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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
December 06 2013 03:42 GMT
#3727
@Austin

Can you please confirm if you are full heatlh.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
December 06 2013 03:48 GMT
#3732
I must say, in isolation.
Rean shooting Austin wtih VT 50KP and immediately following up with a vote looks pretty good to me.

Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
December 06 2013 03:58 GMT
#3735
On December 06 2013 12:52 OdinOfPergo wrote:
@Mocsta, I'm not sure that sayd much considering Austin is Rean's sole read this game. (I don't remember anyone else..)
His reasons aren't strong, but what else could he have even claimed to do if he DIDN'T do as he claimed to do?

"Hey guys, Austin is my scum read..
I totally hit xyz with 50kp for no reason"

Doesn't make any sense.
Why are you giving him town credit for this action when it's the only avenue he left himself?

In isolation:
I dont see how that action (shot + vote) allows Rean to push a scum agenda.
Like i get some can argue he now has a cover story (of a read) that he can stick to and push via the vote; but by doing this, he is becoming a lone ranger in the scum team with no thread influence, and no ability to push an agenda if his team needs it.
Further, I'm not actually sure he would get town cred if Austin flipped scum.

Its just a really bad move overall.

If the shot didnt happen with a vote, different story.


Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
December 06 2013 04:02 GMT
#3738
[b]Jonny</b>

I look at you, and think you don't care about this game. Yes, you cared about the setup discussion and LoL-theme, but when it comes to the crux of what mafia is about, i find you to be lacking -- and that is pretty reliable scum tell.

I would really like to see you push something this lynch.

You made a post giving your position regarding myself, gtrss, LSB and ?Geript?
What are you going to do about these reads/

Sit there idle, or push them?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
December 06 2013 04:09 GMT
#3748
On December 06 2013 13:04 OdinOfPergo wrote:
Mocsta,

What gives you the impression he is going to push his vote at all?
Also, what per his day actions gives him any ability to help lead a scum agenda with his team if he is scum?
The only thing I get for it is a easy out later if Austin flips town. (Not convinced of at this point but need to finished filter... Dang I should probably completely ignore the thread and do that but meh. {This is townie Odin saying he don't give a rats if it takes him 10 hours to do huehue [But seriously I will have some reads out tonight pls no lynch until I do]}

Thats the point.

If he is Rean is scum bussing scum austin -- SURELY, he would be making a bigger HOO-HAA about it to lap up the town cred.

If Rean is scum faking a read on town austin -- I would have thought Austin is considered a threat and more KP would be on him. Its very disjointed to only have the 50KP, no? Clearly this is conjecture, but it makes sense to me.

If Rean is town, I can see this set of actions making sense.



Like, Im not saying Rean is town. Im just saying that this set of actions reads like a town play to me.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
December 06 2013 04:14 GMT
#3755
On December 06 2013 13:08 austinmcc wrote:
austinmcc's JonnyLaw thoughts:

+ Show Spoiler [Alert ! Bullshit] +
His D0 discussion fine. Specifically, voting amumu because yorick has plenty of votes is slightly townie. I don't personally think amumu was super strong (it's conditional, right? you have to get actioned to get anti-votes?), but still a fine role to want to ban out, and noticing that the guy you were on is 100% banned so you're trying to push another ban is townie.

Continues to use his ban. Amumu not gonna be a ban, looks for new options, is compaining about rayn's posting while still reading it and digesting it. That feels mildy townie.

On December 01 2013 13:28 JonnyLaw wrote:
Warwick's not a strong first pick. + Show Spoiler +
At night, you may submit the name and champion name of a player


This means we need to know which champion the player has successfully picked. Why pick trynd at all? Just so you know who has tryndamere? There's not a chance in hell I'm picking that champion. I plan to contribute to winning this game. Dealing damage to people above/below me does not help us win the game. I don't even understand.

Actually, I must say fuck your list. I disagree strongly with most of the conclusions. I think you're scum as is.
This also reads...I think townie? Sees bum's list. Is the FIRST to comment on bum's list. Has some specific reasons that show he's actually thinking --> warwick only strong with certain information, trynd doesn't help town win, etc. It's not the MOST townie minded thing, but I don't see Jonny being the FIRST response to bum's list and just blasting it. And it's not just one post, he continues the discussion. With decent reasoning.
On December 01 2013 15:10 JonnyLaw wrote:
Look at Ziggs/twitch/eve for guaranteed damage. Then there are defensive champs for scum who already know their teammates. Warwick and trynd are just garbage imo.

I like this post. Guaranteed damage good for scum. Defensive champs great because you know who you need to be protecting, can maybe stop called shots (might out yourself in doing so, etc., but it's a good thought I think). He is really fully articulating why he doesn't like bum's plan. I can see his thoughts. I think this is good.


Already, I think he's town. From what he's said and the way he's said it.


Comes back. Drops a few sorta reads. gtrsrs read is mush. Others are reads, if slightly vague on soniv.

Very focused on those 3 for a bit. Interacts with other people only about those three. But a decent amount of posting and reasoning on them.

Continues giving reads, or at least reading filters. Has clear rules that he's applying (soniv shrugging off accusations = town, whereas MZ super defensive).

Gives reads when asked, and then asks WHY those people. I like that.

LOLOLOLOL VOTES HIMSELF DUE TO FORMATTING. WHY IS EVERYONE SO MAD THIS GAME? SOMEONE ACCIDENTALLY SELF-VOTED AND SOMEONE CALLED EZ A GIRL. THIS IS A GOOD AND FUN GAME.

I don't love the vote. He's got suspects in kush certainly, and MZ slightly. But he's down to vote Bum. He responds to the question about people jumping on bum without hesitation. I don't ... I don't love his explanation there. Bum defended Jonny and then quit under pressure. Based on Jonny saying scumbum wasn't taking the easier lynch, i think he SHOULD find bum townie, or townieish.

Appears to have actually gone to look at Jaybrundage's past game in nomination. He doesn't need to do this. He's following up on things that are happening.


I don't love that he doesn't push HIS lynches. But I like how his reads come about, find him generally consistent, and very much like his D0 play. His vote is the only questionable thing. It's not enough to put him scum in my book.


Defense of soniv by saying gtrsrs's case is bad, doesn't mean soniv is town, but case is bad, reads funky at first glance. He was towny on soniv. Meh on gtr. I think he has legitimate points as to why he dislikes gtr's case, but he's not....I feel like he should be solidly on a soniv read here.



MY READ: HE IS TOWN

D0 LOOKS VERY TOWNIE. HAS REASONING BEHIND BANS, IS USING HIS VOTE FOR GOOD THINGS, IS DISCUSSING ACTUAL READS, ETC.

HIS READS LOOK GENUINE WHEN THEY COME FROM HIM. CONSISTENT RULES HE'S USING TO SEPARATE TOWN/SCUM.

HIS VOTE LOOKS MEH. DON'T LOVE. HIS RESPONSE TO GTRSRS CASE IS GOOD EXCEPT I THINK IT'S WONKY THAT HE'S NOT PUSHING SONIV TOWN STILL.
This spiel was enough to keep my vote rigth where it is.

Austin / JL scum team together.

His reasoning for Jl being town is based on his D0 appraoch which is all SETUP SPECULATION on LoL THEME... ITS HARDLY ALIGNMENT INDICATIVE !!!

AUSTIN ADMITS JL VOTES ARE "MEH" BUT IS WILLING TO BRUSH IT OFF.

THIS READS LIKE HIS EXACT APPROACH ON MZ.

LYNCH AUSTIN.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
December 06 2013 04:15 GMT
#3757
On December 06 2013 13:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like, remove what you think about me and my alignment from the equation and just tell me what you think about the numbers. We saw what ONE active KP last night MAYBE? MAYBE two? So scum have to use powers on active people if they want lurk the game away.

Most everyone talking just seems town to me and it sucks that we have so many people that aren't saying anything
As long as you arent talking about JL/Austin then yes to the fisrt part.

As for the second, completely. 24 hrs to lynch and 2/3 of the thread hasnt voted.

Scary times when lurkers rule the thread.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
December 06 2013 04:18 GMT
#3763
On December 06 2013 13:16 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm saying what do you think of the IDEA? It's not a bad one right? Like, tell me if you think lynching lurkers is a bad plan.
I'm not OK with lynched lurkers based on being lurkers.

For me its more OK, because out of the contributors I see them as pretty much town.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
December 06 2013 04:22 GMT
#3771
On December 06 2013 13:20 kushm4sta wrote:
ve is scum
mig is scum
austin is cum

those are the power players on the scumteam. probably have a couple afkers/semiafkers on there as well.

Did you misfire?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
December 06 2013 04:28 GMT
#3780
On December 06 2013 13:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm thankin marv was scum. Like I didn't wanna say it when he was in the game but he's not now and I think his slot is probably scum. Disqus.

I find that unlikely.

LIke me his interest in the game started slow, but once you start playing you get into it and lift the activity levels.
I find that to be pretty townie.

Im pretty sure in ?desert? he was scum, was bored at the start and kept that way.

I suppose the only two sticklers are:
(1) Scum didnt shoot him (at least Fuba hasnt mentioned any health dmg)
(2) Fuba AFK

Mind you with (2), Fuba is a lurker either alignment.

Im willing to roll with town to be honest. Definitely not worth considering over the next couple lynches for sure.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
December 06 2013 04:37 GMT
#3786
On December 06 2013 13:35 austinmcc wrote:
VE your vote on me is a bad vote and you should remove it.

If you are solely killing lurkers, kill a different lurker.
So you are comfortable with a policy lynch on lurkers; just not you, correct?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
December 06 2013 04:43 GMT
#3789
On December 06 2013 13:40 austinmcc wrote:
To mocsta and geript. I read Jonny and some case stuff.

Please read MZ
hmm, i suppose thats fair.

Will do it later tonight though. soz
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
December 06 2013 05:00 GMT
#3809
On December 06 2013 13:58 kushm4sta wrote:
@austin
your mz case is incredibly weak.
Part of it is you dont like his poking. This is very vague reasoning.
The majority of it has to do with BLUE HUNTING.
I don't think I've ever seen someone find mafia by identifying blue hunting.

Yeah. It's as if Austin is saying Mz is better than this , so he's scum.

Yet.. the same applies to Austin
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
December 06 2013 05:16 GMT
#3831
On December 06 2013 14:07 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2013 14:00 Mocsta wrote:
On December 06 2013 13:58 kushm4sta wrote:
@austin
your mz case is incredibly weak.
Part of it is you dont like his poking. This is very vague reasoning.
The majority of it has to do with BLUE HUNTING.
I don't think I've ever seen someone find mafia by identifying blue hunting.

Yeah. It's as if Austin is saying Mz is better than this , so he's scum.

Yet.. the same applies to Austin
What am I better than?

Other than activity, which I can't help right now, what parts of my posting this game have been crappy for austin (apart from the Rean meta thing, which was crappy). Any others?

Your jonny read.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
December 06 2013 05:20 GMT
#3839
On December 06 2013 14:18 geript wrote:
VE/Moc How do you feel about lynching Onegu?

Havent paid that much attention to him

Got my hands full

What's the concern?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
December 06 2013 05:35 GMT
#3859
I still wanna know who took my damn fiddlesticks
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
December 06 2013 05:49 GMT
#3869
Austin reads are funny.

Like everyone is town on town

Onegu/rean
Jonny/lsb


I promise I will read Mz tonight, but I'm not sold to be frank.
Esp with how u backpedal on rean.
The sequence of events recalls to me as
I debunked u on rean, so u went to read 2. Mz
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
December 06 2013 06:05 GMT
#3890
I wish Chez slot had more post history.

Chez, are you fiddlesticks?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
December 06 2013 06:07 GMT
#3893
On December 06 2013 14:54 austinmcc wrote:
And you can hate my reads, but I'm feeling okayish on them so far. I'm 2 for 2 on townies! Not exactly proof of my townieness! But still correct, whether you find any of my reads funny or no.

See I disagree.

Ok you're 2 town reads for 2 town reads. But finding town doesnt equate to finding scum -- it just narrows PoE.

This is a funny way to sell that your scum reads are viable.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
December 06 2013 06:14 GMT
#3898
On December 06 2013 15:06 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2013 15:05 Mocsta wrote:
I wish Chez slot had more post history.

Chez, are you fiddlesticks?

I'm a noob at this game. Let me check.

Lemme rephrase that

OoooOOOoooo

Rising Star of the nullest moon.
Are you the stick: that plays with its self?

Whilst on the chair, reading Mills and Boon
With the pages stuck together, when put back on the shelf !!

Is your champion:
Fiddlesticks

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