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On October 28 2013 15:31 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2013 15:24 Promethelax wrote: You never took economics, did you?
What happened to make your read change? Why do you read me as town now? Not sure what economics has to do with mafia. You are totally being a pussy by not giving me POWERS. Why dont you read the post before mine? Yeah. So scum Prome posts that? I dont think so.
Economics has to do with why I wont give you powers.
I'd post that as scum.
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On October 28 2013 15:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2013 15:22 Promethelax wrote:On October 28 2013 15:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 28 2013 15:09 Promethelax wrote: Panda bear man say he no want to be looked at mean, if panda bear man is green he doesn't care but pa da bear man is red and cares about his image. He doesn't want people to think he is bad panda bear man. Yes i get that's what you are saying. What i do not get is why would Pandabearguy as mafia think he looks worse if he refuses to post the game? Because mafia. You get a little nervous and you act out of character for a townie. Oats: I think so. Why did you decide to give me power? Okay so here are the possibilities i see: (1) Pandain is town: I am accusing him of something he does not understand. He thinks i misread his meta from that game (as he said it does not apply to his overall meta) and i might make a case on him about something that is incorrect and not alignment indicative. However, when i push him to give the game out he realizes that looks worse on him if he does not give out the game, and he might get (incorrectly) accused of it. Him being a suspect for incorrect reasoning does not help the town, town is looking into wrong places and wasting time for stupid misunderstanding. (2) Pandain is scum: What you said. Now i think both of the possibilities are equally likely. Why do you think (2) is more likely than (1), because as either alignment Pandain's explanation for the game thingy is the same, and it makes as much sense regarding (1) than it does regarding (2)?
I don't have a good reason to read it as two but not one, its just how I read the situation.
Oooh, the fuck you say? Read the thread. And don't needlessly role fish. Is bad mmmkay?
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On October 28 2013 16:32 OOHCHILD wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2013 16:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 28 2013 15:57 OOHCHILD wrote: I haven't read the whole thread yet, but I have an important question for those who have not yet fully claimed. Could your power belong to either town or mafia? Mine could. I would like to ask a counter-questions (which should answer yours aswell). What would be a role that could not possibly be a role for both alignments? Also why is this so important? After I answer you, this conversation is done as far as I am concerned. Just know that you should not expect me to answer any follow up questions you have. I don't know. I do not trust you to understand this complicated idea, so I am not going to waste my time trying to explain it. Nice to meet you Raynpelikoneet. Your name sounds like it belongs to a species of beautiful, tropical parrot!
What? What?! WHAT?!?!? Why do you unilaterally decide to end your conversation? What are the benefits to town of shutting down your discussion with the parrot?
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On October 28 2013 16:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +I don't have a good reason to read it as two but not one, its just how I read the situation. So how does that make Pandain scum again? I am not following you.. OOHCHILD: I would rather hear you giving us some reads than talk about mechanics, although i do not understand why do you want to shut down this discussion like Prome said. So could you answer him and then also give some reads on people. There has been a lot going on in thread. What do you make of it?
I feel it in my bones. I can't explain logically why it should be scum rather than town, which is bothering me.
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Important: Marv don't ##yolo me. Thank you.
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The reason rhymes with bum
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You are scum for the above, my understanding of what was said was that you were saying that because everyone (town and scum) powered up oats he was not town but I know from my own role pm that anyone can power up a town power role so that was a mistake scum would make.
Your explanation of it is reasonable though.
You ah, actually didn't say what you dislike about me besides that I interpreted what you said in a way you apparently didn't mean it. You are attacking me to follow thread sentiment, not because you believe it. This post does not dissuade me from thinking you are scum, it just tells me I had the wrong reason for the right conclusion,
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On October 28 2013 18:26 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2013 18:23 Promethelax wrote: You are scum for the above, my understanding of what was said was that you were saying that because everyone (town and scum) powered up oats he was not town but I know from my own role pm that anyone can power up a town power role so that was a mistake scum would make.
Your explanation of it is reasonable though.
You ah, actually didn't say what you dislike about me besides that I interpreted what you said in a way you apparently didn't mean it. You are attacking me to follow thread sentiment, not because you believe it. This post does not dissuade me from thinking you are scum, it just tells me I had the wrong reason for the right conclusion, rofl I am not attacking you because thread sentiment. I attack you because you attack me based on wrong assumptions. I did not say he was not town for being able to be powered up by any alignement. I said he was 3p for needing EVERYBODY to vote for him.
Why 'Rofl' do you think it's funny that I caught you by totally misunderstanding you?
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I'm not dumb. Just rusty. also found it interesting how he bailed as soon as I gave him a clean bill of health. I said I liked him and he stopped posting like: goal accomplished,
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I had a similar reaction to marv's on reading the small print in my role pm. You'll note that moment was when I told Marv to not ##yolo me. I assume he has similar mechanics at work in his role and you, Rayn, have to trust me on this one: it makes sense,
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Oh, hey. Funny thought. Marv: power everyone. Town and scum. Think about interactions between their powers and you. Enjoy.
Unless it works backwards for scum.
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Interesting. We should probably all stop soft claiming. Seuss is getting a claimrection.
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SnB happened. I assume with the power of alcohol or phone posting or both. I am concerned with his vanishing act since there is no real reason to come into the thread to do/say nothing and go away again except to announce to the players that you are present and to stay off of hasn't posted lists. It's not enough for me to call SnB scum. For it yet since I have seen him play similarly as town In the past but I find it mildly concerning.
Sent hasn't come back at all. Rayn had a good point about him that Marv just quoted.
OOOH had his little argument with himself and went off again. I finally get to use my favourite words: cognitive dissonance, look how excited he was to play early in pre game and look at him now.
Sues was role fishing and every time I asked him for a read he fluffed his posts with summery and gave weak reads I. Either direction.
Pandain had his weird early game push on Rayn and some things I personally didn't like. Not sure how much water it all holds. I don't think he is the scummiest dude in the thread and he is t a good day one lynch in my opinion since we are all more or less on board with it.
Possible scum at the moment.
Koshi is back on the town side of null. I liked his answers to my being an obnoxious ass/prodding enough to remove him from possible d1 lynches. Ditto on WoS.
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On October 28 2013 20:08 marvellosity wrote:Small point of order as I'm reading through - no, he's not doing it right. Careless people. Red my emphasis Show nested quote +On October 28 2013 12:46 Promethelax wrote: You would need to post ##yolo Promethelax to power me up. If you think I am town please feel free to do so.
Show nested quote +On October 28 2013 15:15 Oatsmaster wrote: #yolo Promethelax am i doing this right? Show nested quote +On October 28 2013 15:22 Promethelax wrote: Oats: I think so. Why did you decide to give me power?
Point of Oder the y may need to be a Y not sure
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On October 28 2013 20:15 Oatsmaster wrote: Marv what are you seeing about prome? Town or scum? Because that kinda affects whether I fix my thing now or NEVER.
So Marv tells you town and you do t lay down the support you already kinda gave, what gives? We're you only going to support me if he said scum?
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Blah blah blah ongoing games blah.
Also comment on my scum reads post thx
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On October 28 2013 22:06 Oatsmaster wrote:oh i posted the oohchild could be BH thing. Yeah still dunno why you are worried. Also this is odd. Why would you think this? I think marv is town, so if marv says you are scum, then I give you powers? That doesnt make sense to me. Please explain.
Kind of totally just a jab at you. You asked what he read me as clearly implying you'd power me up if he said town; he said town you didn't power me and I made fun of you for it. On October 28 2013 22:42 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2013 22:41 Clarity_nl wrote:Hi guys, I'm caught up. No tweeting for me. So far I dislike Oats and like Prome. On October 28 2013 12:39 Oatsmaster wrote: Yeah I think marv is town for mainly that post and the fact that he didnt come out guns blazing. Baseless townread on marv is baseless. On October 28 2013 19:52 Oatsmaster wrote: marv, who other than seuss are you looking at as scum? On October 28 2013 20:15 Oatsmaster wrote: Marv what are you seeing about prome? Town or scum? Because that kinda affects whether I fix my thing now or NEVER. A bit too early to start sheeping someone. Maybe if he replied to marv's answers but he does not. Other than that Oats has pointed out a lot of things but not concluded anything about the things he points out. But mainly it's his reaction to WoS's post: + Show Spoiler +On October 28 2013 14:01 WaveofShadow wrote: Just popped in to say ##Paranoia I don't like your play this game either Prom. Your first post yelling at everybody not to be powering everybody up....I completely agree with.
I just wouldn't have expected it to come from you. You take it a step further though---you say not only is powering other people up dumb, but you say it's policy lynchable.
Have you pursued this course of action in your questioning of all of the people who have done so thus far?
And THEN, not 4 posts later, you explain to everybody how to power you up.
This reminds me of the very first ever game I played with you Prom, LX, in which you created some horseshit RNG talk early 'just to get discussion started' and you were promptly lynched for it---and flipped red.
So Prome, your reads list at the start of the game. All I remember is you saying you'd lynch me based on my entry to the thread. I don't see you pursuing your policy lynches, your apparent scumreads or your 'discussion.' Funny part is' you never actually call me scum, you just say you'd lynch me based on me entering the thread and leaving, and even THEN you don't pursue it, and have not mentioned me even once since then.
Your activity is pretty fantastic and all, and I get that you think Pandain tryharding is also pretty fantastic, but that don't mean shit imo. It's funny though, you say you'd rather base your read of Pandain off of what you get from him this game only and ignore his past meta, but you're ok to base your weak early read of me on meta even though you haven't played a game with me in ages? You are incredibly inconsistent just from your first few posts and I don't like it. I don't like it one bit sir. Care to discuss?
##Vote: Promethelax
Oats replies (intentionally or not, it's a minute later): On October 28 2013 14:02 Oatsmaster wrote: super #mindblown by Prome's play today if hes town.
Which is either reactive to WoS's case on Prome, or not, doesn't matter. Thing is, Oats just expressed a definite interest in Prome being possible scum. WoS made a case on the person that Oats just drew attention to, so what does oats have to say about that? On October 28 2013 14:02 Oatsmaster wrote: Lol WoS, prome explained what we needed to do to power him because I asked. Nothing apparently.... He just wanted to correct a detail in WoS's post. If Oats was genuinely concerned about prome being mafia, why does he not take this opportunity to talk about it? All he did was say "if town, then bad" which does nothing, pressures nothing. It's posting for the sake of posting. Yuck.
ha. Glad I wasn't the only one who thought that. Does Clarity still do the be dumb but super obvious townie thing he used to do? Also his follow up is pretty terribad, he clearly hasn't read the whole thread since Oats did 180 his read on me and clarity is pushing him to prove his old read and expound on why I'm scum. Clarity gets added to my above possible scum list.
Also meta town read on marv for, well, all the things you are calling him out on Rayn. Day one marv tries to take control and gain something as mafia. Day one town marv does his own thing and chills, makes reads and finds buddies. Marv is playing to his town meta whether you can see that or not.
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marv, that is kind of a subtle read. Not super subtle but like not a read I'd expect a newer player to have. As soon as I typed this I realized WoS isn't actually all that new anymore, carry on.
Clarity. Explain what oats is doing here that is out of character for him. Unless he started making sense and not doing stupid shit/changing his mind all the time this is totally in line with his meta AND that meta applies to both alignments so even if he wasn't doing that (which he is) it wouldn't be alignment indicative. I'd get you the venn diagram but I think you get my point.
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Show me somewhere he did that as scum. Ever.
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