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Message GMarshal if you request a ban please ^_^
Also when the game you're sitting out is over!
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On November 03 2013 05:30 GMarshal wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2013 05:16 Ange777 wrote:
I would like to request a warning for StorrZerg, Mattchew and VayneAuthority.
StorrZerg and Mattchew were masoned and used other means of communication than QuickTopic although we explicitly told them to refrain from using anything else which resulted in their modkills.
VayneAuthority got himself banned on TL forum during our game which resulted in his modkill. Approved for Storr and Matt, although I'm a little iffy on VA, I generally feel like getting tl banned and having to be modkilled is punishment enough, especially if its a game you wanted to play in, unless it was a requested ban. Either way if you really want VA warned, I'll warn him, it just feels like a double punishment.
In my opinion it isn't that difficult to stay out of troubles and not get a ban on TL. People playing in a game should consider that getting yourself banned on TL is hurting the game and should be easily avoided. I do understand your point though so if you don't want to warn him, I am ok with it.
As for StorrZerg and Mattchew's modkills: if anyone wants to discuss this and hear things from the host's point of view, feel free to PM me but I don't think this is suitable for the Ban List thread 
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On November 03 2013 12:48 iamperfection wrote:
was there a particular reason the discussion had to be limited to the qt?
we asked for skype chat and for the mod to be in it but we got denied that.
i don't get why using skype with a mod in would be a problem. same exact thing as the qt, just no "email" like system to deal with
o and if anyone wants to hear the players point of view on how the mods handled the situation....
I see it only fair i put that out if the mod is going to do so as well.
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The reason that we restrict it to QT is so that other players can review it post-game. There are several people who just like observing games, hence the obs QT threads. Sometimes mods will allow you to have skype/irc convos if you copy them into the QT, but it's up to them
P.S. Ange that is exactly what the banlist thread is for.
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On November 03 2013 21:14 Ange777 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2013 05:30 GMarshal wrote:On November 03 2013 05:16 Ange777 wrote:
I would like to request a warning for StorrZerg, Mattchew and VayneAuthority.
StorrZerg and Mattchew were masoned and used other means of communication than QuickTopic although we explicitly told them to refrain from using anything else which resulted in their modkills.
VayneAuthority got himself banned on TL forum during our game which resulted in his modkill. Approved for Storr and Matt, although I'm a little iffy on VA, I generally feel like getting tl banned and having to be modkilled is punishment enough, especially if its a game you wanted to play in, unless it was a requested ban. Either way if you really want VA warned, I'll warn him, it just feels like a double punishment. In my opinion it isn't that difficult to stay out of troubles and not get a ban on TL. People playing in a game should consider that getting yourself banned on TL is hurting the game and should be easily avoided. I do understand your point though so if you don't want to warn him, I am ok with it. As for StorrZerg and Mattchew's modkills: if anyone wants to discuss this and hear things from the host's point of view, feel free to PM me but I don't think this is suitable for the Ban List thread
Well then there's times when somebody else blatantly lies to some random mod to get you banned.
Ehm
What I'm saying is it depends.
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Dandel so bitter about that.
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Not really bitter.
I'm just saying it's not always that easy.
And then you'd have to look at what happened to get somebody banned and then you have to decide whether that was dumb or not. And and and.
It's honestly just far easier to go "dud got banned from TL so he's basically already sitting out games right now" and be done with it. real.
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I'm fine with a warning, never read this until now. I apologized to the hosts in thread but if they didn't see it, let me re-iterate, I did not want to harm the game in any way and apologize for forcing you to modkill me.
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On November 03 2013 21:14 Ange777 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2013 05:30 GMarshal wrote:On November 03 2013 05:16 Ange777 wrote:
I would like to request a warning for StorrZerg, Mattchew and VayneAuthority.
StorrZerg and Mattchew were masoned and used other means of communication than QuickTopic although we explicitly told them to refrain from using anything else which resulted in their modkills.
VayneAuthority got himself banned on TL forum during our game which resulted in his modkill. Approved for Storr and Matt, although I'm a little iffy on VA, I generally feel like getting tl banned and having to be modkilled is punishment enough, especially if its a game you wanted to play in, unless it was a requested ban. Either way if you really want VA warned, I'll warn him, it just feels like a double punishment. In my opinion it isn't that difficult to stay out of troubles and not get a ban on TL. People playing in a game should consider that getting yourself banned on TL is hurting the game and should be easily avoided. I do understand your point though so if you don't want to warn him, I am ok with it. As for StorrZerg and Mattchew's modkills: if anyone wants to discuss this and hear things from the host's point of view, feel free to PM me but I don't think this is suitable for the Ban List thread
Ange and StorrZerg - if there is any debate about the issue, people (especially the hosts and the affected players!) giving their point of view on the issue and the story being explained properly is pretty much the whole point of the ban list thread. Otherwise, bans would just be resolved entirely via PM.
(Which is basically what iGrok said, but his version wasn't long-winded enough for my tastes!)
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I'm requesting a standard inactivity ban (1 game) for hermeane.
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On November 05 2013 09:41 Qatol wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2013 21:14 Ange777 wrote:On November 03 2013 05:30 GMarshal wrote:On November 03 2013 05:16 Ange777 wrote:
I would like to request a warning for StorrZerg, Mattchew and VayneAuthority.
StorrZerg and Mattchew were masoned and used other means of communication than QuickTopic although we explicitly told them to refrain from using anything else which resulted in their modkills.
VayneAuthority got himself banned on TL forum during our game which resulted in his modkill. Approved for Storr and Matt, although I'm a little iffy on VA, I generally feel like getting tl banned and having to be modkilled is punishment enough, especially if its a game you wanted to play in, unless it was a requested ban. Either way if you really want VA warned, I'll warn him, it just feels like a double punishment. In my opinion it isn't that difficult to stay out of troubles and not get a ban on TL. People playing in a game should consider that getting yourself banned on TL is hurting the game and should be easily avoided. I do understand your point though so if you don't want to warn him, I am ok with it. As for StorrZerg and Mattchew's modkills: if anyone wants to discuss this and hear things from the host's point of view, feel free to PM me but I don't think this is suitable for the Ban List thread Ange and StorrZerg - if there is any debate about the issue, people ( especially the hosts and the affected players!) giving their point of view on the issue and the story being explained properly is pretty much the whole point of the ban list thread. Otherwise, bans would just be resolved entirely via PM. (Which is basically what iGrok said, but his version wasn't long-winded enough for my tastes!)
I aim for efficiency. But next time I'll write a treatise, just for you <3
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On November 05 2013 09:41 Qatol wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2013 21:14 Ange777 wrote:On November 03 2013 05:30 GMarshal wrote:On November 03 2013 05:16 Ange777 wrote:
I would like to request a warning for StorrZerg, Mattchew and VayneAuthority.
StorrZerg and Mattchew were masoned and used other means of communication than QuickTopic although we explicitly told them to refrain from using anything else which resulted in their modkills.
VayneAuthority got himself banned on TL forum during our game which resulted in his modkill. Approved for Storr and Matt, although I'm a little iffy on VA, I generally feel like getting tl banned and having to be modkilled is punishment enough, especially if its a game you wanted to play in, unless it was a requested ban. Either way if you really want VA warned, I'll warn him, it just feels like a double punishment. In my opinion it isn't that difficult to stay out of troubles and not get a ban on TL. People playing in a game should consider that getting yourself banned on TL is hurting the game and should be easily avoided. I do understand your point though so if you don't want to warn him, I am ok with it. As for StorrZerg and Mattchew's modkills: if anyone wants to discuss this and hear things from the host's point of view, feel free to PM me but I don't think this is suitable for the Ban List thread Ange and StorrZerg - if there is any debate about the issue, people ( especially the hosts and the affected players!) giving their point of view on the issue and the story being explained properly is pretty much the whole point of the ban list thread. Otherwise, bans would just be resolved entirely via PM. (Which is basically what iGrok said, but his version wasn't long-winded enough for my tastes!)
StorrZerg and I have talked about this excessively through PMs and I don't see the need to bring it up for discussion again as the two of us obviously won't agree on this matter. If anyone else wants to talk about it we can of course talk about it in this thread. I just always thought that the Ban Thread is mostly about post-game punishments and less about in-game punishments and didn't want to derail conversation.
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Seems simple to me. If you explicitly told them QT only communication, then it's fine to modkill them for it.
From my understanding, however, they were given no such restriction (at least Storr said they weren't), so it's a bit unfair to modkill for that.
Just my two-cents as a third party who only got one side of the story.
Objectively, though, it should be restricted to QT only when alignments are not confirmed, because it's unfair to scum in any other medium.
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I thought the communcation extended into a cycle where they were no longer masoned but were still speaking to each other (through LoL). However that's too clear cut of a case for modkilling so the dates may be more complicated.
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The rules in the OP mostly say that you can use other media. But dont know if voice media is allowed.
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They used something else than QT (LoL) to communicate as a non confirmed mason pair. Previously they had asked us whether they could use something else (Skype) for their communication. We explicitely told them to keep all conversation strictly to QT. We did have suspicions whether they overextended their communication into another cycle but decided to not pursue that anymore as both said they had not.
I agree that we handled the modkill baldy. There have been communication issues (inconsistent statements between co-hosts and primary host) and I do regret that it resulted in misunderstandings for StorrZerg and Mattchew but there has not been another reason for me to modkill them besides what I just wrote. They actively and knowingly broke our rule which in my opinion warranted a modkill.
I know that this is more of a "minor crime" as nothing game-changing happened, they did not break the game by talking to each other on LoL which is why I only requested a warning for them.
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United States22154 Posts
On November 05 2013 13:10 HiroPro wrote:
I'm requesting a standard inactivity ban (1 game) for hermeane.
Approved
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Can I ask for warnings? Or for new rules?
I want to ask a warning for Cephiro for posting baby seals as town.
The baby seal is a cute and happy animal, whenever it is spotted it should bring immediate happiness to you, never should it bring doubt.
Cephiro is feeding the doubt by using this cute little animal as town.
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On November 06 2013 22:45 Koshi wrote:
Can I ask for warnings? Or for new rules?
I want to ask a warning for Cephiro for posting baby seals as town.
The baby seal is a cute and happy animal, whenever it is spotted it should bring immediate happiness to you, never should it bring doubt.
Cephiro is feeding the doubt by using this cute little animal as town.
Then s0lstice needs to be warned too...
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19927143
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On November 06 2013 23:01 phagga wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2013 22:45 Koshi wrote:
Can I ask for warnings? Or for new rules?
I want to ask a warning for Cephiro for posting baby seals as town.
The baby seal is a cute and happy animal, whenever it is spotted it should bring immediate happiness to you, never should it bring doubt.
Cephiro is feeding the doubt by using this cute little animal as town. Then s0lstice needs to be warned too... http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19927143
He was scum?
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dude, you were cop in that game, and 3 posts later he writes
On October 08 2013 02:09 s0Lstice wrote:
sorry for putting you through that Koshi, i had to do SOMETHING
<3
don't tell me you don't remember! Dont' break my heart!
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