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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 20:33 GMT
#1060
So your suggestion is that marv decided to look into vayne 30 min before the assumed deadline instead of looking into town's suspects because you did think he is scummy but didn't even make a case (which i btw confronted you at that time if you remember). Seems legit-
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 20:37 GMT
#1063
Also Lazer, i don't know why you need to be so defencive about marv?
Talk with WoS instead, i am interested in seeing what you guys talk about. He asked you a question already.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 20:39 GMT
#1065
On July 03 2013 05:36 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2013 05:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So your suggestion is that marv decided to look into vayne 30 min before the assumed deadline instead of looking into town's suspects because you did think he is scummy but didn't even make a case (which i btw confronted you at that time if you remember). Seems legit-
No, Im suggesting marv looked into Vayne 90 minutes before the suggested deadline instead of town's suspects. Whether he did that because of my posts or not, I don't know. I don't get why me not having a case against Vayne at the point is relevant? Alot of people get lynched without having a case on them. Or how are you defining a cse?

Everyone assumed the deadline was (or at least thought it's possible that it was) one hour before it was, including you, because you claimed 4min before the assumed deadline. Don't try to bullshit here.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 20:40 GMT
#1066
WoS what do you think of Lazer's hard-defence on marv and him rejection to interact with you?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 20:47 GMT
#1069
On July 03 2013 05:43 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2013 05:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
WoS what do you think of Lazer's hard-defence on marv and him rejection to interact with you?

I think it's scummy as fuck but I've had problems with this kind of play before. Vayne's play in I Swear for example, in which he played like shit and really scummy but he claimed cop real early and we were forced to believe him.
Turns out he really was the cop.

To me it seems more likely that Lazer's claim is real. Hell, if you're negating the possibility of fakeclaims why wouldn't you agree with me? If anything a fakeclaim makes the idea that Lazer's claim is fake MORE likely!

I am not negating the the possibility of fakeclaim in this particular situation. I am not sure Lazer is scum and that's why i wanted to question him as much as possible. His answers and his defence on marv make no sense, because whether or not he is real cop marv's post about doubting his claim makes zero sense from town PoV. He should be the one most suspicious of marv because he thinks from a cop-PoV.

Keep in mind that if marv is not hiding in scum QT atm, he is away, and scum need to defend him in case of vigi shot.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 20:49 GMT
#1070
Vayne is different player than Lazer and i remember Vivax (or someone) saying Lazer's scumplay is good.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 20:52 GMT
#1074
I dunno about Fuba, he might be scum. You guys can figure out that later after you've lynched marv. ^^

Is Lazer's townplay bad? I have never played with him.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 20:54 GMT
#1076
I was abit concerned about Vivax but i am not any more. His interactions with marv are really genuine, especially on N1 when they talk about possible roles. Also he is suspicious of Lazer's claim.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 20:57 GMT
#1079
On July 03 2013 05:53 mkfuba07 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2013 04:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Fuba why is WoS not mafia?

He seemed to have the same reaction as we did to marv's claim. Though he disagrees that marv's practically guaranteed scum, he does agree that it's likely. What made you think that I was leaning town on him? I didn't think I'd actually mentioned it.

I wasn't thinking so. I wanted to push you to disagree on the town-part or agree with it. Do you think he is town or not, as this answer is extremely all-around and wishy-washy. You give reasons for him to be town and then you say you are not leaning town on him??

Also your stance on Lazer is what?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 21:00 GMT
#1086
It's pointlessly suicidal claiming miller in this game and all of you who are flinging shit at me for it should feel bad.

Actually it isn't if you got 3x goon, as you can gamble on there being no cop and no millers, and if you fakeclaim miller and noone cc's you just got pretty much guaranteed 2x fakeclaims.

Why did you assume there is a miller but no cop earlier?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 21:01 GMT
#1088
Well marv, there is no downside in claiming your role name so why don't you go ahead?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 21:06 GMT
#1094
On July 03 2013 06:01 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2013 06:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
It's pointlessly suicidal claiming miller in this game and all of you who are flinging shit at me for it should feel bad.

Actually it isn't if you got 3x goon, as you can gamble on there being no cop and no millers, and if you fakeclaim miller and noone cc's you just got pretty much guaranteed 2x fakeclaims.

Why did you assume there is a miller but no cop earlier?


When did I assume there was no cop?

Is your assertion seriously that mafia decided to do some fake-claim strategy in a game with all the roles laid out? Are you insane?

In this post:
On July 03 2013 01:17 marvellosity wrote:
I'm currently thinking that I hope the Lazer situation resolves itself overnight.

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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 21:08 GMT
#1097
Yeah, it is pretty hilarious. I can tell you why.

My D1 start posts were based on the fact that THE OP DID NOT SAY SCUM HAVE 2KP!

With 2 KP and good fake claims scum are in far better position as it's D2 MYLO.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 21:11 GMT
#1101
If i do not die i'll tell the thread what happened when the game was paused.
If i die i tell the obs thread.

Lynch marv, lynch Lazer, lynch (leaning on) Fuba.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 21:15 GMT
#1105
On July 03 2013 06:09 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2013 06:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 03 2013 06:01 marvellosity wrote:
On July 03 2013 06:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
It's pointlessly suicidal claiming miller in this game and all of you who are flinging shit at me for it should feel bad.

Actually it isn't if you got 3x goon, as you can gamble on there being no cop and no millers, and if you fakeclaim miller and noone cc's you just got pretty much guaranteed 2x fakeclaims.

Why did you assume there is a miller but no cop earlier?


When did I assume there was no cop?

Is your assertion seriously that mafia decided to do some fake-claim strategy in a game with all the roles laid out? Are you insane?

In this post:
On July 03 2013 01:17 marvellosity wrote:
I'm currently thinking that I hope the Lazer situation resolves itself overnight.



Read my long post and start feeling stupid already please.

At the moment I'm putting you in the retarded-but-town camp, now I have to work out who bandwagoned with you on to this whole stupid conspiracy theory.

You mean this part:
I'm assuming Lazer is town for now due to the lack of counterclaim. The presence of miller does not necessitate the presence of a cop. Nor in the instance that Lazer is fakeclaiming and there IS a real cop, would the real cop have necessarily counterclaimed by now, unless he was a) around right at the time of the lynch and b) thought he could move the lynch on to Lazer immediately.

1. The precence of a miller is a straight out clue there is a cop, as scum have 2 KP, everything that fucks with town is too bad.
2. your a) and b) Why the fuck there is noone questioning Lazer if he had fakeclaimed? They would know Lazer is 100% scum and would definitely be questioning him. You are not this stupid.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 21:16 GMT
#1106
On July 03 2013 06:14 JarJarDrinks wrote:
is deadline in :45 or 1:45 ???

45min
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 21:20 GMT
#1110
EVERY SINGLE PERSON HAS POSTED AFTER LAZER'S CLAIM. IF THEY WERE IN FACT A REAL COP AND LAZER WAS FAKECLAIMING, THEY WOULD QUESTION HIM AT LEAST IN SOME WAY, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HIS SCUMBUDDIES!
marvellosity is not this stupid. he is scum. Do not let him get away with this on D2.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 21:23 GMT
#1113
On July 03 2013 06:19 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2013 06:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 03 2013 06:09 marvellosity wrote:
On July 03 2013 06:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 03 2013 06:01 marvellosity wrote:
On July 03 2013 06:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
It's pointlessly suicidal claiming miller in this game and all of you who are flinging shit at me for it should feel bad.

Actually it isn't if you got 3x goon, as you can gamble on there being no cop and no millers, and if you fakeclaim miller and noone cc's you just got pretty much guaranteed 2x fakeclaims.

Why did you assume there is a miller but no cop earlier?


When did I assume there was no cop?

Is your assertion seriously that mafia decided to do some fake-claim strategy in a game with all the roles laid out? Are you insane?

In this post:
On July 03 2013 01:17 marvellosity wrote:
I'm currently thinking that I hope the Lazer situation resolves itself overnight.



Read my long post and start feeling stupid already please.

At the moment I'm putting you in the retarded-but-town camp, now I have to work out who bandwagoned with you on to this whole stupid conspiracy theory.

You mean this part:
I'm assuming Lazer is town for now due to the lack of counterclaim. The presence of miller does not necessitate the presence of a cop. Nor in the instance that Lazer is fakeclaiming and there IS a real cop, would the real cop have necessarily counterclaimed by now, unless he was a) around right at the time of the lynch and b) thought he could move the lynch on to Lazer immediately.

1. The precence of a miller is a straight out clue there is a cop, as scum have 2 KP, everything that fucks with town is too bad.
2. your a) and b) Why the fuck there is noone questioning Lazer if he had fakeclaimed? They would know Lazer is 100% scum and would definitely be questioning him. You are not this stupid.


If I were cop I would be doing so after the night finished because I would be protecting my role because I'm not a complete moron.

So in case you die you do nothing to try to tell the town who are the confirmed scum's scumbuddies? This game is not about blues, and if you really think what you say here you are a moron. And i don't think you are a moron, scum is more likely.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 21:26 GMT
#1115
Yeah you probably should. You need to try to convince other people anyways whether or not i am alive on D2, which i'm not.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 21:28 GMT
#1117
Not sure about JarJar for jumping on the retardedness and jumping off later. Can't tell if he was town getting caught up or mafia realising a bad thing and getting off it at the right time. Still gonna guess from the claim he's town I guess.

Didn't you think mafia had fakeclaims?
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