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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
September 23 2014 05:41 GMT
#1621
On September 23 2014 14:06 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2014 13:58 Promethelax wrote:
On September 23 2014 11:28 batsnacks wrote:
On September 23 2014 11:24 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 23 2014 11:16 batsnacks wrote:
On September 23 2014 11:09 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 23 2014 10:57 batsnacks wrote:
On September 23 2014 10:50 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 23 2014 10:47 Hopeless1der wrote:
On September 23 2014 10:43 DarthPunk wrote:
[quote]

HAHAHAHA you can't lynch me bro.

The point is blazinghand is not just going to mod-kill the out-liars like marv and rayn which is the correct course of action, he wants to be stricter which completely marginalizes certain play styles including mine.

As for the shit fight with marv, well marv get's like that when you call him scum. I was warned and toned down after that warning (holy crap the system worked !??!?!!?)

That was also completely strategic. I didn't want marv to be productive, i didn't want to get into lengthy discussions with marv, I wanted to runi the towns atmosphere. Start a shit fight (by calling marv scum) and then refuse to interact with him for the rest of the game. Well that seems to fit those objectives perfectly.

Also I got town read for it.


To me the difference lies between "Look at this retarded post" and "look at this retard". IF you can maintain that distinction, you shouldnt be getting modkilled for flaming.


What about "no one can be this retarded as town. he is scum or bad." ?


"Retard" isn't pc anymore. I could get fired for saying "retard" no matter what the context is. It's sort of like how saying "negro" is wrong now but was socially acceptable in America prior to the 60s. What you should be saying is "no one can be this developmentally disabled as town. he is scum or bad."


This is not a workplace. It is a forum on the internet where we play a game, the whole point of which is to argue with each-other and kill each-other through popular vote.


Do you really need to call people *racial expletive* or *expletive referring to mental handicap* to play a game?

Not a rhetorical question btw it would be good info to have.


No, But i want the option to call someone acting retarded, retarded if it fits my agenda within the game. Saying something racial is unnecessary as it has nothing to do with the game. Questioning or discrediting someones metal fortitude has plenty to do with the game however.


Sorry dude, you're not getting it and I don't know how to explain it to you without being unspeakably vulgar.


You and I clearly disagree about what constitutes vulgarity. Calling people retards in mafia is absolutely acceptable. The entire point of the game is to advance your own agenda at all costs which often necessitates discrediting someone else. Insults having to do with intelligence are, therefore, integral to playing this game.


Spot on.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-23 06:01:17
September 23 2014 05:57 GMT
#1622
On September 23 2014 14:41 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2014 14:06 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 23 2014 13:58 Promethelax wrote:
On September 23 2014 11:28 batsnacks wrote:
On September 23 2014 11:24 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 23 2014 11:16 batsnacks wrote:
On September 23 2014 11:09 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 23 2014 10:57 batsnacks wrote:
On September 23 2014 10:50 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 23 2014 10:47 Hopeless1der wrote:
[quote]

To me the difference lies between "Look at this retarded post" and "look at this retard". IF you can maintain that distinction, you shouldnt be getting modkilled for flaming.


What about "no one can be this retarded as town. he is scum or bad." ?


"Retard" isn't pc anymore. I could get fired for saying "retard" no matter what the context is. It's sort of like how saying "negro" is wrong now but was socially acceptable in America prior to the 60s. What you should be saying is "no one can be this developmentally disabled as town. he is scum or bad."


This is not a workplace. It is a forum on the internet where we play a game, the whole point of which is to argue with each-other and kill each-other through popular vote.


Do you really need to call people *racial expletive* or *expletive referring to mental handicap* to play a game?

Not a rhetorical question btw it would be good info to have.


No, But i want the option to call someone acting retarded, retarded if it fits my agenda within the game. Saying something racial is unnecessary as it has nothing to do with the game. Questioning or discrediting someones metal fortitude has plenty to do with the game however.


Sorry dude, you're not getting it and I don't know how to explain it to you without being unspeakably vulgar.


You and I clearly disagree about what constitutes vulgarity. Calling people retards in mafia is absolutely acceptable. The entire point of the game is to advance your own agenda at all costs which often necessitates discrediting someone else. Insults having to do with intelligence are, therefore, integral to playing this game.


Spot on.

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Google image "spot on"

Find surprising number of dissonances. Children's book cover followed by DICK PIC followed by dog shampoo followed by SEXY CHICK WITH BIRTHMARKS followed by the Simpsons followed by DICK PIC
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 23 2014 13:45 GMT
#1623
On September 23 2014 14:57 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2014 14:41 Hapahauli wrote:
On September 23 2014 14:06 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 23 2014 13:58 Promethelax wrote:
On September 23 2014 11:28 batsnacks wrote:
On September 23 2014 11:24 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 23 2014 11:16 batsnacks wrote:
On September 23 2014 11:09 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 23 2014 10:57 batsnacks wrote:
On September 23 2014 10:50 DarthPunk wrote:
[quote]

What about "no one can be this retarded as town. he is scum or bad." ?


"Retard" isn't pc anymore. I could get fired for saying "retard" no matter what the context is. It's sort of like how saying "negro" is wrong now but was socially acceptable in America prior to the 60s. What you should be saying is "no one can be this developmentally disabled as town. he is scum or bad."


This is not a workplace. It is a forum on the internet where we play a game, the whole point of which is to argue with each-other and kill each-other through popular vote.


Do you really need to call people *racial expletive* or *expletive referring to mental handicap* to play a game?

Not a rhetorical question btw it would be good info to have.


No, But i want the option to call someone acting retarded, retarded if it fits my agenda within the game. Saying something racial is unnecessary as it has nothing to do with the game. Questioning or discrediting someones metal fortitude has plenty to do with the game however.


Sorry dude, you're not getting it and I don't know how to explain it to you without being unspeakably vulgar.


You and I clearly disagree about what constitutes vulgarity. Calling people retards in mafia is absolutely acceptable. The entire point of the game is to advance your own agenda at all costs which often necessitates discrediting someone else. Insults having to do with intelligence are, therefore, integral to playing this game.


Spot on.

[image loading]

Google image "spot on"

Find surprising number of dissonances. Children's book cover followed by DICK PIC followed by dog shampoo followed by SEXY CHICK WITH BIRTHMARKS followed by the Simpsons followed by DICK PIC


Slam, when is your ban over? There has been a serious lack of Slam in my games recently?
Computer says mafia
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-23 14:50:32
September 23 2014 14:50 GMT
#1624
Hypothetically, say someone messages someone after they die (before reveal) and you make you think they are one role when they're not that role, causing you to change how you're thinking about the game and then you lynch someone different that same day because you're now basing it on an invalid assumption based off of OGI. What would be the punishment for that?

Edit: for the person who messaged you
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 23 2014 15:02 GMT
#1625
As long as there's no game revealing things then it's fine?
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-23 15:12:42
September 23 2014 15:12 GMT
#1626
Well say if your talking about dota its fine you just dont talk about the mafia game. If your making a jump that your assuming the other player wouldn't message you at all if he was say mafia in your example i think that just your prerogative and probably bad logic.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
September 23 2014 16:03 GMT
#1627
On September 23 2014 22:45 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2014 14:57 Alakaslam wrote:
On September 23 2014 14:41 Hapahauli wrote:
On September 23 2014 14:06 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 23 2014 13:58 Promethelax wrote:
On September 23 2014 11:28 batsnacks wrote:
On September 23 2014 11:24 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 23 2014 11:16 batsnacks wrote:
On September 23 2014 11:09 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 23 2014 10:57 batsnacks wrote:
[quote]

"Retard" isn't pc anymore. I could get fired for saying "retard" no matter what the context is. It's sort of like how saying "negro" is wrong now but was socially acceptable in America prior to the 60s. What you should be saying is "no one can be this developmentally disabled as town. he is scum or bad."


This is not a workplace. It is a forum on the internet where we play a game, the whole point of which is to argue with each-other and kill each-other through popular vote.


Do you really need to call people *racial expletive* or *expletive referring to mental handicap* to play a game?

Not a rhetorical question btw it would be good info to have.


No, But i want the option to call someone acting retarded, retarded if it fits my agenda within the game. Saying something racial is unnecessary as it has nothing to do with the game. Questioning or discrediting someones metal fortitude has plenty to do with the game however.


Sorry dude, you're not getting it and I don't know how to explain it to you without being unspeakably vulgar.


You and I clearly disagree about what constitutes vulgarity. Calling people retards in mafia is absolutely acceptable. The entire point of the game is to advance your own agenda at all costs which often necessitates discrediting someone else. Insults having to do with intelligence are, therefore, integral to playing this game.


Spot on.

[image loading]

Google image "spot on"

Find surprising number of dissonances. Children's book cover followed by DICK PIC followed by dog shampoo followed by SEXY CHICK WITH BIRTHMARKS followed by the Simpsons followed by DICK PIC


Slam, when is your ban over? There has been a serious lack of Slam in my games recently?

With the finish of devil riddle
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
September 23 2014 16:46 GMT
#1628
On September 24 2014 00:12 iamperfection wrote:
Well say if your talking about dota its fine you just dont talk about the mafia game. If your making a jump that your assuming the other player wouldn't message you at all if he was say mafia in your example i think that just your prerogative and probably bad logic.

What about something like "man, that modkill was bullshit" regarding said player
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
September 23 2014 16:48 GMT
#1629
I don't think the above constitutes any kind of relevant game-changing information. I also don't think it implies any sort of role - if that's all that was said, anyway.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
September 23 2014 17:03 GMT
#1630
That's something that should be avoided though. It's talking about an ongoing game but I wouldn't make a big deal about it.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
September 23 2014 20:12 GMT
#1631
On September 24 2014 01:46 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2014 00:12 iamperfection wrote:
Well say if your talking about dota its fine you just dont talk about the mafia game. If your making a jump that your assuming the other player wouldn't message you at all if he was say mafia in your example i think that just your prerogative and probably bad logic.

What about something like "man, that modkill was bullshit" regarding said player


Eh that's toe-ing the line. In general you just don't talk about anything game-relevant with another player.

Even something like modkills can lead to some questionable inferences (i.e. if this player flips town, would a mafia player really be this upset about the modkill?).
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-24 13:00:25
September 23 2014 20:30 GMT
#1632
On September 23 2014 10:43 DarthPunk wrote:
The point is blazinghand is not just going to mod-kill the out-liars like marv and rayn which is the correct course of action, he wants to be stricter which completely marginalizes certain play styles including mine.


Just because I was reading back a bit. I don't think you need to be worried about this. You have a fairly similar style of play to me and I seem to stay out of trouble for the most part. The trick is just to choose your insults wisely. You're in no way some over the top flamer, and you're smart enough to not need that shit anyway.
Computer says mafia
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
September 24 2014 22:06 GMT
#1633
On September 24 2014 05:30 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2014 10:43 DarthPunk wrote:
The point is blazinghand is not just going to mod-kill the out-liars like marv and rayn which is the correct course of action, he wants to be stricter which completely marginalizes certain play styles including mine.


Just because I was reading back a bit. I don't think you need to be worried about this. You have a fairly similar style of play to me and I seem to stay out of trouble for the most part. The trick is just to choose your insults wisely. You're in no way some over the top flamer, and you're smart enough to not need that shit anyway.

What are you trying to say Palmar?
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
September 25 2014 04:28 GMT
#1634
On September 25 2014 07:06 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2014 05:30 Palmar wrote:
On September 23 2014 10:43 DarthPunk wrote:
The point is blazinghand is not just going to mod-kill the out-liars like marv and rayn which is the correct course of action, he wants to be stricter which completely marginalizes certain play styles including mine.


Just because I was reading back a bit. I don't think you need to be worried about this. You have a fairly similar style of play to me and I seem to stay out of trouble for the most part. The trick is just to choose your insults wisely. You're in no way some over the top flamer, and you're smart enough to not need that shit anyway.

What are you trying to say Palmar?

CHUPAZI CON HIJOLE
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
September 25 2014 21:26 GMT
#1635
On September 23 2014 07:20 Blazinghand wrote:
TL Mafia LXVIII has many modkills, but I will not be punishing those who got modkilled after I did the serious crackdown on behaviour and enforced normal TL Forum standards. I will address what I believe to be the troublemakers from the game; after the flame war started, people got mad and started flaming back, and I do not blame them for this.

1 game ban for Marv for requested he be modkilled without a reason.
1 game ban for Rayn for flaming and forcing me to modkill/replace him.
Warning for Koshi for repeatedly posting in question text asking me to modkill people. This is not appropriate, and he should have just PMed me.
Warning for Robik for flaming and making the situation worse early on. This is not a ban, because Robik shaped up and did a good job of not stepping out of line the rest of the game. He did not give me cause to modkill him.

If people believe these punishments are too light, or not strong enough on the people who got modkilled later, bear in mind that the goal here isn't to prevent Rayn or Marv, who are generally excellent players, from ever playing. And most of the people I had to modkill or deal with were just reacting to the awful game thread. Light but just punishments for the sources of the awfulness.

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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 26 2014 14:42 GMT
#1636
/sitting out Zesty Italian Dressing Micro Mafia

WaveofShadow you shouldn't have a single thing to say about my behaviour because of how you treat me in the games we are together. So please just shut up. Just because you don't use cursewords doesn't make it any "better".
table for two on a tv tray
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-26 18:33:47
September 26 2014 18:28 GMT
#1637
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-26 18:51:29
September 26 2014 18:49 GMT
#1638
lol

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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 26 2014 22:25 GMT
#1639
go wos. go on. <3
just... go on.

yes i am an an ass but fuck you you shit.
you are an ass too.

User was temp banned for this post.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 26 2014 22:26 GMT
#1640
coag <3
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