 16:59 GMT
#4074
The random KP is a bit scary though haha
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
May 25 2014 17:01 GMT
#4075
(Which is one reason that people wouldn't fakeclaim it)
Fe fi fo fum.
Valenius
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1266 Posts
May 25 2014 17:01 GMT
#4076
That's what I've been thinking since he claimed it. If scum decide the risk of him being alive and getting a failed recruitment is worth a kp, excellent; 1 less kp on a potential townie, and we don't lose anything else.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
May 25 2014 17:02 GMT
#4077
On May 26 2014 01:21 austinmcc wrote:
Also, as far as winning goes, I need the other faction dead. I need endgame. And I need to have 3-5 people recruited. Any less and our fire isn't strong enough. Any more and our fire is burning too hot. So I don't need to add people every night, but I gots to be allowed to get at least one more recruit in, then can go scumhunting with the recruit OR just scumhunt with text.


You need to reach endgame right? So you would do anything to live I would assume?

Claim your recruit. Thanks
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
BlueyD
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada437 Posts
May 25 2014 17:02 GMT
#4078
Can the random kp land on scum?
Zealot Chaaaaarge!
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
May 25 2014 17:04 GMT
#4079
On May 26 2014 02:02 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2014 01:21 austinmcc wrote:
Also, as far as winning goes, I need the other faction dead. I need endgame. And I need to have 3-5 people recruited. Any less and our fire isn't strong enough. Any more and our fire is burning too hot. So I don't need to add people every night, but I gots to be allowed to get at least one more recruit in, then can go scumhunting with the recruit OR just scumhunt with text.


You need to reach endgame right? So you would do anything to live I would assume?

Claim your recruit. Thanks
No thanks. I need to reach endgame, or at least get 3-5 people to endgame so I need to reach...after now.

But I can't win so long as another faction is around. If they have to eliminate MY faction, I don't want to give them a happy list and let them tick off a victory condition.
Fe fi fo fum.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 25 2014 17:04 GMT
#4080
This is kind of a fun end of day discussion.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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