EPTTL Mafia LXIII: Time to Die
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I will carry u all | ||
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So here's what happens 1) you elect me mayor 2) I will lynch the guy via RNG as determined by this post (the one you're reading right now)'s post count modulo 31. Since so many people are posting at once on TL it's impossible for us to know what's going down. I've done this before. It works. For RNG, this post will be used for generating a random lynch. The # in the upper left corner can be right-clicked and used to access the absolute TL post # for this post. That number mod 9 is the random lynch. 1 =Oats, 2 = rayn, etc, all the way up to 8 = holyflare and 0 = sloosh. The reason we use the absolute TL post number is that posts are constantly being made, so the number is truly random. We turn it into a number 1-9 by taking that number mod 9. What is mod? effectively, it's the remainder after division. For example. 10 mod 9 = 1. 11 mod 9 = 2. 18 mod 9 = 0. 19 mod 9 = 1. and so on. Basically, this generates a random number 1 through 9. I am in favor of the random lynch (though am somewhat interested in a policy lynch today as well-- TL does not do this enough. I will start off by voting for the random lynched based on THIS POST. In this case, 1 = BC 2 = Mattchew 3 = Sharrant 4 = VE and so on all the way up to... 30 = BH 0 = Oatsmaster (since a multiple of 31 modulo 31 is 0, not 31). | ||
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make me the mayor and I will lynch vayneauthority | ||
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On November 16 2013 09:04 BloodyC0bbler wrote: you really should have read the thread before tossing out that campaign post. Just saying Given that my campaign is RNG, unless someone has somehow died between the day start and now, I don't see how it's necessary for me to have read the thread. If it turns out i come up with some amazing scumread i'll just change the platform | ||
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On November 16 2013 09:06 VayneAuthority wrote: i'll be confirmed town when im dead, and I give my unbiased reads based on day 1 before I die. If you're scum this is like a fairly manly play | ||
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On November 16 2013 12:21 VisceraEyes wrote: Even if BH HAD given you reason to vote him, by your own logic you couldn't because of reservations about Piperism (which, by the way, is laughable coming from you SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE of your BH fervor.) Just vote for me Alak, I promise I won't lynch you. Pinky swear. alak has told me in private (previous to this game start) that the fervor is fake and he does it for his own benefit in games (ie he is playing a role). | ||
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On November 16 2013 12:49 Risen wrote: He made an equally "horrible" opening post in WHC. I'm not phased, and wondering why you are. Risen is town | ||
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On November 16 2013 13:03 yamato77 wrote: Are you seriously telling me you think a lurker mason is more useful than a veteran townie? are you seriously trying to like backtrack how bad it is to just out a mason | ||
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what you meant to say was "yes" | ||
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1) ruined the MD Device 2) ruined petra 3) ruined command school 3 again) ruined ender randomly murdering people 4) ruined everything | ||
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people talk about rng; nobody has the manlitude to do it i do it | ||
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On November 17 2013 01:24 yamato77 wrote: Read his filter in Hogwarts. A BH who isn;t trying at all is a scum BH. He can be invovled, a la Thug Life, as town. There's no good excuse for how he's playing this game except that he's mafia. I've played trolly and non-trolly as both scum and town. It's certainly not helpful when I'm a lurking troll D1 as town but it happens all the time and it's always the same conversation when it does. Here's how it goes. Some guy: hey why is bh so quiet and unhelpful? he did this once as scum, therefore he is scum Me, or sometimes someone who knows me: yeah that's not really alignment indicative. BH definitely CAN be lurky and useless as scum but it happens when he is town as well; and him being active is not a towntell for him either. Basically the only towntell for BH is him catching scum Some guy: but I want to lynch BH based on a poor understanding of his meta!!!! wahhh so in any case let me know if you want to have that conversation, again, with real words, or if this will suffice for you. Lynching me today is a terrible idea. don't do it. | ||
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On November 17 2013 02:14 yamato77 wrote: You say that like you have confidence that BH is town and will actually come back and be useful. I have none. I have began numerous D1s like this as town, come back, and been very effective. There's always someone like you who wants to lynch me. Usually it's a lynch and not a mayor election so he just flips out and is very mad | ||
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On November 17 2013 03:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: Blazinghand you should probably claim so i can laugh a lot. With maybe some pre-game actions and pictures. Your wish is my command, it seems like if I don't yamato is just going to kill me so here's what i've been sitting on Oh shit is yamato actually going to lynch me ._. the people i have to put up with... Fine i'll solve this problem. I do don't lynch me I'm the Tracker Here's my crumb http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=434275¤tpage=61#1202 Sock head > sock is like soccer, which is known as football = football head Also the first word of the post is "hey" and you know who is referred to by "hey, football head!" that's right, it's Arnold from Hey Arnold. And you know who Arnold is? Yes that is right, I am the tracker, don't lynch me, you are all jubjubs for even thinking about doing it, especially you Yamato | ||
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that's right you better back down you better | ||
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On November 17 2013 04:17 Pandain wrote: That is not a breadcrumb are you dumb. The fact he even said it was a breadcrumb is so bad spoken like a man who has never seen my clains | ||
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On November 17 2013 04:19 Pandain wrote: What is this then. You thought it was a joke? the only joke in here is you're posting | ||
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On November 17 2013 04:20 Pandain wrote: Is it a real claim BH um yes duh this is how I normally crumb | ||
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On November 17 2013 04:23 Pandain wrote: What do you think about the fact your going to get roleblocked if I get RBed I'm still better off than getting lynched D1 by a pant-head http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=381440¤tpage=20#396 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=328827¤tpage=22#428 some classic BH crumbs for you | ||
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=371260¤tpage=58#1150 beggar man is from John le Carre's Tinker Tailor soldier Spy. As the rhyme goes, tinker tailor soldier sailor and so on and the "beggar man" is the code name for a guy who did not turn out to be the mole, hence was innocent, so i'm crumbing a green check you clearly don't even understand the level i crumb on | ||
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On November 17 2013 04:28 supersoft wrote: How the hell is some crumb alignment indicative? what am I doing here... I am talking to someone who crumbs tracker with panthead. wow. sock head, not pant head. the whole idea is sock head is not something anyone normally says, but reading it doesn't tell you who I am until I explain it (ie, sock head -> soccer head -> football head -> arnold from hey arnold is called a football head, the sentence starts with "hey" -> arnold = cops in tl mafia culture -> i'm the tracker) | ||
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On November 17 2013 06:01 Grackaroni wrote: Hey Blazinghands. Get in here and run for the mayor so that I can laugh at that funny pelican pooping on the thread. my platform is still the glorious rng lynch of vayne eveb vayne likes it | ||
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On November 18 2013 07:00 StorrZerg wrote: in short BH has only jumped on weak lynches, thown some town reads, changed his mind about myself with no real reason. this would be a great reason to call me scum if I did any of these things, but I definitely haven't been active enough to do any of that. I've made like 3 posts this game | ||
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also if anyone has any ideas about who I should track tonight let me know I agree with thrawn and VE re: grack's seriousness level. We should consider grack for a lynch tomorrow not because he is non-serious at times (link) but rather what he chooses to be non-serious about. As VE notes, (link) Grack spends a lot of time talking about kush and pushing for a kush mayorship (link) to the exclusion of discussing other things. After being called out on it, he moves to other topics, but ultimately his decision to engage people in a non-serious attitude lets him say things that he can just ignore/backtrack later (examples like support for my RNG lynch : (link) or voting yamato to push BC when yamato ends up wanting to lynch me, and not unvoting yamato despite that (link)). Ultimately what we see isn't just someone trolling, but someone strategically opting out of the discourse by taking up trolling positions, admitting they're trolling (link) (link), and leaving his vote (or his case) wherever it is convenient for him. The point he makes re: BC isn't inherently bad, but he implies that BC trying to look productive is actually scummier than Grack not trying to; and this is false. Grack can back away from any position he takes, and has, and ducks under the radar for it. This is what scum do. How much do you really know about Grack's positions? very little-- he seems to constantly change his mind about things, and never takes a serious stance. A good play for a scum player. | ||
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On November 18 2013 07:47 Blazinghand wrote: I am gonna slap down a couple of scumreads before I get rolling also if anyone has any ideas about who I should track tonight let me know I agree with thrawn and VE re: grack's seriousness level. We should consider grack for a lynch tomorrow not because he is non-serious at times (link)(link) but rather what he chooses to be non-serious about. As VE notes, (link) Grack spends a lot of time talking about kush and pushing for a kush mayorship (link) to the exclusion of discussing other things. After being called out on it, he moves to other topics, but ultimately his decision to engage people in a non-serious attitude lets him say things that he can just ignore/backtrack later (examples like support for my RNG lynch : (link) or voting yamato to push BC when yamato ends up wanting to lynch me, and not unvoting yamato despite that (link)). Ultimately what we see isn't just someone trolling, but someone strategically opting out of the discourse by taking up trolling positions, admitting they're trolling (link) (link), and leaving his vote (or his case) wherever it is convenient for him. The point he makes re: BC isn't inherently bad, but he implies that BC trying to look productive is actually scummier than Grack not trying to; and this is false. Grack can back away from any position he takes, and has, and ducks under the radar for it. This is what scum do. How much do you really know about Grack's positions? very little-- he seems to constantly change his mind about things, and never takes a serious stance. A good play for a scum player. | ||
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On November 18 2013 07:44 StorrZerg wrote: well want to be active now  Thoughts on yamato? BC? Yamato's fixation on me strikes me more as angry yamato than scum yamato, but I wouldn't put it past scum yamato to at least pretend to be mad. BC isn't on my radar relative to grack, since grack is trying to stay off the radar. I'll check out BC if I can before night end. Got any ideas for a track? | ||
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my read on yam is conditional. I left some reasoning with my mason partner since if I reveal what I think about yam meta he will game it. | ||
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On November 18 2013 08:56 raynpelikoneet wrote: Because i do not think they are necessarily town. And i do not think BH's claim makes him anything. I am not saying you are not allowed to call him scum, but you have focused on his claim for like latest 20 posts of yours. It's useless because his claim does not make him anything. Rayn is town. this post is spot on. indicates scum hunt mindset. he notices pandsin trying to make his optout look like a push. | ||
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On November 18 2013 15:45 Grackaroni wrote: I wouldn't really argue against vigging him, but the too bad to be scum does usually end up correct. (It could actually just be because there are more bad players than scum players.) now that's some bayesian reasoning! | ||
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On November 18 2013 16:02 Oatsmaster wrote: BH if you did that as town, I will shit on you every time you say you are a good player. I assume you mean figuratively, though now I'm suddenly double-checking that I've locked my door. | ||
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On November 18 2013 16:11 Oatsmaster wrote: No, I wanted you to post like a townie in the limited time you have. There is no excuse for not playing the game if you are town. you vastly overestimate the amount of time i spent on this game during the first, say, 60 hours if you think I was capable of doing anything remotely helpful during that time On November 18 2013 16:13 Grackaroni wrote: BH. Have you ever fake claimed as town before? no, though I have fake-unclaimed | ||
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On November 18 2013 16:24 thrawn2112 wrote: dude this is 100% the type of thing that BH and I talked about in qt. you randomly go from serious to trolling and it looks like you're switching between them based on whatever is going to help you be ignored or not taken seriously. I asked you a question a page or two ago, can you get to it Yeah let's do grack today honestly he's just doing this thing to stay off the radar. ##vote grackaroni | ||
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On November 18 2013 16:30 thrawn2112 wrote: yea ok so you think mocsta was bussing? I think so. in a moc/grack/foo scumteam, grack is a weak link. Moc wants to live for multiple days and get his shots off, so it's a reasonable bus. It also ties in with grack's playstyle, the troll-serious-troll thing. Moc can back off his bus if he needs to, saying "oh that was grack trolling" or something, or he can ramp up the pressure if he thinks a grack lynch is coming, and he wants credit. Both are reasonable. It's a pretty flexible bus and it makes sense with the moc role. | ||
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On November 18 2013 16:36 Oatsmaster wrote: The point I'm making is that scum Grack doesnt play like that. I dont even. What. What. Is this a scumslip? I'm not a 2-shot scum vigi and if I were I would never slip it in a post. | ||
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In any case what's really funny, what really gets my goat more than anything else is that people are like finding weird explanations for why Grack can troll and be town or whatever and then when he's serious they take him serious and when people question him he trolls and everyone thinks it's okay. People who thought he was scum just suddenly stop thinking he's scum because in his own Grack-ey way he's so loveable. This is exactly why this style of scum play is so effective. The fact that people are like "yeah that's just grack trolling or whatever dont' worry let's lynch BH" is in fact a piece of supporting evidence in my case on Grack. When it comes down to it, the reason thrawn was convinced by our interactions in the QT and you guys aren't is that your perceptions are necessarily different as a result of hearing it second hand. You're not personally building a rapport with a guy you masoned to try to get a read on him, working together on a scumread, and realizing that he's just as worried about you being scum as you are about him. You're just reading about some other guy doing that, and psychologically when we hear about an experience rather than experience it ourselves we subconsciously apply a discount to the value of that evidence. When it comes down to it, Grack has done almost nothing today that merits the townreads or at least "let's lynch him later" reads that he's earned from people. People say my case on Grack is bad because he's an "easy target" but let's be 100% real here, that's pretty much the same as saying my case on Grack is bad because Grack is probably scum. Like "easy target" = "scummy". In fact, the majority of my case on Grack has to do with the fact that he's not an easy target, that when you reach out to grasp him he slips through your fingers like smoke and vanishes like a whisper on the wind, as quickly gone as an idle daydream but as firmly remembered as a summer's romance. Perhaps this is what I deserve for that tracker claim. For what it's worth, people who insisted on policying me based on that shouldn't get crap if I can't turn this around before the day end. People who voted me for other reasons or weird meta reasons (and especially Pandain, whose thought process now seems entirely opaque to me) should get crap. Note that this of course only applies to things said before this post. Despite the fact that Rayn is on my balls (or perhaps because of it) I believe more firmly that he is town. This is Rayn play, and it's more consistent and scum-hunt-ey, however misled he may be, than scum Rayn is normally capable of. So yeah I'm gonna say as a tldr i'm not a tracker, a mason, or an assassin, and I think Grack is the optimal lynch for today and conditions have not significantly changed since the time I made my case to make me think otherwise. Rayn town, Koshi probably town. Thrawn definitely town, he could have dumped the mason logs and made me look bad at the start of the day but instead he stuck with it and tried to encourage people to talk about other things. Pandain's thought process doesn't mirror that of a townie's, so he's scum, but we're not getting him lynched unless I flip first probably so I'm gonna stick with Grack today | ||
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I don't understand Risen and take back anything I've said about him | ||
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also don't lynch rayn jesus christ | ||
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peace and love | ||
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On November 19 2013 22:43 LoneMeow wrote: Do you remember Hogwarts obs QT? I am not going to believe any sob stories about being busy and such from BH after that. Man I wasn't even gonna tell the thread, you can't use that against me >:| | ||
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my hat off to you grack you are a slippery fish | ||
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