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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 06 2013 14:32 GMT
#141
Ofc I remember. Oo
But why are you asking warning for s0sltice?
I had a good night of sleep.
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-06 14:41:39
November 06 2013 14:41 GMT
#142
On November 06 2013 23:32 Koshi wrote:
Ofc I remember. Oo
But why are you asking warning for s0sltice?

Because he used the baby seal? uh... did I miss something?

Edit: I wasn't really asking for a warning, it was just a joke, as was your post. right? RIGHT?
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 06 2013 14:47 GMT
#143
On November 06 2013 23:41 phagga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 23:32 Koshi wrote:
Ofc I remember. Oo
But why are you asking warning for s0sltice?

Because he used the baby seal? uh... did I miss something?

Edit: I wasn't really asking for a warning, it was just a joke, as was your post. right? RIGHT?

No mine wasn't a joke. Cephiro used the baby seal as town, imagine if people start using the baby seal as town, there will be no feel of joy anymore when you see a baby seal. The only feeling you will have is doubt and after a while anger.
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 06 2013 14:48 GMT
#144
Poor phagga.

Babyseals = scumclaim
Therefore town should not use babyseals, and when they do they should be punished mercilessly

is the gist of it
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
November 06 2013 14:55 GMT
#145
On November 06 2013 23:47 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 23:41 phagga wrote:
On November 06 2013 23:32 Koshi wrote:
Ofc I remember. Oo
But why are you asking warning for s0sltice?

Because he used the baby seal? uh... did I miss something?

Edit: I wasn't really asking for a warning, it was just a joke, as was your post. right? RIGHT?

No mine wasn't a joke. Cephiro used the baby seal as town, imagine if people start using the baby seal as town, there will be no feel of joy anymore when you see a baby seal. The only feeling you will have is doubt and after a while anger.

um......

you are joking right?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
November 06 2013 15:19 GMT
#146
On November 06 2013 23:48 marvellosity wrote:
Poor phagga.

Babyseals = scumclaim
Therefore town should not use babyseals, and when they do they should be punished mercilessly

is the gist of it


I feel stupid.

But can anyone explain me the story behind that one?
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 06 2013 15:22 GMT
#147
Er, various mafia have posted babyseals at the point it's obvious they are mafia. Such as Hapa, s0lstice, others I forget.

Cephiro broke the mould (apparently) by posting baby seals as town.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-06 16:03:53
November 06 2013 16:01 GMT
#148
On November 06 2013 03:51 Ange777 wrote:
They used something else than QT (LoL) to communicate as a non confirmed mason pair. Previously they had asked us whether they could use something else (Skype) for their communication. We explicitely told them to keep all conversation strictly to QT. We did have suspicions whether they overextended their communication into another cycle but decided to not pursue that anymore as both said they had not.

I agree that we handled the modkill baldy. There have been communication issues (inconsistent statements between co-hosts and primary host) and I do regret that it resulted in misunderstandings for StorrZerg and Mattchew but there has not been another reason for me to modkill them besides what I just wrote. They actively and knowingly broke our rule which in my opinion warranted a modkill.

I know that this is more of a "minor crime" as nothing game-changing happened, they did not break the game by talking to each other on LoL which is why I only requested a warning for them.


"suspicious that we overextended our communications" bullshit that is why we got mod killed in the first place, and it was wrong

Getting mod killed for the wrong reason (communicating about the game when our QT had ended), explicitly stating that if we had done this "out of game communication while our QT was up" that it would only be a warning.

Dragged through the mud, had ban reason changed several times along with "well if you did this instead or that then only a warning" (ange my claim she never changed her reason, but i cannot prove she did. All i can show is what i was told from the mod acct)

So my issue isn't that i was mod killed, i will argue things were not very clear on mason qts. However my issue ishow the mods handled it. In the real world ange, it isn't as simple as "o my employee fucked up, well so did you mr customer. A simple thing as "well i have the final say so it doesn't matter that my asst mod fucked up" is a load of crap.

So even though i screwed up, i still believe the mods treated me poorly, lied to me, accused me of things i didn't do, and i don't find that acceptable.
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 06 2013 16:01 GMT
#149
When there is obviously no possible chance that you live, as mafia, you post baby seals as a scumclaim to usher yourself out of the game. I'd like to believe it was Hapa's brainchild, at least he's the first person I remember doing it.

Cephiro should die by clubbing for his transgressions.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18109 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-06 16:07:16
November 06 2013 16:06 GMT
#150
On November 07 2013 01:01 Hopeless1der wrote:
When there is obviously no possible chance that you live, as mafia, you post baby seals as a scumclaim to usher yourself out of the game. I'd like to believe it was Hapa's brainchild, at least he's the first person I remember doing it.

Cephiro should die by clubbing for his transgressions.

I don't think you understand the aim of baby seals. Baby seals are innocent. Anybody posting baby seals is claiming to be innocent. You seeing it as an admissal of guilt is just your jaded view of the world.

Both town and scum have motive to claim they are innocent. I have not even looked at the game where Cephiro claimed to be innocent by using baby seal pictures, but presumably he had given up on reasoning with people, and had done all he could for town. All he had left was one last plea that he was innocent: a baby seal.

Of course, scum also want to look innocent despite not being so, and are usually less concerned with things like helping town with their last breath, hence the jaded view of baby seal pictures being an admission of guilt. When what they actually are are protestations of the poster's innocence.

PS. I don't disagree with your conclusion that Cephiro should die by clubbing, just with the reason for doing so. Baby seals exist to be clubbed to death in mafia games.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 06 2013 16:12 GMT
#151
On November 07 2013 00:19 phagga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 23:48 marvellosity wrote:
Poor phagga.

Babyseals = scumclaim
Therefore town should not use babyseals, and when they do they should be punished mercilessly

is the gist of it


I feel stupid.

But can anyone explain me the story behind that one?


It began in liquid city mafia when Hapa was outed as scum by a super OP town role at day start. He posted a ten page filter of bay seal pictures in the next day cycle while we lynched him.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 06 2013 19:01 GMT
#152
I agree with Acrofales' stance on lynch all seals and believe that Koshi is scummy for advocating a warn all town baby seals policy. All players are entitled to the right to post baby seals in order to show the town that they are innocent.

(I haven't read the game, but I assume that Cephiro had tried to avoid the lynch/help town and only posted baby seals when it was clear he was going to be lynched. If Cephiro was intentionally trying to get lynched throughout the game as town then he should get a warning for playing against his win-con.)
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 06 2013 19:04 GMT
#153
I was joking and you were in the game 0o
I had a good night of sleep.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 06 2013 19:08 GMT
#154
What game was this? lol.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-06 19:25:33
November 06 2013 19:17 GMT
#155
Obviously I was joking as well Koshi! I most certainly wasn't under the impression that Cephiro had been mislynched again and that you were coming to the ban list to complain that he flipped town when you had thought he must be scum... Also, you think you caught me being fooled just because you believe somebody playing in a game must also be reading the thread? Ha! It seems you still have much to learn from the ways of Palmar!

-Grack out. ^_^
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 06 2013 19:19 GMT
#156
Just here protecting the babyseals.
I had a good night of sleep.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 06 2013 19:30 GMT
#157
On November 07 2013 04:19 Koshi wrote:
Just here protecting the babyseals.

Liar! I am here protecting the seals by defending the right of a townie to post baby seals. You are attempting to create a scenario where baby seals must be clubbed!
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
November 06 2013 19:35 GMT
#158
This is not the place guys.
Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
November 06 2013 20:17 GMT
#159
Stop bashing on Ange, StorrZerg.

Everything that Ange wrote on the account, she signed. This statement is 100% true. She even signs things on her main account as Ange. If her name is written on the message, she wrote it. If it's not, it wasn't her.

Stop calling us liars and bad hosts. You and Mattchew are the cause of all of this. You two willingly chose to not listen to us and you paid the price for it. Stop complaining and be lucky you only got a warning. It's a freaking slap on the wrist for breaking a very serious rule. You should be thanking her for only requesting a warning, not bitching to her about it.

End of discussion.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-06 20:28:45
November 06 2013 20:26 GMT
#160
Yes Cora that will surely end the discussion rather than escalating it

I think a better way to look at it would be like this: it's clear that storrzerg is not pleased with being modkilled. However, he is not being faced with any consequences such as being banned, so what's in the past is in the past. There's no way to unmodkill him. So unless he wants to have his warning removed, or he wants Ange to be punished, there's no reason to continue posting. Post in this thread only with a goal, not to vent.

His conclusion isn't "I don't deserve a warning" and it isn't "Ange777 should be removed from the host list", it's "I am mad at what happened" and that's not something that belongs here, REGARDLESS as to whether it's justified or not. If Storrzerg wants to contest his warning he has every right to do so, but that's not what he's doing.
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