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On July 03 2013 10:04 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2013 09:55 WaveofShadow wrote:On July 03 2013 09:49 gumshoe wrote:On July 03 2013 09:30 Oatsmaster wrote:On July 03 2013 09:28 marvellosity wrote:
Who cares if they did? How is it relevant? because then it doesnt matter as much if the fakeclaimer died because they wont lose KP anyway. This is a MAIN POINT in your defence that its too risky and not enough benefit for scum to claim. WoS, who is most likely for being scum out of the blue claimers? BECAUSE Im thinking its you for just claiming and fucking off without even mentioning ANYBODY. Wos has now claimed second to last with no green townie spots remaining, he likely waited to see what was left and took the final blue spot thinking hed have a better chance fighting two to three blues then he would a single townie or convincing town hes survivor. Furthermore we pretty much KNOW for a fact Vivax is blue because a) A kp was blocked. b) the only other way a kp could be blocked is by survivor, and no one has claimed survivor. C) Vivak's claim was too quick to just be opportunistic and has not been counter claimed. Considering all these factors I can only conceive of two believable possibilities, a) Scum witheld kp so that Vivak could claim vet(would be so godamm awesome) b) Vivak is telling the truth. Vivak is 99.99999 percent vet. Which leaves me Lazer and WOS whose claim I didn't believe even before he made it. Also why block or hold WOS? What has he done to make himself look blue? Wos is asking us to believe two incredibly farfetched things. 1) He just happened to be last claim. 2) He was role blocked? meh and meh. Also why was Lazer not shot if he is detective? Was scum content role blocking him? I've already gone into why I think they'res little harm in keeping me around. At the moment I find WOS to be so scummy he actually eclipses Marv. Oh and good god Jar Jar are we agreeing on something? Perhaps you reavaluate your read immediately. ##Vote WOS I didn't wait, I got home and claimed immediately. I mentioned I was going to be gone much earlier on in the day and I even asked people if they wanted to wait until I showed up to claim so something exactly like this wouldn't happen. I would have had no problem claiming first if I just so happened to be around. Ok let me remove the fluff. TLDR. You are asking me essentially to believe Lazer is scum, because I know Vivax is town or shiit is messed up. You are asking me to believe you got role blocked despite your play in no way being indicative of blue. And you are asking me to believe you just happened to claim the last blue spot. In light of your spotty town history I'm just not buying it / : in fact your claim just makes me believe Lazer might be town.
Spotty town history? lol show me gumshoe, after all you've talked about me so much this game!
Oats you're going to have to tear me off this guy.
Oats if you don't think we should be lynching into the blues do you think as far as fake greens it's the miller claims (ie marv and future fuba probs)?
If host gave out a bunch of fakeclaims so scum would be safe I feel like it wouldn't have been that they got both millers and that there aren't any, do you?
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Gumshoe reading your post again what the ACTUAL fuck?
How exactly does a blue play that you would expect me to? I'm curious.
And not that it means much but I actually breadcrumbed what I'd be doing tonight. I didn't think it was a very good one at all (because I'm usually real shit at breadcrumbing) but it's possible it was picked up on.
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On July 03 2013 05:50 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2013 05:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 03 2013 05:43 WaveofShadow wrote:On July 03 2013 05:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
WoS what do you think of Lazer's hard-defence on marv and him rejection to interact with you? I think it's scummy as fuck but I've had problems with this kind of play before. Vayne's play in I Swear for example, in which he played like shit and really scummy but he claimed cop real early and we were forced to believe him. Turns out he really was the cop. To me it seems more likely that Lazer's claim is real. Hell, if you're negating the possibility of fakeclaims why wouldn't you agree with me? If anything a fakeclaim makes the idea that Lazer's claim is fake MORE likely! I am not negating the the possibility of fakeclaim in this particular situation. I am not sure Lazer is scum and that's why i wanted to question him as much as possible. His answers and his defence on marv make no sense, because whether or not he is real cop marv's post about doubting his claim makes zero sense from town PoV. He should be the one most suspicious of marv because he thinks from a cop-PoV. Keep in mind that if marv is not hiding in scum QT atm, he is away, and scum need to defend him in case of vigi shot. This I can get behind.It seems a little at odds with your thinking earlier today but whatever. What do you make of Fuba's latest post-and-fuck-off?
There's no way scum picked up on this, it's so fucking terrible. I was too afraid to be any more obvious than this though because I really wanted to get my shot off. Maybe I did blueslip somewhere? If I did I'm not aware of it.
Gumshoe I addressed all of your points. I'd still like to hear how exactly you expected me to play 'blue-er'
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On July 03 2013 10:26 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2013 05:50 WaveofShadow wrote:On July 03 2013 05:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 03 2013 05:43 WaveofShadow wrote:On July 03 2013 05:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
WoS what do you think of Lazer's hard-defence on marv and him rejection to interact with you? I think it's scummy as fuck but I've had problems with this kind of play before. Vayne's play in I Swear for example, in which he played like shit and really scummy but he claimed cop real early and we were forced to believe him. Turns out he really was the cop. To me it seems more likely that Lazer's claim is real. Hell, if you're negating the possibility of fakeclaims why wouldn't you agree with me? If anything a fakeclaim makes the idea that Lazer's claim is fake MORE likely! I am not negating the the possibility of fakeclaim in this particular situation. I am not sure Lazer is scum and that's why i wanted to question him as much as possible. His answers and his defence on marv make no sense, because whether or not he is real cop marv's post about doubting his claim makes zero sense from town PoV. He should be the one most suspicious of marv because he thinks from a cop-PoV. Keep in mind that if marv is not hiding in scum QT atm, he is away, and scum need to defend him in case of vigi shot. This I can get behind.It seems a little at odds with your thinking earlier today but whatever. What do you make of Fuba's latest post-and-fuck-off? There's no way scum picked up on this, it's so fucking terrible. I was too afraid to be any more obvious than this though because I really wanted to get my shot off. Maybe I did blueslip somewhere? If I did I'm not aware of it. Gumshoe I addressed all of your points. I'd still like to hear how exactly you expected me to play 'blue-er'
HAY GUMSHOE
THE BOLDED PLZ
I also like how the best arguments you're coming up with right now is shit that is literally days old despite the fact that I've probably posted just as much since I came back from my absence. Like the French? That's one of your arguments? Really?
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On July 03 2013 10:49 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2013 10:47 Oatsmaster wrote:On July 03 2013 10:45 gumshoe wrote:On July 03 2013 10:42 Oatsmaster wrote:On July 03 2013 10:41 gumshoe wrote:On July 03 2013 10:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
OH YEHA RAYN IS DEAD. LLOOOL man im really bad at this.
Yes. You were wrong, arrogant and blind before. And yet your acting the same way now. Your either not playing your best game or your scum and Im done trying to explain 1 plus 1 to you. its hard to keep track of kills man. We are not killing WoS today. Next candidate? Until Fuba comments it's me or him(unless he doesnt, in which case him). And if its me it's also him and then I hope it's you. um what? Im asking who you want to kill. what is the last sentence saying? Im saying either I die or Wos dies, unless Fuba gets somehow even more suspicious(he hasn't claimed a role yet). Also I'm willing to go because I'm take WOS with me as well
Lol and if somehow we're both town then you take the game with you as well lolololol
Dat tunnelvision
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I'll be back later on after my guy's first nightfeed.
Oats for the record I think your original idea made the most sense but now I don't know what to do about the hole gumshoe has climbed into. We should at least start looking into which of the greens are the most scummy and then we can decide later on if it makes more sense to lynch blue or green. (It might make more sense to lynch blue due to simple probability but as you said it might work itself out through N2 actions so I'm not sure.)
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Welp I'm on baby duty today so you guys don't get me until much later.
It's a shame you all want to lynch me because I control this game right now. It's strange, I feel extremely powerful and yet powerless all at the same time. When I come back I think it's time to flip the game around again.
You guys can fuck about all day and try to figure stuff out. I'm sure one of you is smart enough to get it.
Have fun ladies!
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Phoneposting atm
awww nobody wants to react to my posting
makes me sad
Town:
Im dead anyway so I honestly couldnt care less if you guys want to hand the game to scum but id seriously consider hearing me out when the time comes
scumteam:
you forced me into this when I was trying to be all nice to you. i suppose you didnt have a choice considering fuba had to claim late and might have been lynched today especially if he took the miller claim but now you can be damn sure ill push for it.
that is of course unless town doesnt care about what i have to say in which case the games is yours gentlmen
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so nice not to have to lie anymore. hell i didnt even lie this much when i was scum
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On July 04 2013 01:36 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2013 01:32 WaveofShadow wrote:
Phoneposting atm
awww nobody wants to react to my posting
makes me sad
Town:
Im dead anyway so I honestly couldnt care less if you guys want to hand the game to scum but id seriously consider hearing me out when the time comes
scumteam:
you forced me into this when I was trying to be all nice to you. i suppose you didnt have a choice considering fuba had to claim late and might have been lynched today especially if he took the miller claim but now you can be damn sure ill push for it.
that is of course unless town doesnt care about what i have to say in which case the games is yours gentlmen Could really do with you explaining your terribad shot on me if you're town, dear.
oh im not.
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On July 04 2013 01:41 marvellosity wrote:
Seems he's claiming survivor.
I'll wait until later and hear his explanations out. As a token of good faith:
##unvote
no marv by all means lynch me cause im terrible
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later tonight
im not sure what info i should give you though because theres a chance i might still be able to live even though scum apparently want me dead
ill think about it
now time to clean up barf off the couch
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On July 04 2013 01:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
WoS is scum.
only scum do this shit.
then lynch me breh
On July 04 2013 01:46 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2013 01:44 WaveofShadow wrote:
later tonight
im not sure what info i should give you though because theres a chance i might still be able to live even though scum apparently want me dead
ill think about it
now time to clean up barf off the couch all of it else you die, given we now have two guaranteed non-town lynches (you and fuba)
oh shit dem threats. if you dont kill me scum does so i honestly dont give a fuck i just have to decide who i want to give the game to basically
byeeeeeeee
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See scum?
Look at what I do for you, I shut down discussion, and this is how you repay me?
Shameful, sirs.
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Don't you worry marv.
All will be revealed in time.
Well...most will be revealed.
A lady has to keep some of her beauty secrets, after all.
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Oh and I suppose while we're at it, a lady does need to stay alive, too.
##Unvote
##Vote: fuba dooba
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On July 04 2013 06:14 marvellosity wrote:
I can't tell which way I'm being played >.<
>.>
kinda enjoying it in a perverted kinda way though :>
That's the spirit.
Embrace the fun.
Since I won't be able to do any big explanations until after Masterchef tonight (8 EST, 7 Central!) I'll drop some stuff here and there when I get the chance cuz fun.
Marv I didn't shoot you yesterday.
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lolol ok for reals.
I like gumshoe's explanation. He's mostly got it I think aside from a few motivational things.
I think I remember you asking marv that it would be dumb for mafia to target me/they should be killing town so why wouldI be afraid of them?
Remember that I do have a town-favoured role that could intensely fuck them over should I choose to side with you guys.
I'll leave it at that for now.
I wonder if fuba is going to bother coming back to try to counter-counterclaim and tell 'his side of the story' or some shit or whether the scumteam is just gonna leave him up shit's creek without a paddle.
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On July 04 2013 06:28 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2013 06:09 marvellosity wrote:
hey gumshoe. So WoS claimed vigilante who tried to shoot me, right?
That means he's going to be exposed as a liar sooner rather than later, given he's not actually going to be able to shoot anyone.
This means two things
a) he's going to be exposed as a liar
b) by claiming vigilante he's making himself a night-target.
No? This is the mind fuck right here. Assuming he cant know if hes was blocked by maifa. This is all encompassing play. Hes trying to give the impression he was blocked by actual survivor XD in order to try and convince mafia he has a guardian angel. If mafia did block him. They still have to maybe come to terms with the idea that hes not survivor and that real survivor is out there, with the potential to protect him because hes supposedly blue. If they didn't then they have to assume hes either lying or Landa protected him. If they assume hes lying what do they care, hes casting doubt on the blues and throwing town into disarray. It's really quite brilliant. The problem as I mentioned is town itself not willing to accept his crazy story. I feel WOS thought he could swing it and didn't count on being chosen as scum over Lazer. He also probably counted on scums support persecuting Lazer and defending him... Which I feel he got. Oh and if they feel hes telling the truth then they have to role block him and target Landa. He may also have powers we are unaware of. Point is they're is something going on here, even if we dont know what we have to accept that it exists. Comparatively they're is nothing happening over on Fubas side. Also I dont think he believed that scum would take survivor.
Pretty much right aside from some (important) minor details.
The survivor claim blindsided me as you can see, my posting during the claims indicated I assumed fuba would simply be fucked because he'd be forced to grab the last miller spot. Instead mafia decided to pit me against him since he was under suspicion anyway on a gamble that I'd be more suspicious and they'd keep the extra KP.
They gambled poorly in my opinion. Essentially they lose fuba one day early and lose the extra KP making it easier for you guys now; had you lynched me THEN lynched fuba you'd be lost at LYLO because you have no idea where to go next.
I'd like to think them losing a KP means I'm safe, but yeah....JK is a good role toi have.
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K gotta go for reals now, super duper explanation later on.
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