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Also look at D1 when marv got back.
On July 02 2013 05:09 marvellosity wrote:
ok I haven't got time to read the thread properly. who should i be looking at in particular?
On July 02 2013 05:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Fuba/Lazermonkey, WoS to some extent, but his filter is short and i dunno if he's just busy.
On July 02 2013 05:21 Lazermonkey wrote:
Rayn, 7 pages of filter and the only time you take an actual stance on Vayne is when you say that he is town from PoE. This is weak. On day 1 you generally aren't very certain on anything, and you are no way in hell being to single out the whole scum team and being able to say that someone is town due to PoE.
Ignoring everyone else, whats your stance on him?
On July 02 2013 05:24 marvellosity wrote:
Gonna ##Vote: WaveofShadow for now. Still reading the thread but he's underwhelmed me most so far. Everything else is so fucking dense.
On July 02 2013 05:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
We are not lynching Vayne. We are lynching you/WoS/Fuba, so why can't you just comment on them?
You had two days to make a case on Vayne, and you failed. You don't get us to look at him now, 30min before the lynch, when you have shown no interest in asking us to do that before.
On July 02 2013 05:32 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2013 05:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
We are not lynching Vayne. We are lynching you/WoS/Fuba, so why can't you just comment on them?
You had two days to make a case on Vayne, and you failed. You don't get us to look at him now, 30min before the lynch, when you have shown no interest in asking us to do that before. why are we not lynching Vayne? His filter is extraordinarily short (i know, i know). also just found this Show nested quote +On July 02 2013 01:16 VayneAuthority wrote:
can we agree collectively as a game to not claim roles in this open setup? It's pretty broken and I didn't sign up for a lets all claim and lynch at 50/50 game.
With that said I am mainly looking at lazer/WoS now.
Lazer's posting has been fairly more townie as of recently but the fact that he OMGUS'd me from my accusations is a bit alarming when he gave very little reasoning. It seems like he's trying to keep himself on the good side of most of the people in the game so instead of scum hunting he just goes right back at the accuser.
As for WoS I am not really a fan of what he's done so far, he has been very passive yet exceedingly angry which is somewhat how he played in Les Mis. The fact that he says I am playing differently and doesn't know what to make of it leads me to believe that he knows I am town somehow, might have been a scumslip. Vayne pretty much admits himself in past games that he likes to solve games by night interactions and kills, claims etc. Seems completely against his MO to advise against it this game.
On July 02 2013 05:32 Lazermonkey wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2013 05:32 marvellosity wrote:On July 02 2013 05:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
We are not lynching Vayne. We are lynching you/WoS/Fuba, so why can't you just comment on them?
You had two days to make a case on Vayne, and you failed. You don't get us to look at him now, 30min before the lynch, when you have shown no interest in asking us to do that before. why are we not lynching Vayne? His filter is extraordinarily short (i know, i know). also just found this On July 02 2013 01:16 VayneAuthority wrote:
can we agree collectively as a game to not claim roles in this open setup? It's pretty broken and I didn't sign up for a lets all claim and lynch at 50/50 game.
With that said I am mainly looking at lazer/WoS now.
Lazer's posting has been fairly more townie as of recently but the fact that he OMGUS'd me from my accusations is a bit alarming when he gave very little reasoning. It seems like he's trying to keep himself on the good side of most of the people in the game so instead of scum hunting he just goes right back at the accuser.
As for WoS I am not really a fan of what he's done so far, he has been very passive yet exceedingly angry which is somewhat how he played in Les Mis. The fact that he says I am playing differently and doesn't know what to make of it leads me to believe that he knows I am town somehow, might have been a scumslip. Vayne pretty much admits himself in past games that he likes to solve games by night interactions and kills, claims etc. Seems completely against his MO to advise against it this game. Marv 12 Points !
See the trend? There was probably scum lynch on the line, i can't think of anything but Fuba atm.
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Fuba why is WoS not mafia?
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On July 03 2013 04:45 Lazermonkey wrote:
Rayn, I'm done. You are very likely town at this point. But your arguments are really crappy at this point and you are suffering from an insane amount of confirmation bias. Marv could be scum but not because of the things you say. Good thing is that you are probably getting shot soon so I don't have to deal with this BS anymore...
What's wrong with my thought process?
Also what do you see in the set of quotes i posted? Nothing wrong in marv's behaviour?
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On July 03 2013 04:51 Lazermonkey wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2013 04:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 03 2013 04:45 Lazermonkey wrote:
Rayn, I'm done. You are very likely town at this point. But your arguments are really crappy at this point and you are suffering from an insane amount of confirmation bias. Marv could be scum but not because of the things you say. Good thing is that you are probably getting shot soon so I don't have to deal with this BS anymore... What's wrong with my thought process? Also what do you see in the set of quotes i posted? Nothing wrong in marv's behaviour? I'm guessing you say that marv swayed the lynch away from the main candidates? am I correct?
Tell me what do you see and then i'll tell what i see.
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scum have no fakeclaims. That's retarded. What's the point of having fakeclaims as the setup suggest what it does?
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"Hey, i am now telling you that these are the roles that may be in the game, but not guaranteed"
"psst.. mafia, i'll tell you that these names of the pool are not in the game"
no.. fucking.. way..
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Like you are suggesting that we have a semi-open setup, but scum do have an open setup?
Now how stupid is that?
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On July 03 2013 05:02 Lazermonkey wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2013 04:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 03 2013 04:51 Lazermonkey wrote:On July 03 2013 04:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 03 2013 04:45 Lazermonkey wrote:
Rayn, I'm done. You are very likely town at this point. But your arguments are really crappy at this point and you are suffering from an insane amount of confirmation bias. Marv could be scum but not because of the things you say. Good thing is that you are probably getting shot soon so I don't have to deal with this BS anymore... What's wrong with my thought process? Also what do you see in the set of quotes i posted? Nothing wrong in marv's behaviour? I'm guessing you say that marv swayed the lynch away from the main candidates? am I correct? Tell me what do you see and then i'll tell what i see. I'm sorry, I may be retarded and missing something but what I see is marv swaying the lynch from me/fuba to Vayne and me buddying marv for doing so.
This is what i see.
- marv is not caught up and wants to know who he should be looking into
- i tell him to look into lazer/fuba/wos
- he puts his vote on wos because "everything else is fucking dense"
- you come in with a last minute case on vayne
- marv does not comment on fuba/you in any way, but instead tells us to lynch vayne. wtf? why is he even looking in there as the case is presented by one of the people town currently think is scum, and why did he not look into those town's suspects instead?
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On July 03 2013 05:03 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2013 05:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like you are suggesting that we have a semi-open setup, but scum do have an open setup?
Now how stupid is that? I don't think it's stupid at all, unless like I mentioned earlier, iGrok is completely fine with us breaking his game.
There are 13 possible town roles in the game.
There are probably 9 townies and 3 scum.
If we massclaim it all depends on who claims first.
Even if all scum claim first, they still have 4 roles to claim + survivor, and if scum look town enough, they would not have to claim first.
Notice also that the game is over N2 if we don't get our shit together.
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And again, what's the point of having a semi-open setup if mafia has an open-setup. Sounds like a Bastard game instead.
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On July 03 2013 05:09 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2013 05:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 03 2013 05:02 Lazermonkey wrote:On July 03 2013 04:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 03 2013 04:51 Lazermonkey wrote:On July 03 2013 04:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 03 2013 04:45 Lazermonkey wrote:
Rayn, I'm done. You are very likely town at this point. But your arguments are really crappy at this point and you are suffering from an insane amount of confirmation bias. Marv could be scum but not because of the things you say. Good thing is that you are probably getting shot soon so I don't have to deal with this BS anymore... What's wrong with my thought process? Also what do you see in the set of quotes i posted? Nothing wrong in marv's behaviour? I'm guessing you say that marv swayed the lynch away from the main candidates? am I correct? Tell me what do you see and then i'll tell what i see. I'm sorry, I may be retarded and missing something but what I see is marv swaying the lynch from me/fuba to Vayne and me buddying marv for doing so. This is what i see. - marv is not caught up and wants to know who he should be looking into - i tell him to look into lazer/fuba/wos - he puts his vote on wos because "everything else is fucking dense" - you come in with a last minute case on vayne - marv does not comment on fuba/you in any way, but instead tells us to lynch vayne. wtf? why is he even looking in there as the case is presented by one of the people town currently think is scum, and why did he not look into those town's suspects instead? If you'll remember in my posts last night I brought up the fact that Marv and Vivax were both content to relegate the lynch to those who weren't able to defend themselves at the time. I remember Marv's vote on me looking particularly awful.
I don't know what to think of that vote yet, as to me it now seems pretty clear he wasn't going to keep his vote on you either way. But one thing is sure, he definitely did not want to vote for Lazer.
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On July 03 2013 05:13 Lazermonkey wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2013 05:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 03 2013 05:02 Lazermonkey wrote:On July 03 2013 04:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 03 2013 04:51 Lazermonkey wrote:On July 03 2013 04:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 03 2013 04:45 Lazermonkey wrote:
Rayn, I'm done. You are very likely town at this point. But your arguments are really crappy at this point and you are suffering from an insane amount of confirmation bias. Marv could be scum but not because of the things you say. Good thing is that you are probably getting shot soon so I don't have to deal with this BS anymore... What's wrong with my thought process? Also what do you see in the set of quotes i posted? Nothing wrong in marv's behaviour? I'm guessing you say that marv swayed the lynch away from the main candidates? am I correct? Tell me what do you see and then i'll tell what i see. I'm sorry, I may be retarded and missing something but what I see is marv swaying the lynch from me/fuba to Vayne and me buddying marv for doing so. This is what i see. - marv is not caught up and wants to know who he should be looking into - i tell him to look into lazer/fuba/wos - he puts his vote on wos because "everything else is fucking dense" - you come in with a last minute case on vayne - marv does not comment on fuba/you in any way, but instead tells us to lynch vayne. wtf? why is he even looking in there as the case is presented by one of the people town currently think is scum, and why did he not look into those town's suspects instead? First off. There was no case. I said he was scummy because of stuff. Secondly, at least I thought that we had one extra hour (which we did get in the end...) so marvs comment wasn't really that last minute. Thirdly, marv couldn't possibly just think Vayne was more scummy? If fuba ends up flipping red I agree that marv looks really bad for this, but untill then I don't read too much into this.
The main point is that marv asks who should he read. When i tell who to read (and Vayne gave pretty much same suspects), marv does not read those suspects, instead he votes with one of the suspects!! How the fuck does that make sense if you have not caught up with the thread?
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Why on earth did he read Vayne's filter instead of Lazer/Fuba in the first place?!?!?!?!?!?!
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Also where the fuck are Vivax and Oats? Especially Vivax.
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WoS why are you not trying to ask Lazer anything at all?
Lazer vice versa.
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[/QUOTE]First off. There was no case. I said he was scummy because of stuff.
Secondly, at least I thought that we had one extra hour (which we did get in the end...) so marvs comment wasn't really that last minute.
Thirdly, marv couldn't possibly just think Vayne was more scummy?
If fuba ends up flipping red I agree that marv looks really bad for this, but untill then I don't read too much into this.[/QUOTE]
WTF! YOU HAD BEEN CALLING HIM SCUM FOR ALL GAME! AND IT WAS BECAUSE OF "STUFF"????
scum.
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EBWOP:
First off. There was no case. I said he was scummy because of stuff.
Secondly, at least I thought that we had one extra hour (which we did get in the end...) so marvs comment wasn't really that last minute.
Thirdly, marv couldn't possibly just think Vayne was more scummy?
If fuba ends up flipping red I agree that marv looks really bad for this, but untill then I don't read too much into this.
WTF! YOU HAD BEEN CALLING HIM SCUM FOR ALL GAME! AND IT WAS BECAUSE OF "STUFF"????
scum.[/QUOTE]
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On July 03 2013 05:26 Lazermonkey wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2013 05:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 03 2013 05:13 Lazermonkey wrote:On July 03 2013 05:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 03 2013 05:02 Lazermonkey wrote:On July 03 2013 04:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 03 2013 04:51 Lazermonkey wrote:On July 03 2013 04:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 03 2013 04:45 Lazermonkey wrote:
Rayn, I'm done. You are very likely town at this point. But your arguments are really crappy at this point and you are suffering from an insane amount of confirmation bias. Marv could be scum but not because of the things you say. Good thing is that you are probably getting shot soon so I don't have to deal with this BS anymore... What's wrong with my thought process? Also what do you see in the set of quotes i posted? Nothing wrong in marv's behaviour? I'm guessing you say that marv swayed the lynch away from the main candidates? am I correct? Tell me what do you see and then i'll tell what i see. I'm sorry, I may be retarded and missing something but what I see is marv swaying the lynch from me/fuba to Vayne and me buddying marv for doing so. This is what i see. - marv is not caught up and wants to know who he should be looking into - i tell him to look into lazer/fuba/wos - he puts his vote on wos because "everything else is fucking dense" - you come in with a last minute case on vayne - marv does not comment on fuba/you in any way, but instead tells us to lynch vayne. wtf? why is he even looking in there as the case is presented by one of the people town currently think is scum, and why did he not look into those town's suspects instead? First off. There was no case. I said he was scummy because of stuff. Secondly, at least I thought that we had one extra hour (which we did get in the end...) so marvs comment wasn't really that last minute. Thirdly, marv couldn't possibly just think Vayne was more scummy? If fuba ends up flipping red I agree that marv looks really bad for this, but untill then I don't read too much into this. The main point is that marv asks who should he read. When i tell who to read (and Vayne gave pretty much same suspects), marv does not read those suspects, instead he votes with one of the suspects!! How the fuck does that make sense if you have not caught up with the thread? Yhea but Marv claimed that he didn't think I was scum and then I still think it makes alot of sense. He could obviously be faking at as scum but it comes down to WIFOM at that point.
Yeah this seems like an convincing argument:
Lazer's filter looks like he's trying.
And that was AFTER he voted for vayne.
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EPT
