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I am town, I hope you are too. I like items, but I have none. ##vote: geript | ||
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On August 30 2013 10:37 geript wrote: What u talking bout? I'm like 5th party. *Haunts* Kiiillll...... | ||
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On August 30 2013 10:57 MrZentor wrote: Is everybody okay with me deciding who we lynch today? No. | ||
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On August 30 2013 12:41 geript wrote: If anyone has a gun, they should give it to me so I can shoot. Ty And whom would you shoot if someone was foolish enough to do that? | ||
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On August 30 2013 12:50 geript wrote: Right now, you for asking a stupid question. Oh yes indeed. Because smart people are those, whom hand out guns to random strangers without knowing what they'll do with it? I hope you're going to get serious at some point. | ||
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On August 30 2013 12:57 geript wrote: Why don't you think my push on slam is serious? Because... + Show Spoiler + On August 30 2013 09:22 geript wrote: Slam is scum. Like 1000%. On August 30 2013 09:55 geript wrote: Nah he scum. Already got my red check on him. Rayn is scum w/ him. On August 30 2013 10:05 geript wrote: Here's my case: Slam trolling all wrong. Scum. Where is my prize? On August 30 2013 11:45 geript wrote: Yah slam scum. Night night guys The above is extremely convincing. Looks super serious. "He trolls so he is scum. Like 1000%" The fact that you even call that a push is weird in my opinion. | ||
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On August 30 2013 13:18 geript wrote: L2R My argument isn't that he's trolling, it's that he's trolling wrong for him. Read between the lines. Trolling wrong, trolling right Trolling left, trolling all night Or not trolling at all. Why do you care? | ||
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On August 30 2013 13:21 geript wrote: Why you trying to intentionally get the argument wrong to protect him Ceph? Now you're just pathetically trying to get at something that does not exist. Could you elaborate the difference between "trolling" and "trolling wrong"? Or maybe I'm just stupid. Maybe. | ||
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On August 30 2013 13:26 geript wrote: Yes I could. No I won't. You wouldn't understand the differences unless you had a good understanding of him. If you're going into the territory of "meta", by trying to say that "that's not how he usually trolls / that's not his town-trolling", you shouldn't even play Mafia. Or is this the point where I accuse you of trying undermine me and my intelligence by false claims and giving you an out, not having to explain yourself? | ||
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Also, even if you assume a person wouldn't understand this difference you are talking about, why would you not try to explain it to them? If you're pro-town, you have nothing to lose by explaining why you think someone is scum. But instead, you just decide to sidestep the issue completely. You're not town, you need to die. | ||
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geript Needs to be killed. Keeps begging for gun, has listed several people he would like to kill without proper reasoning. If he's town, he needs to step up and become serious. In my opinion, he hasn't shown any intent of playing pro-town. He tries to make some kind of contact with almost everyone, yet it's all non-committing. yamato77 A general bad vibe. Flip-flops on WaveOfShadow. It feels like he's trying to establish a connection without content, as he doesn't want it to be a raised issue. + Show Spoiler + On August 30 2013 22:31 yamato77 wrote: Calm down, WoS. I just told you I'm not that interested in you atm. It is impossible to say for sure yet, but a possibility is that he's trying to create a false sense of communication with a scumbuddy. There are many times when the scum player can be found not for his connections, but for the lack of them. VayneAuthority On August 30 2013 16:09 VayneAuthority wrote: No I don't think he's scum yet but that he would be a good shot. This single sentence alone (references to his opinion about me), is enough for me to raise my suspicions. If you're town, why would you want to kill someone that you think isn't scum? Especially without delving further into the matter, or not even mentioning if he thinks I could be a 3rd party? What I feel from this line is fear. And town does not need to fear me. There is a ton of people flying under the radar at the moment, but for now there isn't very much to do about it. I'll be more than happy to pressure them, but given what we have seen already there are more urgent matters at hand. @Koshi May I please have your item? My powers exceed it's. I will forward it to anyone that town wants the next day. | ||
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On August 31 2013 01:16 Koshi wrote: If it is useless to you I am not going to give it. Then I can just keep it O.o. It is not useless to me. As my mentioned, my powers are stronger than of the items. I can make good use of it for town. And the item will stay as is. | ||
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On August 31 2013 01:33 VayneAuthority wrote: cephiro - get softly discredited by multiple people for "caring about the game" when I play differently every game so it's just an excuse to have an opinion. My case is promptly swept under the rug and nobody ever mentions him again until he responds to my post. On August 30 2013 15:58 VayneAuthority wrote: Don't like his posting so far. attacking really stupid posts like geript asking for bullets and some guy asking if he can decide the lynch. and the geript lynch just seems predetermined and contrived as opposed to anything that he actually put thought into If this is your "case", I am not wondering at all why people didn't even bother mentioning it. My name has popped up a few times though, you may want to be a bit more careful with your reading. Looking really bad for you. | ||
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On August 31 2013 01:37 VayneAuthority wrote: Also I have a very good reason to play very pro-town this game, so get off my nuts ty already showed in my first post through elegant trickery that i'm not scum On August 30 2013 14:51 VayneAuthority wrote: I feel like we have quite a task at hand A rather large one May you all be so kind as to cooperate? Not a single person should step out of line Or you will feel my wrath in due time Test my patience if you will, but not my mind. So let's have a good clean game of fun, whether we are Crying tears of joy or filled with anger Under all this talk and banter May we find peace together. You keep claiming you are not scum, but you never even mention the thought you could be town. You are clearly a 3rd party afraid of me. Care to elaborate on your reasons to play very pro-town? | ||
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On August 31 2013 01:42 VayneAuthority wrote: of course you want to paint me as a third party when you know I'm not actually scum. And revealing my role makes it completely worthless but I'm trying to hint here. its very useful. See, you're not even trying to deny it. You're clearly NOT TOWN. Unless you provide a very good reason how you are of benefit for the town, you should be killed. Why should we keep anyone not town around otherwise? The underlined is an interesting reaction. I never called you specifically scum or 3rd party at first, until my latest message. All I said up to that point were my suspicions of you. You could very well be scum, but your responses are screaming "3rd party." And as long as you are anything but town, you should die for all I care. @VE: To answer your earlier question: I am up for a lurker lynch today if that is the only way we're going to gain majority, but I think we have much better options available we should go for. | ||
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On August 31 2013 01:44 raynpelikoneet wrote: What the fuck is with everyone suspecting someone to be third party? Cephiro, ObviousOne, explain. I suspect VA to be 3rd party because he constantly mentions how he is not scum, but has at no point tried to establish himself as a townie. He keeps phrasing his words in such manner he at no point claims to be town, yet he constantly denies being scum. You can check some of the quotes I pointed out for yourself. What is also interesting is that he keeps mentioning his role constantly in his last posts. At no point have I asked for his role or how it works, yet he keeps going for how he does not want to talk about it since it will become useless. I have only asked for his motive to play pro-town. Conclusion: He has no motive to play pro town, so he's trying to keep up the curtains by trying to make a mystery out of his role, hoping that people will trust him that he can't reveal it's usefulness because otherwise he couldn't use it in a pro-town manner. | ||
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I was at no point pressuring him for his role, yet he martyred it quite quickly. I see no reason why he should have claimed that. Even with our current knowledge of his role it is still possible to use it in a pro-town way, if he would be town. (Assuming he does not lie about his ability, which I don't think he does.) So was the aim of your play to look like a threat so you would be nightkilled? Nothing in your play points me towards that direction. You gave up on yourself so fast after light pressure, why would a townie due that (if not for inexperience?). I think you're just trying to get a free "out-of-jail" card, by claiming to be an useless VT and staying in a little longer for that reason alone. That on the other hand makes me think you are in a faction with multiple players since you'd have no reason to stay in after "giving up" that early otherwise. Whether your faction is pro-town or not I can't say, but it's not town and that's all I care about. | ||
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On August 31 2013 03:00 Blazinghand wrote: geript is your typical low-hanging fruit / lynchbait townie, as he often is. let me rephrase what you've said here geript: "keeps begging for a gun, has stuck his neck out and stated who he wants to kill, even if he hasn't fully reasoned it though. We're less than 24 hours in the game, and geript is being his usual non-seriosu stuff. He is being very active and trying to at least make some contact with every player!" well shit now he sounds like not a good lynch huh In this paragraph you are simply twisting my words to make me look worse. I said my honest opinion, if you do not agree, feel free to argue otherwise. I feel this is a very relevant sentence: On August 31 2013 01:14 Cephiro wrote: There are many times when the scum player can be found not for his connections, but for the lack of them. If one is town, why would the feel the need of chit-chatting with everyone? Concentrate on what you feel is off, give it strong pressure (not tunneling), and gain more information. Do you not agree it is more useful to pressure someone you consider anti-town rather than talk a little about everything and commit to nothing? + Show Spoiler + On August 31 2013 03:00 Blazinghand wrote: You know who's a good lynch? Cephiro check out dis shit Cephiro claims that he can't deal with a meta of trolls, but doesn't want to admit that to do otherwise is to policy lynch trolling. I'm not saying I'm not down for that, but if you gotta call a horse a horse and say "I dont' like geript's style, so even though I don't think he's scum, I want to lynch him anyways" if that's what your'e doing. You misunderstood. People that have played with me in the past know that I absolutely hate players who are trying to go by "meta" instead of playing the game. It's not like anyone can't change their style on purpose or do something unexpected, or even pretend to do the same as before to mislead others. I have at no point said "I don't think geript is scum". I have clearly come out with my intent of wanting him dead. + Show Spoiler + On August 31 2013 03:00 Blazinghand wrote: His interaction with VA, although it seems at first to be the classic "overzealous townie" style, is in fact far more insidious. Take a look: OK so what is going on here? Well, VA is, well, kinda joking around and posted and acrostic saying "I AM NOT SCUM". Was it worth his time? No. Was it useful to town? No. Is it a scumtell? I don't really see why. The fact that he wrote "i am not scum" rather than "i am town" isn't like a scumslip or anything, that's just how he chose to phrase it. Cephiro is going all lou ferrigno on this guy for phrasing his claim to be town differently. This isn't overzealous townie, this is someone trying to play overzealous townie. overzealous townies cling to hard to certain pieces of evidence, go over the top, and push/tunnel hard, but almost always these pieces of evidence are pieces of evidence that make sense. Cephiro doesn't make sense. The fact that he is loud, or that he tried pushing a relatively defenseless player (geript) should not be mitigating factors. Let's lynch him. ##vote Cephiro I feel like this last point is very lacking. I stated why it seemed anti-town in my opinion. For some it can be a scumtell, for some not. You can never be sure, but the way he acted about it was one of the reasons I felt he is anti-town. Overall BH, I'm a bit disappointed in your case. Could you just not find more things you could try to paint as anti-town or why does it feel that your case is merely throwing a rock in my direction? You didn't even vote for me in the vote thread. It's good to have your eyes open, but if you're looking for anything else than town, you're looking at the wrong direction. | ||
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On August 31 2013 03:36 kitaman27 wrote: You appear to infer that BH has malicious intentions by "twisting your words" and trying to "paint you as anti-town", but you never really come out with an accusation that he is scum. What is your opinion of him? Knowing how long he's played here and how good he can be, I'd expect more of him. He clearly twists my words, but that is something that can happen easily when you are trying hard to pressure someone. You start seeing your thoughts as the absolute word and thus twist everything someone says into such matters. I've had a very neutral read on him so far, but his case makes him look slightly worse to me. I wouldn't go as far as calling him anti-town yet. On August 31 2013 03:37 VayneAuthority wrote: don't worry, the fact that cephiro even felt the need to respond to that case gives you back some points In my opinion, a townie should not neglect a case on them however bad it is, especially if some things are painted in a way which could be misunderstood compared to the original intentions. I don't know about you, but in my opinion I'd look much more scummy if I just let it slide by when no-one else seemed to take much note of it. | ||
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On August 31 2013 04:09 Onegu wrote: I win with town, but it tells me to be careful in qt as apature science may have infiltrated it. 1) Does your whole faction win with town, or is it you only? I'm curious if Black Mesa is a group of people with different objectives. Do you know everyone else in the faction, or did you just slip your identity by mistake. (Meaning others would know yours, but you don't know theirs?) | ||
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On August 31 2013 07:04 yamato77 wrote: Caught up, things to reply to: + Show Spoiler + On August 31 2013 01:14 Cephiro wrote: Alrighty. It seems like there has been some interesting discussion going on. I very strongly think that unless the situation is extremely favourable for town, everyone except town should be killed. What I mean is, different 3rd parties are just as good as scum to me. geript Needs to be killed. Keeps begging for gun, has listed several people he would like to kill without proper reasoning. If he's town, he needs to step up and become serious. In my opinion, he hasn't shown any intent of playing pro-town. He tries to make some kind of contact with almost everyone, yet it's all non-committing. yamato77 A general bad vibe. Flip-flops on WaveOfShadow. It feels like he's trying to establish a connection without content, as he doesn't want it to be a raised issue. + Show Spoiler + On August 30 2013 22:31 yamato77 wrote: Calm down, WoS. I just told you I'm not that interested in you atm. It is impossible to say for sure yet, but a possibility is that he's trying to create a false sense of communication with a scumbuddy. There are many times when the scum player can be found not for his connections, but for the lack of them. VayneAuthority This single sentence alone (references to his opinion about me), is enough for me to raise my suspicions. If you're town, why would you want to kill someone that you think isn't scum? Especially without delving further into the matter, or not even mentioning if he thinks I could be a 3rd party? What I feel from this line is fear. And town does not need to fear me. There is a ton of people flying under the radar at the moment, but for now there isn't very much to do about it. I'll be more than happy to pressure them, but given what we have seen already there are more urgent matters at hand. @Koshi May I please have your item? My powers exceed it's. I will forward it to anyone that town wants the next day. Calls me scum for my interactions with WoS that look like scum interacting with scum, but doesn't think WoS is scum in the same post. Bullshit. Would lynch. Ooh. Please point out where I called you scum? Neither did I mention my thoughts about WoS with a single word. Talk about putting words into my mouth. I'm hoping you're just a bad town omgusing, but that is a very eager defense over something so little. Why do you think kita is scum? | ||
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On August 31 2013 07:32 Koshi wrote: If geript is scum, isn't this a really bad time to claim unlynchable? Why did he do it as scum? One possibility could be is that his powers have to do with people voting on him. I would imagine town has many other possibilities than just lynching to get rid of someone, thus it may very well be that he's baiting votes on himself to cause us trouble. Or then he's just being in-your-face daring. In any case, it can be dealt with by night actions if we'd rather decide to do so. Have you thought about giving me the item? | ||
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On August 31 2013 07:37 Blazinghand wrote: He could be hoping to avoid being lynched in hopes of being vigied instead, and his team has a mafia medic they can just use on him (since he'll be catching N1 bullets). Alternatively, he could be a weird 3p role that wants to get... shot? Certainly in the example of a non-lynchproof non-town geript there are many reasons he might want to just live through D1 and make it to N2. Is this pure speculation or are you slipping? Let's assume he is mafia and mafia has a medic. Why would this assumed mafia trade information of their powers for one KP really? If I was scum, I certainly wouldn't give info about my team's roles so easily. On August 31 2013 07:37 Koshi wrote: I'll give it to you or to Clarity. I'll give it to somebody who asks for it. Randomize if needed. I'd prefer you didn't give it to anyone else unless they can make use of it in a pro-town way like me. Just saying. | ||
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On August 31 2013 07:55 HiroPro wrote: Clarity and strong. I haven't found the others yet, but I will! Would you mind if I received the item? I think we can work together. You seem to hate red as much as I do. Who would you kill if your target was to be Aperture Science? | ||
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On August 31 2013 08:05 HiroPro wrote: I think it's fairly obvious that I want to kill BH right now -_- I'd prefer to get the item first. Assumed so, wanted to make sure. Any other targets? I am thinking you would use the item for good, but of course the safest choice for me is to vouch for myself. Let us assume a situation where you are given this "Null Talisman". You must have powers that either use it or are stronger than it. You wouldn't want it otherwise. Do you want this specific item, or are you fine any random item? If you are given the item, would you be able to eliminate a target in exchange? | ||
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On August 31 2013 08:14 HiroPro wrote: I'd rather not reveal stuff like this right now. For obvious reasons. Alright, I understand. I hope you'd agree with me receiving the item before the end of the day though, but I'll not pursue you further about this unless something comes up. | ||
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I am going to change on my vote if you will stick with those three. | ||
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On September 01 2013 07:19 AxleGreaser wrote: + Show Spoiler + On September 01 2013 07:05 Cephiro wrote: What I mean is, if you're going to stick with those 3 people as your "trusted ones" for shenanigans, I will vote on you instead. Why? Does that mean you dont trust them? (BTW I am happy if only two of the three are town) That you now dont trust me because I chose them? If you vote for me instead then they cant so safely swap to vote for me? If you are town please dont do that (swap to vote for me) if you are scum (and not one of those three VE Clairty BH ) feel free to vote for me. Yes, it means there are people I don't trust enough in there. However, if your tricks are of such manner they cannot cause anti-town to gain a benefit, then I don't mind. But you're clearly looking for people you trust, which is why I'm assuming there is something that can go wrong. On September 01 2013 07:15 WaveofShadow wrote: ...if you had read it you'd know that I am unquestionably town atm. Since when? I've read it multiple times and I do not agree with this statement. | ||
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I wish you would pick other persons instead of VE & BH. Especially BH. I'm perfectly fine with clarity. | ||
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On September 01 2013 08:01 Blazinghand wrote: I don't know why everyone's all up on me for low D1 activity as though that's some kind of scumtell, as though I've ever done that as scum besides in parallel worlds mafia Not the amount. The content. | ||
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On September 01 2013 08:03 Blazinghand wrote: when geript flips scum you will bow down before me That has nothing to do with bowing down to you. I want geript to die just as much. I do not buy his claim. | ||
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On September 01 2013 08:29 WaveofShadow wrote: Your confidence in shitflinging on the back of AG's play is cause for concern to me. ^ This. Also Blazing, if I would say "It's because I'm scum and I don't want the plan to succeed", THEN I would be lying. | ||
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On September 01 2013 08:58 Koshi wrote: I brought popcorn for everybody. Did you bring me the item? In that case, I'll bring even more popcorn. | ||
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On September 01 2013 08:59 geript wrote: Also, nobody give shit to Ceph. Unless you want scum to live, that's exactly what you should be doing. Or do you have a better suggestion for the Null Talisman? | ||
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 What a tragedic start for my birthday. Well, I suppose there's no question as for what geript's power does. | ||
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On September 01 2013 09:22 VayneAuthority wrote: do you have a deathwish or something? You know now that BH flipped town that you are pretty much confirmed scum to me Nope. I don't care how I look in your eyes. You claimed your role already. If you are town, there is no reason for scum or 3rd party to kill you, since that KP could be used against them. Right? If you are scum/3P, then you can be lying for god knows how much. I still do not think you are town, nor play very pro-town. So in my eyes it's between killing an anti-town threat or gaining 2 KP for one useless town which sounds quite good to me. | ||
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On September 01 2013 09:27 VayneAuthority wrote: if you are town I fail to see how using a town KP to shoot town so I can shoot town is beneficial. But then again that's why I think you're a moron or anti-town. Because your ability won't activate until 2 more days. By that we'll have more than enough information to certainly hit scum. Brains. You have them, use them. | ||
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On September 01 2013 09:29 VayneAuthority wrote: no dude. When I die I have to pick immediately, I don't get to wait for 2 days then pick LOL. Oh, duh. In that case, nevermind. Not worth the risk taking your current opinions into account, as it would certainly hit at least one town. | ||
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On September 01 2013 09:41 WaveofShadow wrote: If that's the case then my list is irrelevant, but then Onegu using his own name wouldn't make sense. No offense, but there are so many better things to concentrate on rather than even bother thinking about that meta-list of yours. Could just as well try to deduce them on times they've posted and where they live - not really worth it. You can't say for sure nor can you narrow down the list enough. Best to just drop the subject, stop trying to meta and concentrate on playing with everything in front of us instead. | ||
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On September 01 2013 09:48 Koshi wrote: Clarity IIRC it was you or HiroPro that wanted my item? You ok with giving it to HiroPro first? I am the townie that can make most use of that item. Believe me. | ||
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Who would you kill at night if you could? | ||
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Target of the Night: Oatsmaster
Long story short, he speaks a lot, but he doesn't commit to anything. There has only been light pressure from him, and usually he's already targeting someone else before his targets even care to respond, and drops them completely. He's trying to look like he contributes, but he isn't doing anything useful. | ||
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On September 02 2013 02:54 Oatsmaster wrote: I was one of the initial pushers on Felkyr and got people off geript for a while until he came back to the thread. CONTRIBUTION GUYS. So you're saying "got people off geript" as it would have been a merit, yet your latest opinions state you want him dead? One of the initial sheeps you mean? I just checked again to be sure, and after seeing at least 3 people before you I stopped reading further back. One of the few people you've pressured a little, yet you haven't seemingly cared about him at all in a while. And you still think it's a merit for you? | ||
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On September 02 2013 03:11 Oatsmaster wrote: + Show Spoiler + On September 02 2013 03:02 Cephiro wrote: So you're saying "got people off geript" as it would have been a merit, yet your latest opinions state you want him dead? One of the initial sheeps you mean? I just checked again to be sure, and after seeing at least 3 people before you I stopped reading further back. One of the few people you've pressured a little, yet you haven't seemingly cared about him at all in a while. And you still think it's a merit for you? You read my filter. And you didnt see that I think Felkyr town? Yeah bullshit. It means that I was pushing something rather than you said I was just staying back and not being useful. ceph scum, Ezpz. Oh whoopsie, are you already forgetting who you thought was town and whom scum? Your latest opinion on geript, whom I was referencing to: On September 02 2013 01:25 Oatsmaster wrote: nononono Geript is playing like a caught scum. Why else kill the strongest townie in the game? Your three latest posts about Felkyr, from latest to oldest: On September 01 2013 04:22 Oatsmaster wrote: Felkyr seems to be trying his best I feel CC. TOO BAD. Not geript too man. QUICKLYNCH YAMATO. I assume this is where you "think Felkyr is town". And the two before.. On September 01 2013 01:25 Oatsmaster wrote: Felkyr, why arent you asking anyone questions???? On August 31 2013 21:49 Oatsmaster wrote: Also Felkyr is totally scum man. Dont be fooled by newb townie, even any new townplayer wouldve at least done something other than SETUP SPECULATION. Its the easiest thing to pick up on for new scum because the thoughts surrounding them arent fake. ... Yeah. Try again? | ||
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Your reaction was exactly I was expecting, and it confirmed my thoughts about you. I thank thee for co-operating, all that remains is to say, farewell scum. | ||
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On September 02 2013 05:41 Clarity_nl wrote: Please can someone explain this while making sense. All these townreads on dandel I just don't get it. ^ This. & Kill Oatsmaster. | ||
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On September 02 2013 10:11 MrZentor wrote: It didn't have anything to do with Isaac, did it? You're asking me? Err... no idea. Should tell me if you know anything about oats though. | ||
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Able to join the discussion in 2-3 hours. | ||
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If you have questions about my opinions regarding someone, ask. I will most likely share my view. Oats needs to get lynched. | ||
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On September 03 2013 05:07 geript wrote: This Oats totes scum. This has to be the smartest thing from you all game long. | ||
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On September 03 2013 19:44 Oatsmaster wrote: I kinda like hassy's explanation cause its not like he was instantly accusing kita for being scum. It felt like he was genunienly confused. The thing is, how could he even accuse kita of being scum? The results of kita's action where shown us all. Hardly can you imagine he's scum for revealing all actions used on VE? I don't necessarily agree that was the best choice, but at least it confirmed us his alignment, and as things look now I would look into lynching Hassy as well. Top 3 lynches for today: Oatsmaster geript Hassybaby | ||
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On September 03 2013 20:11 Oatsmaster wrote: kita could be lying. Ok whatever. Give any reasons why Im scum Ceph PLEASE. I BEG YOU. As mentioned earlier.. you do not commit, you don't contribute, you flip-flop. Most of all, your reactions against any pressure made on you point out your alignment incredibly clearly. The amount of OMGUS from you on me is just ridiculous, yet you haven't even bothered to try and convince others of killing me for as much you believe me to be scum. Don't worry, you'll get killed soon enough. | ||
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On September 03 2013 21:00 Oatsmaster wrote: Flip flopping isnt scummy. I have contributed. Not committing? Calling a load of dudes confirmed scum or town isnt committing? Can you explain why I dont have a good reason to think you are scum? Can you also explain how shouting 'lynch oats' all the time is convincing people? I bet you cant. You're just plain horrible. You're not even trying are you? Flipflopping ain't scummy since when? Sure, if you have a good reason you can change your mind, but you constantly do without any. No, you have not contributed. Committing is not changing targets every few hours and saying "he's confirmed scum". Do you know what confirmed scum is? You should check up the word "confirmed" from a dictionary, might help out a bit. I have provided my reasons why you should die multiple times, I'm just reminding others that you really need to die. On the other hand, your question is hilarious. "Can you explain why I don't have a good reason to think you are scum?" ... LOL. Yeah, so you want me to make a case on myself so that you would have something to convince others with? You're just omgus-calling me scum but you're not doing shit about it. Because you don't care. You're scum and you don't care. | ||
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On September 03 2013 21:40 Oatsmaster wrote: haha you cant. Lol Ceph. Have i changed targets more than saying that felkyr is now town and geript is scum? Show other 'flipflops' Ceph. Changing targets =/= flipflopping. You've done both though. Here's a list of your targets: VE, kita, WoS, Felkyr, BH, yamato, geript, MrZ, Ceph, OO, Randombum, Hiro, alakaslam, clarity, CC, Risen Wow. That's all. On September 03 2013 21:40 Oatsmaster wrote: Also Im not sure what committing is to you then. Having the same read the whole game? Have you never play mafia before? Dude your whole filter is lynch Oats. Thats horrible. Who else is scum Ceph? Give 3 reasons why Im scum and quote from my filter, everyone who calls me scum. I've played mafia before, but one could question if you have based on your play. My filter has a lot of else, but it's more than evident you're not even reading it. You keep thinking and saying I'm scum but you haven't done anything about that. If you were so sure I'm scum, I would have expected you to do much more than "Ceph scum." I've given told why you are scum more than enough times. I don't give a shit about repeating myself to you, when you're not even properly defending yourself. You just reply with stupid, irrelevant questions that I have to keep pointing out when I respond. Sure, my filter from D2 is mostly filled with you? Why? Because I'm certain you're scum. Why should I try to get someone else killed when I know I've got you red-handed? I do have several other reads, but you're my most certain one and I want you dead. I'll pursue the others when you die. And because you are going to ask anyway... why do I not share my reads on the other people I feel like scum now? Because you're my point of importance, I won't let go until you are dead. Not giving a forewarn to the other players I suspect, they may be more easily caught off-guard. And that's when I'll pressure them hard. Real hard. I have no reason to move my focus from you since you're not providing anything as for the chance you could be town. Everything you do and say reeks of scum. On September 03 2013 21:59 Clarity_nl wrote: And Cephiro, Oats isn't wrong. You've been shouting that he's scum but done not much else. I don't like his lynch today at all so please focus elsewhere and return to it later if you must. See above. | ||
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On September 04 2013 02:48 Clarity_nl wrote: But we are not lynching oats today. For now join the discussion on people who might actually get lynched. You may continue after the deadline. And I'm going to pursue till the deadline that he should die. I'm not gonna mess the vote up or anything since that would be retarded, but everyone should think for a moment and get enough votes on Oats to get him lynched. | ||
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On September 04 2013 06:51 Hassybaby wrote: Neither is Risen... There's 3 main targets, and you're both trying to push different ones when there's 2 hours left. Why? I thought I pointed out my reasons quite clearly. Bad hassy, are you reading properly? And no catfaces either... | ||
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On September 04 2013 07:01 Alakaslam wrote: Ok. I am in really bad reception, but I could possibly be useful I hope. See, I am not wholly powerless, due to items- I can become a vet, and I say now that I will seriously try for the rest of the game and ask you guys before I do bullshit. Yeah, I suck at scum hunting but I can differentiate null and town. I can try to do elimination scum reads and whatnot, but for now that is what I can do. So can I give you some townreads and nulls? Clarity and cheesecake, cakepie and Koshi, Oatsmaster maybe, pretty sure Raynepelikoneet is. ShiaoPi has not said much, could be blending in, but green check, so null because could be Gf or reverse framed or whatnot. Risen looks ok, I'd say null. Hiropro is totally null. Geript null to scummy, he has my vote a I'm legitimately buttz about him killing Blazinghand. Coagulation replaced in and should be given time to speak before I give him anything better than null, lookin' forwar to his comments on my buttz level xD If I don't remember you here, you are not standing out in any way and are therefore worthy of my light FoS. I think Yamato is in this game, isn't he? He is always easy to read for other people when scum so I will let you all see to that  Oh yeah Kita too. I think Kita is so so. And Marvellosity I totes scum this game. + Show Spoiler + Made you think I got confused again didn't I? Hehe ;D Woah. That was like completely useless. Yeah, I don't mind you being the other one to be lynched. | ||
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On September 04 2013 07:07 AxleGreaser wrote: Please clarify do you wish to policy lynch Alak or are you saying it gave you scum vibes? I'm fine with policy lynching him. But I want Oats dead. | ||
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On September 04 2013 07:32 HiroPro wrote: Well you've been voting for him for the entire day and it's been stuck at 2 or 3 the entire time so no it's not likely at all. It's still more than one, and you can make it three. Then it won't take many more to reach #2. | ||
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On September 04 2013 08:13 Clarity_nl wrote: Are you saying none of geript, slam or hassy are scum? Because they all have 6 votes and you're on someone that won't get lynched. On September 04 2013 02:52 Cephiro wrote: And I'm going to pursue till the deadline that he should die. I'm not gonna mess the vote up or anything since that would be retarded, but everyone should think for a moment and get enough votes on Oats to get him lynched. | ||
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On September 04 2013 08:19 VayneAuthority wrote: not like im in any danger I still wouldn't mind seeing you dead. If you keep boasting thinking you're safe, I'll do everything I can to change that very quickly. | ||
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On September 04 2013 08:26 VayneAuthority wrote: you have very little say in this town so im not really concerned. If you ever try to push me for your own gain or even think of it, it will be extremely obvious and you will die without an impressive case. Oh. I just remembered you're the one who felt so pressured by so little that you cried into roleclaiming when I didn't even ask for it. Yeah. Looks really bad for me and really good for you. I pushed you once, and I can push you all the way through again to get you killed. You just dare me. It's not for my own gain, it's for the best of town. Don't expect to be alive after D3. | ||
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wow man I think a lotta people are scum at one time or another. Oh wait. thats a towntell. Silly you. [quote] ... Wha... just what the fuck? You can't be serious. You call half of the players in this game scum and that's a towntell? Don't take it as a personal offense but I really feel you're retarded currently. [QUOTE]On September 04 2013 08:28 Oatsmaster wrote: Its not like you cant post about other people and still keep me as your 'main' target. Also this is real hard pressure? lol. Assuming I'm town for some unexplainable reason Ceph, do you think you are playing a bit badly for tunneling me for 3 days and not doing much else to help town lynch scum? [/QUOTE] I've said that I'll gladly answer any questions pointed out to me, and so far I have not noticed someone asking me for a very specific read on anyone. I'll certainly admit if I'm wrong on you, then I have not been as useful to town as I wish to be, but I am very certain about you being scum. Also tunneling you for 3 days, lol what? Protip: This game is in D2. It hasn't even been 3 irl days yet. | ||
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[QUOTE]On September 04 2013 08:28 Oatsmaster wrote: wow man I think a lotta people are scum at one time or another. Oh wait. thats a towntell. Silly you. [quote] ... Wha... just what the fuck? You can't be serious. You call half of the players in this game scum and that's a towntell? Don't take it as a personal offense but I really feel you're retarded currently. [QUOTE]On September 04 2013 08:28 Oatsmaster wrote: Its not like you cant post about other people and still keep me as your 'main' target. Also this is real hard pressure? lol. Assuming I'm town for some unexplainable reason Ceph, do you think you are playing a bit badly for tunneling me for 3 days and not doing much else to help town lynch scum? [/QUOTE] I've said that I'll gladly answer any questions pointed out to me, and so far I have not noticed someone asking me for a very specific read on anyone. I'll certainly admit if I'm wrong on you, then I have not been as useful to town as I wish to be, but I am very certain about you being scum. Also tunneling you for 3 days, lol what? Protip: This game is in D2. It hasn't even been 3 irl days yet. EBWOP: Fixed formatting. | ||
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On September 04 2013 08:28 Oatsmaster wrote: wow man I think a lotta people are scum at one time or another. Oh wait. thats a towntell. Silly you. ... Wha... just what the fuck? You can't be serious. You call half of the players in this game scum and that's a towntell? Don't take it as a personal offense but I really feel you're retarded currently. On September 04 2013 08:28 Oatsmaster wrote: Its not like you cant post about other people and still keep me as your 'main' target. Also this is real hard pressure? lol. Assuming I'm town for some unexplainable reason Ceph, do you think you are playing a bit badly for tunneling me for 3 days and not doing much else to help town lynch scum? I've said that I'll gladly answer any questions pointed out to me, and so far I have not noticed someone asking me for a very specific read on anyone. I'll certainly admit if I'm wrong on you, then I have not been as useful to town as I wish to be, but I am very certain about you being scum. Also tunneling you for 3 days, lol what? Protip: This game is in D2. It hasn't even been 3 irl days yet. EBWOP: Fixed formatting. EBWOP 2: I suck at formatting. | ||
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On September 04 2013 08:34 VayneAuthority wrote: Oh I remember you're the fucking scrub that has done nothing this game except cry for oats to be lynched and no one is listening to you. I'm really scared that you're pushing me rofl. Yeah, keep whining that you "revealed your role" after some light pressure. You shat your pants once, and you think you're anything when there's more important people to take care about than a little scumfish like you? Someone give me a gun so that I can rid of this small piece of uselessness. | ||
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On September 04 2013 08:39 VayneAuthority wrote: hassy can you say with 100% straight face that you are town? I can attempt to salvage this On September 04 2013 08:36 VayneAuthority wrote: and would you be willing to help us continue to solve the game for the next night phase? Oh shut up. Like you're the one who does anything about that? You're in no position to discuss. | ||
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On September 04 2013 08:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: Also why the fuck are you attacking Vayne Cephiro? Have you not read the thread at all? Give me a reason why I should NOT. | ||
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On September 04 2013 09:18 kitaman27 wrote: Uhh do you know what Hassy flipped or something? How does that relate to what I said? I think I was quite obviously meaning my read considering geript, and that I changed my vote on Alakaslam. | ||
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On September 04 2013 09:28 Clarity_nl wrote: So Cephiro switching at the latest moment possible actually made it so that slam didn't get lynched, fuck off. I changed my vote TO slam. What the fuck are you rambling about? | ||
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Seriously, use your brain for a second. If I had not changed, it would have been: Alakaslam (7): geript (9): Hassybaby (8): So it wouldn't have changed the result. I tried to make it for the better. | ||
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On September 04 2013 09:40 Clarity_nl wrote: Explain to me the reasoning behind the last second switch? Working from the assumption that you didn't know that your switch wouldn't matter. And no, the first votecount has 9 people. +8 - X = 7, X = 1 Second votecount has 9 people. +8 -X = 8, X = 0 It's because something changed the fate, read geripts role pm. The switch was 6 minutes before the end.. I switched because Hassy was the last option out of those three to die for me, and due to geript's last contributions I really started doubting myself and thought he might be town after all. In that case, isn't changing my vote from geript to Alakaslam the most logical choice? | ||
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On September 04 2013 09:47 Clarity_nl wrote: Ugh, maybe. But realize that geript flipped town and I still believe slam is scum. Look at how hard it is to get him lynched. I've had a townread on you despite the oats tunnel, and maybe partly because of it, but this voteswitch I'm trying to wrap my head around. Think about it calmly for a second. 1) I managed to correct my read on geript, and thus changed my vote off from him. Geript flips town. 2) I voted for Alakaslam instead, who you believe to be scum. I'm all for people doubting me if I make questionable actions, but in my opinion this was a very pro-town move, and a correct choice I ended making. | ||
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On September 04 2013 09:52 Clarity_nl wrote: Let me counter that by saying: It's a pro town move that didn't change anything. It LOOKS like a move to look better. See where I'm coming from? Alright yeah, I guess that makes sense from the perspective if you assumed me to be scum and thus knowing geript's alignment. But even as scum I would not have known how geript's voting power would have worked, so it would have been an unreliable move. So I'd think if I was scum it would have made more sense to keep my vote on geript to ensure his lynch? From the true (town) perspective my actions make clear sense. I've tried to play as pro-town as possible so far, and I will continue to do so till the moment I die. And even after that. | ||
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On September 03 2013 09:36 GreYMisT wrote: Welcome to Aperture Mafia 2: Episode 2! You are Alphonse Elric, Brother to the Fullmetal Alchemist! Each night you may place a transmutation circle on a player. You may only have 1 circle drawn at any time, and the addition of a new one will eliminate your old one. This Circle will be activated at night after a full day of being on a player. The effect of your transmutation will depend on the fate counters. If the fate counter is negative, your target will be protected from 1 kp until the next day, and if the fate counter is [0, 4], they will be roleblocked until the next day. The first time the fate counter is 5 or greater, your transmutation will kill them immediately. After using the kill ability, the fate counter at 5 or more will roleblock instead. FURTHER INFORMATION REDACTED. You win when you are alive at the end of the game. The fate counter is only at 1 for now. it will only roleblock him for now, unless the fate suddenly goes up a lot during the night. | ||
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On September 04 2013 10:02 MrZentor wrote: Don't shoot me. Cephiro knows I'm townie. You really need to sheep less and do more though >_> You should be capable of that when D3 starts if you survive till that, right? | ||
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On September 04 2013 10:35 VisceraEyes wrote: First you ask me to go away and now you want favors? Get outta here Hiro. LOL VE, up for a Vayne lynch tomorrow? | ||
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On September 04 2013 10:40 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why the fuck do you want to lynch a townie? Seriously? Why the hell do you think he's town? The only reason I want him lynched instead of vigged is: In the chance that he is not lying about his role: 1) If he's scum, 2 KP for scum sucks for town. 2) If he somehow ends up being town, he'll just end up shooting more townies considering his current reads. | ||
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A more appropriate question would be "Why not?". I'll be going more in-detail on reasons why on D3. | ||
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On September 04 2013 10:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: How exactly have i been keen on knowing "everyone's roles"? I have been interested in one and only fucking one role in the game. Why are you lying? Ooh. I'm lying? Let's start with this: On August 31 2013 01:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: vayne if your role is not useful any more i guess you can just claim it so we can deduce if you are telling the truth or not. I wasn't even pursuing him for his role, and you said this when he was about to tell it. This was BEFORE he told anything about his role. How can you call a role not useful when it's still secret and no-one knows it? You clearly wanted to know his role, and this is back in the game when you thought he was scum. After that, you've considered him "totally town". How come? | ||
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What's that sound? Oh yes... it's the little scumworms, squirming for their lives as I'm about to crush them under my feet. | ||
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On September 04 2013 11:12 VayneAuthority wrote: because I said it wasn't useful anymore with people suspecting me einstein. this guy is a moron LOL. don't even bother rayn Ooh, both protecting each other? Bussing into (fake?) roleclaim into buddying? Looks very likely. Let's assume a situation where you are town and your role is exactly what you claimed it is. 1) Why on earth would you reveal it for something so little? 2) How does suspicions on you make the role any worse? Oh wait, they don't. At that point you were nowhere near being lynched, I had barely started to pressure you when you totally threw the towel and gave in. Claiming a role of your kind gives you a free excuse for any situations. 1) Scum would not want to shoot you during the night, since there would be 2 KP usable that may hit them. 2) Town would not want to shoot you since using KP on town is not optimal, and at early stages of the game there are higher chances of misfiring. 3) After a claim like that, the best option for scum would be to try and get you lynched, unless they felt very confident and would be sure you'd use your KP on townies or that they could redirect it. 4) Town is unlikely to lynch someone that roleclaims something with risks involved. They would not want to lynch you, unless you seemed extremely scummy since you could still end up dying via night actions, and the KP could end up hitting scum. And what was the result after Vayne's claim? He has been left alone by almost everyone. You should believe me when I say that this is scum trying to squirm out of a bad situation he got himself into. The only one that has pressured you constantly and hard is me, with the recent addition of geript before his death. geript who flipped town, and me who has played pro-town the entire game can hardly be called a scum motive trying to get you killed. Conclusion: Vayne is scum and needs to be lynched D3. | ||
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Oatsmaster VayneAuthority raynpelikoneet Scum will have a hard choice to make tonight, if they'll try to kill me or not. They know I'm onto them and will pressure them hard, but killing me will make the situation look even worse for them, as they've all tried blatant OMGUS on me. Play smart fellow townies, I have trust in thee. | ||
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On September 04 2013 11:15 raynpelikoneet wrote: yeah i do not bother. Yep. You got caught, and you're just trying to sidestep the issue because you can't talk yourself out of it. Just like Vayne & Oats have been doing. Too bad that this should be obvious enough for the rest of the town now, they won't hesitate voting on you for any longer. You all scum will die. | ||
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On September 04 2013 11:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: I will make sure this is the quote everyone remembers when me and vayne flip. I will make damn sure you feel bad and wrong because you have no fucking idea what you are talking about. That being said i am not sure about Oats. I'm glad you're starting to accept the fact you're going to be dying already. As to put things in your way, why does Vayne's roleclaim make him town? | ||
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On September 04 2013 11:45 VayneAuthority wrote: he's delusional, he actually thinks scum are considering shooting him tonight when he's completely useless. and with that good night! sweet case that revolves entirely around my role btw. That obviously worked with geript I have many other reasons to vote for you than your role, but it's one of the most obvious ones anyone can see. As for geript, I never pushed him for his role, you should know that since you've tried to look my filter for stuff you could blame me for, I know you have. And I ended up reading geript correctly in the end. Keep trying to belittle my play and ignore me, because that's the only chance you've got. But it won't work. You've already lost. | ||
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On September 04 2013 12:18 VayneAuthority wrote: yea thats it. one might think my game is over understand that its just beginning here's one last chance to state your case an opportunity if you will very inconclusive evidence you have provided thus far even alakaslam cannot understand it. do not think for a second or even fully believe that the whole town agrees with anything you might nominate to lynch surely you can do better? you can make us see the light? Because now I only see incoherent babbling and delightfully bad accusations remember this when the bell tolls for our own... you might want to consider looking elsewhere if you are to find scum. Is this where I'm supposed to reply with something of equal intelligence such as "your mum probably reads this for you every night?" Yeah. Play the game. You're not being very subtle. | ||
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On September 07 2013 09:25 VisceraEyes wrote: Anyway I still think we should lynch debears tomorrow. Just throwin that out there. Do you want to die that badly? :3 | ||
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On September 08 2013 04:42 Clarity_nl wrote: Do I have to like, do anything, btw? Or is agreeing enough? There is one thing I'd request from you tomorrow in that case. | ||
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On September 08 2013 05:35 WaveofShadow wrote: Cephiro weren't we supposed to be doing something? Yup, we are. You will receive your instructions in time. | ||
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On September 08 2013 05:47 austinmcc wrote: CEPHIRO, How do you feel about Zentor? His D1/D2 filter is a whole lot of geript being scum, people connected to geript/felkyr voting being scum or not, and then not much else. Scummy on oats, towny on slam, more or less absent over D3. You have something going on right now, but do you have particular reason to believe MrZ is kosher? Reading his filter, the thing that really pops is a half-discussion you guys had and then some comments from him about how you know he's town. I...I dunno, assuming that based on all this talk your alignment may be clear tomorrow, and you hopped to slam late, so, without revealing anything secret, you actually comfortable with MrZ? I am comfortable with him, yes. The daypost will clear out a lot of things. On September 08 2013 05:47 Risen wrote: So I'm supposed to believe that a town Cephiro is organizing things in public during the night and not expecting to get straight merc'd during the night? For real? Same goes with austin. Jokes. It is very possible I'm dead by the daypost. That however won't prevent me from telling what I did for what reasons and what is left to finish. The thing is, I'm giving it all I got tonight and involves others much more than myself, so there's not really anything I expect scum to be able to do about it. | ||
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On September 08 2013 05:58 Risen wrote: So you're organizing something that simply required the person's consent. Who the fuck is going to say no? Why not stay quiet and do things in the shadows if you're town and simply tell your strongest town reads they've been recruited. Scum or bad here we go. You will see why soon enough. And no, it is not just about the consent. | ||
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On September 08 2013 09:29 cakepie wrote: Cool, do you take responsibility for Oats or Vayne as well? Yes, I shot Oats. Unfortunately that was a townkill. | ||
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On September 08 2013 09:31 HiroPro wrote: Can I do what I want or is there a plan I have to follow? I would appriciate if you let me make the call on the target. | ||
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On September 08 2013 09:50 WaveofShadow wrote: So I take it I'm not actually involved in your plan, ceph? Also Shiao lied to me about his mason ability; I guessed right away that it was going to be KP on someone he masoned but he told me it wasn't. He thought I was scum D1 so I figured that's why he masoned me. Anyway gg Shiao. We talked a little more before he died---he asked me about Coag and I told him hed be a solid vig shot but I've never seen him play scum. In a way you were. I was fairly sure that scum would think I'm just bullshitting with all my talk, and that they'd try to force a mislynch on me later on, but I didn't want to take risks with handing out certain items so I wanted a few persons to "get in the plan", just in case they would have figured and tried to prevent me from handing them out, or killing the persons receiving them. (More targets = Smaller chance of interrupting) I'm not sure whether they tried or not, but it was merely an extra precaution taken. Thank you for that. Everything went just as expected, luckily. | ||
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Zentor & Rayn, waiting for your answers. Hiro, please refrain from using the item until I call a target | ||
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On September 08 2013 21:19 AxleGreaser wrote: You are trying to get lynched aren't you? You want to lynch a town vig? Are you out of your mind? And no, I have my reasons to call for the usage instantly. | ||
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On September 08 2013 21:55 AxleGreaser wrote: No / Frequently / Just making sure you understand how bad instant without good reasons look if you miss. Ah yes, I understand that. However, a town vig has to take risks sometimes. I know my reasoning, but I am not going to reveal it unless Hiro performs the action on the target of my choice. After that is done, I will. If I miss, so be it, but I am only trying for town's best. I already missed once, but I already hit once as well. Could be doing worse. Even if I don't hit scum, you should focus on finding them instead of wondering why I shot person X. (I'm town, that fact ain't changing no matter how much we talk about it so it's pointless.) No point in wasting time with that, rather move along and find the next target instead. | ||
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What will happen: Zentor flips at nightpost (at the same time as lynch.) Why I called it on Zentor: I know he was some sort of rolecop since he called my role very early on. His reactions to me defending him were what ticked me off in his play, but I didn't want to reveal that yet. Considering that he just happily continued doing nothing and providing no results and rode onwards as I protected him, it made me more confident that he may very well be scum. Now it has gone on for long enough. I am suspecting that he may be the 3P in the QT (Stutters mentioned something about someone calling out his role correctly.) If he's town, then my bad for picking a bad target. However, I think most of you aren't very disappointed with my choice. We'll see what he flips. Until then, Zentor, you could go ahead and provide us with anything you can if you are actually town. Hiro, since you are the one killing Zentor you will gain his item. I want you to use it the following night. | ||
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On September 09 2013 02:07 MrZentor wrote: If you had asked, I could have proven myself to be a townie. You still could. Sometimes, rash actions have to be taken. If you are indeed town, my apologies, but brave plays have to be made. | ||
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On September 09 2013 02:14 AxleGreaser wrote: SO do you care to explain why it had to be without warning? Think. Thiiiiiink. | ||
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On September 09 2013 02:49 MrZentor wrote: By roleblocking everybody. How does roleblocking everyone = Town? | ||
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On September 09 2013 03:08 Clarity_nl wrote: Or Hiro I guess, I'm not sure what they did I'm assuming cephiro gave hiro the crusher? Correct. Whatever the result, I take responsibility. | ||
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On September 09 2013 03:10 HiroPro wrote: I don't really understand why people think rayn is town just because he claimed a pokemon trainer. ^ I agree with this. | ||
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On September 09 2013 03:15 Clarity_nl wrote: Well, pokemon are clearly dying? If someone other than rayn knew anything about it AND THEY WERE TOWN they would have come forward by now. So they are scum, which makes rayn town? Unless you think rayn is playing pokemon trainer with himself? Or how about he's a scum pokemon trainer when there is no other pokemon trainer in the game? Maybe a pokemon faints every time he uses an ability? Who says there is a good and a bad pokemon trainer? | ||
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@Zentor: To ensure the kill. You've done close to nothing for town this game. If I had started asking you before, you could have come up with all kinds of schenanigans to try and explain yourself, in the worst case effectively wasting most of the time we've got available to decide on a lynch. This way we'll see what you flip and can concentrate on someone else that seems scummy for the lynch. Your reactions to my actions are saying quite a bit though. You're not telling us anything. If I was going to die in 24 hours with no way of communicating after, I'd share every single piece of information I'd have. You've done nothing of the kind, and you're just questioning my action. Questioning my actions won't change what happened, and it's pointless to go on about it. If you're town, tell us what you've got, and if you're scum you can just leave instead of wasting our time. | ||
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If Zentor isn't going to put any effort in reading others or explaining what he has been doing the whole game (actions/role?), I'll just confirm that as a scum-kill and ignore him. I'm disappointed randombum hasn't come and defended himself at all yet. | ||
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On September 09 2013 03:40 Risen wrote: Every town member in this game who has read my recent posting is incompetent. You could just say whom you are talking about instead of making us going through a zillion posts. I certainly don't remember who claimed to have a greencheck on you. | ||
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On September 09 2013 03:50 Risen wrote: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/D6UQaRG.png) Tyvm! Not that I consider that as a green-check claim (Like I doubt people considered my defense of Zentor earlier a cop check?), but it's still a good point to raise. | ||
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On September 09 2013 04:03 Risen wrote: However, I am a man of my word. ##vote: MrZentor You do realize we can just lynch you too if you decide to be anti-town? | ||
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On September 09 2013 04:05 Risen wrote: I'm not anti-town, and I just gave you guys the clear lynch. You do you while I do me. Voting for something totally useless makes it harder for us to gain majority. That is anti-town. As much as I dislike rayn's play so far, I wouldn't go as far as calling him a clear lynch at the moment. Do you have anything more to provide on him? | ||
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On September 09 2013 04:06 Clarity_nl wrote: What happened to finding out rolenames that DONT exist, like you were describing in closed casket? You also said "accidentally roleblocked myself" and now you're saying it's random? So much inconsistency. Check the bolded. Anyway, I don't think he's speaking the truth. (+ Hero of Time -> Some of us including him got sent into a game in the past?) He could be Link but I don't believe those are his real abilities. Stutters & austin, would you like to tell us a bit more about what you are trying to achieve? | ||
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On September 09 2013 05:01 raynpelikoneet wrote: yeah WoS is scum. You've said that to almost everyone accusing you, yet you're the one still alive after countless townie flips. Is he scum because he accuses you, or do you have some other reasoning? | ||
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On September 09 2013 05:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: First of all me being alive is not a reason for me being scum. The rest of the post makes no sense and i useless speculation. There is not a single reason why i am scum. If we kill the mafia pokemon dude, i become pretty much confirmed town. There is not a single reason why should i have claimed as scum. There is not a single reason why the other guy would be town. The suggestion that "rayn is playing with the hosts" is absurd and dumb. Mafia can't NK me, because doing that does not kill me until all my pokemons are dead. They need to lynch me. That's why they try to lynch me. I am not here "doing nothing". Just because i don't make big posts with townreads and shit does not mean i am scum. If there is a mafia pokemon dude other than yourself, that is. There are perfectly viable reasons why you could've claimed as scum. And I like this addition that you can't be NKed... very convinient, wouldn't you say? | ||
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On September 09 2013 05:24 raynpelikoneet wrote: Also do not forget about Austin. I almost did. On September 09 2013 04:10 Cephiro wrote: Stutters & austin, would you like to tell us a bit more about what you are trying to achieve? I really don't like the way you're defending yourself and trying to divert attention. All your defense is based on your role and the existence of this scum pokemon trainer. You haven't tried to point out if you've been useful or not at all, you're concentrating on your counterpart way too much. It's like you don't care about anything but him. Why shouldn't you try to hunt other scum as well, considering that it seems you have no clue about this scum pokemon trainer you claim there is? | ||
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On September 09 2013 06:29 randombum wrote: Could somebody who wants to lynch me/hear from me actually ask some questions? If you are simply waiting to hear what I have to say in general then just wait a bit more for now. Are you about to act which is why we need to wait, or are you finishing a bigger write-up and reading through filters still? At the moment I'm personally wanting to hear from you in general, and THEN ask you for questions if I find necessary. | ||
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On September 09 2013 06:40 Stutters695 wrote: So who all is down for lynching Rayn? I know the other pokemon role and I think they're way more likely town. Well, random and rayn are my top two lynch targets for a while now, but I'm not getting on this wagon before I hear more. So you're confirming another pokemon role exists? | ||
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There is also a very small possibility (highly unlikely, but never rule out a sick play in mafia), that stutters/rayn are both scum/3p/a mix of the above, and are playing to get rayn towncred by claiming there is this other pokemon dude that never even comes out. Very unlikely, but possible. | ||
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On September 09 2013 09:47 randombum wrote: Anyways, since clarity asked, other reads. Zentor is super scummy looking to me, but he's going to flip anyways so let's leave it at that. There's something super fishy going on between zentor/hiro/ceph. Ceph has been all buddy buddy with zentor all game except now he wants to day vig him. Like I don't understand why somebody would day kill somebody they have been defending without warning and the person told to actually does it. These three are even fishier because all three of them wanted to vote me in casket for nothing essentially, but when they saw the other four people were not going to do it happening they abandoned ship pretty fast. I don't think anybody else is really worth mentioning at the moment since they are not likely lynch targets unless stutters' reveal is crazy. On September 09 2013 01:33 Cephiro wrote: Why I called it on Zentor: I know he was some sort of rolecop since he called my role very early on. His reactions to me defending him were what ticked me off in his play, but I didn't want to reveal that yet. Considering that he just happily continued doing nothing and providing no results and rode onwards as I protected him, it made me more confident that he may very well be scum. Now it has gone on for long enough. I am suspecting that he may be the 3P in the QT (Stutters mentioned something about someone calling out his role correctly.) TL;DR: His play since I called him townie ticked me off very quickly, but I didn't want him to find out about my suspicions so I continued defending him so I could pull all this shit off. | ||
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My list of targets in order: 1. Stutters695 2. randombum 3. raynpelikoneet 4. austinmcc | ||
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I want stutters dead unless the name of this claimed-to-be pokemon trainer is revealed. As CC just mentioned, it is extremely anti-town to not reveal this information. | ||
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1. There is either one or two. Either this recently claimed trainer doesn't exist and rayn is scum, or then it exists and rayn is town. 2. Why would they be on the same side? At most I can see 2 x 3P pokemon trainers but that is incredibly unlikely. 3. Because obviously he's not playing vs the hosts, and if I recall right rayn claimed something about it reading in his role PM that there would be another pokemon trainer. This obviously gives us the conclusion that either he speaks bullshit and is scum or then this other trainer exists. | ||
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On September 10 2013 04:40 austinmcc wrote: Ceph...post How about you read instead. I said I'm still re-reading through the last 10 pages to make sure I miss nothing, yet you guys keep spamming more useless shit here. I also mentioned if there's something you need/want quickly and shortly replied on, I could do that. A question: Is there a green check or something on debears that I haven't heard of, I don't understand why everyone seems to consider him a confirmed townie and ignore him after the nirvana strike earlier? | ||
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On September 10 2013 05:16 austinmcc wrote: Cephiro, specific question. Why give Zentor an item if you want him dead? This is answered in my upcoming response, I will quote a part of it: "2. I wanted to hear what Zentor claimed to do N3, as well as his reaction to using my item. Knowing what item I gave him, his reaction doesn't make any sense. Scales tipped over in favour of shooting him, so I wanted Hiro to kill him. Explaining my item giving more in-detail: If I ended up deciding Zentor was scum: HiroPro would kill Zentor with the crusher and thus gain the item, enabling my plan to continue as I wanted it to. (Unless Hiro & Zentor both wanted to disobey / fuck me up, then that would've sucked big time.) If I ended up deciding Zentor was town: HiroPro would have used the crusher on another target of my choice, and Zentor would have used the other item and lived on happily. I considered outcomes, and decided that the risk of worst-case scenario was small enough for the profits to be worth it." | ||
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On September 10 2013 05:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: Now how does this mess with your plan? I should tell you because? I don't understand why you are constantly trying to get everyone to claim their roles and reveal what they do. It's like you want every single piece of information to be all in the open (at least those of your choice), which I can't understand why someone would do that as town. It's not making you look good in my eyes at all. | ||
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On September 10 2013 05:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: Because pretty much everyone has claimed their roles already. You are saying we should not lynch one of the main candidates because of "Cephiro's plan is ruined", you don't want to tell the plan, you are not giving us nothing. That is pro-town right? I see that me, clarity, random, hiro, felkyr and axlegreaser have not claimed roles. That's more than a third of the remaining players. I'm not telling you the plan because I don't want scum messing with it. I fail to see how that is pro-town? Obviously my actions so far have been quite pro-town, no? I've given town all I've could so far, and I'm trying to give more, yet you want that not to happen? I don't see why Hiro is one of the main candidates anyway. | ||
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On September 09 2013 23:18 WaveofShadow wrote: Cephiro, did your plan hinge on Hiro being town in order to work, or is it possible for you to have simply given a nuke to scum to use on another townie? I find it extremely unlikely that he is scum and used it on a townie. We'll see what Zentor flips soon enough, although I'm fairly certain it will be red. There are reasons I took this risk which I won't delve further into, but by the way he acted and used it to my request, I think I played my cards fairly well. On September 10 2013 00:14 Stutters695 wrote: 3p is town for all intents and purposes unless we determine they're wincon revolves around killing. I do not agree with the above statement. On September 10 2013 00:54 Clarity_nl wrote: Cephiro why give the crusher to hiro instead of using it yourself? Think about the most obvious reason you wouldn't use a KP given to you. (Hint: I couldn't use it. The amount of facepalm was strong.) I cba to put all the formatting right so I will respond like this. 1. Why I did not use the crusher myself was simply because I couldn't. (As said above.) 2. I wanted to hear what Zentor claimed to do N3, as well as his reaction to using my item. Knowing what item I gave him, his reaction doesn't make any sense. Scales tipped over in favour of shooting him, so I wanted Hiro to kill him. Explaining my item giving more in-detail: If I ended up deciding Zentor was scum: HiroPro would kill Zentor with the crusher and thus gain the item, enabling my plan to continue as I wanted it to. (Unless Hiro & Zentor both wanted to disobey / fuck me up, then that would've sucked big time.) If I ended up deciding Zentor was town: HiroPro would have used the crusher on another target of my choice, and Zentor would have used the other item and lived on happily. I considered outcomes, and decided that the risk of worst-case scenario was small enough for the profits to be worth it. 3. No N1 shot because I could not shoot N1. 4. I couldn't even get Oats or Vayne lynched as much as I pushed for them, why would the scum shoot someone that is of no threat? Of course they wouldn't know my abilities, and I think they were just counting on saving me for a later mislynch. But I will confirm I have not been informed of a single roleblock, shot, or protection on me. On September 10 2013 01:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: Cephiro can you confirm this? What did Hiro do on N1? I have not the slightest idea. I doubt anyone but himself knows. About my plan: Most of it has been done, but I won't go into details about what will still happen. One thing I can share which anyone already knows by reading, Hiro will gain item X by killing Zentor, and I want him to use it N4. About my role: I could not shoot on N1. I will not claim anything further about my role. General stuff: Why all the rolefishing? Caught up pretty much. At the moment I would most preferably lynch Axle. | ||
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On September 10 2013 05:54 randombum wrote: Ceph, can you clarify something for me, you gave a kp to hiro under the assumption he would do what you said? Do you have 100% faith hiro is town? Yup. He was my most certain townread at that time, so obviously I would give the kp to him. I am 99.9% certain he is town or pro-town 3P. | ||
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On September 10 2013 06:00 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay Cephiro's plan makes no fucking sense. In case Hiro is scum and Zentor is town scum just nuked a townie and got another item and Cephiro is the one to blame. Yup. That is indeed the case. Would you like to suggest a better way of action I could have gone with? | ||
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On September 10 2013 06:06 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay, sorry Risen for losing my temper, but you are not helping atm. Cephiro why do you have such a strong town read on Hiro? I know his play certainly hasn't been the most pro-town, but I still see posts that are aimed for the best of town every once a while. He seemed like someone I could trust to do what I wanted, and he did exactly that. (And I'm expecting him to continue as I instructed.) Sure, he could be scum that is just owning me like a fool, but I think once Zentor flips we'll see more into that. If Zentor flips scum as I assume he will, it is extremely unlikely for Hiro to be scum (although it still is an possibility.) At the moment I am believing him very much to be town, with the small possibility of being some kind of 3P playing pro-town or town-wincon. | ||
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On September 10 2013 06:07 austinmcc wrote: (1) Not giving items to people you think might be scum - We're in a big themed game. We've already had someone RESURRECT. Your plan, if Zentor was scum, was to have someone openly announce in the thread that they were going to kill him at the end of the cycle. If Zentor was scum and a vet, if scum had another dayvig, if scum had a roleblock during day, if scum had all sorts of stuff, then EVEN IF Zentor was scum, your plan ends up with him having an item when he otherwise wouldn't. As mentioned before, I took a calculated risk. Just like I did with my N2 and N3 shots. One hit town, one hit scum. You can't be afraid of using what you can unless it is extremely likely to backfire. I found this plan most likely to succeed. I could have given item X to someone else than Zentor, yes. But giving this item to Zentor gave me a much further read onto him depending on his reaction. I could have tried to find some other townread to give it to, but it wouldn't have got me the results I wanted. | ||
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On September 10 2013 06:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay so, Cephiro, what is the follow up for the plan? Another kill? As mentioned before, I am not revealing the follow-up. A lot of things will happen sooner or later. | ||
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First of all, he did instantly just as I wanted. Second of all, if they were both scum, they'd have two powerful items they could have used against town, which is not a bad option either. We'll be seeing the flip soon enough and it should tell us quite a bit. | ||
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![[image loading]](http://static.quickmeme.com/media/social/qm.gif) I can't describe my feelings with words alone. Obviously I must have shot one scumbuddy, gave items to two others, just so that the second one could kill the third one with that item. | ||
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On September 10 2013 06:28 Risen wrote: Expand on that, please. You're the distant third scum read I have right now, and it's only because I can't fathom town Cephiro being so incompetent. Under your assumption the scumteam is Cephiro/MrZentor/HiroPro: So you're saying that I would have shot Coagulation (scum), given two items publicly to 2 other scum teammates, only to tell HiroPro to kill Zentor with the item, to gain them both, thus leaving only me and HiroPro alive with one item. #YOLO #BestScumPlayEver I'm not going further into this topic, I hope you understand how retarded that is. If you consider me a smart player, and like most people here know I'm better as scum than town, I think you can see I'd never do that if I was scum. | ||
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On September 10 2013 06:40 austinmcc wrote: Wat? How do you know who Koshi gave items to? Did I miss something? .... I CAN'T EVEN BELIEVE THIS SHIT. Because I got the Crusher from him, according to his role the other person should be right next to me. READ FOR GOD'S SAKE. I don't understand how you bring that theory up but won't even think it through. Either he gave it to just me (which I assume to be correct), or then the other scenario I told above. | ||
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On September 10 2013 06:43 HiroPro wrote: What are we doing Ceph? I'd say go for Axle lynch. Rayn is sitting in the line waiting next. | ||
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On September 10 2013 06:43 austinmcc wrote: I read the bolded and forgot about the specific targets bit Aight, sorry if I seemed a bit heated up. These super what-the-fuck theories that make no sense and divert the discussion just make me go all jackie-chan wtf are these people doing. Do that randombum shooting stuff to confirm if he's town or not tonight, and we'll lynch Axle or rayn. | ||
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On September 10 2013 06:44 Clarity_nl wrote: If his claim is true you'll kill a pokemon and give scum powers... -_- I forgot he has an retarded amount of lives. Nevermind then, not worth it. | ||
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I'd rather take a more certain kill on someone than risk wasting a KP just on killing some town pokemon and give scum a power in the worst case scenario. For all I know the mechanics he describes seem pretty legit but I'm not seeing him as pro-town currently. If lynch is the only way to kill him properly, so be it. | ||
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Because he's one of the three persons I don't have enough information on. (Clarity, Axle, randombum). Randombum thing would be cleared with the proposed Cell plan, and I'm not willing to lynch Clarity, which leaves Axle. There are several players whose actions will tell more than enough in the upcoming cycle. I wouldn't mind killing rayn at all but for now I'm still slightly believing that possibility he might be just town playing horribly. | ||
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On September 10 2013 06:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why do you not want to lynch the other people who want to lynch your best buddy ever Cephiro? Because I don't do retarded OMGUS. I can see why many of you think Hiro hasn't played town enough, in my eyes he has. I'm not going to start killing unrelevant 3P or possible townies for that. I'd rather concentrate my attention on the people I'm worried about. | ||
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On September 10 2013 06:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why do you not want to lynch the other people who want to lynch your best buddy ever Cephiro? Why do you spend time on retarded questions like this to divert the attention from more useful discussion? | ||
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On September 10 2013 06:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: Because i think your plan is dumb and i think Hiro is scum. Maybe you are right but your plan is still dumb. That does not relate at all to your question. Why are you speaking such bullshit? Your question had nothing to with my plan, nor did it have anything to do with you thinking Hiro is scum. Your question: On September 10 2013 06:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why do you not want to lynch the other people who want to lynch your best buddy ever Cephiro? How it relates to your reply above: NOT AT ALL Stop the useless crap. | ||
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If you want to ruin the follow-up, sure, go and vote for Hiro and help the scum. I might as well shoot myself if you're that hopeless then. -_- The amount of frustration and facepalms being had is incredibly high. | ||
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2) Axlegreaser lynch will give us a lot of information. Even in the worst-case scenario that he flips town, we can make a lot out of the connections he's had with other players, and the players who have defended/accused him. 3) I'll solidate on a claimed 3P lynch if nothing else, since killing a 3P (especially survivors who could very well be playing for mafia), is not anti-town in my eyes. A non pro-town 3P is equal to scum. | ||
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On September 10 2013 07:09 raynpelikoneet wrote: Your only reason for seeing Hiro as town is "because i say so". If you are so sure he is town quote the posts of his where he seems town to you. His alignment has nothing to do with your plan and his willingness to follow it. It has nothing to do with Zentor's alignment. All you got it "because of some good posts of his". Show me the posts. His alignment has to do with my plan. Who the fuck are you to say anything about my plan when you barely know a part of it? I've been able to trust him and he hasn't let me down once. You're again just wasting time with this useless shit. + Show Spoiler + On August 31 2013 07:44 HiroPro wrote: I think geript has no idea what he's doing (yes I'm well aware that he's played a number of games). He's seen other people do nothing, antagonize other players in the games, yet not be lynched and thinks that he can do the same. The post where he claims "unlynchable" strikes me in the same vein - it's a joke post just designed to annoy. I don't see anything about his play that suggests specifically that he's mafia other than that he hasn't attempted to scumhunt in any manner (which can honestly be said about half the thread). Furthermore, BH's play right now is striking me as very opportunistic: This post in particular appears very suspicious. There's no evidence to indicate that BH had any prior suspicion of geript and he doesn't even attempt to offer any sort of reason for lynching geript. Think about this carefully - what's the first reaction that a town player would likely have when they see someone claim "unlynchable". They'd either think that it's a ludicrous claim or they'd start wondering why someone would claim this (as either alignment). Why is BH's first response to simply just throw down a vote? Why is he so quick to abandon a case on Cephiro that has some sort of reasoning to just blindly go "he said to vote him, LET'S DO IT!" Think about what I said earlier about BH's play (if you haven't read my earlier post on him, go back and do it, think about what I'm saying, read between the lines, and don't just go "oh he's roleplaying, guess I should ignore him"). Be Strong. Be Brown. Vote BH. On August 31 2013 08:04 HiroPro wrote: Because neither of you have actually voted for geript, haven't completely abandoned your big case on someone else, and haven't struck me as suspicious before this? Come on clarity, think -_- On August 31 2013 08:14 HiroPro wrote: I'd rather not reveal stuff like this right now. For obvious reasons. On September 01 2013 02:54 HiroPro wrote: But strong, don't you know? It's not about what you say, it's about how many posts you make! At this point geript is probably vengeful or something. Or he just is doing whatever he feels like because he can. /shrug As far as I see it right now, we're either going to end up with a nolynch or a geript lynch. I don't the case on Felkyr is very strong at all. Could be town, could be mafia. but again no real reason to kill him over others. Zentor is a vig shot - you know this. + Show Spoiler + On September 01 2013 08:28 HiroPro wrote: Because Blazinghand is almost certainly mafia and viscera is very likely mafia also. His power is obviously not a negative effect as he's openly requesting people to vote for him and doesn't seem concerned about backlash. Giving them any benefit/power is just dumb. On September 01 2013 09:17 HiroPro wrote: role!=alignment. The fact that he can rig votes doesn't tell you anything about his alignment, especially not in a game like this -_- On September 02 2013 11:05 HiroPro wrote: /yawn. I could quote stuff, but I'm feeling lazy so I'll leave it at this. I'm fairly certain that cakepie is mafia based on the way that he goes after his vote targets. He doesn't seem to be interested in looking for mafia but instead goes after players on fairly inconsequential things. On day 1, he goes after alakaslam on the assertion that he's useless even if town and randomly decides to announce that he's pressure voting Felkyr. These are fairly "safe" classic mafia votes; there's no pressure to provide actual valid reasoning with these types of votes. Even now in his push on me he never attempts to explain why any of my actions or behavior are mafia-motivated. For example, what's the purpose of trying to dissuade Axlegreaser from using his power if I'm mafia and know that it won't matter as the wagon gets changed? It's also important to note that not once has cakepie offered any sort of opinion on geript's alignment. What town player does this? There is no town motivation in completely avoiding the major issue of this game. geript has been the major lynch target since almost the middle of day 1 and yet cakepie hasn't said a word about what he thinks geript's alignment may be? For the record, the reason I knew about the player list being important is that I played in the Aperture 2: Portal mafia game, nothing to do with my role. As for my "knowing" that BH would die day 1, simple logic: nobody chooses to get themselves lynched unless they have the ability to do something with it. ##Vote cakepie On September 04 2013 03:37 HiroPro wrote: We should be lynching the people who get called mafia but dont actually have any votes on them not the people who get piled on with nobody giving a damn -_- this is probably the only reason that hassy might be town. The argument about whether or not he didnt send in an action is irrelevant since the only thing he can do as mafia is try that tactic. Can anyone point to a single thing all game long that Risen has done to make them think he's town or actually contribute in any way? He's perfectly capable of putting in effort and being useful( unlike some of these other do-nothings). Multiple players have called him suspicious yet not a single vote has actually gone on him. This doesn't strike anyone else as suspicious? If we're not going to lynch obviousone (which doesnt seem likely) i'll back a risen lynch. Actually you know what... go fucking read it yourself. There's a lot of posts that make me think he's town, I'm not gonna copy-paste them all for you. | ||
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On September 10 2013 07:13 randombum wrote: Ceph, I think you are trying too hard for your plan and big plays to work out and not seeing what everyone else is seeing. Like you want this plan to work so hard you are assuming that zenor have to be scum and hiro has to be town. There's not much else in hiro's play that really points him as town. I mean even this day when he's becoming a major lynch target all he is doing is sheeping you. There are a lot of pro-town posts he has, people are just choosing to ignore them and sheep and want the easy mislynch. Of course I am assuming zentor is scum and hiro is town, I would not have tried this if that was not the case. HOWEVER, I HAVE AT NO POINT STOPPED CONSIDERING OTHER OPTIONS ARE VIABLE AS WELL. All you people seem to think is "Lol someone said Hiro is scum, I think so too, let's lynch him." On September 10 2013 07:17 raynpelikoneet wrote: 1) So if he is scum he get's it. Then what? Can we roleblock him? Is it so bad if scum gets it we lose? Is it so bad we lose if Zentor and Axle flip town? 2) You don't lynch for information, you lynch to kill scum. 3) Kill scum, then worry about 3p's. Who are those 3p's whose claims are fishy? I think all seem legit. 1. If Hiro is scum, then he's played really well and with that item we may be a little more or a little less fucked. 2. You don't lynch to kill town either. 3. It doesn't necessarily have to be a fishy 3P claim to be one playing anti-town. Why do you think survivor = Town? | ||
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Stop the tunneling and take the red glasses off and read his posts with proper content with some thought, instead of assuming everything he does is from a scum perspective. This Hiro tunneling is happening way too easily, it's bullshit. | ||
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On September 10 2013 07:32 MrZentor wrote: I'll vote for whomever you want me to. Go and vote for rayn then my lovely scumbuddy. -_- If these town people actually fall for that crap of yours, I promise you I'm shooting myself on N4. This is so rage-inducing I can't stand it. | ||
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AFK for one hour, I can't stand this shit anymore. Pull your heads out of your asses and don't sheep the easy wagon. | ||
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On September 10 2013 07:36 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Still kind of itchy on the Hiro lynch dudes. How do people read Axle as town besides a bunch of generic "It looks like he's figuring out the game" =| Thank you god, there are still people with brains in this thread. | ||
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On September 10 2013 07:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: But the truth is your vote has never been useful in lynches. You did never ever in any day take a clear stance on who to lynch. The only time you have done so was when you saved mafia!Alakaslam from getting lynched and lynched town!Hassybaby. All other votes of yours have been on candidates that have never been even close to getting lynched. Everyone look at the fucking voting thread if you don't believe me. On September 04 2013 09:00 GreYMisT wrote: Day 2 Lynch MrZentor (0): HiroPro (1): cakepie (0): ShiaoPi (0): Alakaslam (8): Koshi, Clarity_nl, Mr. Cheesecake, VayneAuthority, Risen, Hassybaby, austinmcc, Cephiro geript (8): raynpelikoneet, Alakaslam, cakepie, WaveofShadow, randombum, Stutters695, Oatsmaster, kitaman27 (0): Oatsmaster (0): Felkyr (1): Onegu Hassybaby (8): kitaman27, strongandbig, Coagulation, AxleGreaser, ShiaoPi, Felkyr, debears, geript, HiroPro ObviousOne (0): Risen (0): The lynch will happen in on Wednesday, Sep 04 12:00am GMT (GMT+00:00). It is a double lynch and the top two vote getters will be lynched. You can only vote for one person, though. Let me know if I missed something or made a mistake. Remember that only votes in the voting thread count and voting is required. At the moment, geript and Hassybaby are set to be lynched! On September 07 2013 08:42 Crossfire99 wrote: Day 3 Lynch Austinmcc (0): Coagulation (0): Felkyr (0): ObviousOne (7): debears (6): ObviousOne, raynpelikoneet, VisceraEyes, Coagulation, Felkyr, Clarity_nl, The lynch will happen in at Saturday, Sep 07 12:00am GMT (GMT+00:00). You may now only vote for either debears or ObviousOne. With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch. Let me know if I missed something or made a mistake. Remember that only votes in the voting thread count and voting is required. Alakaslam is being modkilled and will flip with the night post. Dem townie wagons. | ||
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On September 10 2013 08:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: You are really bad at analyzing voting patterns if you are saying i look worse from D2 lynch than Hiro. Also D3 tells shit because you were having a tea party and didn't really need to take a responsibility (by voting) from the lynch. From a neutral point of view, D2 you both look just as bad. D3 you look bad, Hiro as nothing since we did a nolynch. What I'm saying is, I find it funny that you're blaming Hiro for his D2 vote when yours is just as horrible. | ||
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On September 10 2013 08:13 HiroPro wrote: Vote for me if I'm getting lynched, then you can distribute the item again tonight, k? That's a very small chance for me to get it, but sure. We still have 45 mins to try and prevent you from getting lynched though... I hope they'll realize in time. | ||
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On September 10 2013 08:24 raynpelikoneet wrote: At least i get to call Cephiro bad if we lose because of this.. Haha, I'll give that. If Hiro really is scum, then they've royally assfucked me hard. But I'd say even then I've been doing decently. I am willing to be the scapegoat for town if we lose. Someone must stand responsible. Let's make this happen! | ||
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On September 10 2013 08:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: I would have hoped you would have waited one night so i could have told you Oats' alignment before shooting him. How useless i ever am i know what he is at last on D3. Well, that night my other options for target were you and Vayne... if you're town, then that wouldn't have been much better. But hey, at least I got Coag, and hopefully in 30 mins we'll see a scum Zentor flip. 2 scum kills is quite good imo. | ||
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On September 10 2013 08:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: I would not have flipped and i could have saved town!Oats. :/ I'll keep in mind in a future game we play together with you, me & Oats that you have this "certain read" on him at D3.  | ||
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Let us join hands and rejoice![/QUOTE] *Holds hands and jumps out of joy, all that headache turns out worth the effort* | ||
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On September 10 2013 08:47 MrZentor wrote: Clarity, he clearly wasn't getting lynched, was he? I mean considering what we know now. Happy birthday scum, even though it's not the 10th yet there. :3 Totally offtopic: We've had like 3 persons have their birthdays during this game at least I think? Funny. | ||
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On September 10 2013 09:01 cakepie wrote: I was planning to have at least half an hour before the lynch, but meeting dragged long and I have no idea what's going on in here >.< You kind of missed the deadline. | ||
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Anyway god fucking damnit. -_- Screw you Koshi.(Unless it was random.) Royal motherfucking assfuck. -_- | ||
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On September 10 2013 11:06 austinmcc wrote: (1) You gave the D6 to Zentor...to see how he'd use it? (2) You were waiting to see about his actions N3 before crushing him D4. I assume if he'd used it we would have known, which means he didn't use it, which means....you had hiro crush Zentor because he...did NOT use the D6? (3) Why would you give the D6 away period? 1) To see his reaction about receiving the item. 2) Items are gained at the end of the night period. This particular item is also used during the night period, and will take effect after actions and item activations. 3) Because I couldn't use it myself (believe it or not, there are pro-town qualities about it.) | ||
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On September 10 2013 23:55 Stutters695 wrote: So what did you learn Ceph? Nothing that I didn't already know of? Worst-case scenarios can happen. | ||
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On September 11 2013 04:41 MrZentor wrote: Cephiro, what should I do with this item? Use it or lose it. | ||
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Tried some funky stuff and some of it worked nicely, some not, haha. Oh well, I guess it wasn't too terrible for my return game, considering my last one was way over a year ago. Back to mafia it is! | ||
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