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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22309 Posts
July 30 2013 19:30 GMT
#2489
Wtf I didn't see Onegu's case on TAA at first.
Apologies.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22309 Posts
July 30 2013 19:33 GMT
#2490
That vigi claim is too bad to come from scum.
It's too much wtf to be constructed, and doesn't really seem like scum agenda.

Onegu though it was safe to claim cause he thought TG was town claiming to be roleblocker lol.

Leaves Kirby, Tofu, TG as only possible scum.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22309 Posts
July 30 2013 19:43 GMT
#2492
On July 31 2013 04:34 jrkirby wrote:
Why have you ruled out JJD?


Same reason for why you can rule out me. When the lynch is set in stone, there are people who still try to discuss, figure the game out and adap. Onegu, JJD and me all show that trait. And frankly, I like how JJDagreed with my points and mentioned he's suspcious of Onegu still. It doesn't have to be right, but on top on agreeing he also says who specifically he could find to be scum in addition to TG, and that's townie, cause he's being transparent when as scum he wouldn't really have a reason to be, or to agree with me if you are indeed town.

FT isn't even here since he decided that you and TG are scum.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22309 Posts
July 30 2013 19:44 GMT
#2493
Why do you rule FT out?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22309 Posts
July 30 2013 19:50 GMT
#2496
On July 31 2013 04:47 jrkirby wrote:
Cause I really think there's 4 cops. 3 of them have already died.


That is illogical to assume.
You have absolutely zero guarantee that the host put a fourth cop in there just to "complete the picture".
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22309 Posts
July 30 2013 20:09 GMT
#2499
On July 31 2013 05:04 jrkirby wrote:
There's no guarantee, just a really strong hunch. We're at mylo, and I really think this hunch is my best bet.


I'm trying to judge if you really think TG is town.
May I ask where your read comes from?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22309 Posts
July 30 2013 20:12 GMT
#2500
On July 31 2013 05:07 jrkirby wrote:
I think you're just trying to put suspicion on everyone but scum, cause even if a fluke happens and one of you does get lynched, we're still at mylo and you want to guarantee that the last lynch wont happen.


You seem to have made the decision to have me as scumread a while ago, and show few doubt in this moment.
I'm here, we can talk, if you really think I'm scum then there must be something in my story that isn't straight, no?
That said, what you just posted only has the purpose to put me into a bad light, it's not constructive.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22309 Posts
July 30 2013 21:01 GMT
#2507
On July 31 2013 05:57 jrkirby wrote:
Well, if I can't convice Tofu and onegu to vote vivax, it ain't gonna happen. Right now I'm predicting they'll stay on me till the end, vivax and JJD will hop on sometime before the deadline and then GG will happen.


Lol. U realize we don't have to hop on anything before deadline, cause it's me and JJD on you and not FT and Onegu?
What does FT's claim have anything to do with Ft's claim?It's the same reasoning you use, that there has to be a type of cop of each kind.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22309 Posts
July 30 2013 21:01 GMT
#2508
There we go with the FT fun.

I guess you know what I mean
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22309 Posts
July 30 2013 21:06 GMT
#2509
Meh, I confused shit.
Totally thought we were voting kirby now lol.

JJD, I don't know if I want to stay awake through all of this to cinvince Onegu and Ft to switch to TG since they still aren't here, you think we should risk it and switch back to kirby?

This exchange right now didn't leave me with a good feeling on him at all.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22309 Posts
July 30 2013 21:14 GMT
#2510
Hey, look at this guys.

On July 24 2013 07:16 FirmTofu wrote:
Wait, so let me get this straight. getmoript and Corazon are both claiming cop?

Are people told whether they are naive/paranoid/sane/insane when they receive their roles?
How useful is a cop's accusation when we cannot trust their sanity?

I don't think lynching TAA based solely on getmoript's claim is the best course of action. If we think TAA is scummy AND we have getmoript's claim to back it up, I don't mind lynching him.

Back to scumhunting. I'm going to ignore the cop claims for now because in NW, I tried to setup speculate and that fucked me over. I don't want to simply assume that two cops can't exist.

My scumreads are TG, jrkirby, and TAA.

TG claimed he was roleblocked. This is not alignment indicative. He was scummy yesterday and nothing has changed to sway my opinion in the other direction.

I will talk more about jrkirby and TAA in a few additional posts.



Our claimed cop who got green on TAA says that town should not lynch TAA purely based on getmo's cop claim, but still lists him among his scumreads.

Bullshit detected.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22309 Posts
July 30 2013 21:18 GMT
#2512
Oh wait he actually corrected it.

On July 24 2013 07:45 FirmTofu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 07:22 getmoript wrote:
On July 24 2013 07:16 FirmTofu wrote:
I don't think lynching TAA based solely on getmoript's claim is the best course of action. If we think TAA is scummy AND we have getmoript's claim to back it up, I don't mind lynching him.

Ok I'm with you...

My scumreads are TG, jrkirby, and TAA.

What in the actual fuck?

Sorry, I meant CDG not TAA. These acronyms are confusing the fuck out of me.


Now go through his filter and see for yourself if he had cDg, the cop who just claimed, as suspect earlier. I don't find anything of the sort.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22309 Posts
July 30 2013 21:22 GMT
#2514
It's a hard knot to unwind.

Basically, Tofu knew two townies were claiming cop at the same time, during that moment. If he didn't, then I would assume this quote would actually free him from all accusations:

On July 24 2013 07:56 FirmTofu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 07:54 getmoript wrote:
On July 24 2013 07:52 FirmTofu wrote:
While I think getmoript may be lying about his claim, I think he is more likely to be a VT pushing a strong scum read in TAA.

Explain this right now.

I think it's possible that you are VT claiming cop in order to push your strongest scumread. Am I right?


But on the other hand, if scum got fakeclaims, then they also knew there were sanities in the game.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22309 Posts
July 30 2013 21:24 GMT
#2515
On July 24 2013 07:57 FirmTofu wrote:
If anyone has any questions, feel free to ask. If you want me to vote for anyone other than TG or jrkirby today, you're going to have to make a really solid case against them and convince me.


This, on the other hand, makes him look a lot better.

Might not be bad to take the leap of faith and vote kirby at this point, cause so far him and TG seem to be the most likely combo.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22309 Posts
July 30 2013 21:28 GMT
#2517
On July 31 2013 06:26 jrkirby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2013 06:01 Vivax wrote:
On July 31 2013 05:57 jrkirby wrote:
Well, if I can't convice Tofu and onegu to vote vivax, it ain't gonna happen. Right now I'm predicting they'll stay on me till the end, vivax and JJD will hop on sometime before the deadline and then GG will happen.


Lol. U realize we don't have to hop on anything before deadline, cause it's me and JJD on you and not FT and Onegu?
What does FT's claim have anything to do with Ft's claim?It's the same reasoning you use, that there has to be a type of cop of each kind.


What? Tofu and Onegu are currently voting for me, right?

Also, Tofu's claim is more believable since it came before 5t said "We probably have 4 cops."


Ok, I think this is something I can fry you on cause it could be confirmation bias from a scum knowing that FT is town.

Can you explain to me exactly how that is supposed to make Tofu's claim more credible?
Are you saying that it would have been less credible if it came afterwards?Why?
Would it be more credible if no one claimed after him? Why?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22309 Posts
July 30 2013 21:36 GMT
#2519
The biggest mindfuck in this game is that a jrkirby scum means two scum somehow managed to leave TG alive D1.
I'm not sure if I really want to believe that it makes TG autoscum any more.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22309 Posts
July 30 2013 21:37 GMT
#2520
Anyway, I switched back to kirby.
I'm actually not feeling confident into my JJD read like that until I've read all of his filter.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22309 Posts
July 30 2013 21:42 GMT
#2521
I'll think about the possibility of a scum JJD more thoroughly once kirby is dead and if he hopefully flips scum.
Gn
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22309 Posts
July 31 2013 09:19 GMT
#2638
I'm sick of scum doing tactical replacements, really sick, especially since smurf mafia.
I'd actually like if only 1 replacement for scum was allowed for each game, and only for good reasons.

Onegu and JJD still played very well. That Onegu vig claim was the shit Wifom-wise, and he simply looked A LOT like a townie who didn't know how to play vig, plus the fact that he did not have to claim, and JJD blended in very well.
The guy who got me to push discussion in the first place durnig the last day was Onegu, and the guy responding was mainly JJD, that already says a lot.

gg to scum
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22309 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-31 09:30:44
July 31 2013 09:28 GMT
#2640
On July 31 2013 18:23 geript wrote:
Vivax... JJD did not blend well. He was caught, he just killed his snoop. With how much JJD was pushing behind you instead of pushing for his own reasons should've been a good tell. C'mon man.


I realized how absent he was through most of the game, but I decided already that one of kirby/TG had to be scum.
Then I thought, "well if he's scum maybe he's agreeing on pushing TG cause kriby is his scumbuddy". So I went back to kirby and told myself that I'd look at JJD if kirby flipped scum.

I didn't look yet, vut did I even have a chance at convincing FT and TG to switch to JJD?They weren't in the thread at the moment I left.

Thanks for hosting anyways
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