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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 28 2013 18:49 GMT
#4721
EBWOP: Ignore the double negative in (5).
Koshi & raynpelikoneet hydra
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 28 2013 18:53 GMT
#4722
I have him in my qt and his responses have been ok, however, i did point out that pandain called him REALLY towny which was odd at that point seeing as he didn't really done anything. I'm not ruling him out either, but i am very confident in a bh/onegu scum team which will leave 2 of my days free for searching for this stuff.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
October 28 2013 18:56 GMT
#4723
On October 29 2013 03:47 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
A while ago i finshed reading Grackaroni's filter. Since other people i consider town are filtering other suspects i decided to do Grack first. This is what i find important:
(1) Grack has a lot of scumreads. Nothing but Skanjabs last for like a half of a page in his filter (besides his townread on BH - for what?).
(2) He does never really try to push a lynch on Skanjabs. Not on D2, when he makes the case, not on D3 when he thought Cephiro was town. There is always a better alternative in the end, despite Skanjabs remaining as his scumread for the whole game since he made the case.
(3) He asks people a lot about Skanjabs, but never follows these questions up. In addition to that, he does never really interact with Skanjabs in any way - trying to find out who he is scum with, or making him say something that could enforce his case.
(4) In fact, his interactions with other people do not seem like he is really trying to scumhunt. Half of his filter is pure trolling and other half is calling Skanjabs scum while never pushing his lynch like a townie should push his scumread (taking account his interactions with other people regarding Skan).
(5) None of the people that i think have a chance of flipping scum in this game do not consider Grackaroni as scum. Why is that? He is one of the people whose role is not confirmed nor does it point heavily towards him being town. He is a possible mislynch for scum, in case he is town. Why is there zero scum at least putting up some suspicion on him? Given what he has done this game i find that really fishy.

Hah. Another shitty Rayn case.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
October 28 2013 18:57 GMT
#4724
So make a better one Grack instead of putting people down for no reason
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 28 2013 18:58 GMT
#4725
Don't take the bait rayn. I've yet to actually read your case, but ignore the grackhead for the time being.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
October 28 2013 18:58 GMT
#4726
The only problem with rayn's case is that it isn't like the real townies are doing the catch scum thing either
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 28 2013 19:03 GMT
#4727
On October 29 2013 03:58 Sn0_Man wrote:
The only problem with rayn's case is that it isn't like the real townies are doing the catch scum thing either

We are, it's just that there were people like CR and Cephiro..
Koshi & raynpelikoneet hydra
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
October 28 2013 19:03 GMT
#4728
Lots of problems with his case.
1) the list wasn't scum reads. I was ruling people out. The reason I ruled out BH was because i figured this setup would have a medic and BH being medic and RNG made sense considering nobody had healed syllogism and that's what medic should have done. (would have died to Sn0 Man)

2) Case came after day2 because that is when the vote switch happened. Cephiro and CR were both a dead lock.

3) I did interact with Skanjab1s...

4) I pushed Skan. I was really counting on Skanjab1s having exposed himself to save CR. I was mistaken. He still contradicts himself a lot but I'm not as convinced.

5) 5 is actually decent.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
October 28 2013 19:05 GMT
#4729
On October 29 2013 03:57 syllogism wrote:
So make a better one Grack instead of putting people down for no reason

I think Rayn can handle it.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
October 28 2013 19:08 GMT
#4730
There's so much wrong with ur point 1 grack.

Where's koshi's hufflepuff picture it describes this game so gud.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 28 2013 19:08 GMT
#4731
On October 29 2013 04:03 Grackaroni wrote:
Lots of problems with his case.
1) the list wasn't scum reads. I was ruling people out. The reason I ruled out BH was because i figured this setup would have a medic and BH being medic and RNG made sense considering nobody had healed syllogism and that's what medic should have done. (would have died to Sn0 Man)

2) Case came after day2 because that is when the vote switch happened. Cephiro and CR were both a dead lock.

3) I did interact with Skanjab1s...

4) I pushed Skan. I was really counting on Skanjab1s having exposed himself to save CR. I was mistaken. He still contradicts himself a lot but I'm not as convinced.

5) 5 is actually decent.

1) Anyone looking into your filter will see that you have been calling BH town (at least softly) all game.
2) The point about Cephiro and D3 still stands. Also if you were voting for CR on D4 based on the cop check (you never give any reasoning for why he is scum over Skan), you should have been voting for me instead as i apparently am your scumread.
3) Yes, but it does not seem like you are interacting with your scumread in a sense i brought up in my case.
4) I do not see it. And pre-flip associations are bad.

On a sidenote, i am not sure if my night action goes through because i might have missed the deadline. Not that it means much, but still.. :/
Koshi & raynpelikoneet hydra
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
October 28 2013 19:09 GMT
#4732
On October 29 2013 04:08 Sn0_Man wrote:
There's so much wrong with ur point 1 grack.

Where's koshi's hufflepuff picture it describes this game so gud.

Obviously it was wrong in retrospect. I couldn't have known you were a vengeful medic. All I knew was that you were able to kill people who target X and used it on Syllogism.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 28 2013 19:10 GMT
#4733
btw i gave antidote to JAT
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
October 28 2013 19:13 GMT
#4734
On October 29 2013 04:08 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2013 04:03 Grackaroni wrote:
Lots of problems with his case.
1) the list wasn't scum reads. I was ruling people out. The reason I ruled out BH was because i figured this setup would have a medic and BH being medic and RNG made sense considering nobody had healed syllogism and that's what medic should have done. (would have died to Sn0 Man)

2) Case came after day2 because that is when the vote switch happened. Cephiro and CR were both a dead lock.

3) I did interact with Skanjab1s...

4) I pushed Skan. I was really counting on Skanjab1s having exposed himself to save CR. I was mistaken. He still contradicts himself a lot but I'm not as convinced.

5) 5 is actually decent.

1) Anyone looking into your filter will see that you have been calling BH town (at least softly) all game.
2) The point about Cephiro and D3 still stands. Also if you were voting for CR on D4 based on the cop check (you never give any reasoning for why he is scum over Skan), you should have been voting for me instead as i apparently am your scumread.
3) Yes, but it does not seem like you are interacting with your scumread in a sense i brought up in my case.
4) I do not see it. And pre-flip associations are bad.

On a sidenote, i am not sure if my night action goes through because i might have missed the deadline. Not that it means much, but still.. :/

1) And I just told you why I thought BH was town; I've explained it earlier too.
2)I said I was against the Cephiro lynch. People weren't going to change their mind so I didn't bother. I had a connection between Skan/CR so the redcheck was good enough for me. I also thought Yamato's absence was suspicious and it didn't help that CR's first reaction was to pin the red check onto Onegu without considering framers while doing so for other houses.
4) I stand by it. You should look for people switching votes with poor reasoning. That is how you scumhunt.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
October 28 2013 19:16 GMT
#4735
It's a pretty difficult game to solve when we haven't had a single wagon on scum yet this game.
raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 28 2013 19:20 GMT
#4736
I remember you calling out Skanjabs for changing his vote from his scumread to a target that was pushed by his scumread correct?

I found it hilarious because of what happened in Golden Sun D1. :D
Did Skanjabs ever answer to you regarding that? You did the very same thing in Golden Sun and by proxy that should "prove" to you he is in fact scum. You have not been pushing him hard, you have not stood behind your scumread and go against people who are wrong. I don't know why you would do that as town. If you have enough balls to call Cephiro town on D3 when everyone is scum he is scum why don't you have balls to convince people that Skanjabs is scum?
Koshi & raynpelikoneet hydra
raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 28 2013 19:21 GMT
#4737
EBWOP: "...when everyone thinks he is scum..."
Koshi & raynpelikoneet hydra
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
October 28 2013 19:22 GMT
#4738
On October 29 2013 04:20 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
I remember you calling out Skanjabs for changing his vote from his scumread to a target that was pushed by his scumread correct?

I found it hilarious because of what happened in Golden Sun D1. :D
Did Skanjabs ever answer to you regarding that? You did the very same thing in Golden Sun and by proxy that should "prove" to you he is in fact scum. You have not been pushing him hard, you have not stood behind your scumread and go against people who are wrong. I don't know why you would do that as town. If you have enough balls to call Cephiro town on D3 when everyone is scum he is scum why don't you have balls to convince people that Skanjabs is scum?

Was CR pushing Stutters?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
October 28 2013 19:31 GMT
#4739
The only thing I find funny about that situation is that when I do that in Golden Sun you call me out as scum. You think Skanjab1s made the same mistake that I had made in Golden Sun this game but rather than call him out on it you avoid commenting on the case and instead accuse me of making a case against a weaker player and following my scum meta. Then you start insisting that I write a case on you when I wasn't even interested in lynching you.

Well that's not entirely true; the fact that you come back later to accuse me of not pushing Skanjab1s is pretty funny too.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
October 28 2013 19:38 GMT
#4740
On October 29 2013 04:10 Hopeless1der wrote:
btw i gave antidote to JAT

I thought I said give it to Sno...
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