Oh yes indeed. Because smart people are those, whom hand out guns to random strangers without knowing what they'll do with it? I hope you're going to get serious at some point.

Cephiro

Finland1934 Posts

August 30 2013 04:06 GMT

#411

On August 30 2013 12:57 geript wrote:
Why don't you think my push on slam is serious?

Because...

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On August 30 2013 09:22 geript wrote:
Slam is scum. Like 1000%.

On August 30 2013 09:55 geript wrote:
Nah he scum. Already got my red check on him. Rayn is scum w/ him.

On August 30 2013 10:05 geript wrote:
Here's my case:
Slam trolling all wrong. Scum.

Where is my prize?

On August 30 2013 11:45 geript wrote:
Yah slam scum. Night night guys

The above is extremely convincing. Looks super serious. "He trolls so he is scum. Like 1000%"
The fact that you even call that a push is weird in my opinion.

Cephiro

Finland1934 Posts

August 30 2013 04:21 GMT

#415

On August 30 2013 13:18 geript wrote:

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L2R
My argument isn't that he's trolling, it's that he's trolling wrong for him.

Read between the lines.

Trolling wrong, trolling right
Trolling left, trolling all night

Or not trolling at all.
Why do you care?

Cephiro

Finland1934 Posts

August 30 2013 04:25 GMT

#417

On August 30 2013 13:21 geript wrote:
Why you trying to intentionally get the argument wrong to protect him Ceph?

Now you're just pathetically trying to get at something that does not exist. Could you elaborate the difference between "trolling" and "trolling wrong"?

Or maybe I'm just stupid. Maybe.

Cephiro

Finland1934 Posts

August 30 2013 04:28 GMT

#419

On August 30 2013 13:26 geript wrote:
Yes I could. No I won't. You wouldn't understand the differences unless you had a good understanding of him.

If you're going into the territory of "meta", by trying to say that "that's not how he usually trolls / that's not his town-trolling", you shouldn't even play Mafia.

Or is this the point where I accuse you of trying undermine me and my intelligence by false claims and giving you an out, not having to explain yourself?

Cephiro

Finland1934 Posts

August 30 2013 04:40 GMT

#422

@geript

Also, even if you assume a person wouldn't understand this difference you are talking about, why would you not try to explain it to them? If you're pro-town, you have nothing to lose by explaining why you think someone is scum. But instead, you just decide to sidestep the issue completely.

You're not town, you need to die.

Cephiro

Finland1934 Posts

August 30 2013 16:14 GMT

#724

Alrighty. It seems like there has been some interesting discussion going on. I very strongly think that unless the situation is extremely favourable for town, everyone except town should be killed. What I mean is, different 3rd parties are just as good as scum to me.

geript
Needs to be killed. Keeps begging for gun, has listed several people he would like to kill without proper reasoning. If he's town, he needs to step up and become serious. In my opinion, he hasn't shown any intent of playing pro-town. He tries to make some kind of contact with almost everyone, yet it's all non-committing.

yamato77
A general bad vibe. Flip-flops on WaveOfShadow. It feels like he's trying to establish a connection without content, as he doesn't want it to be a raised issue.
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On August 30 2013 22:31 yamato77 wrote:
Calm down, WoS. I just told you I'm not that interested in you atm.

It is impossible to say for sure yet, but a possibility is that he's trying to create a false sense of communication with a scumbuddy. There are many times when the scum player can be found not for his connections, but for the lack of them.

VayneAuthority

On August 30 2013 16:09 VayneAuthority wrote:
No I don't think he's scum yet but that he would be a good shot.

This single sentence alone (references to his opinion about me), is enough for me to raise my suspicions. If you're town, why would you want to kill someone that you think isn't scum? Especially without delving further into the matter, or not even mentioning if he thinks I could be a 3rd party? What I feel from this line is fear. And town does not need to fear me.

There is a ton of people flying under the radar at the moment, but for now there isn't very much to do about it. I'll be more than happy to pressure them, but given what we have seen already there are more urgent matters at hand.

@Koshi
May I please have your item? My powers exceed it's. I will forward it to anyone that town wants the next day.

Cephiro

Finland1934 Posts

August 30 2013 16:17 GMT

#728

On August 31 2013 01:16 Koshi wrote:
If it is useless to you I am not going to give it. Then I can just keep it O.o.

It is not useless to me. As my mentioned, my powers are stronger than of the items. I can make good use of it for town. And the item will stay as is.

Cephiro

Finland1934 Posts

August 30 2013 16:37 GMT

#739

On August 31 2013 01:33 VayneAuthority wrote:
cephiro - get softly discredited by multiple people for "caring about the game" when I play differently every game so it's just an excuse to have an opinion. My case is promptly swept under the rug and nobody ever mentions him again until he responds to my post.

On August 30 2013 15:58 VayneAuthority wrote:
Don't like his posting so far. attacking really stupid posts like geript asking for bullets and some guy asking if he can decide the lynch. and the geript lynch just seems predetermined and contrived as opposed to anything that he actually put thought into

If this is your "case", I am not wondering at all why people didn't even bother mentioning it. My name has popped up a few times though, you may want to be a bit more careful with your reading. Looking really bad for you.

Cephiro

Finland1934 Posts

August 30 2013 16:40 GMT

#742

On August 31 2013 01:37 VayneAuthority wrote:
Also I have a very good reason to play very pro-town this game, so get off my nuts ty

already showed in my first post through elegant trickery that i'm not scum

On August 30 2013 14:51 VayneAuthority wrote:
I feel like we have quite a task at hand

A rather large one
May you all be so kind as to cooperate?

Not a single person should step out of line
Or you will feel my wrath in due time
Test my patience if you will, but not my mind.

So let's have a good clean game of fun, whether we are
Crying tears of joy or filled with anger
Under all this talk and banter
May we find peace together.

You keep claiming you are not scum, but you never even mention the thought you could be town. You are clearly a 3rd party afraid of me. Care to elaborate on your reasons to play very pro-town?

Cephiro

Finland1934 Posts

August 30 2013 16:48 GMT

#748

On August 31 2013 01:42 VayneAuthority wrote:

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of course you want to paint me as a third party when you know I'm not actually scum. And revealing my role makes it completely worthless but I'm trying to hint here. its very useful.

See, you're not even trying to deny it. You're clearly NOT TOWN. Unless you provide a very good reason how you are of benefit for the town, you should be killed. Why should we keep anyone not town around otherwise?

The underlined is an interesting reaction. I never called you specifically scum or 3rd party at first, until my latest message. All I said up to that point were my suspicions of you. You could very well be scum, but your responses are screaming "3rd party." And as long as you are anything but town, you should die for all I care.

@VE: To answer your earlier question: I am up for a lurker lynch today if that is the only way we're going to gain majority, but I think we have much better options available we should go for.

Cephiro

Finland1934 Posts

August 30 2013 16:54 GMT

#750

On August 31 2013 01:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What the fuck is with everyone suspecting someone to be third party?
Cephiro, ObviousOne, explain.

I suspect VA to be 3rd party because he constantly mentions how he is not scum, but has at no point tried to establish himself as a townie. He keeps phrasing his words in such manner he at no point claims to be town, yet he constantly denies being scum. You can check some of the quotes I pointed out for yourself.

What is also interesting is that he keeps mentioning his role constantly in his last posts. At no point have I asked for his role or how it works, yet he keeps going for how he does not want to talk about it since it will become useless. I have only asked for his motive to play pro-town.

Conclusion: He has no motive to play pro town, so he's trying to keep up the curtains by trying to make a mystery out of his role, hoping that people will trust him that he can't reveal it's usefulness because otherwise he couldn't use it in a pro-town manner.

Cephiro

Finland1934 Posts

August 30 2013 17:13 GMT

#763

I do still not think he's town. Or then he's just horribly bad. Why?

I was at no point pressuring him for his role, yet he martyred it quite quickly. I see no reason why he should have claimed that.
Even with our current knowledge of his role it is still possible to use it in a pro-town way, if he would be town. (Assuming he does not lie about his ability, which I don't think he does.)

So was the aim of your play to look like a threat so you would be nightkilled? Nothing in your play points me towards that direction. You gave up on yourself so fast after light pressure, why would a townie due that (if not for inexperience?). I think you're just trying to get a free "out-of-jail" card, by claiming to be an useless VT and staying in a little longer for that reason alone. That on the other hand makes me think you are in a faction with multiple players since you'd have no reason to stay in after "giving up" that early otherwise. Whether your faction is pro-town or not I can't say, but it's not town and that's all I care about.