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On December 27 2013 19:51 Adam4167 wrote:
Frankly, I don't see anything in your filter that gives me the slightest clue to your alignment.
1) Which in itself is probably a tell.
2) Do something useful instead of professing your towniness repeatedly.
1) a tell? What kinda tell? Good or bad?
2) Useful stuff. Hmm.
I think that you shouldn't go for Hopelessderr. If the mission fails we don't have any guarantee that he will explain himself properly in the future. The guy can do major lurking, even in Hogwarts he only had 10 pages and I think he survived till end. So even if he isn't the scummer on the team, the scummers will have an easy time to make Hopeless look bad and then Hopeless will not get choosen on day 4/day 5 and a scummer will.
Now, I don't want to limit this idea to Hopeless alone. I think day 1 should consist of the people that are respected townies in general and have a good level of activity . VE/rayn come to mind. Because if the first mission works out we can trust these respected townies and especially with rayn, if we know he is town, he is way better in the game. Because sometimes he tends to piss people off and if town knows he is town he pisses people less off.
So I suggest rayn as a certain pick on first mission. Reasons:
1) Most active player
2) Works better for town when he is "confirmed town"
3) He will be scumleader if he is scum. We better know fast when he could be a tainted forest.
4) He understand why we can't take his word for granted if first mission fails. = less tension.
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Now that I made 100% sense that rayn should be picked on first mission.
Pick Koshi as well.
Reasons:
1) Koshi is town. I know this for sure.
2) rayn/koshi will spam each other till they know who is the scummer. It is won't be pretty but pretty sure we can work it out.
3) Even if you doubt that I am town, every game eventually people say I am town. The longer a game goes on, the more people are certain I am town. This has happened in the last 12 games, not once was there an exception. Because I am town again this game, the same will happen. Now imagine the epicness of taking Koshi on every mission and that fucker keeps looking more town the longer this game goes on? Jeez. So awesome.
Pick Koshi!!!
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Extra clarification on reason (2) for why you should Pick Koshi:
In the very sad world in which the mission failed and both rayn/Koshi were picked, I am sure that with the activity that both rayn and me have, and the history, rayn will figure out that I am town for sure and will be forced to look at the third guy. I would say that I would be a good bet to figure rayn out but sadly lately I have been wrong. But still. I will be critical of rayn and help everybody to figure him out, and probably tunnel him anyway in the case that first mission fails.
But let's hope it doesn't fail!
You are all giving rayn townread for almost free anyway so yeah. Will work out.
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I could go for Rayn - (Koshi/Cora) (not sure who I like better yet) - Adam
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Adam/Hopeless/Rayn sounds pretty good.
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Really Grack? You got 100% townread on Hopeless?
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Grack, could you explain to me why you would send Hopeless? I just wrote something on why we shouldn't take Hopeless.
Why is Hopeless a better pick than yourself? Isn't it the same principle?
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Anyway, I am against Adam being on the first mission. I might think Hopeless is town and that both Grack and Adam are already doing stuff that put Hopeless in the shinelights while Adam is in the shadows.
Might be wrong. But it has been decided in my head.
VE/rayn/Koshi
^ I like this.
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On December 27 2013 19:32 Adam4167 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2013 15:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Adam if you needed to decide the team now who'd you pick? If I had to send a team right this second - i'd be sending myself, hopeless and probably yourself. The way hopeless approached the 'leaders voting putting themselves on teams' showed more conviction and confidence than his entire filter in LXIII. While I might not agree with what he was saying, he explained himself well. You seem pretty invested in the game so far, not afraid to attack people and make waves. Your thoughts on what has been discussed up until now seem to mirror my own so that bodes well for you being town. VE, do you intend on doing something other than one-liners this game?
I'll do whatever I want. If you don't like, don't include me. <3
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In all seriousness though, I'm reading the thread, watching what happens and thinking about the game. There isn't a whole lot I need to do, as this is more a game of town-finding than scum-hunting...and there are people actively playing the game to choose from. And being that I'm the second leader (I think?) I'll be FORCED to do things soon enough.
So keep ur panties on Adam. <3
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Why the sudden doubt about being the second leader?
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Koshi could you elaborate more on the Hopeless/Grack/Adam thing? You seem to be thinking Adam and Grack are scum correct and they are trying to frame(?) Hopeless?
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On December 27 2013 23:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi could you elaborate more on the Hopeless/Grack/Adam thing? You seem to be thinking Adam and Grack are scum correct and they are trying to frame(?) Hopeless?
Yup. This is of course only a little thingie. But enough so that at this point I prefer somebody else over Adam.
I already explained why I wouldn't take hopeless just yet. I think that sounds reasonable. So why does Grack come in here 5 posts later and without explanation vote for Hopeless? Clearly Grack is trying to put discussion on that Hopeless pick in his list --> Hopeless in the light, Adam/rayn in the shadow.
Also, I just don't really like the Hopeless pick for the first mission. So Hopeless posted something thoughtful and therefore he deserves to go on the first mission? Meh. imo not the best reason.
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Grack why'd you be okay with me/Adam/Hopeless?
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Adams reason was that his meta read on me is that I was distinctly not "thoughtful" in my last scum game and I am likely town here.
I don't like the way you've reasoned to have me sit out. When talking about me, the assumption and followup thoughts are about a sabotaged mission. With rayn, you focus on a successful mission, and use the 'what if we fail' scenario to show how you can make yourself super duper townie by catching rayn.
I didn't even get a glimmer of hope. That's a pretty hard-ass stance to take against me considering how little your reasoning takes into account my play this game. Why do you assume I will neglect to explain myself? I don't need to be verbose, I need to be transparent. You don't seem to see any value in me as a player based on your reasoning. I dislike that very much, I didn't know how little you thought of me.
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On December 27 2013 23:39 Koshi wrote:
Why the sudden doubt about being the second leader?
Don't understand this statement...are you referring to the "I think"? I said I think because I said that without checking the veracity of the statement in the OP.
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On December 28 2013 00:06 Hopeless1der wrote:
Adams reason was that his meta read on me is that I was distinctly not "thoughtful" in my last scum game and I am likely town here.
I don't like the way you've reasoned to have me sit out. When talking about me, the assumption and followup thoughts are about a sabotaged mission. With rayn, you focus on a successful mission, and use the 'what if we fail' scenario to show how you can make yourself super duper townie by catching rayn.
I didn't even get a glimmer of hope. That's a pretty hard-ass stance to take against me considering how little your reasoning takes into account my play this game. Why do you assume I will neglect to explain myself? I don't need to be verbose, I need to be transparent. You don't seem to see any value in me as a player based on your reasoning. I dislike that very much, I didn't know how little you thought of me.
Well, true :/ I am sorry.
But. It's just more likely that somebody like rayn/VE leads town to victory than yourself. I only remember you from Hogwarts & Noir and it's not that you were so decisive in Hogwarts as town. I remember the first time you were "in the picture" in Hogwarts was when we had a redcheck in Hufflepuff and you gave townreads to all your Housemembers. Beside that I think that you were pretty grey in the first days. I might be wrong.
Therefore I say pick rayn/VE who are always pretty vocal and listened to. And then obviously myself because I am totes town.
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On December 28 2013 00:16 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2013 23:39 Koshi wrote:
Why the sudden doubt about being the second leader? Don't understand this statement...are you referring to the "I think"? I said I think because I said that without checking the veracity of the statement in the OP.
Here you are pretty certain that you were the second leader:
On December 27 2013 16:45 VisceraEyes wrote:
If everyone no vote first team I nominate myself Rayn and Cora for first mission EZPZ.
I wonder why you were certain you were second leader 8 hours ago and then your previous message you added "(I think)". Just strange. I also might be bored and looking to deeply into things.
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