EPTTL Mafia Ban List 2.0 - Page 86
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Message GMarshal if you request a ban please ^_^ Also when the game you're sitting out is over! ~GMarshal | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25563 Posts
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LoneMeow
Finland1396 Posts
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geript
10024 Posts
I'd like to request a 1 game ban for ObviousOne. He didn't try at all and put his team in a bad spot. Here is his filter. He had like 3 posts in total and his response to being RNG'd was essentially to AFK. I could see this being downgraded to a warning if people find that more acceptable. edit: From fantasy football mini. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25563 Posts
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DarthPunk
Australia10859 Posts
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On October 17 2014 14:45 DarthPunk wrote: If you get modkilled and that directly loses the game for your team you should get at least a one game ban IMO. Kelsier was the mafia team. If anyone had the right to throw that game, it was him. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On October 17 2014 18:55 marvellosity wrote: no ban for OO imo. OO didn't really play. Didn't post once in mafia qt and afked 95% of D1. Found enough time to call us hitlers about an hour before the lynch and proceed to do nothing. Like why even bother to show up at that point? | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On October 17 2014 20:32 marvellosity wrote: yeah I read his filter. In the broadest sense of the rules, I think OO should get a 1-game ban because he made no effort to win (let alone play) the game. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On October 17 2014 21:59 Hopeless1der wrote: In the broadest sense of the rules, I think OO should get a 1-game ban because he made no effort to win (let alone play) the game. Then we could retroactively ban hundreds and hundreds of players, that we never have before. | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On October 17 2014 22:00 marvellosity wrote: Then we could retroactively ban hundreds and hundreds of players, that we never have before. I wouldnt say to retroactively ban anyone, those games are closed. This one is still under discussion. Failure to ban for something that SHOULD be banned for is not an excuse to let it slide the next time. Is that not the point of issuing bans? To improve behavior that we do not wish to tolerate in the future? | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
Actually I think I argued someone should be banned for that before. And talked to GMarsh about it. I'm not sure it's such a good idea anymore, except for when you do something like BH does, which is make clear he has arbitrary limits of how hard you must try. Edit: Like, isn't that what warnings are here for? If he does it again then it's possibly more serious etc. | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On October 17 2014 22:07 marvellosity wrote: It's a slippery slope about not playing to win. This one is borderline. Actually I think I argued someone should be banned for that before. And talked to GMarsh about it. I'm not sure it's such a good idea anymore, except for when you do something like BH does, which is make clear he has arbitrary limits of how hard you must try. Edit: Like, isn't that what warnings are here for? If he does it again then it's possibly more serious etc. A warning may be more appropriate. I'd rather argue towards the strongest "appropriate" response and let GM and/or the host determine how severe a punishment, if any, needs to be administered. | ||
GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
On October 17 2014 13:36 geript wrote: I would like to request a Warning for Kelsier SC. He played exceptionally well but didn't post on the final day and didn't vote on the final day. I'd like to request a 1 game ban for ObviousOne. He didn't try at all and put his team in a bad spot. Here is his filter. He had like 3 posts in total and his response to being RNG'd was essentially to AFK. I could see this being downgraded to a warning if people find that more acceptable. edit: From fantasy football mini. Well he didn't actually break any rules,and banning him would set a wrong precedent in future situations where people want to ban for "didn't try hard enough", so I'm going to go with a warning. What he did is kind of shitty though, so blergh. Approved other warning. | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
On October 03 2014 07:25 hzflank wrote: I am sitting out of FFL mafia. Can I please be removed from the list now that FFL has finished. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
Kelsier broke a rule and people want him warned. Logic. | ||
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Damdred
15669 Posts
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geript
10024 Posts
On October 18 2014 00:42 Koshi wrote: OO didn't break any rules and people want him banned. Kelsier broke a rule and people want him warned. Logic. I want to address this specifically. OO broke 3 rules (one of which is minor in my books). First, he voted for himself + Show Spoiler + Voting rules: 4. You may not vote for yourself, for anyone dead or for anyone outside the game. You may ##Vote: No Lynch. Activity: You must be active as subjectively determined by the hosts. There is a one post and one vote per day absolute minimum; however, effort put into posting will be taken into account. If you are deemed to not be active, you will be modkilled and banned. Players may be replaced at host discretion. This means you play your best to help your team win while you are alive and in the game. However, this does not mean that you should try to win by being a jerk to the other players so they all want to quit playing. I take this exceptionally seriously. You risk a modkill and a ban for not making a concerted effort to try and win the game for your team. Regarding only requesting a Warning for Kelsier, who broke two rules (activity and failure to vote), I have similar feelings to Hapa. He had 16 pages of filter and was exceptionally active and tryhard until the last day phase when he went MIA; if anyone had a right to "throw" for mafia, it was him. Second, he went MIA from Yamato's game off-site around the same time so I suspect there may be IRL issues that came up. Third, he's a newer player here who put for exceptional effort in his first game; I don't feel it's right to punish someone for "forgetting about the game" or "getting distracted by IRL" or whatever when they've shown a pattern throughout the game that their intention is not to do so. So yes, it's subjective in many regards. Patterns for play which is good for the community should be promoted and patterns which are bad for the community should be shunned. Thus why I gaged the ban requests where I did. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
Wasn't geript one of these people going nuts in the previous banthread that some people were not equally treated? Hmm. Or was that only rayn. | ||
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