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raynpelikonoshi
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
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Grackaroni
United States9835 Posts
On October 29 2013 03:47 raynpelikonoshi wrote: A while ago i finshed reading Grackaroni's filter. Since other people i consider town are filtering other suspects i decided to do Grack first. This is what i find important: (1) Grack has a lot of scumreads. Nothing but Skanjabs last for like a half of a page in his filter (besides his townread on BH - for what?). (2) He does never really try to push a lynch on Skanjabs. Not on D2, when he makes the case, not on D3 when he thought Cephiro was town. There is always a better alternative in the end, despite Skanjabs remaining as his scumread for the whole game since he made the case. (3) He asks people a lot about Skanjabs, but never follows these questions up. In addition to that, he does never really interact with Skanjabs in any way - trying to find out who he is scum with, or making him say something that could enforce his case. (4) In fact, his interactions with other people do not seem like he is really trying to scumhunt. Half of his filter is pure trolling and other half is calling Skanjabs scum while never pushing his lynch like a townie should push his scumread (taking account his interactions with other people regarding Skan). (5) None of the people that i think have a chance of flipping scum in this game do not consider Grackaroni as scum. Why is that? He is one of the people whose role is not confirmed nor does it point heavily towards him being town. He is a possible mislynch for scum, in case he is town. Why is there zero scum at least putting up some suspicion on him? Given what he has done this game i find that really fishy. Hah. Another shitty Rayn case. | ||
syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
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raynpelikonoshi
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
On October 29 2013 03:58 Sn0_Man wrote: The only problem with rayn's case is that it isn't like the real townies are doing the catch scum thing either ![]() We are, it's just that there were people like CR and Cephiro.. | ||
Grackaroni
United States9835 Posts
1) the list wasn't scum reads. I was ruling people out. The reason I ruled out BH was because i figured this setup would have a medic and BH being medic and RNG made sense considering nobody had healed syllogism and that's what medic should have done. (would have died to Sn0 Man) 2) Case came after day2 because that is when the vote switch happened. Cephiro and CR were both a dead lock. 3) I did interact with Skanjab1s... 4) I pushed Skan. I was really counting on Skanjab1s having exposed himself to save CR. I was mistaken. He still contradicts himself a lot but I'm not as convinced. 5) 5 is actually decent. | ||
Grackaroni
United States9835 Posts
On October 29 2013 03:57 syllogism wrote: So make a better one Grack instead of putting people down for no reason I think Rayn can handle it. | ||
Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
Where's koshi's hufflepuff picture it describes this game so gud. | ||
raynpelikonoshi
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
On October 29 2013 04:03 Grackaroni wrote: Lots of problems with his case. 1) the list wasn't scum reads. I was ruling people out. The reason I ruled out BH was because i figured this setup would have a medic and BH being medic and RNG made sense considering nobody had healed syllogism and that's what medic should have done. (would have died to Sn0 Man) 2) Case came after day2 because that is when the vote switch happened. Cephiro and CR were both a dead lock. 3) I did interact with Skanjab1s... 4) I pushed Skan. I was really counting on Skanjab1s having exposed himself to save CR. I was mistaken. He still contradicts himself a lot but I'm not as convinced. 5) 5 is actually decent. 1) Anyone looking into your filter will see that you have been calling BH town (at least softly) all game. 2) The point about Cephiro and D3 still stands. Also if you were voting for CR on D4 based on the cop check (you never give any reasoning for why he is scum over Skan), you should have been voting for me instead as i apparently am your scumread. 3) Yes, but it does not seem like you are interacting with your scumread in a sense i brought up in my case. 4) I do not see it. And pre-flip associations are bad. On a sidenote, i am not sure if my night action goes through because i might have missed the deadline. Not that it means much, but still.. :/ | ||
Grackaroni
United States9835 Posts
On October 29 2013 04:08 Sn0_Man wrote: There's so much wrong with ur point 1 grack. Where's koshi's hufflepuff picture it describes this game so gud. Obviously it was wrong in retrospect. I couldn't have known you were a vengeful medic. All I knew was that you were able to kill people who target X and used it on Syllogism. | ||
Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
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Grackaroni
United States9835 Posts
On October 29 2013 04:08 raynpelikonoshi wrote: 1) Anyone looking into your filter will see that you have been calling BH town (at least softly) all game. 2) The point about Cephiro and D3 still stands. Also if you were voting for CR on D4 based on the cop check (you never give any reasoning for why he is scum over Skan), you should have been voting for me instead as i apparently am your scumread. 3) Yes, but it does not seem like you are interacting with your scumread in a sense i brought up in my case. 4) I do not see it. And pre-flip associations are bad. On a sidenote, i am not sure if my night action goes through because i might have missed the deadline. Not that it means much, but still.. :/ 1) And I just told you why I thought BH was town; I've explained it earlier too. 2)I said I was against the Cephiro lynch. People weren't going to change their mind so I didn't bother. I had a connection between Skan/CR so the redcheck was good enough for me. I also thought Yamato's absence was suspicious and it didn't help that CR's first reaction was to pin the red check onto Onegu without considering framers while doing so for other houses. 4) I stand by it. You should look for people switching votes with poor reasoning. That is how you scumhunt. | ||
Grackaroni
United States9835 Posts
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raynpelikonoshi
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
I found it hilarious because of what happened in Golden Sun D1. :D Did Skanjabs ever answer to you regarding that? You did the very same thing in Golden Sun and by proxy that should "prove" to you he is in fact scum. You have not been pushing him hard, you have not stood behind your scumread and go against people who are wrong. I don't know why you would do that as town. If you have enough balls to call Cephiro town on D3 when everyone is scum he is scum why don't you have balls to convince people that Skanjabs is scum? | ||
raynpelikonoshi
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
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Grackaroni
United States9835 Posts
On October 29 2013 04:20 raynpelikonoshi wrote: I remember you calling out Skanjabs for changing his vote from his scumread to a target that was pushed by his scumread correct? I found it hilarious because of what happened in Golden Sun D1. :D Did Skanjabs ever answer to you regarding that? You did the very same thing in Golden Sun and by proxy that should "prove" to you he is in fact scum. You have not been pushing him hard, you have not stood behind your scumread and go against people who are wrong. I don't know why you would do that as town. If you have enough balls to call Cephiro town on D3 when everyone is scum he is scum why don't you have balls to convince people that Skanjabs is scum? Was CR pushing Stutters? | ||
Grackaroni
United States9835 Posts
Well that's not entirely true; the fact that you come back later to accuse me of not pushing Skanjab1s is pretty funny too. | ||
justanothertownie
16316 Posts
On October 29 2013 04:10 Hopeless1der wrote: btw i gave antidote to JAT I thought I said give it to Sno... | ||
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