EPTTL Mafia Ban List 2.0 - Page 84
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Message GMarshal if you request a ban please ^_^ Also when the game you're sitting out is over! ~GMarshal | ||
Fecalfeast
Canada11355 Posts
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scott31337
United States2979 Posts
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Blazinghand
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Coagulation
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Blazinghand
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On September 30 2014 03:35 Coagulation wrote: omgus is where shitposting mafia players get deported when they are beyond any hope of reform. kind of like Australia was to the Brits back in the day. alakaslam is our prime minister. "I am honored to accept this title; I shall promise to give you Hijole, for a significant Chupazi." -Slam 2008 "Notslamagain 2012" -bumper sticker | ||
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Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
On September 30 2014 02:56 Blazinghand wrote: Probably the obvious solution would be for there to be no guaranteed pairings. IE it's possible mafia is paired with mafia, or all mafia are paired with a townie, etc. That way if you lynch a mafia, it's not the right move to autolynch his partner since all partnerships are RNGed. You could also make the 3p more anti-town by giving it an SK-style KP (defeats all protection, forced to use it every night) and a traditional SK style wincon that would make the game more anti-swing (contrast Survivor, which makes the game more pro-swing). That being said, I still don't see any cause for a ban or violation of rules. The serious problems (forced mafia-mafia mason pairing, the wincons of the 3p) with this setup were all open and available. When you /ined, you knew that there would be a 3p which had a 33% chance of being pro-town and a 67% chance of being pro-swing, and that mafia would be in the bad position of having a guaranteed mason pair of mafia-mafia. Looks like HaruRH was hosting his first game or whatever and made some mistakes, but in terms of balance, everything that was unbalanced about this game was in the OP before the game started. Even if there were like, no blue roles at all, or just a Cop, or something, that wouldn't solve the balance problems. That's certainly no good, but it also means that everyone who /inned knew what they were getting into. You could argue that the implications of the setup are non-obvious to someone trying to analyze it without having the setup get played out by real players, so you couldn't have known it would be so bad; but HaruRH would probably respond by saying that the same is true for him. The OP stated that 3p won when the game was over. A lot of people, myself included, assumed that meant that that player could only win if he was the last player alive. The balance was simply awful. Which is forgivable in a first time host if that is the only mistake he makes. The problem was compounded by hosting decisions that were so out of left field that I was about to rage quit the game. The hosts shortened a day. The hosts joked about someone's flip before it happened. The hosts made vote counts which confirmed someone as scum. The hosts were not clear when writing the OP about power roles or their interactions. It took ~72 hours to get a response to my PM asking if we could use irc with our partners (which we could. Making the game even more town favoured). And the hosts missed a deadline entirely. That game was more poorly balanced than a MS newbie game and more poorly hosted than anything be ever seen. While I have no desire to see bans for these players I do believe that this game should stand as a testament to how necessary the balance team is and how important it is for hosts to actively work to have the least impact possible on their game. | ||
GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
On September 29 2014 23:23 DarthPunk wrote: Requesting a 1 game host ban for: HaruH The_Templar Glowingbear For hosting a pretty sloppy game of mafia, It was unbalanced, a day was shortened for no reason, Inappropriate host posts, Deadlines missed entirely, roles and mechanics in OP unclear etc. Testomonials: I would also like to request a 3 game ban of the balance team. Either they did not read the setup or failed to comprehend how truly imbalanced it was. Both offenses are clearly playing against their win condition and should be dealt with severely. Hosting stuff should go in the active game thread or be PMed to foolishness. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25559 Posts
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HaruRH
Singapore2780 Posts
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
Hosts giving away scumteams. Hosts making mistakes sending the roles. Hosts quickening deadlines 15 minutes, 30 minutes before deadline. This one is pretty specific but happened 3 times already give or take some minutes. Hosts inventing retarded game set ups. Hosts making imbalanced set-ups. aka +75% for a team to win from the start. rng on roles somewhat counted in. Hosts not enforcing their own rules. Start temp banning these people. And put people on balance that actually care and have a brain. If you want an example for a game I can give you one for any example. I can also do combined ones. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
1) Create hosting rules. 2) Ban bad hosts. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
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geript
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On September 30 2014 05:58 Blazinghand wrote: moved to correct thread On September 30 2014 07:15 HaruRH wrote: Moved to correct thread. On September 30 2014 07:32 Koshi wrote: Hosts forgetting to do nightactions. Hosts giving away scumteams. Hosts making mistakes sending the roles. Hosts quickening deadlines 15 minutes, 30 minutes before deadline. This one is pretty specific but happened 3 times already give or take some minutes. Hosts inventing retarded game set ups. Hosts making imbalanced set-ups. aka +75% for a team to win from the start. rng on roles somewhat counted in. Hosts not enforcing their own rules. Start temp banning these people. And put people on balance that actually care and have a brain. If you want an example for a game I can give you one for any example. I can also do combined ones. ^^ Not moved to correct thread. SUP KOSHI | ||
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Koshi
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On September 30 2014 08:13 Koshi wrote: Hosts not reading games. And why should he? Just read the vote thread Nah but seriously I only ever skim anything since I am on mobile. Go to Smashboards Koshi they are very uptight in general and the host just checks out Midgame every once in a while Or OMGUS where I blatantly stated in the OP that it was a bastard game yet nobody won Or hang here where there is always someone unhappy with what is happening causing our whole structure to change until folks just up and... ...disappear Only to return in short order. Idunno | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
Yes the game was pretty much auto-win for the town for anyone with any patience and time to use for the game. That has nothing to do with any host "fuck-ups". You should have said so before the game in case you do not like it. Got nothing to say about other stuff regarding the hosts / game but just do not flame the setup you KNEW and did nothing about it (and apparently still played lol). | ||
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Koshi
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