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On November 16 2013 12:33 Mig wrote:
If you know you are town and you believe you should be elected why wouldn't you push for yourself? You have made no case for why you should be elected at all.
Can you explain exactly why ss is a good candidate to be elected?
If im going to be elected its going to be on my contributions not my bloody telling of people they should do it cause im a super vet.
I have said I want to be elected and have subsequently done what I believe coincides with that want.
I think SS is town and I think VE is town. If i'm not getting votes I should make sure the two people who should be there get to be there.
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I'd prefer people not make cases for why they should be elected and instead focus on being a leading member of discussion. Do that and the people should vote for you. Don't focus more on trying to argue with people about why you'll be a good candidate, just be a good candidate.
I am interested in the answer to this, though.
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Good enough reasoning, now move your vote to VE, please.
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Why? Hes currently being elected. No ones voting for me, whereas people are voting for VE. Given that hes in the lead why would I not get the next one in?
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On November 16 2013 06:23 supersoft wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2013 06:19 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On November 16 2013 06:18 supersoft wrote:On November 16 2013 06:12 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On November 16 2013 06:07 supersoft wrote:
i suggest you reread the thread, convince yourself that I am town; and then you come back and we play as a team. Posts like this make me think Supersoft knows VE's alignment. at some point, i have to ram some posts into the ground. two posts are that VE is town and Yamato is town. I won't question these reads until something serious happens that rattles these reads to be honest I can see yamato as town, i just don't think hes someone who should get elected. You / me / ve currently should be snagging those vests. I haven't seen anything out of yamato that says he should have extra night lives 100% agree. From a scum perspective yamato is no priority target for n1. He has no strong reads, no cases, he doesnt push the discussion in a certain direction, he questions everything always. He doesn't switch from chaos-agressive-start-the-game-mode into reasonable-direct-the-game-mode.
catching up
this is patently false, but I'll let my play from here on out prove that
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There always runs the risk of mafia getting one of the spots, and if past games have told us anything mafia usually does get pardoner at the least because they just have to latch onto a few townies votes to get some one in. So there is a risk in just blindly following some one that isn't yourself
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I just find it hard to believe you are ever going to end up mayor if you don't even vote for yourself. Seems kind of like a half hearted attempt to me.
Why do you think SS is town? More so than VE? I really don't get the SS = town, at least compared to VE/yamato who both seem more likely to be town to me.
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On November 16 2013 12:41 VayneAuthority wrote:
There always runs the risk of mafia getting one of the spots, and if past games have told us anything mafia usually does get pardoner at the least because they just have to latch onto a few townies votes to get some one in. So there is a risk in just blindly following some one that isn't yourself
True, but given he and VE are my strongest two town reads, I know im town, and recognize more people have current doubts of me apparently than SS why would I not make sure the two people I believe are town aside from myself get control of spots the mafia could run amok with?
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On November 16 2013 12:43 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2013 12:41 VayneAuthority wrote:
There always runs the risk of mafia getting one of the spots, and if past games have told us anything mafia usually does get pardoner at the least because they just have to latch onto a few townies votes to get some one in. So there is a risk in just blindly following some one that isn't yourself True, but given he and VE are my strongest two town reads, I know im town, and recognize more people have current doubts of me apparently than SS why would I not make sure the two people I believe are town aside from myself get control of spots the mafia could run amok with?
I'm just trying to understand the dichotomy here because supersoft has served a mafia agenda until recently where he has cooled it off a bit. If I had to choose between myself and SS I would easily give myself the spot.
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On November 16 2013 12:42 Mig wrote:
I just find it hard to believe you are ever going to end up mayor if you don't even vote for yourself. Seems kind of like a half hearted attempt to me.
Why do you think SS is town? More so than VE? I really don't get the SS = town, at least compared to VE/yamato who both seem more likely to be town to me.
let me ask you this, why do you think Yamato is town? hes done absolutely nothing to me to warrant that read.
I like ss's posts and they remind me strongly of every game ive seen him as town. VE feels exactly like a town VE to me. Both are playing in ways I associate with solid town play and play I expect out of them.
How about you mig. Who do you think is mafia and who do you think is town?
In regards to me ending up mayor. I want it yes, but if two people I trust to not be mafia end up getting those slots, then its almost as good as me being there. I don't care if I die provided my death gets us closer to a town victory. If that means I eat a bullet slightly earlier then so be it.
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On November 16 2013 12:39 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Why? Hes currently being elected. No ones voting for me, whereas people are voting for VE. Given that hes in the lead why would I not get the next one in?
Then vote yourself. I don't want ss as pardoner.
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On November 16 2013 12:45 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2013 12:43 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On November 16 2013 12:41 VayneAuthority wrote:
There always runs the risk of mafia getting one of the spots, and if past games have told us anything mafia usually does get pardoner at the least because they just have to latch onto a few townies votes to get some one in. So there is a risk in just blindly following some one that isn't yourself True, but given he and VE are my strongest two town reads, I know im town, and recognize more people have current doubts of me apparently than SS why would I not make sure the two people I believe are town aside from myself get control of spots the mafia could run amok with? I'm just trying to understand the dichotomy here because supersoft has served a mafia agenda until recently where he has cooled it off a bit. If I had to choose between myself and SS I would easily give myself the spot.
I agree with this. Making me wary of BC. Makes me think BC feels he's too committed and can't back down now or he'll look scummy. BC shouldn't be so worried about appearing scummy id he's town.
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On November 16 2013 08:58 Blazinghand wrote:Hey so before we go all pant-head here I will upgrade to sock-head and push for an RNG lynch So here's what happens 1) you elect me mayor 2) I will lynch the guy via RNG as determined by this post (the one you're reading right now)'s post count modulo 31. Since so many people are posting at once on TL it's impossible for us to know what's going down. I've done this before. It works. Show nested quote +For RNG, this post will be used for generating a random lynch. The # in the upper left corner can be right-clicked and used to access the absolute TL post # for this post. That number mod 9 is the random lynch. 1 =Oats, 2 = rayn, etc, all the way up to 8 = holyflare and 0 = sloosh.
The reason we use the absolute TL post number is that posts are constantly being made, so the number is truly random. We turn it into a number 1-9 by taking that number mod 9. What is mod? effectively, it's the remainder after division. For example. 10 mod 9 = 1. 11 mod 9 = 2. 18 mod 9 = 0. 19 mod 9 = 1. and so on.
Basically, this generates a random number 1 through 9. I am in favor of the random lynch (though am somewhat interested in a policy lynch today as well-- TL does not do this enough. I will start off by voting for the random lynched based on THIS POST. In this case, 1 = BC 2 = Mattchew 3 = Sharrant 4 = VE and so on all the way up to... 30 = BH 0 = Oatsmaster (since a multiple of 31 modulo 31 is 0, not 31).
Stopping here momentarily because I want to note just how awful this is as an entrance post over halway through d1
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On November 16 2013 12:45 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2013 12:43 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On November 16 2013 12:41 VayneAuthority wrote:
There always runs the risk of mafia getting one of the spots, and if past games have told us anything mafia usually does get pardoner at the least because they just have to latch onto a few townies votes to get some one in. So there is a risk in just blindly following some one that isn't yourself True, but given he and VE are my strongest two town reads, I know im town, and recognize more people have current doubts of me apparently than SS why would I not make sure the two people I believe are town aside from myself get control of spots the mafia could run amok with? I'm just trying to understand the dichotomy here because supersoft has served a mafia agenda until recently where he has cooled it off a bit. If I had to choose between myself and SS I would easily give myself the spot.
I completely disagree. Supersoft to me has done absolutely everything to further town goals. Also I would never vote for you over him.
If people were more inclined to vote me would I vote for myself? Likely but given that no one seems to want to (look how many people have already said they don't like me for a role) why would I not then put my stance behind someone else who should get it. If somehow ve is at a loss to get a slot ill swap my vote, but currently that seems incredibly unlikely
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In short, 5% SS/BC mafia team, 25% BC scum stepping out to give a player that will show him mutual trust as town leverage, 70% of this being pointless conjecture, we'll see how those numbers fluctuate over time
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On November 16 2013 12:48 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2013 08:58 Blazinghand wrote:Hey so before we go all pant-head here I will upgrade to sock-head and push for an RNG lynch So here's what happens 1) you elect me mayor 2) I will lynch the guy via RNG as determined by this post (the one you're reading right now)'s post count modulo 31. Since so many people are posting at once on TL it's impossible for us to know what's going down. I've done this before. It works. For RNG, this post will be used for generating a random lynch. The # in the upper left corner can be right-clicked and used to access the absolute TL post # for this post. That number mod 9 is the random lynch. 1 =Oats, 2 = rayn, etc, all the way up to 8 = holyflare and 0 = sloosh.
The reason we use the absolute TL post number is that posts are constantly being made, so the number is truly random. We turn it into a number 1-9 by taking that number mod 9. What is mod? effectively, it's the remainder after division. For example. 10 mod 9 = 1. 11 mod 9 = 2. 18 mod 9 = 0. 19 mod 9 = 1. and so on.
Basically, this generates a random number 1 through 9. I am in favor of the random lynch (though am somewhat interested in a policy lynch today as well-- TL does not do this enough. I will start off by voting for the random lynched based on THIS POST. In this case, 1 = BC 2 = Mattchew 3 = Sharrant 4 = VE and so on all the way up to... 30 = BH 0 = Oatsmaster (since a multiple of 31 modulo 31 is 0, not 31). Stopping here momentarily because I want to note just how awful this is as an entrance post over halway through d1
He made an equally "horrible" opening post in WHC. I'm not phased, and wondering why you are.
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On November 16 2013 12:48 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2013 12:45 VayneAuthority wrote:On November 16 2013 12:43 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On November 16 2013 12:41 VayneAuthority wrote:
There always runs the risk of mafia getting one of the spots, and if past games have told us anything mafia usually does get pardoner at the least because they just have to latch onto a few townies votes to get some one in. So there is a risk in just blindly following some one that isn't yourself True, but given he and VE are my strongest two town reads, I know im town, and recognize more people have current doubts of me apparently than SS why would I not make sure the two people I believe are town aside from myself get control of spots the mafia could run amok with? I'm just trying to understand the dichotomy here because supersoft has served a mafia agenda until recently where he has cooled it off a bit. If I had to choose between myself and SS I would easily give myself the spot. I completely disagree. Supersoft to me has done absolutely everything to further town goals. Also I would never vote for you over him. If people were more inclined to vote me would I vote for myself? Likely but given that no one seems to want to (look how many people have already said they don't like me for a role) why would I not then put my stance behind someone else who should get it. If somehow ve is at a loss to get a slot ill swap my vote, but currently that seems incredibly unlikely
bringing ice to a snowball fight ends the game, it doesn't further it. Building a fort or developing a plan of attack might though
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On November 16 2013 12:21 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2013 12:19 Alakaslam wrote:
My alternative is Blazinghand. He has not given me sufficient reason to vote him however.
BloodlyC0bbler is someone I have zero meta on, as is SuperSoft, who I would otherwise be voting now. He cannot get my vote due to my reservations. However, he will have this semi-endorsement. Even if BH HAD given you reason to vote him, by your own logic you couldn't because of reservations about Piperism (which, by the way, is laughable coming from you SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE of your BH fervor.) Just vote for me Alak, I promise I won't lynch you. Pinky swear.
You didn't read bro
Check the time stamps too
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On November 16 2013 12:46 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
let me ask you this, why do you think Yamato is town? hes done absolutely nothing to me to warrant that read.
Combination of a few things, 1) tone of posts (doesn't seem worried about being viewed as town) 2) claiming that he will use the pardoner role if given it, since most people view pardoner as pro mafia I don't think many mafia would be willing to risk saying they will use it in public. 3) Revealing LM as mason. I think it was really stupid to do so but there isn't any reason for mafia to reveal this at all. Just seems like a dumb town move.
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On November 16 2013 12:21 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2013 12:19 Alakaslam wrote:
My alternative is Blazinghand. He has not given me sufficient reason to vote him however.
BloodlyC0bbler is someone I have zero meta on, as is SuperSoft, who I would otherwise be voting now. He cannot get my vote due to my reservations. However, he will have this semi-endorsement. Even if BH HAD given you reason to vote him, by your own logic you couldn't because of reservations about Piperism (which, by the way, is laughable coming from you SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE of your BH fervor.) Just vote for me Alak, I promise I won't lynch you. Pinky swear.
alak has told me in private (previous to this game start) that the fervor is fake and he does it for his own benefit in games (ie he is playing a role).
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