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On October 29 2013 01:02 Holyflare wrote:
The only joat was mocsta who revealed his powers and hopeless who also needs to give the potions/might be scum. Syllo only revealed today, jat was only vig till today, so no, how could they know that?
Wtf are you talking about. Day 3 we knew syllo could be a watcher and innocent child, JaT could vigi, and become immune, by night 3 he full claimed before deadline into a random role everynight, plus mocstas claim and hopelesses potions. The thread knew all of this before deadline the night I was shot.
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Wait, did Onegu get hit-notified? I think i missed that.
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On October 28 2013 14:54 syllogism wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2013 06:50 Holyflare wrote:On October 28 2013 05:29 syllogism wrote:On October 28 2013 05:28 Holyflare wrote:On October 28 2013 05:22 Blazinghand wrote:
Also HF how convenient you bring this up now rather than BEFORE the CR mislynch? Well I've been having tests all day and thought it would be a skan/cr/you team, now cr is out onegu fits really well. What about his play in particular fits "really well"? Bh gets roleblocked twice in a row and there's no night kills, he's going to get a lot of flak, so onegu conveniently claims to get shot? Fits really well. Not to mention his play all game it has been tunneled. He has been soft pushing BH but with no real evidence for it. He has been on me and not really much else. Why would mafia send BH to deliver the kill twice?
Would they expect Mocsta to rb him twice?
On October 28 2013 15:01 syllogism wrote:
If Onegu's claim is fake, he had been preparing it at least since early day 3. He said that he had an ability he could use once or more precisely an ability he could only use once without hurting himself.
No framer would mean that there is no mafia left in Slytherin. I'm not willing to accept this and I think we should ignore the checks completely. If mafia framer doesn't have anything better to do with his abilities, framing Ravenclaw on n3 made perfect sense even without them knowing there was still a potential cop alive.
Yes, it made sense. But how likely is it? Do you think the framer can frame the same person 2 nights in a row? I checked Ravenclaw not only because there were few players left with one confirmed town but also because I thought if there was a time to frame CR it was N2 after the stutters lynch. If Onegu was shot he was obviously not framed. I am a little confused. Maybe Onegu is lying and scum. Maybe scum has a power that is not a normal framer but a house framer or whatever - town has so many roles and scum obviously isn't blessed at the KP front. I start to think we should ignore the cop checks altogether, too.
On October 28 2013 15:08 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2013 06:49 justanothertownie wrote:
What I am/was thinking when I last read is probably not up to date right now. I know I did not like Hopeless that much for several small reasons (defending gracks unwillingness to create a pickup line - which to me is perfectly fine by grack as he stated it - by jumping to conclusions about his motivation, telling skanjab to take a break when he got more invested - how can you read people if you tell them to retreat and carefully think about what they are saying?, a badly/weak reasoned townread on Mocsta) and I did like LAs reasoning. I did not like the strong townread the hydra was offering Pandain in our qt too.
I won't research about this in detail right now because it only takes away time I could use reading the thread but that's what stood out the most to me.
No really strong reads though. JATCan you please outline how/what the hydra went about pushing a pandain town read?
Hydra and Vayne gave Pandain an extremely strong townread very early Day1 after his opening post. Vayne just stated he is town so he only had to figure out the other gryffs alignment and Rayn said Pandain was like confirmed town. All that for a post that read very very null to me (and rightfully so as Pandain was scum).
On October 28 2013 16:21 Mocsta wrote:JATAnother one for you. According to the timestamps, do you know if Rayn voiced concerns about ET in the QT?
He asked Pandain who to lynch first out of ET and cephiro in the same post he called Pandain confirmed town.
On October 28 2013 23:08 syllogism wrote:
Hopeless you should give your presumably final potion to sn0 or JAT
Give it to Sno.
I am happy to see people finally got over Onegus "scumslip" because calling it that is insanely stupid whatever alignment he may have. I am also happy some people start trying again. I will read up some things too if I have the time later.
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On October 29 2013 01:09 Sn0_Man wrote:
Wait, did Onegu get hit-notified? I think i missed that.
Yes I did, guessing passive protection gets notified and active doesnt.
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On October 29 2013 01:05 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2013 01:02 Holyflare wrote:
The only joat was mocsta who revealed his powers and hopeless who also needs to give the potions/might be scum. Syllo only revealed today, jat was only vig till today, so no, how could they know that? Wtf are you talking about. Day 3 we knew syllo could be a watcher and innocent child, JaT could vigi, and become immune, by night 3 he full claimed before deadline into a random role everynight, plus mocstas claim and hopelesses potions. The thread knew all of this before deadline the night I was shot.
So you arent reading the thread or purposely trying to make me look bad.
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On October 29 2013 01:31 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2013 01:05 Onegu wrote:On October 29 2013 01:02 Holyflare wrote:
The only joat was mocsta who revealed his powers and hopeless who also needs to give the potions/might be scum. Syllo only revealed today, jat was only vig till today, so no, how could they know that? Wtf are you talking about. Day 3 we knew syllo could be a watcher and innocent child, JaT could vigi, and become immune, by night 3 he full claimed before deadline into a random role everynight, plus mocstas claim and hopelesses potions. The thread knew all of this before deadline the night I was shot. So you arent reading the thread or purposely trying to make me look bad.
Don't try and trash what i say, he only claimed today:
On October 26 2013 04:11 justanothertownie wrote:
Ok, I lied. In fact I was not unkillable tonight. Don't ask me why I did that - I had my reasons and I guarantee you won't understand until postgame. If scum was bold enough to shoot me don't speculate about my role (which role I rolled each night and how I used it for example because the pool will be revealed to you if I flip and it is quite big) there is nothing to gain by that.
I rolled Housecop tonight. Checked Ravenclaw.
Cephiro was right btw. I am Neville Longbottom the forgetful.
Mocsta said he was town pandain, so no cop check, only syllo uttered something about being joat and only revealed he had a rb today, his lumos is completely different from a cop check. Why are you ignoring the rest of what I've posted??
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Also why, the biggest question of why, would someone frame your house when syllo has a who visited my house power???
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On October 25 2013 06:03 justanothertownie wrote:
So, I already said my role included luck. In fact I get a random role (there is a certain "pool" of possible roles) every night. N1 I got vig role N2 I was immune to night actions (that's why I certainly was not checked by the cop). I think he received the result "1 scum" instead of X scum + Y town because hosts didn't know how to include me who didn't get checked at all.
Guess what I got this time? The same as yesterday...
So docs don't save me. It won't even work and it is also not needed because scum can't kill me anyways.
Start of night 3
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So you're saying he didn't get cop tonight, let's frame cr when syllo can check it?
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And im not ignoreing what you are saying I am giveing you reasons why RC would be framed. Also from reading syllos response he didnt know who visited our house n2 only that someone had.
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On October 29 2013 02:06 Holyflare wrote:
So you're saying he didn't get cop tonight, let's frame cr when syllo can check it?
Could you refresh me about this power of syllo?
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Lumos (unlocked at start) - Allows you to see how many people (not specifically who) visited your house that night. PM the host with ##Lumos.
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So, does it have unlimited uses?
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No idea have to ask syllo that, storrzers he could use it 4 times before he had to give it up, no idea about syllo.
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Didn't pandain have that with only 2 uses or somethign?
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The point is, mafia wouldn't know how many uses it has or when he could use it. Why would they risk even going to syllo's house to frame??
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On October 29 2013 02:20 Holyflare wrote:
The point is, mafia wouldn't know how many uses it has or when he could use it. Why would they risk even going to syllo's house to frame??
Because there still isnt any risk to do so, and there is much to gain. Even if syllo uses lumos it doesnt confirm anything.
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Holyflare what's your working theory regarding NK last night?
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On October 29 2013 02:26 syllogism wrote:
Holyflare what's your working theory regarding NK last night?
Thats actually checkmate... o.o
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If syllo claims someone visited his house townies would do nothing but confirm that it was them at this point. You can't because you've been forced into a vet role to save bh. BH can't because he is role blocked.
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