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batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
September 23 2014 01:57 GMT
#1601
On September 23 2014 10:50 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2014 10:47 Hopeless1der wrote:
On September 23 2014 10:43 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 23 2014 10:35 WaveofShadow wrote:
On September 23 2014 10:33 geript wrote:
Can we just pretend for a second what Darth Punk would look like in a bikini? I mean seriously, why isn't Wave posting about this right now?

Must be scum

Also DP there is a difference between what you do and what Rayn does. Sometimes the difference isn't huge, but it's there. I do seem to recall a game where you were scum and you had a shitfight with marv that made the game more or less unplayable for a while---how about this?
You can do it as often as you want, and I will policy lynch you for it.


HAHAHAHA you can't lynch me bro.

The point is blazinghand is not just going to mod-kill the out-liars like marv and rayn which is the correct course of action, he wants to be stricter which completely marginalizes certain play styles including mine.

As for the shit fight with marv, well marv get's like that when you call him scum. I was warned and toned down after that warning (holy crap the system worked !??!?!!?)

That was also completely strategic. I didn't want marv to be productive, i didn't want to get into lengthy discussions with marv, I wanted to runi the towns atmosphere. Start a shit fight (by calling marv scum) and then refuse to interact with him for the rest of the game. Well that seems to fit those objectives perfectly.

Also I got town read for it.


To me the difference lies between "Look at this retarded post" and "look at this retard". IF you can maintain that distinction, you shouldnt be getting modkilled for flaming.


What about "no one can be this retarded as town. he is scum or bad." ?


"Retard" isn't pc anymore. I could get fired for saying "retard" no matter what the context is. It's sort of like how saying "negro" is wrong now but was socially acceptable in America prior to the 60s. What you should be saying is "no one can be this developmentally disabled as town. he is scum or bad."
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
September 23 2014 02:03 GMT
#1602
Calling someone bad implies town.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
September 23 2014 02:05 GMT
#1603
Calling someone bad implies the person doing the calling thinks they are good. Which implies bad.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
September 23 2014 02:08 GMT
#1604
On September 23 2014 11:03 Hopeless1der wrote:
Calling someone bad implies town.


No. It just discredits them. Which is the whole point of saying it if discrediting them fits your agenda.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
September 23 2014 02:09 GMT
#1605
On September 23 2014 10:57 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2014 10:50 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 23 2014 10:47 Hopeless1der wrote:
On September 23 2014 10:43 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 23 2014 10:35 WaveofShadow wrote:
On September 23 2014 10:33 geript wrote:
Can we just pretend for a second what Darth Punk would look like in a bikini? I mean seriously, why isn't Wave posting about this right now?

Must be scum

Also DP there is a difference between what you do and what Rayn does. Sometimes the difference isn't huge, but it's there. I do seem to recall a game where you were scum and you had a shitfight with marv that made the game more or less unplayable for a while---how about this?
You can do it as often as you want, and I will policy lynch you for it.


HAHAHAHA you can't lynch me bro.

The point is blazinghand is not just going to mod-kill the out-liars like marv and rayn which is the correct course of action, he wants to be stricter which completely marginalizes certain play styles including mine.

As for the shit fight with marv, well marv get's like that when you call him scum. I was warned and toned down after that warning (holy crap the system worked !??!?!!?)

That was also completely strategic. I didn't want marv to be productive, i didn't want to get into lengthy discussions with marv, I wanted to runi the towns atmosphere. Start a shit fight (by calling marv scum) and then refuse to interact with him for the rest of the game. Well that seems to fit those objectives perfectly.

Also I got town read for it.


To me the difference lies between "Look at this retarded post" and "look at this retard". IF you can maintain that distinction, you shouldnt be getting modkilled for flaming.


What about "no one can be this retarded as town. he is scum or bad." ?


"Retard" isn't pc anymore. I could get fired for saying "retard" no matter what the context is. It's sort of like how saying "negro" is wrong now but was socially acceptable in America prior to the 60s. What you should be saying is "no one can be this developmentally disabled as town. he is scum or bad."


This is not a workplace. It is a forum on the internet where we play a game, the whole point of which is to argue with each-other and kill each-other through popular vote.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-23 02:18:42
September 23 2014 02:16 GMT
#1606
On September 23 2014 11:09 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2014 10:57 batsnacks wrote:
On September 23 2014 10:50 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 23 2014 10:47 Hopeless1der wrote:
On September 23 2014 10:43 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 23 2014 10:35 WaveofShadow wrote:
On September 23 2014 10:33 geript wrote:
Can we just pretend for a second what Darth Punk would look like in a bikini? I mean seriously, why isn't Wave posting about this right now?

Must be scum

Also DP there is a difference between what you do and what Rayn does. Sometimes the difference isn't huge, but it's there. I do seem to recall a game where you were scum and you had a shitfight with marv that made the game more or less unplayable for a while---how about this?
You can do it as often as you want, and I will policy lynch you for it.


HAHAHAHA you can't lynch me bro.

The point is blazinghand is not just going to mod-kill the out-liars like marv and rayn which is the correct course of action, he wants to be stricter which completely marginalizes certain play styles including mine.

As for the shit fight with marv, well marv get's like that when you call him scum. I was warned and toned down after that warning (holy crap the system worked !??!?!!?)

That was also completely strategic. I didn't want marv to be productive, i didn't want to get into lengthy discussions with marv, I wanted to runi the towns atmosphere. Start a shit fight (by calling marv scum) and then refuse to interact with him for the rest of the game. Well that seems to fit those objectives perfectly.

Also I got town read for it.


To me the difference lies between "Look at this retarded post" and "look at this retard". IF you can maintain that distinction, you shouldnt be getting modkilled for flaming.


What about "no one can be this retarded as town. he is scum or bad." ?


"Retard" isn't pc anymore. I could get fired for saying "retard" no matter what the context is. It's sort of like how saying "negro" is wrong now but was socially acceptable in America prior to the 60s. What you should be saying is "no one can be this developmentally disabled as town. he is scum or bad."


This is not a workplace. It is a forum on the internet where we play a game, the whole point of which is to argue with each-other and kill each-other through popular vote.


Do you really need to call people *racial expletive* or *expletive referring to mental handicap* to play a game?

Not a rhetorical question btw it would be good info to have.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-23 02:24:46
September 23 2014 02:24 GMT
#1607
On September 23 2014 11:16 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2014 11:09 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 23 2014 10:57 batsnacks wrote:
On September 23 2014 10:50 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 23 2014 10:47 Hopeless1der wrote:
On September 23 2014 10:43 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 23 2014 10:35 WaveofShadow wrote:
On September 23 2014 10:33 geript wrote:
Can we just pretend for a second what Darth Punk would look like in a bikini? I mean seriously, why isn't Wave posting about this right now?

Must be scum

Also DP there is a difference between what you do and what Rayn does. Sometimes the difference isn't huge, but it's there. I do seem to recall a game where you were scum and you had a shitfight with marv that made the game more or less unplayable for a while---how about this?
You can do it as often as you want, and I will policy lynch you for it.


HAHAHAHA you can't lynch me bro.

The point is blazinghand is not just going to mod-kill the out-liars like marv and rayn which is the correct course of action, he wants to be stricter which completely marginalizes certain play styles including mine.

As for the shit fight with marv, well marv get's like that when you call him scum. I was warned and toned down after that warning (holy crap the system worked !??!?!!?)

That was also completely strategic. I didn't want marv to be productive, i didn't want to get into lengthy discussions with marv, I wanted to runi the towns atmosphere. Start a shit fight (by calling marv scum) and then refuse to interact with him for the rest of the game. Well that seems to fit those objectives perfectly.

Also I got town read for it.


To me the difference lies between "Look at this retarded post" and "look at this retard". IF you can maintain that distinction, you shouldnt be getting modkilled for flaming.


What about "no one can be this retarded as town. he is scum or bad." ?


"Retard" isn't pc anymore. I could get fired for saying "retard" no matter what the context is. It's sort of like how saying "negro" is wrong now but was socially acceptable in America prior to the 60s. What you should be saying is "no one can be this developmentally disabled as town. he is scum or bad."


This is not a workplace. It is a forum on the internet where we play a game, the whole point of which is to argue with each-other and kill each-other through popular vote.


Do you really need to call people *racial expletive* or *expletive referring to mental handicap* to play a game?

Not a rhetorical question btw it would be good info to have.


No, But i want the option to call someone acting retarded, retarded if it fits my agenda within the game. Saying something racial is unnecessary as it has nothing to do with the game. Questioning or discrediting someones mental fortitude has plenty to do with the game however.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
September 23 2014 02:28 GMT
#1608
On September 23 2014 11:24 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2014 11:16 batsnacks wrote:
On September 23 2014 11:09 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 23 2014 10:57 batsnacks wrote:
On September 23 2014 10:50 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 23 2014 10:47 Hopeless1der wrote:
On September 23 2014 10:43 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 23 2014 10:35 WaveofShadow wrote:
On September 23 2014 10:33 geript wrote:
Can we just pretend for a second what Darth Punk would look like in a bikini? I mean seriously, why isn't Wave posting about this right now?

Must be scum

Also DP there is a difference between what you do and what Rayn does. Sometimes the difference isn't huge, but it's there. I do seem to recall a game where you were scum and you had a shitfight with marv that made the game more or less unplayable for a while---how about this?
You can do it as often as you want, and I will policy lynch you for it.


HAHAHAHA you can't lynch me bro.

The point is blazinghand is not just going to mod-kill the out-liars like marv and rayn which is the correct course of action, he wants to be stricter which completely marginalizes certain play styles including mine.

As for the shit fight with marv, well marv get's like that when you call him scum. I was warned and toned down after that warning (holy crap the system worked !??!?!!?)

That was also completely strategic. I didn't want marv to be productive, i didn't want to get into lengthy discussions with marv, I wanted to runi the towns atmosphere. Start a shit fight (by calling marv scum) and then refuse to interact with him for the rest of the game. Well that seems to fit those objectives perfectly.

Also I got town read for it.


To me the difference lies between "Look at this retarded post" and "look at this retard". IF you can maintain that distinction, you shouldnt be getting modkilled for flaming.


What about "no one can be this retarded as town. he is scum or bad." ?


"Retard" isn't pc anymore. I could get fired for saying "retard" no matter what the context is. It's sort of like how saying "negro" is wrong now but was socially acceptable in America prior to the 60s. What you should be saying is "no one can be this developmentally disabled as town. he is scum or bad."


This is not a workplace. It is a forum on the internet where we play a game, the whole point of which is to argue with each-other and kill each-other through popular vote.


Do you really need to call people *racial expletive* or *expletive referring to mental handicap* to play a game?

Not a rhetorical question btw it would be good info to have.


No, But i want the option to call someone acting retarded, retarded if it fits my agenda within the game. Saying something racial is unnecessary as it has nothing to do with the game. Questioning or discrediting someones metal fortitude has plenty to do with the game however.


Sorry dude, you're not getting it and I don't know how to explain it to you without being unspeakably vulgar.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
September 23 2014 02:36 GMT
#1609
On September 23 2014 11:28 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2014 11:24 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 23 2014 11:16 batsnacks wrote:
On September 23 2014 11:09 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 23 2014 10:57 batsnacks wrote:
On September 23 2014 10:50 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 23 2014 10:47 Hopeless1der wrote:
On September 23 2014 10:43 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 23 2014 10:35 WaveofShadow wrote:
On September 23 2014 10:33 geript wrote:
Can we just pretend for a second what Darth Punk would look like in a bikini? I mean seriously, why isn't Wave posting about this right now?

Must be scum

Also DP there is a difference between what you do and what Rayn does. Sometimes the difference isn't huge, but it's there. I do seem to recall a game where you were scum and you had a shitfight with marv that made the game more or less unplayable for a while---how about this?
You can do it as often as you want, and I will policy lynch you for it.


HAHAHAHA you can't lynch me bro.

The point is blazinghand is not just going to mod-kill the out-liars like marv and rayn which is the correct course of action, he wants to be stricter which completely marginalizes certain play styles including mine.

As for the shit fight with marv, well marv get's like that when you call him scum. I was warned and toned down after that warning (holy crap the system worked !??!?!!?)

That was also completely strategic. I didn't want marv to be productive, i didn't want to get into lengthy discussions with marv, I wanted to runi the towns atmosphere. Start a shit fight (by calling marv scum) and then refuse to interact with him for the rest of the game. Well that seems to fit those objectives perfectly.

Also I got town read for it.


To me the difference lies between "Look at this retarded post" and "look at this retard". IF you can maintain that distinction, you shouldnt be getting modkilled for flaming.


What about "no one can be this retarded as town. he is scum or bad." ?


"Retard" isn't pc anymore. I could get fired for saying "retard" no matter what the context is. It's sort of like how saying "negro" is wrong now but was socially acceptable in America prior to the 60s. What you should be saying is "no one can be this developmentally disabled as town. he is scum or bad."


This is not a workplace. It is a forum on the internet where we play a game, the whole point of which is to argue with each-other and kill each-other through popular vote.


Do you really need to call people *racial expletive* or *expletive referring to mental handicap* to play a game?

Not a rhetorical question btw it would be good info to have.


No, But i want the option to call someone acting retarded, retarded if it fits my agenda within the game. Saying something racial is unnecessary as it has nothing to do with the game. Questioning or discrediting someones metal fortitude has plenty to do with the game however.


Sorry dude, you're not getting it and I don't know how to explain it to you without being unspeakably vulgar.


Or I get it and just don't agree with you.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-23 03:41:45
September 23 2014 03:41 GMT
#1610
Hijile
Hijole
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
September 23 2014 03:48 GMT
#1611
Darth find a new word stop being such a donkey right now
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
September 23 2014 03:53 GMT
#1612
On September 23 2014 12:48 StorrZerg wrote:
Darth find a new word stop being such a donkey right now


er. No.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
September 23 2014 03:55 GMT
#1613
I have no inclination whatsoever to have political correctness shoved down my throat.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-23 04:04:36
September 23 2014 04:04 GMT
#1614
I wonder what words we currently use will have a bad connotation in the future.

Maybe "pets" because in 15 years it will be illegal/socially unacceptable to own an animal and the correct term will be "Captive Animal"

Words are just words everyone calm down

EDIT: I apologize for helping shit-up the ban thread I will stop
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-23 04:09:22
September 23 2014 04:07 GMT
#1615
On September 23 2014 13:04 Fecalfeast wrote:
I wonder what words we currently use will have a bad connotation in the future.

Maybe "pets" because in 15 years it will be illegal/socially unacceptable to own an animal and the correct term will be "Captive Animal"

Words are just words everyone calm down

EDIT: I apologize for helping shit-up the ban thread I will stop


Helping shit up the ban list thread means you really belong here dude. :D

I also think your point is a good one.

Edit:

And my main point is this, Rayn and Marv were both in the wrong and both should get one game bans, but don't punish my style of play for other peoples bullshit, please and thank you.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-23 04:12:23
September 23 2014 04:11 GMT
#1616
AHA I knew I took that idea from something.

[image loading]


by "stop" I meant "continue" apparently

edit: source http://www.thepaincomics.com/weekly010905a.htm
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
September 23 2014 04:13 GMT
#1617
On September 23 2014 13:11 Fecalfeast wrote:
AHA I knew I took that idea from something.

[image loading]


by "stop" I meant "continue" apparently

edit: source http://www.thepaincomics.com/weekly010905a.htm


HAHA. SO good.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
September 23 2014 04:58 GMT
#1618
On September 23 2014 11:28 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2014 11:24 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 23 2014 11:16 batsnacks wrote:
On September 23 2014 11:09 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 23 2014 10:57 batsnacks wrote:
On September 23 2014 10:50 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 23 2014 10:47 Hopeless1der wrote:
On September 23 2014 10:43 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 23 2014 10:35 WaveofShadow wrote:
On September 23 2014 10:33 geript wrote:
Can we just pretend for a second what Darth Punk would look like in a bikini? I mean seriously, why isn't Wave posting about this right now?

Must be scum

Also DP there is a difference between what you do and what Rayn does. Sometimes the difference isn't huge, but it's there. I do seem to recall a game where you were scum and you had a shitfight with marv that made the game more or less unplayable for a while---how about this?
You can do it as often as you want, and I will policy lynch you for it.


HAHAHAHA you can't lynch me bro.

The point is blazinghand is not just going to mod-kill the out-liars like marv and rayn which is the correct course of action, he wants to be stricter which completely marginalizes certain play styles including mine.

As for the shit fight with marv, well marv get's like that when you call him scum. I was warned and toned down after that warning (holy crap the system worked !??!?!!?)

That was also completely strategic. I didn't want marv to be productive, i didn't want to get into lengthy discussions with marv, I wanted to runi the towns atmosphere. Start a shit fight (by calling marv scum) and then refuse to interact with him for the rest of the game. Well that seems to fit those objectives perfectly.

Also I got town read for it.


To me the difference lies between "Look at this retarded post" and "look at this retard". IF you can maintain that distinction, you shouldnt be getting modkilled for flaming.


What about "no one can be this retarded as town. he is scum or bad." ?


"Retard" isn't pc anymore. I could get fired for saying "retard" no matter what the context is. It's sort of like how saying "negro" is wrong now but was socially acceptable in America prior to the 60s. What you should be saying is "no one can be this developmentally disabled as town. he is scum or bad."


This is not a workplace. It is a forum on the internet where we play a game, the whole point of which is to argue with each-other and kill each-other through popular vote.


Do you really need to call people *racial expletive* or *expletive referring to mental handicap* to play a game?

Not a rhetorical question btw it would be good info to have.


No, But i want the option to call someone acting retarded, retarded if it fits my agenda within the game. Saying something racial is unnecessary as it has nothing to do with the game. Questioning or discrediting someones metal fortitude has plenty to do with the game however.


Sorry dude, you're not getting it and I don't know how to explain it to you without being unspeakably vulgar.


You and I clearly disagree about what constitutes vulgarity. Calling people retards in mafia is absolutely acceptable. The entire point of the game is to advance your own agenda at all costs which often necessitates discrediting someone else. Insults having to do with intelligence are, therefore, integral to playing this game.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-23 05:09:35
September 23 2014 05:06 GMT
#1619
On September 23 2014 13:11 Fecalfeast wrote:
AHA I knew I took that idea from something.

[image loading]


by "stop" I meant "continue" apparently

edit: source http://www.thepaincomics.com/weekly010905a.htm

This prophecy into my future!!

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WHY YOU TORTURE ME

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4S9uTEJVumc

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If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
September 23 2014 05:06 GMT
#1620
On September 23 2014 13:58 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2014 11:28 batsnacks wrote:
On September 23 2014 11:24 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 23 2014 11:16 batsnacks wrote:
On September 23 2014 11:09 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 23 2014 10:57 batsnacks wrote:
On September 23 2014 10:50 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 23 2014 10:47 Hopeless1der wrote:
On September 23 2014 10:43 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 23 2014 10:35 WaveofShadow wrote:
[quote]
Must be scum

Also DP there is a difference between what you do and what Rayn does. Sometimes the difference isn't huge, but it's there. I do seem to recall a game where you were scum and you had a shitfight with marv that made the game more or less unplayable for a while---how about this?
You can do it as often as you want, and I will policy lynch you for it.


HAHAHAHA you can't lynch me bro.

The point is blazinghand is not just going to mod-kill the out-liars like marv and rayn which is the correct course of action, he wants to be stricter which completely marginalizes certain play styles including mine.

As for the shit fight with marv, well marv get's like that when you call him scum. I was warned and toned down after that warning (holy crap the system worked !??!?!!?)

That was also completely strategic. I didn't want marv to be productive, i didn't want to get into lengthy discussions with marv, I wanted to runi the towns atmosphere. Start a shit fight (by calling marv scum) and then refuse to interact with him for the rest of the game. Well that seems to fit those objectives perfectly.

Also I got town read for it.


To me the difference lies between "Look at this retarded post" and "look at this retard". IF you can maintain that distinction, you shouldnt be getting modkilled for flaming.


What about "no one can be this retarded as town. he is scum or bad." ?


"Retard" isn't pc anymore. I could get fired for saying "retard" no matter what the context is. It's sort of like how saying "negro" is wrong now but was socially acceptable in America prior to the 60s. What you should be saying is "no one can be this developmentally disabled as town. he is scum or bad."


This is not a workplace. It is a forum on the internet where we play a game, the whole point of which is to argue with each-other and kill each-other through popular vote.


Do you really need to call people *racial expletive* or *expletive referring to mental handicap* to play a game?

Not a rhetorical question btw it would be good info to have.


No, But i want the option to call someone acting retarded, retarded if it fits my agenda within the game. Saying something racial is unnecessary as it has nothing to do with the game. Questioning or discrediting someones metal fortitude has plenty to do with the game however.


Sorry dude, you're not getting it and I don't know how to explain it to you without being unspeakably vulgar.


You and I clearly disagree about what constitutes vulgarity. Calling people retards in mafia is absolutely acceptable. The entire point of the game is to advance your own agenda at all costs which often necessitates discrediting someone else. Insults having to do with intelligence are, therefore, integral to playing this game.


Spot on.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
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