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On October 06 2013 06:33 s0Lstice wrote: whats this with vayne now austin?
maybe im being dumb but I'm not seeing how what he's saying is more scum than crazy As I see things, sacrificing KP to vest oneself is silly.
Read the posts, but tl;dr is:
VA says Oats is a "prime bulletproof target", that the shot was bad, and that scumOats would have bulletproofed
Koshi said he had no shot. Right until the last minute, it was POSSIBLE he was being tricksy but seemed unlikely given how open he's been about his actions.
GODDAMN I CANNOT TL;DR TO SAVE MY LIFE
So the only shots that mafia would be EXPECTING are from scum
(1) If oats is on the three-man team...WHY DOES THE ONE MAN TEAM SHOOT HIM? There are confirmed townies. There's the chance to get a drive-by the next night. Oats is a possible mislynch. WHY WOULD THE ONE DUDE SHOOT OATS? Makes no sense.
(2) If oats is on the one-man team...WHY DOES THE THREE MAN TEAM SHOOT OATS? Same thing. Confirmed townies. Drive-by option. GREAT MISLYNCH. WHY SHOOT OATS?
Fact is, nobody thought Koshi had a shot. It was a paranoid thought, perhaps, for those of us super paranoid, but never even DISCUSSED or HINTED AT. So the only shots expected last night were mafia.
And VA is suggesting that MAFIA OATS would have been a great target for a MAFIA SHOT, so much so that OATS WOULD HAVE BULLETPROOFED JUST IN CASE, SACCING KP TO DO SO.
Mafia, of either team, have NO INCENTIVE TO SHOOT TOWN OATS. HE IS A GREAT MISLYNCH. HE'S CLEARLY BEING SET UP YESTERDAY.
MAFIA WOULD NOT SHOOT OATS EVARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.
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Besides not making sense, VA saying it was a "bad shot" when NOBODY KNEW KOSHI COULD SHOOT is
silly
designed to undermine koshi
A STATEMENT INDICATING THAT HE IS DISAPPOINTED THAT KOSHI WOULD SHOOT OATS WHEN WE NOW KNOW THAT OATS IS TOWN WHICH IS A GOOD THING. GOOD THINGS ARE GOOD AND MAKE US HAPPY. GOOD THINGS MAKE SCUM SAD.
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On October 06 2013 06:46 VayneAuthority wrote: now please address how you still think pandain tunneling me and protecting FT makes him town when I have proven the exact opposite to be true. still waiting on that Read. Filter. + Show Spoiler +On October 04 2013 08:23 austinmcc wrote: Pandain looks townier for all this jazz. Even if he's trying to hard defend FT, he's putting a lot of work into it for 0 reward. That feels townie.
I like VE lynch. I like Palmar lynch. I like solstice posting more.
I still don't like Koshi.
VE and Palmar both fall under similar rubrick, where they are active at times (VE D1, Palmar part of D1, time to argue with Rayn) but generally absent and not affecting the game at all. They've got bulletproof vests (unless they're scum). Palmar smells with his being entirely ambivalent about the lynch, never pushing anything, and generally just sitting in the background.
VE smells for basically doing jack, smells slightly slightly slightly for pushing Hiro so hard but that could be perfectly legitimate, but generally just being a nothingmaster.
Palmar also generally absent as far as DOING things goes, being more than just a presence. Some activity D1, some fighting with Rayn, but otherwise just ambivalence about a lynch and ambivalence about the game in general.
In the interest of having only one Pa- poster
##vote: Palmar
I think that leaving votes on FT and just mucking about "maybe FT maybe not FT" is a bad way to spend this day (Just like it was a bad way for me to afk 24 hours of it). If we just chat about FT and argue about him, we're losing a day and I honestly think that's a mislynch. FT has done diddly in response to pressure, yes. It makes him look worse, yes. But I don't actually think he's scum, and even if he is, there are....other scum? It's more productive to chase other scum right now, imo, if that makes sense.
Solstice, keep posting. On October 04 2013 08:30 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2013 08:25 VayneAuthority wrote: actually it makes him scummier austin, but I still can't say anything. ffs... He's not even hard defending though, he's hard defending WITH VIGOR. I don't know pandain's play from Adam's, but in general I find someone who's going back to past games and posting about them, actually using them, as well as posting this much and this hard about someone, to be a townie thang. Especially when he's getting NO traction with it, there's currently no payoff, nobody talking with him, nobody to convince, it's just posting a read into a vacuum and hoping to do something with it. You find it defending el scumbuddiero? Or just a ton of activity on a single subject concerning a read you disagree with? On October 05 2013 05:31 austinmcc wrote: I do not want to kill Pandain next. While he did try and skirt Palmar as the alternative to FT, he put in so much fanatical work that I think he would have given up sooner/done less as scum. On October 05 2013 09:35 austinmcc wrote: Scum may defend townies for points, but scum defending FT THAT hard is something I don't see. Once you call him town, try to push FT = town for a bit, you've done your job as scum. Pandain's posts on FT are so over-the-top and so constant that I really don't like him for scum. On October 05 2013 10:22 austinmcc wrote:If Pandain were scum, and a MCB no less, then this would be QUITE out of place: Show nested quote +On October 05 2013 02:53 Pandain wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote Palmar
##Unvote ##Vote VA
There now he should be in the lead Based on a faulty vote count of mine, he voted/unvoted so that Palmar would get lynched over FT (at the time). On October 06 2013 05:00 austinmcc wrote:Okay. Some thoughts in case I get double-stacked. Koshi/VE/Rayn town means 8 unknowns. Of those 8 unknown, 4 are mafia. For every townie, you can remove yourself, you're looking at 3 townies/4 mafia remaining. 1 mafia flying solo now, one full team. I eliminate myself. PandainI eliminate Pandain, you can see why in my filter, but overall it's the effort and the push just to try and save a townie. IF VA flips mafia, look at Pandain and see whether you think he's town or bussing, but I think anyone who pushes super hard to lynch Pandain without knowing whether VA is mafia or not is RIDIKKEROUS/mafia. + Show Spoiler +Anyone who pushes Pandain RIGHT NOW is saying he's mafia, putting on a big show, trying to get town points for saving a townie (WITHIN THIS GAME). But here's the thing, what they're NOT saying is that he tried to push the lynch on VA. He didn't just say "Don't lynch FT." He ALSO said "lynch VA." THIS IS IMPORTANT. Anyone who doesn't mention this, doesn't factor this in, isn't really viewing Pandain fully. Just consider this, would your read on Pandain change based on VA's flip? If so, if you think Pandain fits the full team remaining, then VA flipping scum would mean Pandain probably HARD bussing VA, actively pushing him for lynch. I don't like that scenario.
So more than just generally thinking Pandain is town for his D3 play, I think that a push on Pandain is crappy/somewhat suspicious if people aren't looking at VA as well. ESPECIALLY anyone scummy on VA but also pushing Pandain, if anyone fits that bill (I haven't checked right now), then they are VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY SCUMMY. Look at all those very-s. So for me, Pandain. Great. Now we're down to 2/4. OatsOats is sitting on his ass doing next-to-nothing. He's EITHER mafia or sweet sweet mislynch material. But the line between the two is thin. Both sides are legitimate. Don't lynch him tomorrow, please please please. I'm assuming at this point that, either way, he doesn't redeem himself. I both still have him on the slightly townie side of the line because of his posting AND think that if you ask yourself, WWMD, oats is a prime prime prime mislynch target. Make them work for a mislynch. Pull the rug out, make them find someone else, someone that hasn't been primed with bits and bits of suspicion and who can be argued about. It's way too easy to call oats mafia right now. IF oats is town, force mafia to work at getting someone else lynched. If he's mafia, there are 4 of em, find another on. Oats too cheery and too playful with Palmar on D1 to be on that team. Cheesecake's post was BUTT because IF oats is town, that's exactly what mafia needs to do. Point to all the times oats utters the word "Palmar", without adding any context, and without realizing that HOLY CRAP THAT'S A LOT OF MENTIONS AND A LOT OF DIRECT ASSOCIATION AND MAYBE THIS IS NOT A TEAM. I think it's low-hanging fruit that, when picked, tastes like poopoo fruit. And cheesecake picked that poopoo fruit and tried to feed it to you. Don't eat the poopoo fruit. Oats probably town, maybe mafia, but overall just not what should happen TOMORROW, and not on Palmar's team. If ANYTHING, oats's posts on D1 if he's mafia show he's other team, because of how he's goading Palmar and rayn into flinging shit at each other. Neither on his team, he doesn't care, lynch either of em or get em to argue, no skin off his back. Just keep fanning the flames between em and enjoy. If he's mafia, he's non-Palmar. And really, he's got some townie-minded posts, he says throwaway crap like this: Show nested quote +On October 05 2013 03:30 Oatsmaster wrote: Yo! Im not scum.
I Still kinda wanna lynch CR for being so totally clean with his posts and saying a lotta weird shit inside.
he's town on my list. *********HEY HEY IF I DIE AND THEN OATS DIES AND HE IS TOWN YOU NEED TO REMEMBER THIS POST. OATS, IF TOWN, = EASY MISLYNCH. LOOK FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ALL OF A SUDDEN START PUSHING HIM AND MAYBE AVOIDING OTHER PEOPLE YOU'VE SEEN FLIP MAFIA************ Down to 1/4 WoSEveryone is reading his posts overnight and going "So town." Yeah, they look townie. But he's played an entire game, not just tonight. Look at his Palmar read. Look at his actions right before the Palmar lynch. He can't read Palmar. Over and over and over can't read can't read. Except he DOES have these weak leanings, when really pushed he'll say think town, thought town now a little scummier, etc. etc. It's not that he can't read Palmar, it's a mix of "I'm not good at Palmar, but here's what I think, but maybe I'm wrong, who knows, not gonna bother, etc. etc. etc." It's a scummy way of dealing with a read on Palmar. And AT lynch time, he's calling Palmar scum but trying to shunt the lynch away. Again, I don't care how townie he looks right now. That is scummy scummyumpkins. However, here's the deal. I like him way more as THIRD SCUM than I do as other team. I think? So DO NOT LYNCH HIM TOMORROW IF I DIE. If he's not third scum, he suddenly looks a good bit less scummy (I think!? Other team still probably doesn't want Palmar lynched if they can help it). Don't go for him tomorrow. If you find third scum, re-evaluate. Make him keep working. CROh yeah lynch this dude tomorrow. He's not been newbie. He's been near useless, despite getting lynched for contributions in other game that people found scummy. His posts all avoid direct scumhunting. He never casually posts. Lynch this dude. Lynch him. I RAN OUT OF TIME BOLLOCKS. If Oats town, cheese scum. That one post does it. SOME OTHER PEOPLE ARE ALSO SCUM THIS POST SUCKS SO MUCH AS A LAST MINUTE POST WTF
Also, I read your last couple posts and I see that you think I'm scum with pandain.
If nothing else, hoooolyyyyy crap. He wants to lynch you yesterday. He wants to lynch you in the face. You have some votes. Some people will vote for you over Palmar, moreover, as an FT alternative.
You know who was really pushing for Palmar? You know who was arguing with Pandain and saying Pandain should be on Palmar and NOT you?
(Hint: It was me)
So, effectively, at this point what you are arguing is that TWO scum players had townreads on a dude (FT). They argued that he SHOULDN'T BE LYNCHED. One scum player, pandain, argued that VA, a poor old innocent townie, SHOULD. The other scum player, me, argued that Palmar (who flipped scum) should be lynched, not VA. They had a lot of back and forth. There are posts. You can read them. You think we both saved a townie, tried to save a townie (because we were arguing before this modkill stuff came up), and i actively argued with another scum player to lynch scum over poor poor townie VA.
The team you apparently think exists is riddikerous.
Read the hint. If you're actually town, you think I argued
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On October 06 2013 07:00 VayneAuthority wrote: lol what? that spoilered post doesnt answer my question at all.
and if you honestly expect me to believe that scumteams dont argue in thread then you must be thinking your talking to chairman ray or something.
I just spent half of golden sun arguing about shit with grackaroni and we were both scum. Your question doesn't need answering. You want to know why x and y make Pandain town.
Your post presumes that my townread is based on that.
I don't care about that at all.
He's town for the reasons in my filter. You KNOW if read my filter that I think he's town, and I think he's town for different reasons.
No. It doesn't answer you question. Because your question is "Why do you think x makes pandain town?" When it turns out I don't care about x at all, and you'd know that if you read my filter.
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Your question is the Pandain-read equivalent of "Have you told your parents that you are gay?" for middle schoolers. Either I say pandain is town for reasons I don't care about or I say he's scummy when he's a townread of mine (This is pushing it but I wanted to make the metaphor).
We'll just go with this.
You think that Pandain is the tippy toppy most obvious scum out there? You think that when there are 4 mafia, he is the MOST obvious? You are convinced that we just gotta gotta gotta kill that Pandain?
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I'm going to stop because I would rather lynch someone else today AND I'm going to become even sillier if this keeps up.
If you want to keep pushing this, I'm going to need you to get clearance from the confirmed townies that you are making sense about oats, and making sense about me calling you out on it. If you get that, I will continue to do this, but I WILL be sillier and it WON'T be the greatest thing ever for the thread.
I'll even toss you this, something entirely unrelated to your bulletproof comments and pandain. What do you make of this POST? What do you make of cheesecake at the moment?On October 06 2013 00:04 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Oats is scum because: Show nested quote +On September 29 2013 05:22 Oatsmaster wrote: I think Palmar is 3p actually. If they exist. Show nested quote +On September 27 2013 18:52 Oatsmaster wrote: Yeah I agree with you palmar. hiro has been not pushing people with questions.
-Concerning Palmar making sense in a scummy way- Show nested quote +On September 27 2013 23:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 27 2013 23:04 Oatsmaster wrote: Leading on, rayn, how do you have these townreads on me and VE? Both of you are not making sense in a scumy way. Show nested quote +On September 27 2013 23:06 Oatsmaster wrote: But Palmar is? I dont understand man.
Show nested quote +On September 27 2013 23:09 Oatsmaster wrote:On September 27 2013 23:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 27 2013 23:06 Oatsmaster wrote: But Palmar is? I dont understand man.
It doesn't matter, you don't need to understand. I kinda wanna lynch WoS. I kinda do need to understand how you formulate reads to know if you are town or scum. For example, I think that your current reads on me and VE are not very well substantiated and you are avoiding giving Palmar a town read for no good reason. Show nested quote +On September 27 2013 23:17 Oatsmaster wrote:On September 27 2013 23:15 Grackaroni wrote:On September 27 2013 23:09 Oatsmaster wrote:On September 27 2013 23:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 27 2013 23:06 Oatsmaster wrote: But Palmar is? I dont understand man.
It doesn't matter, you don't need to understand. I kinda wanna lynch WoS. I kinda do need to understand how you formulate reads to know if you are town or scum. For example, I think that your current reads on me and VE are not very well substantiated and you are avoiding giving Palmar a town read for no good reason. Lol reasons everyone has reasons townies have reasons, scum have reasons. I believe a great man once told me bad reasons/no reason are towny I believe that you are taking those great words out of context. Rayn ok, what makes Palmar scum. Show nested quote +On September 27 2013 23:25 Oatsmaster wrote:On September 27 2013 23:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't know if Palmar is scum. What he says makes a lot of sense. I am probably going to sheep him on D1 in case i feel like he is really trying to lynch scum (regardless of his alignment).
Atm i wanna lynch WoS. ##Vote: WaveofShadow The only thing i have found out that's really unlike to come from a townie is him shitting on town before the game hasn't even started fully. Another thing is that he is overly emo and i think he is faking it. Why would scum WoS fake emo? Man you basically think Palmar is town FOR NOW. You couldve said that earlier. Show nested quote +On September 27 2013 23:44 Oatsmaster wrote: Isnt it nice how you are calling me and VE town for posting in a not scum manner and Palmar not town for posting town manner. Show nested quote +On September 28 2013 18:05 Oatsmaster wrote: oh shit, I realised its Pandain not Palmar who posted the meta case on yamato
Hiro pro and everyone calling VE scummy, why? OK PALMAR IS PROBABLY town.
My bad. Show nested quote +On September 28 2013 19:58 Oatsmaster wrote: So Yamato, horrible town include palmar and VE and BH.
I see.
Rayn, how does point 3 make WoS mafia? All I see is that it makes him forgetful. lol dat distance Show nested quote +On September 29 2013 02:49 Oatsmaster wrote: What the fuck is going on. Why are people voting for Palmar, why hasnt SnB voted for anyone, why is Chairman Ray being noob mean that hes town? Show nested quote +On September 29 2013 03:02 Oatsmaster wrote: fuck man rayn, you have to explain Palmar being scum more than you dont like his read on WoS. Show nested quote +On October 01 2013 23:23 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 01 2013 23:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 01 2013 23:07 Oatsmaster wrote: So rayn, palmar's scum and town meta are the same? No they are not. It's the fact that in this game scum can also genuinely scumhunt. He is scumhunting to some extent, but not up to his normal town play. But you called me and VE town because we are playing to our town meta. I dont get all this nonsense about Palmar being totally townie but not town. Show nested quote +On October 03 2013 14:14 Oatsmaster wrote: Fuck time to look townie and do retarded shit.
GUYS LYNCH PALMAR. ##vote Palmar I could basically vote for anyone at this point other than Koshi/Pandain/solstice/WoS
unvotes... votes ft... later... Show nested quote +On October 04 2013 14:38 Oatsmaster wrote: Palmar is totally town though. Lol you are funny Pandain.
First quote, I decided that my feelings were wrong and that Yamato was scum.
2nd and 3rd quote make 0 sense if you are calling me mafia for it.
Explain why you think that the 2nd and 3rd quotes are scummy Please Pandain.
Show nested quote +On October 04 2013 14:49 Oatsmaster wrote: I think Vayne is playing stupid enough to be town, same with Palmar.
Palmar wanting to piss off rayn seems to be a townie thing to do. Also he's done nothing this game to push lynches. 10 pages of filter that's done nothing. He's had suspicion on me the entire game but not tried to get me lynched or even cared that I was in this game. Lynch Oats on the morrow.
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Chairman, why am I town? Do you think my attacks on you are legitimate? You think I'm town despite some of the folks thinking I'm mafia?
What do you make of the above post? The cheesecake post.
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On October 06 2013 01:54 VayneAuthority wrote: if anything im going to be pressure voting CR tomorrow. fuck this lurking shit when i dont know anything about the guy
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On October 06 2013 01:14 VayneAuthority wrote: and wave is actually doing shit so I feel pretty good where im at
oats and pandain/s0lstice/austin hu3hu3 On October 06 2013 01:54 VayneAuthority wrote: if anything im going to be pressure voting CR tomorrow. fuck this lurking shit when i dont know anything about the guy CR wasn't even in your scumteams. Then you say you're going to pressure vote him. On D4. When you have scum suspects.
Then oats is confirmed town when D4 starts. So now you KNOW your scumreads are wrong, you need MORE scum, a guy you thought was townie before IS scum, and what do you do?
You vote pandain.
You don't actually care about voting CR. Or pressuring him. You don't pressure him, you don't maybe slot him into the place where oats was, you just go with pandain. Cuz he's maybe mislynchable.
And this, in the face of people hopping on Oats yesterday:On October 06 2013 07:34 VayneAuthority wrote: if it isn't obvious I am the mislynch of choice as I predicted yesterday. which is why people started gravitating towards me yesterday. Anyone that votes for me is essentially claiming scum. Is sillypants.
IF by some miracle you're town: (1) Oats was clearly being set up as the mislynch of choice (2) LOOK AT THE VOTES. It's 2 for CR, 2 for Pandain, 1 for you. Do tell, how does that make you the "obvious mislynch for today"?
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On October 06 2013 07:36 Chairman Ray wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2013 07:14 austinmcc wrote: Chairman, why am I town? Do you think my attacks on you are legitimate? You think I'm town despite some of the folks thinking I'm mafia?
What do you make of the above post? The cheesecake post. I think you are town because of the way you entered the game. A town can have the mindset to finding one particular scum and getting that scum lynched, taking it one day at a time, or a town can have the mindset of looking at the entire game in general and trying to decipher where everyone stands. A mafia can have the mindset of trying to push scum status onto one town and getting him mislynched, or a mafia can have the mindset to trying to make a fellow mafia look town, or even both. I think your playstyle fits best with the town that's looking at the entire game. You bring up a lot of reads onto people who are not currently under attack and a lot of it is pretty legitimate, even on me. This tells me that you are probably town. Just to address some of the criticisms on my activity, when I signed up for this mafia I thought I would have a lot more time, but then some irl commitments came up, and I'm trying to squeeze in sessions. I don't like to casually post a lot of one liners because whenever I come check the mafia thread, and there's like 8 new pages, I get a headache. I think it's best for town if they are not fishing in a sea of red herrings. As for the CC post, it gives me some reads on both CC and Oats. I think that even though Oats super defended Palmer, Palmer's team showed they are capable of anything since his show with SnB was really convincing that they were not both scum together. Looking for possible alliances isn't that effective against the Bangers. So I disagree with CC on that one. CC posting that however doesn't really indicate his alignment to me since that's a legitimate thing for both scum and town to do. Right now I'm giving him a slight town read just because I think solstice is mafia. Question, have we absolutely determined if Oats is town based on the cop shot? If not, I might take a look at him. oats is 100% town based on koshi's shot. He's saying it got refunded, and there's no way for that to happen with a shot on scum as far as we know.
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Are players notified if bag of weeded/roleblocked?
If not, is a bullet consumed when the shooter is roleblocked?
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On October 06 2013 07:43 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2013 07:41 austinmcc wrote:On October 06 2013 01:14 VayneAuthority wrote: and wave is actually doing shit so I feel pretty good where im at
oats and pandain/s0lstice/austin hu3hu3 On October 06 2013 01:54 VayneAuthority wrote: if anything im going to be pressure voting CR tomorrow. fuck this lurking shit when i dont know anything about the guy CR wasn't even in your scumteams. Then you say you're going to pressure vote him. On D4. When you have scum suspects. Then oats is confirmed town when D4 starts. So now you KNOW your scumreads are wrong, you need MORE scum, a guy you thought was townie before IS scum, and what do you do? You vote pandain. You don't actually care about voting CR. Or pressuring him. You don't pressure him, you don't maybe slot him into the place where oats was, you just go with pandain. Cuz he's maybe mislynchable. And this, in the face of people hopping on Oats yesterday: On October 06 2013 07:34 VayneAuthority wrote: if it isn't obvious I am the mislynch of choice as I predicted yesterday. which is why people started gravitating towards me yesterday. Anyone that votes for me is essentially claiming scum. Is sillypants. IF by some miracle you're town: (1) Oats was clearly being set up as the mislynch of choice (2) LOOK AT THE VOTES. It's 2 for CR, 2 for Pandain, 1 for you. Do tell, how does that make you the "obvious mislynch for today"? you're bad if you are town again, reminds me of nuclear. You always try to make town lose for whatever reason How are you the mislynch of choice? You're not being lynched. You're in third place.
Do you DISAGREE that oats was being set up as a mislynch?
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VE, are you still around? I want to talk about not-VA if you are.
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WoS/solstice, I guess you guys too
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Koshi, do you know if you would have been notified if roleblocked? CR's post got me thinking, and the ONLY scenario I see in which oats isn't confirmed is if you were rbed and your shot was refunded due to rb and not due to shooting unprotected townie.
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On October 06 2013 08:20 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm here. Sup? How you feel about cc/VA/CR/(WoS or solstice)
And...wos or solstice? Any major thoughts?
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On October 06 2013 08:33 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2013 08:27 austinmcc wrote:On October 06 2013 08:20 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm here. Sup? How you feel about cc/VA/CR/(WoS or solstice) And...wos or solstice? Any major thoughts? This post makes me wonder. Show nested quote +On October 06 2013 07:12 Chairman Ray wrote: The most productive action today would be to try to lynch the remaining banger so we reduce KP. I still think that VA is that person, and I will most likely be pushing to lynch him today.
Out of the surviving players, we still have: Koshi VisceraEyes Mr. Cheesecake Oatsmaster raynpelikoneet Chairman Ray WaveofShadow VayneAuthority austinmcc Pandain s0lstice
With Koshi, rayn, VE, and Oats confirmed town, that leaves myself, CC, WoS, austin, Pandain, and solstice to be in the other mafia. I know I'm town, and I think that WoS and austin are town, so that leaves CC, Pandain and solstice.
Anyways, I think that solstice strikes to be the most scum to me out of the bunch. His filter is mostly him questioning other people for reads and just saying certain people are a bit scummy or suspicious. He hasn't done any in depth reads or pushed strongly on anyone. This is something I find particularly scummy just because it makes you look town without helping town a whole lot. He was onto me at some point, but defended me at the end. I appreciate it, but I still can't take it as a bribe, because it's still fits within mafia agenda.
I think that the best strategy for the second scum team to do right now is get a lot of town influence so they can have a mislynch the next day. Today we're obviously just lynching the last banger. Tomorrow we'll be looking for the second scumteam. With thee votepower on their side, it's really easy to get a mislynch. Solstice seems to be slowly pushing onto CC and austin, and I want to bring this up now before it happens in case one or both are town. If CC is town, then maybe I'm wrong on my WoS or austin read and one of them is actually mafia. It definitely makes sense for mafia to defend me and push for stronger targets, because tbh I don't think I'm a threat to mafia, but both CC and austin are, and a mislynch on them could be gamechanging. I think I'm going to be dissolving my trust on anyone except for the confirmed townies because the dominant strategy right now for mafia is to just gain influence. If a single townie is influences, then we might lose this. I don't wanna be that towny that votes wrong.
So my recommendation is to lynch VA today, and then solstice tomorrow.
##Vote: VayneAuthority Like - there aren't a WHOLE lot of options, but you think bussing is the option he'd be choosing right now? I didn't want to jump on that "other mafia" bit, although...it's not wonderful.
I think it's an odd first assumption (although a good strategy since they're combating so many confirmed towns at this point). (Hear that mafia, bus. Bus hard. Do it).
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Thing is, after this whole bit today I honestly believe VA is super mafia.
Which means CR in the last banger slot, not WoS, and probably WoS town/solstice mafia.
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(Because while I think bussing is a good idea right now I don't think CR is talking about bussing while ACTUALLY bussing teammates VA, and I don't like VA for MCB).
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