EPTA Bluelightz Mafia "The Attack"
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On July 21 2013 02:46 Zephirdd wrote: god fucking damnit bluelightz, starting the game on the day i have the worst hangover since... yesterday. my head hurts a lot. why are there so many hydras here? it's hard to put up with this. Hopefully I'm not insane from all of this. 5touch, is this a pressure vote, a joke vote, or do you actually mean it? | ||
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 I think Corazon is an interesting point to start with, in my humble yet uninformed opinion (but we're heading into PMland) Welcome, getmoript to A Bluelightz Mafia, where you hopefully will save Blueville from destruction at the hands of the Redvillians. You, as a Detective, have special equipment to discover the dubious loyalty of other citizens. Beware, your equipment may be defective and give you fake results! On July 24 2013 06:29 cDgCorazon wrote: My pm didn't say I was a rolecop specifically. It just says I was an investigator, it wasn't specific on whether I was alignment based or role based. Anyway, off to read moar. | ||
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Do we know if scum got fakeclaims or anything? | ||
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On July 27 2013 18:27 Onegu wrote: We have only killed one scum so far, he claimed roleblocker and was scum roleblocker. I have claimed vigi and missed my shot last night. Cora and getmoript have both claimed detective. Getmoripts flip confirmed him as detective. If I get it right, Cora, the claimed DT, is still alive after claiming D2? TG should probably be lynched just for this: On July 22 2013 15:03 phagga wrote: [/blue]VOTE COUNT: getmoript (1) JarJarDrinks (0) TheAwesomeAll (0) FirmTofu (2) raynpelikoneet, Oatsmaster (1) TanGeng (6) FirmTofu, getmoript, austinmcc, FiveTouch, JarJarDrinks, Oatsmaster Not Voting: (2) Zephirdd, DoctorHelvetica With 12 alive, 7 are required to lynch. Noone is lynched! If you see your vote (or anyone else') out of place please inform me or someone else on the hosting team so that we can correct it. | ||
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Peace out. | ||
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Well, sucks that I have to tell you that, but town DrH texts people to death Day 1. This doesn't look like town DrH. I think I'd rather start with TG anyway, that doesn't sit right with me how scum apparently spared him a lynch D1. What do you think about kirby, cora and TG, Onegu? | ||
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If you left something unmentioned you know of, I'd be glad if you added it now. | ||
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On July 26 2013 10:40 Onegu wrote: Actually I am more likely to shoot jrkirby atm but thier death posts I liked JrKirbys better. On July 26 2013 10:19 Onegu wrote: Good morning blueville, so for me at this point is jkirby and TG, I dont like TG's post above, I 4rlz dont think austin is scum. And Im null on Firm now. He has kirby as null slightly town which is odd to me. Jrkirby post was a little better someone had a problem with it but IDK looked ok to me. Also, you found TG scummy back then, but now he's "null but townie" in your list. Can you explain what's going on there? Null but townie TG FIRM | ||
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You thought he was scum for reason x -> He posted that post, let's call it y -> You thought he was townier than Oats for post y -> Oats died -> Post y doesn't matter any more, kirby scum for reason x I presume reason x was this: There is just so much filler in jrkirbys posts, day one into day two he just tunnels oats, which is fine as I was scum on oats when I came in day 2, but he is really slow to switch onto TAA. N2 he has his best post in my opinion, which is why I didnt shoot him. He only has 4 pages of filter where him being here since day 1 is really bad. | ||
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On July 27 2013 20:09 FiveTouch wrote: Just one more note on Cora, and this is to Firm especially. Presumably Corazon would be claiming to save his scumbuddy, TAA. There's a couple things to note about that. 1) he's going head to head with getmoript, someone already viewed as significantly more townie than Corazon. Already the chances of winning that battle are pretty small 2) EVEN if he did win that battle, getmoript gets lynched and flips detective. But then that gives away *both* TAA and Corazon. The net of it being that even in the *best case* scenario for Corazon, he's trading 1 townie for 2 mafia. Seems terribly unlikely, no? And yet, TAA flipped, getmoript flipped, and Corazon isn't auto-scum for it in the eyes of everyone, which proves it to be less suicidal than you're trying to portray it. Also, I'm not scum marvelbabe, considering that, who would be your alternative read if you take that at face value. Do you think DrH's D1 play was townie, do you think ALL of scum was on TG's wagon and didn't manage to get him lynched, and that the ones not voting him were townies simply too careless to get to a D1 lynch? | ||
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I think TG should be lynched for the reason that he was spared by scum D1 imo (DrH-probable and TAA-confirmed). I'm not sure if there are three or four scum in this game, in any case, I think TG and Onegu should be lynched next. I am also suspicious of jkirby and Cora. The push jkirby->shoot Oats thing->back to kirby by Onegu and his strange development of his "reads" (town->scum on austin; town->scum on kirby;scum->town on TG, and all of that overnight) make me think of a bus and that he's scum. | ||
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On July 28 2013 06:13 FirmTofu wrote: vivax, are you out there? Can you vote today? Do you think TG/Cora is a likely scum team? Why or why not? I posted the part I found iffy about Cora's claim alreadz. I also voted, TG. Kirby does look odd and I found him mainly scummy for his position on the TAA wagon, if he is though, then he has been bussed, which fits into the way the DrH slot played, first push him, find a reason to shoot someone else, then push him again. I don't find DrH's slots' reasons for his read 180s very credible. Your DT checks tell us nothing, DT should have stayed silent until he had a chance to check somebody else he was sure of being town. Now we don't know if he's insane or paranoid. Thing is though, Cora's claim timing was scummy and looked like it was designed to save TAA, again, sub-optimal play for a DT to claim in that situation in any case. He should have kept the role secret and watched how the flip went, and then adjust his scumreads accordingly without using his role as a reason, but meh, doesn't really matter anymore. That leads us to Cora still being alive after his claim, I don't know his checks atm, but I've gotten from the thread that he's supposedly sane?That leads us to the question why scum would leave him alive then. Cause of that, I'd probably not lynch him today and consider him for lynch if he survives another night and depending on the check he returns. Lucky for us, he can't claim RB. As conclusion, I stick to the opinion that we should lynch TG for being alive after D1, I'm suspicious of DrH's behavior during that day, and anyone not wanting to lynch TGis banking on the fact that a flipped scum somehow missed the deadline, and not just that, cause TG's lynch wasn't exactly last minute shit. Question: Who replaced Zephirdd? I didn't like his last post during D1. | ||
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On July 24 2013 06:22 cDgCorazon wrote: I'm pretty sure I'm sane. I checked myself to check for sanity and it said I came back a "detective" so I'm guessing I must be sane. A few things about you, Cora. - You claim you have a role PM where you don't know if you're rolecop or alignment cop. Getmoript had one that suggested alignment. - In a rolecop PM, you have the sanity comment, which doesn't fit. - When you get back detective as result, you say getmoript is lying for claiming ALIGNMENT cop, when you knew you were ROLECOP, but say there can't be two sane cops and hence getmo is scum. Can you explain this part to me, cause either it was really awful play or your claim is purposeful bs. | ||
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On July 28 2013 07:02 cDgCorazon wrote: My role pm is the same as Getmoript's and the hosts basically said that I couldn't check myself for sanity and they just gave me back a non-alignment check (investiagtor worded exactly like that). So I said I was a role cop. Then I checked TG and then it came back as Town. The hosts basically screwed me over, and if you want to lynch me I will blame them. That's cool and all, but it still doesn't answer the question why you claimed that geript was lying about being an alignment cop when at the time you had to believe you were a rolecop, making getmo's cop claim not as incredible as you claim you thought it was. Like, I understand you can't answer it, cause the point makes you look like scum regardless, but it's a valid point in arguing that you actually just fakeclaimed to save TAA. Other than that, I'm curious to hear from your mouth that you think that TG wasn't lynched only cause scum played badly or was afk. | ||
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I'm going for a case by case approach (didn't read the whole game chronologically) and focusing on the parts I find most interesting, and the results of the phases. In all of that, FT didn't have a place in my scumspect list. I don't think he's as worthy of my attention as you and my other scumspects are. That said, I didn't read him fully focused yet, and probably won't do it until you, Cora, DrH's slot give me reason to think you're town. If he's town, he'll probably get killed pretty soon anyway since he claimed DT. As opposed to Cora... | ||
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If you're town, calm down and tell me how likely you think that the scumteam is TG/Onegu/Kirby, cause if you're town and assuming there's so many scum, that's my conclusion with my current knowledge and suspects, and there is no reason for you to start capsraging at me for being suspicious of a claim that has multiple issues. | ||
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Reading through your filter, I actually see you saying that you're surprised TG hasn't been lynched yet, then you barely mention him and instead go vote Oats to "get the asshole out of the game". So yeah, maybe you should actually remember you didn't write a good, summarized post where you write why TG is scum, only posts where you question his rb claim, where you call his case terrible, and where you say he should have been lynched, that's what I find in your filter. Overall, your TG push actually looks like bollocks that could fit into the "bus" category. | ||
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On July 23 2013 05:04 cDgCorazon wrote: Ok so I read everyone's filter and I've come up with a few opinions: -TG should've been lynched D1. Like seriously. His game has been ridiculously scummy and he should've been lynched for it. -Getmoript needs to stop arguing with everyone. While I applaud them for posting a lot and trying to move things forward, they are borderline creating chaos in the game. I'm leaning a bit towards scum with them, but I need to see more because Geript is playing very rash and emotional while WoS is being more moderate and even-keel. -DrH did cause a no-lynch so I think that should against him, but he should not be instantly beheaded for it. That being said, I really do want to hear more from him. -Everyone has been too spammy in their posts, and there has not been enough analysis. Only 2 or 3 players have been providing good analysis on a constant basis. In an environment like this, scum are going to thrive. Everyone needs to step up so scum have nowhere to hide. If anyone wants opinions on specific things, just ask. On July 23 2013 22:15 cDgCorazon wrote: In all honesty, the TanGeng RB claim doesn't really add up for me. Was there something in his filter that screamed blue to mafia? You guys are writing him off as town just because he got RB'd, which is really silly. I could see a scum TG claiming to be RB'd in order to try and make up for a really shitty game he has played so far. Onegu's claim is really dumb as well. I'm not entirely sure what we can do about it though. If he is vigi, we really shouldn't lynch him because he is important to the town. On the other hand, if he isn't scum he should die N2. It's really a good thing for town that he claimed because if he dies tonight we see his flip, but if he doesn't he is probably scum. Oats hasn't done much this game, and if people want to lynch him, I'd be on board with that. On July 23 2013 22:49 cDgCorazon wrote: ##Vote: Oatsmaster Lets get this asshole out of the game and actually get somewhere. So you went from someone being ridiculously scummy and with a suspicious claim to lynching people for not doing much. Seems legit. | ||
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I've explained my TG read and I've explained my other reads. The fact that you think that my proposed scumteam is TG/Onegu/Kirby basically says to me that you have not read my filter and that you are making an uninformed and therefore bad attack on me. Actually, that's my proposed scumteam, not yours. Anyway, I'm all ears and would like to see where you explained your TG read. My current knowledge is that townies like to talk about their scumreads, and don't have much trouble remembering their reasons for suspecting them. | ||
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