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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
November 16 2013 03:56 GMT
#1361
On November 16 2013 12:46 BloodyC0bbler wrote:

How about you mig. Who do you think is mafia and who do you think is town?


In my current notes I have Hopeless/grack/mocsta/storr/rayne under reds. I feel most confident in hopeless/grack (as I mentioned in a previous post).
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
November 16 2013 03:57 GMT
#1362
On November 16 2013 12:49 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 12:48 yamato77 wrote:
On November 16 2013 08:58 Blazinghand wrote:
Hey so before we go all pant-head here I will upgrade to sock-head and push for an RNG lynch

So here's what happens

1) you elect me mayor

2) I will lynch the guy via RNG as determined by this post (the one you're reading right now)'s post count modulo 31. Since so many people are posting at once on TL it's impossible for us to know what's going down. I've done this before. It works.

For RNG, this post will be used for generating a random lynch. The # in the upper left corner can be right-clicked and used to access the absolute TL post # for this post. That number mod 9 is the random lynch. 1 =Oats, 2 = rayn, etc, all the way up to 8 = holyflare and 0 = sloosh.

The reason we use the absolute TL post number is that posts are constantly being made, so the number is truly random. We turn it into a number 1-9 by taking that number mod 9. What is mod? effectively, it's the remainder after division. For example. 10 mod 9 = 1. 11 mod 9 = 2. 18 mod 9 = 0. 19 mod 9 = 1. and so on.

Basically, this generates a random number 1 through 9. I am in favor of the random lynch (though am somewhat interested in a policy lynch today as well-- TL does not do this enough. I will start off by voting for the random lynched based on THIS POST.


In this case,
1 = BC
2 = Mattchew
3 = Sharrant
4 = VE

and so on

all the way up to...
30 = BH
0 = Oatsmaster

(since a multiple of 31 modulo 31 is 0, not 31).



Stopping here momentarily because I want to note just how awful this is as an entrance post over halway through d1

He made an equally "horrible" opening post in WHC. I'm not phased, and wondering why you are.


Risen is town
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
November 16 2013 03:57 GMT
#1363
On November 16 2013 12:54 Mig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 12:46 BloodyC0bbler wrote:

let me ask you this, why do you think Yamato is town? hes done absolutely nothing to me to warrant that read.


Combination of a few things, 1) tone of posts (doesn't seem worried about being viewed as town) 2) claiming that he will use the pardoner role if given it, since most people view pardoner as pro mafia I don't think many mafia would be willing to risk saying they will use it in public. 3) Revealing LM as mason. I think it was really stupid to do so but there isn't any reason for mafia to reveal this at all. Just seems like a dumb town move.



Hes been incredibly inactive and his tone of voice makes him seem like a dick, its a null tell
Claiming he will use the pardoner role if given it is extremely anti town. No single player should ever use that role period barring some weird last minute mystery reason
and outing a potential blue role before giving the player a chance to justify their actions is incredibly shady. You don't see a reason to reveal it? it means if LM eats a bullet yamato can claim "oops i fucked up" and be absolved of responsibility for the dead power role.

Nothing you mentioned is anything aside from a null tell. A town or mafia member can spout that shit.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
November 16 2013 03:58 GMT
#1364
On November 16 2013 12:56 Mig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 12:46 BloodyC0bbler wrote:

How about you mig. Who do you think is mafia and who do you think is town?


In my current notes I have Hopeless/grack/mocsta/storr/rayne under reds. I feel most confident in hopeless/grack (as I mentioned in a previous post).


You really haven't given any strong reasons as to why you think any of these guys are red. You mentioned them, but not in any real detail.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 16 2013 03:59 GMT
#1365
BC, arguing people off a townread of me is extremely unproductive.

If you want any credibility, I want follow up reads on Storr since he's been more active since you last accused him.

On November 16 2013 12:23 Mig wrote:
supersoft who do you think is scum/plan to lynch if you become mayor? I mainly just see you declaring how obvious it is you are town repeatedly without actually strongly accusing/building a real case against anyone.


This is also something I want to know, because super hasn't done jack shit this game at all.
Writer@WriterYamato
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
November 16 2013 03:59 GMT
#1366
If LM eats a bullet now yamato takes some blame. Wouldn't it be better for mafia to just not mention it at all and then shoot LM? It helps mafia none to reveal that LM is mason. It is just a dumb thing for a townie to do.
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Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 16 2013 03:59 GMT
#1367
On November 16 2013 12:54 Mig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 12:46 BloodyC0bbler wrote:

let me ask you this, why do you think Yamato is town? hes done absolutely nothing to me to warrant that read.


Combination of a few things, 1) tone of posts (doesn't seem worried about being viewed as town) 2) claiming that he will use the pardoner role if given it, since most people view pardoner as pro mafia I don't think many mafia would be willing to risk saying they will use it in public. 3) Revealing LM as mason. I think it was really stupid to do so but there isn't any reason for mafia to reveal this at all. Just seems like a dumb town move.


I can think of reasons I would do it as either alignment. Why can't you?
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 16 2013 04:00 GMT
#1368
On November 16 2013 12:49 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 12:48 yamato77 wrote:
On November 16 2013 08:58 Blazinghand wrote:
Hey so before we go all pant-head here I will upgrade to sock-head and push for an RNG lynch

So here's what happens

1) you elect me mayor

2) I will lynch the guy via RNG as determined by this post (the one you're reading right now)'s post count modulo 31. Since so many people are posting at once on TL it's impossible for us to know what's going down. I've done this before. It works.

For RNG, this post will be used for generating a random lynch. The # in the upper left corner can be right-clicked and used to access the absolute TL post # for this post. That number mod 9 is the random lynch. 1 =Oats, 2 = rayn, etc, all the way up to 8 = holyflare and 0 = sloosh.

The reason we use the absolute TL post number is that posts are constantly being made, so the number is truly random. We turn it into a number 1-9 by taking that number mod 9. What is mod? effectively, it's the remainder after division. For example. 10 mod 9 = 1. 11 mod 9 = 2. 18 mod 9 = 0. 19 mod 9 = 1. and so on.

Basically, this generates a random number 1 through 9. I am in favor of the random lynch (though am somewhat interested in a policy lynch today as well-- TL does not do this enough. I will start off by voting for the random lynched based on THIS POST.


In this case,
1 = BC
2 = Mattchew
3 = Sharrant
4 = VE

and so on

all the way up to...
30 = BH
0 = Oatsmaster

(since a multiple of 31 modulo 31 is 0, not 31).



Stopping here momentarily because I want to note just how awful this is as an entrance post over halway through d1

He made an equally "horrible" opening post in WHC. I'm not phased, and wondering why you are.

Because if he does nothing all game, we fucking lynch him for doing nothing instead of letting him live forever as useless mafia like he did in Hogwarts.
Writer@WriterYamato
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 16 2013 04:00 GMT
#1369
On November 16 2013 12:59 Mig wrote:
If LM eats a bullet now yamato takes some blame. Wouldn't it be better for mafia to just not mention it at all and then shoot LM? It helps mafia none to reveal that LM is mason. It is just a dumb thing for a townie to do.

Or he could reveal it knowing LM is town and as you can see in thread people agreed that it was scummy to mason without posting in thread so maybe the plan was to push an LM mislynch? Why can't you even see the potential for that? Are you scum?
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 16 2013 04:01 GMT
#1370
On November 16 2013 12:59 Mig wrote:
If LM eats a bullet now yamato takes some blame. Wouldn't it be better for mafia to just not mention it at all and then shoot LM? It helps mafia none to reveal that LM is mason. It is just a dumb thing for a townie to do.

LM eating a bullet is a win for town, it keeps other players alive. Masoning is mildly useful but not that necessary to winning the game.
Writer@WriterYamato
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 16 2013 04:01 GMT
#1371
On November 16 2013 13:00 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 12:49 Risen wrote:
On November 16 2013 12:48 yamato77 wrote:
On November 16 2013 08:58 Blazinghand wrote:
Hey so before we go all pant-head here I will upgrade to sock-head and push for an RNG lynch

So here's what happens

1) you elect me mayor

2) I will lynch the guy via RNG as determined by this post (the one you're reading right now)'s post count modulo 31. Since so many people are posting at once on TL it's impossible for us to know what's going down. I've done this before. It works.

For RNG, this post will be used for generating a random lynch. The # in the upper left corner can be right-clicked and used to access the absolute TL post # for this post. That number mod 9 is the random lynch. 1 =Oats, 2 = rayn, etc, all the way up to 8 = holyflare and 0 = sloosh.

The reason we use the absolute TL post number is that posts are constantly being made, so the number is truly random. We turn it into a number 1-9 by taking that number mod 9. What is mod? effectively, it's the remainder after division. For example. 10 mod 9 = 1. 11 mod 9 = 2. 18 mod 9 = 0. 19 mod 9 = 1. and so on.

Basically, this generates a random number 1 through 9. I am in favor of the random lynch (though am somewhat interested in a policy lynch today as well-- TL does not do this enough. I will start off by voting for the random lynched based on THIS POST.


In this case,
1 = BC
2 = Mattchew
3 = Sharrant
4 = VE

and so on

all the way up to...
30 = BH
0 = Oatsmaster

(since a multiple of 31 modulo 31 is 0, not 31).



Stopping here momentarily because I want to note just how awful this is as an entrance post over halway through d1

He made an equally "horrible" opening post in WHC. I'm not phased, and wondering why you are.

Because if he does nothing all game, we fucking lynch him for doing nothing instead of letting him live forever as useless mafia like he did in Hogwarts.

Why don't we lynch him after doing nothing all game and not let him get away with it instead? At least he isn't being anti-town. I don't mind lurkers/useless people as much as I used to as long as they don't poke me.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 16 2013 04:02 GMT
#1372
On November 16 2013 13:01 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 12:59 Mig wrote:
If LM eats a bullet now yamato takes some blame. Wouldn't it be better for mafia to just not mention it at all and then shoot LM? It helps mafia none to reveal that LM is mason. It is just a dumb thing for a townie to do.

LM eating a bullet is a win for town, it keeps other players alive. Masoning is mildly useful but not that necessary to winning the game.

Huh? No. Lol. Are you trying to play the "too stupid to be scum" card? It would work if I wasn't in this game, but I am... And it won't.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 16 2013 04:03 GMT
#1373
EBWOP: I'm not saying you're stupid. I'm saying it's an act. I <3 you. Big fan.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
November 16 2013 04:03 GMT
#1374
On November 16 2013 12:59 yamato77 wrote:
BC, arguing people off a townread of me is extremely unproductive.

If you want any credibility, I want follow up reads on Storr since he's been more active since you last accused him.

Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 12:23 Mig wrote:
supersoft who do you think is scum/plan to lynch if you become mayor? I mainly just see you declaring how obvious it is you are town repeatedly without actually strongly accusing/building a real case against anyone.


This is also something I want to know, because super hasn't done jack shit this game at all.



Your view of unproductive is different than mine. I am getting answers i require to get a solid read on a player. Surprisingly knowing their thought process is required for that.

Also storr never did anything substantial on his return to sway my belief of his alignment. He didn't provide any big new pieces of information. He didn't really do anything except defend himself. Fact of the matter is he looks worse than he did before. He and grack are still my two top reads for scum. That hasn't changed and neither has done anything to change that belief.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 16 2013 04:03 GMT
#1375
On November 16 2013 13:02 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 13:01 yamato77 wrote:
On November 16 2013 12:59 Mig wrote:
If LM eats a bullet now yamato takes some blame. Wouldn't it be better for mafia to just not mention it at all and then shoot LM? It helps mafia none to reveal that LM is mason. It is just a dumb thing for a townie to do.

LM eating a bullet is a win for town, it keeps other players alive. Masoning is mildly useful but not that necessary to winning the game.

Huh? No. Lol. Are you trying to play the "too stupid to be scum" card? It would work if I wasn't in this game, but I am... And it won't.

Are you seriously telling me you think a lurker mason is more useful than a veteran townie?
Writer@WriterYamato
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
November 16 2013 04:04 GMT
#1376
On November 16 2013 13:00 Risen wrote:
Or he could reveal it knowing LM is town and as you can see in thread people agreed that it was scummy to mason without posting in thread so maybe the plan was to push an LM mislynch? Why can't you even see the potential for that? Are you scum?


Eh I guess it is possible.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
November 16 2013 04:04 GMT
#1377
On November 16 2013 13:03 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 13:02 Risen wrote:
On November 16 2013 13:01 yamato77 wrote:
On November 16 2013 12:59 Mig wrote:
If LM eats a bullet now yamato takes some blame. Wouldn't it be better for mafia to just not mention it at all and then shoot LM? It helps mafia none to reveal that LM is mason. It is just a dumb thing for a townie to do.

LM eating a bullet is a win for town, it keeps other players alive. Masoning is mildly useful but not that necessary to winning the game.

Huh? No. Lol. Are you trying to play the "too stupid to be scum" card? It would work if I wasn't in this game, but I am... And it won't.

Are you seriously telling me you think a lurker mason is more useful than a veteran townie?


are you seriously trying to like backtrack how bad it is to just out a mason
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 16 2013 04:05 GMT
#1378
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 16 2013 04:05 GMT
#1379
On November 16 2013 13:04 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 13:03 yamato77 wrote:
On November 16 2013 13:02 Risen wrote:
On November 16 2013 13:01 yamato77 wrote:
On November 16 2013 12:59 Mig wrote:
If LM eats a bullet now yamato takes some blame. Wouldn't it be better for mafia to just not mention it at all and then shoot LM? It helps mafia none to reveal that LM is mason. It is just a dumb thing for a townie to do.

LM eating a bullet is a win for town, it keeps other players alive. Masoning is mildly useful but not that necessary to winning the game.

Huh? No. Lol. Are you trying to play the "too stupid to be scum" card? It would work if I wasn't in this game, but I am... And it won't.

Are you seriously telling me you think a lurker mason is more useful than a veteran townie?


are you seriously trying to like backtrack how bad it is to just out a mason

it's not even that bad.

mafia shoot him, which is actually a good thing considering his otherwise lurky nature, or he lives and masons people and mafia can't do anything else about it

I did think about this, and it is not a big deal at all.
Writer@WriterYamato
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
November 16 2013 04:06 GMT
#1380
"yes"

what you meant to say was "yes"
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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