PYP: League of Legends Mafia

On November 21 2013 13:47 Blazinghand wrote:
/in

Expect posts on weekdays between 02:00 GMT (+00:00) and 07:00 GMT (+00:00) and on weekends any time

On November 22 2013 09:39 WaveofShadow wrote:
I totally promise I won't grant people extra abilities if they buy me legendary Nasus.

On November 23 2013 00:29 kushm4sta wrote:
actually there probably will be no replacements beyond a certain point. and the people in this game look really active so I probably will never replace someone. This is even worse.

Because now what you have done is you volunteered to give up your spot but your decision is really causing me to give up my spot when I didn't even choose that. And somehow you get the accolades for being nice while I have to pay the price.

Replacement is just like any other slot in the game. And if someone signed up for that slot first, they get dibs. Replacement is not a secondary slot. Replacements have as much right to the slot that they signed up for as players do.

On November 23 2013 01:31 marvellosity wrote:
latter pls

On November 23 2013 09:22 Risen wrote:

Truth.

On November 25 2013 05:34 Kurumi wrote:
Something new for mafia players: expect me to drunk post! Hurray!

On November 27 2013 08:33 StorrZerg wrote:
just an fyi gonna be limited to phone most of the time till sunday
maybe sat night not to sure when i get back.

On November 29 2013 14:16 Blazinghand wrote:
;_; at least fwiw /out is infinitely better than /getinactivitymodkilled.

On November 30 2013 12:48 OdinOfPergo wrote:
I actually don't think we should ban champs like Talon.
Yes they might be nice for mafia early on in the game by denying early checks...
But really... if you're playing a scum agenda... you're going to get busted for it.
The same way a Godfather gets busted for it.

It's 100% the same principle.

On November 30 2013 16:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
VE do you agree Odin is town?

On November 30 2013 22:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Are you planning on dedicating this game to shitting on me? Because that's all you are doing atm.

On November 30 2013 21:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well i don't wanna play in a game where people say making bad posts is a town-tell for anyone and where people say i can't have a scumread on someone based on that they are incapable of posting 10 times / phase as scum.

I honestly don't give a fuck if you lynch me. I couldn't care less because lately TL town have been absolutely crap. Me + Risen should get top 2 spots and then we just shoot stupidity. That's the best plan.

On December 01 2013 01:59 supersoft wrote:


Do you disagree with him regarding Marv?

On December 01 2013 04:57 marvellosity wrote:
rayn, is it really worth spending 2 bans on alignment champions?

what are the other choices?

On December 01 2013 05:43 geript wrote:

I disagree. Because it's far easier for scum to coordinate the draft phase (town plays as selfish individual while scum plays as a team), then scum is far more likely to end up with 2-3 early drafters to grab those early picks.

On December 01 2013 11:52 supersoft wrote:


i've seen the ironic defense 1000 times.

On December 01 2013 16:42 Kenpachi wrote:

Or rather I like the idea of moderating the top couple of picks..

On December 02 2013 02:18 gtrsrs wrote:




is there any way we can cut these posts out? not really adding much to the game. makes me lose focus when trying to catch up. did i read the page where X lol'd at Y? did i read the page where Y lol'd back at X? it's a huge turnoff and i don't want to say it looks scummy but it makes me want to vote for people spamming this shit just so we don't have to read it all game

On December 02 2013 15:08 Roffles wrote:
I think gtrsrs just doesn't give a fuck anymore because he didn't get his champ of choice and is stuck as a vanilla townie.

To me it all makes sense cause I know he probably just picked a champ he likes playing in the actual game (Khazix) and seemed cool in terms of skills here (he announced he was doing this too), but wasn't able to grab him and now just starts screwing around cause he's got nothing better to do.

On December 02 2013 15:23 Mocsta wrote:

I'm sorry but since when does every townie have to be pro-town?

The fact is, I dont see how what he has pushed is

(1) Letting him blend in -- which scum usually want
or
(2) Pushing a scum agenda.

Fact is, im pretty pissed ima VT, so I can feel his pain and agree. Helps me think hes the same as me.
At least scum still have a QT and/or factional KP.

I got nothing.. I think his position is reasonable.

On December 02 2013 15:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:

In about half of your posts.

On December 02 2013 15:33 Oatsmaster wrote:

oh really. So before or after this?


I mean, who comes into a game going into each others face? Someone faking it. Scum.









All of this stuff is within the first 24 hours or so

On December 02 2013 15:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:

But there is no analysis. Not a single one. On before D1 i mean.
I can't understand how you can possibly have a town read on him based on N0.

On November 30 2013 18:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I know the pick order plan won't most likely succeed because there are always some idiots who won't agree to any plan. However that's my plan and i'll go with it, people agree or they don't, i don't care. As i said i am pretty good in finding townies and in last PYP game i would have assigned 6/6 townies in top of the picking order based on the first ~18h of the game.

I can read VE well too i think. town!VE is not wishy-washy. VE here is wishy-washy as hell. I asked him about his playername. He did not give an answer. He had no real opinions on anything, he "maybe thought" some people were town for some reasons. He's also not "happy" as he usually is. I would expect him to be more interested in the game than he is atm.

I am not confident in my reads on supersoft and Sndroba but that's where i stand atm.

On December 03 2013 01:25 kushm4sta wrote:
@ve it's more of a townie antitowniness. Town are more likely to act blatantly antitown than scum. Obviously there are exceptions for certain players.

On December 03 2013 01:29 geript wrote:
I don't think he's scum even though he think I may be.

On December 03 2013 01:35 Kurumi wrote:

Hey Viscera, you are back! Why do you think all these people thinking calling scum "bad town" is fine?
You are a silly goose <3

Kush, why didn't you vote me the moment you posted your great analysis?

On December 03 2013 02:33 geript wrote:
VE what you know about Mig? How much and how long/deep do his posts generally go?

On December 03 2013 04:46 geript wrote:
Ok I can understand that knda (need to filter him again to remember) but why not either the other 2? More importantly why not Oats? He has like a 100% chance of flipping scum AND the shitz 'n giggles afterwards will be the bombasaurus red.

On December 03 2013 05:42 marvellosity wrote:
Although I am pretty curious that you dislike me, given I've essentially been helping to push your lynch target, VE. That's kinda weird.

On December 03 2013 06:19 marvellosity wrote:
So, how inactive does jaybru have to be before you allow him into your reckoning, VE?

Because as far as I've gathered, all he's done is push me based on a lie and afk. Hmm?

On December 03 2013 06:19 Koshi wrote:

I shall make a post by post analysis and paint everything scummy.

On December 03 2013 06:25 JonnyLaw wrote:
gtrs - I dont like how his filter reads but he hasn't really given us much to lynch him either. I know he's capable of playing better as town so either he's busy, lazy or scum. None of these qualities help us win the game.

On December 03 2013 06:45 JonnyLaw wrote:



I agree VE. Does that make him scum and not just lazy town?

On December 03 2013 06:52 marvellosity wrote:
The case on gtrsrs is actually fairly weak until you introduce the meta aspect, when it strengthens markedly. Because otherwise yes, it is hard to distinguish between lazy town and mafia.

Seems weird you'd disregard that Jonny, especially as you are apparently familiar/have looked at kush's past games.

On December 03 2013 07:40 sandroba wrote:

Sure, but the way he acknowlodged it and responded to it without finding it bizarre himself is pretty weird too.

On December 02 2013 15:50 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:

mocsta if you have a problem with me just come out and say it. I fucking hate when people beat around the bush like this.

On December 03 2013 07:49 Koshi wrote:

I know it's not perfect. but the tldr of Kurmui filter is this.
+ Show Spoiler +

K. It's now out of my system.


I will probably just sheep somebody somewhere.

On December 03 2013 07:51 sandroba wrote:

Actually at the time this post was made I thought it was a pretty exagerated comment and unlike what I've seen of MZ. Then he gives pretty thorough responses like he has something to explain to mocsta at this point. And then they both drop it and vanish from the thread. I don't know, maybe I'm over reading this, but it doesnt feel quite right to me.

On December 03 2013 09:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
Rayn you seemed to disagree with me pretty heavily yesterday regarding gtsrs. Explain the shift to considering a vote.

On December 03 2013 09:46 justanothertownie wrote:
As far as I am concerned LSB can hang if he keeps avoiding scumhunting. Policy lynching Bum for stupid reasons won't save him and I still think it is a weird choice for the last person in the draft to pick Tryndamere as town.

On December 03 2013 09:54 Mocsta wrote:
- Regarding MZ was suspicious of MZ because I did not believe that someone could have such a strong read on a player with so little content at that point in time.

On December 03 2013 10:19 kushm4sta wrote:
k ill vote johnnylaw

On December 03 2013 10:37 marvellosity wrote:
That strange feeling when you bring up someone as a target and then get worried when people agree with you

On December 03 2013 10:41 Mocsta wrote:

Really?

I pretty much alluded to it immediately when MZ made the case.


As for you; you made a point i disagreed with in general - not specific to gtr.

/<No> Dunked

On December 03 2013 10:48 bumatlarge wrote:
Aye.



I never wanted tryndamere, and I didn't want another town to take it. Figured that would be the best way, and town would understand. Kinda awkward now that LSB has it, but it's not scummy for either of us I think, especially since he claimed it.

I'm glad you noticed, I initially had another block of text about the voters on Urgot, but I convinced myself it didn't hold water except for jcarl. Geript I was still suspicious of, but not for the reasons I was going to give. The other two, Mig and justanothertownie, I liked as town, so I axed the whole section and just picked up where the analysis began.

You are really smart BC.



PSA I know guitarasaurus pretty well, but I don't know how he plays mafia. I wouldn't witch hunt him yet for doing nothing, but he needs to step it up even if he didn't get what he wanted. There are better lynches.

HEAR THAT BRIAN?

I have yet to analyze geript, though my gut said mafia. I was going to but the jcarl analysis wore me out, and I scratched a whole long segment that I thought wasn't good.

@LSB

I'm not going to claim, sorry how you managed to go for trynd was unfortunate, but what I said would have worked if it got all the way to you. Meh, you claimed so thats actually good for everyone. I agree certain people should claim, and most have, but others should not.

Tell you what though, I will claim if jcarl claims. I thought I caught him pretty good, but the fact that multiple people have called my case good yet only 4 people voted for him, and that you tried to turn it on me, tells me jcarl is a good role for scum to have. Just a feeling.

It's been a while but LSB is playing similar to another PYP game, with plans that don't really fall through. He plays weird in general, but there is methods to his madness when he's town. I don't have a read yet, but I'd like to see what he does.

If you have a good role like DT/Medic/Vet, please don't claim.

On December 03 2013 10:55 bumatlarge wrote:
I was answering people. I've still got a few words I want to say

On December 03 2013 11:55 LSB wrote:

Never said anything about SK, just said not town. Good enough for me to try to drop da hammer. My night action is gonna be to move 3 up. Though unless some friendly helper would like to give me more KP, it's gonna be more like a feather than a hammer

On December 03 2013 22:26 marvellosity wrote:

bum, how do these two things together make sense?

You don't think LSB is mafia, but you think LSB "coincidentally" went for you as soon as you went for jcarl? Surely that SUPPORTS the idea that LSB is mafia?? (if you think jcarl is mafia) Why would Village Idiot or SuicideBonus dude (lol) gun for you when you went for jcarl, other than they'd be mafia together?

On December 03 2013 23:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I wonder what LSB does with his power if we lynch bum :p

On December 04 2013 06:31 sandroba wrote:

If Bum took trynn as scum, he wouldn't ever be able to justify using it. Trynn is actually terrible for scum. It's pretty obivious when you are moving 5 pos and hitting people randomly that you aren't town. And if you don't plan on doing that why take it in the first place? Better to take some concentrated kp to eliminate threats quickly.
But if he faked taking trynn and took something else it would give him town cred for never using the ability plus it would allow him to use whichever other role without suspicion. Too bad for him LSB didn't read the thread and randomly took trynn.

On December 04 2013 06:48 LSB wrote:

I voted and began my case against Bum before threatening to kill him with my night-actions should he not be lynched...

On December 03 2013 11:55 LSB wrote:

Never said anything about SK, just said not town. Good enough for me to try to drop da hammer. My night action is gonna be to move 3 up. Though unless some friendly helper would like to give me more KP, it's gonna be more like a feather than a hammer

On December 04 2013 10:23 austinmcc wrote:
VE, does MZ usually post a decent bit about you/your alignment?

On December 04 2013 10:26 marvellosity wrote:
bum and jay sitting in the thread going "yeah, i'm pretty scummy I guess" is really spectacularly unhelpful.

On December 04 2013 10:32 marvellosity wrote:

Given I'm not thinking about lynching Roffles today, then yes, much more unhelpful.

On December 04 2013 10:42 jaybrundage wrote:
Hmm the wagon isn't going as hard on me as i thought. Maybe i should of saved that for later : /

Hey VE I should get a Lol Smurf with BEST MISLYNCH NA

On December 04 2013 10:50 jaybrundage wrote:

VE you legit think I would have not a single person to post if I was on the scum team. Wouldn't I ask my scum buddies for help with someone i could stick a shitty FOS on. I'll try to look thru the player's names and see if anything i can remember that stuck up to me. With big games like this its more difficult tho : /

On December 04 2013 11:04 bumatlarge wrote:


Pretty much you can blame Risen. I was going to go with a strong vet role like garen or mordekaiser, and I thought I could probably lure at least one hit if I scumhunted hard. But when Risen said he was just going to pick his favorite champ instead of lux/vet, I didn't want to risk no one taking it. I'd rather be vanilla then not have Lux in the game.

On December 04 2013 11:39 austinmcc wrote:
VE the votes are curious but when I read him over I actually liked the people he was calling out as mafia. I don't like him for mafia unless a bunch of them flip town.

On December 04 2013 11:43 Mocsta wrote:
I would love to hear more about this stealth vote

On December 04 2013 11:49 austinmcc wrote:
Nono. He was on my list of people to look into as I was catching up. When I filtered him, his filter looks not great to me except that the people he's calling mafia are people I like other people to call mafia.

My agreement is ... important to me for today, but really it's that if they flip red, he's calling out mafioso on D1, unlikely to be mafia. If they flip town, whether I liked his reads or no, the only thing that I really liked in his filter were reads that turned out to be on townies. I can be wrong. Sometimes. Everyone can be wrong. But if they flip green/blue then all we had in common was that we would have made similar mislynches, and that feels....less good than both making similar scum lynches.

On December 04 2013 11:51 ticklishmusic wrote:


Wait what role are you claiming again?

On December 04 2013 11:53 Roffles wrote:

Ok I promise that was the last time.

The initial vote on Bum was initially for his D0 play and his willingness to propose an organized plan and having nothing to do with it afterwards. The first unvote was because I wanted to kill Jay as well because his play has reeked of scum, even after my initial reads on him. The revote onto Bum was cause his poem was too elegant for my liking. Why spend time to devise something like that when he has other pressing issues to tend to if he really wants to stay alive.

Anything after that was to piss you off.

On December 04 2013 11:54 Roffles wrote:

Entertainment for me.

On December 04 2013 11:58 Mocsta wrote:
Geript

My point was that he was throwing his vote away.

Granted consolidation isnt required at this point its still more trollish than I would expect.

I take it that you disagree?

On December 04 2013 12:03 Mocsta wrote:

Considering I have caught you before for doing stealth votes.

And we all know that you would unvote and vote the accuser I dont see what the problem is.

Why cant we ask Roffles to take accountability?

Even if he was town realising consolidation is not required; how do we know hes not going to do this again next cycle.
Premature cockblock from you, I thinks.

On December 04 2013 12:19 geript wrote:

Honestly I'm way more concerned with Coagulation than Roffles.

On December 04 2013 12:25 Oatsmaster wrote:
Coag doesnt even do shit in any game, VE how is that alignment indicative?

On December 04 2013 12:29 Oatsmaster wrote:

So what?

Jay is super concerned about his appearence.

On December 04 2013 12:32 Oatsmaster wrote:

yup

On December 04 2013 12:39 Oatsmaster wrote:
I literally do not remember.

But, jay knows that he is "best mislynch NA".

On December 04 2013 13:05 Coagulation wrote:
looks like town shit the bed

On December 04 2013 11:46 geript wrote:

You've never really accounted for Sandroba or Marv's points. You never really explained my points against you. You continue to push me as a scum read with no real reason for me to be scum when I'm the person who really started the counterwagon against your lynch. You never really came back and explained your reads on why the people who you suspect are scum. You're the person who faked going to Trynd but picked Lux and seem completely revolved around that while no one really suspects you for that.

You did come back with a chezinu-esque fucking poem with practically reads as a scumclaim. On top of that, you've completely fucking avoided talking about the counterwagon to your fucking lynch entirely. It's weird as shit and scummy. The fact that your defense is focused on bits of things that people don't really find you scummy for and not the big fucking elephants in the room is why people are so happy to jump on your wagon in part.