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On July 06 2013 06:13 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2013 05:53 marvellosity wrote:
gumshoe, do me a favour - go read the back and forth (or whatever it was) that Stutters and fuba had. It doesn't feel like mafia on mafia to me. Agree/disagree? Already done. Agree. It's not. Comparatively Stutters is Jar Jars number one town read for 90 percent of the game. Why XD? Stutters does not recicporcate. In fact Stutters is not scum period. Show nested quote +Well I would still be for JJD but Jesus Fuba either needs to explain or die. Why can't you get a read on me? Comparing me to someone with a different playstyle while softing I'm scummy but starting I'm town isn't going to cut it. Where's your usual good analysis? Him condemning a confirmed scum player over a suspicious player? Yeah, not scum. All game long hes been suspicious of Fuba and JJd. Why is JJD so forgiving and unmentioning of him when he pretty much made me his number on target for attacking him? Stutters kept up his case long after I quit as well / : JJD is sheeping Stutters cause he knows hes a likely to be lynched townie. He was just waiting for the flip to say I told you so.
I bussed JJD from the start of the game in Les.
Just sayinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
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Guys it was a great pleasure to play this wonderful game with you. Unless for some reason scum get it in their head that I'm not a good kill tonight, I am not long for this world. Maybe you guys all think for some reason that my efforts have been enough for you to let me live (assuming scum do), or you have no reason to lynch me, but as I've said I really doubt that to be true. Silly, maybe, but that's just how I've been thinking this whole game. Hopefully both teams will ignore me the rest of the game and I can just live my days out in peace, a simple but lonely survivor. Or maybe you guys can let me live until LYLO so I can decide the outcome or something, 'cause that'd be super duper fun. Every 3rd party has probably dreamed of being in that sort of a position. I'd choose wisely in that case, don't you guys worry. Anyway I could probably just keep on talking like I have been all game just to look at my own posts with secret glee but there's probably not much point. Plus Vivax might yell at me again and he's a scary guy. Best of luck to both teams on this one, and it's been a great, albeit brief pleasure. PS I know at least one other scum member.
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On July 06 2013 07:07 marvellosity wrote:
I do wonder if Vivax is right in that mafia don't have a roleblocker.
Or maybe they do and they were just scared of WoS's jail? Dunno.
It's not about whether he's right or wrong. It's why he's so damn sure of himself when there's no reason to be.
Also I'm taking guesses right now as to what I ended up deciding to do last night.
Any takers?
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On July 06 2013 07:09 marvellosity wrote:
don't know don't care
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On July 06 2013 07:11 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2013 07:08 WaveofShadow wrote:On July 06 2013 07:07 marvellosity wrote:
I do wonder if Vivax is right in that mafia don't have a roleblocker.
Or maybe they do and they were just scared of WoS's jail? Dunno. It's not about whether he's right or wrong. It's why he's so damn sure of himself when there's no reason to be. Also I'm taking guesses right now as to what I ended up deciding to do last night. Any takers? Have you never played with Vivax before? In LIX I smurfed, was so townie that a town-full of vets elected me mayor, I pushed two mafia all day 1, used my mayoral lynch to kill a mafia, and pushed more mafia into day 2. Vivax is cop and gets a redcheck on someone, but is SO convinced that I'm mafia somehow that he votes for me instead of his redcheck. You'd have to see it to believe it almost.
But it's like a switch flipped between D1 and D2 somewhere. He did not like play like this for half the game.
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On July 06 2013 07:12 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2013 07:08 WaveofShadow wrote:On July 06 2013 07:07 marvellosity wrote:
I do wonder if Vivax is right in that mafia don't have a roleblocker.
Or maybe they do and they were just scared of WoS's jail? Dunno. It's not about whether he's right or wrong. It's why he's so damn sure of himself when there's no reason to be. Also I'm taking guesses right now as to what I ended up deciding to do last night. Any takers? You dont matter. And Your going to lose tonight because scum are will vendetta shoot you ) : and your the doctor XD so yeah
You know it's funny I was actually thinking of protecting Lazer because that's where they were obviously going to shoot but then people'd get all mad at me for stopping copcheck n shiz.
Better he died anyway 'cause I didn't know what alignment he was.
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Well anyway I'm out for a while.
If anyone is real bored, bonus points to anyone who can figure out what I did last night, and more importantly, why.
I left clues.
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On July 06 2013 11:21 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2013 11:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
hehe.
man mass claims break the game.
I think its clear that Mafia dont have a rb now.
##vote JJD Could also be that wos rbed the scum player who had the rb. Might be what he was talking about. Oh and yeah mass claims are a bit op but I think this scum team is pretty mediocre to be honest.
THAT would be pretty funny.
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On July 06 2013 12:21 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2013 12:17 JarJarDrinks wrote:Need to catch up and stuff but want to comment on some things first: On July 06 2013 11:05 gumshoe wrote:
Oats, process of elimination, Marv is town, Lazers makes his claim highly likely and no one else has claimed miller, wos is survivor, please dont fight me on that, I'm town, vixax is town or scum is retarded, and your town because of your actions yesterday. Care to give any reasons for why you're town? On July 06 2013 11:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
I think its clear that Mafia dont have a rb now. So do you think one of the blues left (or WoS) are scum? Or are you saying that you believe that mafia got no power roles whatsoever in a game with 3 blues and a 3rd party JK? 1 cop 1 vet 1 vengeful townie. Gumshoe claimed vengeful town How many of these can you RB? 1. Also, why kill Lazer when you can RB him and kill marv?
Ding ding ding we have a wiener
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On July 06 2013 13:45 gumshoe wrote:
Ebwop on you or for you not on for you.
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On July 06 2013 14:31 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2013 13:44 gumshoe wrote:On July 06 2013 12:17 JarJarDrinks wrote:Need to catch up and stuff but want to comment on some things first: On July 06 2013 11:05 gumshoe wrote:
Oats, process of elimination, Marv is town, Lazers makes his claim highly likely and no one else has claimed miller, wos is survivor, please dont fight me on that, I'm town, vixax is town or scum is retarded, and your town because of your actions yesterday. Care to give any reasons for why you're town? On July 06 2013 11:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
I think its clear that Mafia dont have a rb now. So do you think one of the blues left (or WoS) are scum? Or are you saying that you believe that mafia got no power roles whatsoever in a game with 3 blues and a 3rd party JK? Ok jar jar, seeing as I'm the only read they're you have a problem with, I'm going to make this very easy on for you, convince we why solstice is scum(he's one of your biggest scum reads, remember?). I can't speak for the rest of town, but if you make a good case, I'll cast my vote on him. Then the following day town can lynch me, if I'm scum hooray, town wins, if I'm not, I take you with me, town wins anyways. If you choose to abandon your solstice read or choose to now think stutters is scum when you were his defender for ages, then I need you to admit you've been wrong for 90 percent of this game. In which case I hope you don't expect anyone to still listen you even on the off chance that you do actually prove to be the worst townie in tl history. Solstice hasn't really been on my radar for a while now and Stutters never has been. I'm sorry but you don't get to decide who I make a case against. I'm still thinking WoS is scum and I'm not entirely sure about the 2nd scum. I need to sleep now. Will still go over some more stuff tomorrow but if anyone wants to post direct questions on reiterate reasons for voting for me, it'd make it easier. And before marv asks again, I'll get this out of the way: I, JarJarDrinks, do solemnly swear, that I believe a scum WoS is capable of making a play like he has in regards to the rules and host.Like I said WoS, I don't hold it against you personally and I don't think it's as dickish as marv is making it out to be. Especially since I have no idea what actually happened w/ the roles and the whole pause in the game.
Alright, you're a few days late but that's interesting to hear.
How sure of myself or confident would you say I have been this game regarding my play?
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Like...I agree with marv in that it would be a pretty dick move and seriously fucking with the rules that everybody abides by so I wouldn't go there, but let's say you're right, I'm scum, and I went there.
Ignoring all of that for now, answer the question I just asked.
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On July 07 2013 01:26 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2013 01:11 gumshoe wrote:On July 07 2013 00:40 JarJarDrinks wrote:On July 06 2013 23:03 marvellosity wrote:
I don't think you're scum because claims, I think you're scum because I don't believe your WoS read, I don't get why a townie would be asking why gumshoe looks townie, I don't like how you passively agreed with rayn's theory to retract it weakly later, I don't like how you went from pushing fuba to just dropping it for WoS.
If you're town and you can't find scum or at least demonstrate a townie thought process (which is primarily where I think you've fell down, repeatedly) then we're gonna lose today. Why are you ignoring my question? On July 06 2013 22:55 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Fuba didn't fake claim on day 1. Why? Same question to everyone else. a) Fuba received the miller claim, and didn't want to throw himself into the fire so early in the game, which ended up working because Vayne was lynched, not him. b) Scum only received they're claims after the pause. In which case Fuba claiming miller would've looked terrible. c)Dude was super afk d)combination of the above. This at the least is plausible. It does not fly in the face of reason considering the circumstances of this game. Am I right 100 percent? No, but neither are you. Therefore we treat claims as null. Make a case based on peoples posting and relation to Fuba. Back to the question then, why should we lynch Solstice instead of you. Thanks for proving my point and not reading what I wrote. You believe stutters or Solstice is my scumbuddy right? They both have claimed vanilla roles right? Therefore scum had a vanilla role to claim and Fuba didn't use it despite being pretty close to being lynched for the majority of that last hour. And he wasn't AFK as he posted about 4 times in that time period. So your answer makes no sense but I'm sure you'll still stick to your guns.
You're a super derp.
Go over the claims again and look at what the last 2 town claims were when me and fuba had yet to claim:
Vigi and Hammersmark.
Scum and I were not given the same info/claims so I had to either claim for real or use vigi, I obv chose vigi.
Scum used their other two fakeclaims on their other two members and they were left with Hammersmark.
Since they didn't claim miller early in the day when they 'should' have (and I distinctly remember someone (Oats?) saying claiming miller now would be a scumclaim or something), claiming the only 'safe' role left to them would have meant death for fuba anyway, so they gambled on the fact that there was either no survivor (I doubt this) or that they could pit themselves against whoever it was that decided to counterclaim fuba. They lost this gamble.
I explained this whole thing wayyyyyy earlier JJD so you're just be purposefully willful and ignorant right now. You also answered everyone's recent questions but mine. Why are you always avoiding questions regarding us being on the same scumteam in Les?
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On July 07 2013 01:45 JarJarDrinks wrote:Is this game an experiement? I feel like I'm on the truman show. How can so many people read what I write and then ignore it. Show nested quote +On July 07 2013 01:31 WaveofShadow wrote:On July 07 2013 01:26 JarJarDrinks wrote:On July 07 2013 01:11 gumshoe wrote:On July 07 2013 00:40 JarJarDrinks wrote:On July 06 2013 23:03 marvellosity wrote:
I don't think you're scum because claims, I think you're scum because I don't believe your WoS read, I don't get why a townie would be asking why gumshoe looks townie, I don't like how you passively agreed with rayn's theory to retract it weakly later, I don't like how you went from pushing fuba to just dropping it for WoS.
If you're town and you can't find scum or at least demonstrate a townie thought process (which is primarily where I think you've fell down, repeatedly) then we're gonna lose today. Why are you ignoring my question? On July 06 2013 22:55 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Fuba didn't fake claim on day 1. Why? Same question to everyone else. a) Fuba received the miller claim, and didn't want to throw himself into the fire so early in the game, which ended up working because Vayne was lynched, not him. b) Scum only received they're claims after the pause. In which case Fuba claiming miller would've looked terrible. c)Dude was super afk d)combination of the above. This at the least is plausible. It does not fly in the face of reason considering the circumstances of this game. Am I right 100 percent? No, but neither are you. Therefore we treat claims as null. Make a case based on peoples posting and relation to Fuba. Back to the question then, why should we lynch Solstice instead of you. Thanks for proving my point and not reading what I wrote. You believe stutters or Solstice is my scumbuddy right? They both have claimed vanilla roles right? Therefore scum had a vanilla role to claim and Fuba didn't use it despite being pretty close to being lynched for the majority of that last hour. And he wasn't AFK as he posted about 4 times in that time period. So your answer makes no sense but I'm sure you'll still stick to your guns. You're a super derp. Go over the claims again and look at what the last 2 town claims were when me and fuba had yet to claim: Vigi and Hammersmark. Scum and I were not given the same info/claims so I had to either claim for real or use vigi, I obv chose vigi. Scum used their other two fakeclaims on their other two members and they were left with Hammersmark. Since they didn't claim miller early in the day when they 'should' have (and I distinctly remember someone (Oats?) saying claiming miller now would be a scumclaim or something), claiming the only 'safe' role left to them would have meant death for fuba anyway, so they gambled on the fact that there was either no survivor (I doubt this) or that they could pit themselves against whoever it was that decided to counterclaim fuba. They lost this gamble. I explained this whole thing wayyyyyy earlier JJD so you're just be purposefully willful and ignorant right now. You also answered everyone's recent questions but mine. Why are you always avoiding questions regarding us being on the same scumteam in Les? On day 1, BEFORE THE MASS CLAIMS. Fuba was close to being lynched BEFORE THE MASS CLAIMS and didn't claim BEFORE THE MASS CLAIMS. He apparantly has a vanilla claim in his pocket because this was BEFORE THE MASS CLAIMS. He didn't use it, why?
Because he's not bad and knows there's no sense claiming so early in a day?
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On July 07 2013 01:50 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2013 01:45 JarJarDrinks wrote:Is this game an experiement? I feel like I'm on the truman show. How can so many people read what I write and then ignore it. On July 07 2013 01:31 WaveofShadow wrote:On July 07 2013 01:26 JarJarDrinks wrote:On July 07 2013 01:11 gumshoe wrote:On July 07 2013 00:40 JarJarDrinks wrote:On July 06 2013 23:03 marvellosity wrote:
I don't think you're scum because claims, I think you're scum because I don't believe your WoS read, I don't get why a townie would be asking why gumshoe looks townie, I don't like how you passively agreed with rayn's theory to retract it weakly later, I don't like how you went from pushing fuba to just dropping it for WoS.
If you're town and you can't find scum or at least demonstrate a townie thought process (which is primarily where I think you've fell down, repeatedly) then we're gonna lose today. Why are you ignoring my question? On July 06 2013 22:55 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Fuba didn't fake claim on day 1. Why? Same question to everyone else. a) Fuba received the miller claim, and didn't want to throw himself into the fire so early in the game, which ended up working because Vayne was lynched, not him. b) Scum only received they're claims after the pause. In which case Fuba claiming miller would've looked terrible. c)Dude was super afk d)combination of the above. This at the least is plausible. It does not fly in the face of reason considering the circumstances of this game. Am I right 100 percent? No, but neither are you. Therefore we treat claims as null. Make a case based on peoples posting and relation to Fuba. Back to the question then, why should we lynch Solstice instead of you. Thanks for proving my point and not reading what I wrote. You believe stutters or Solstice is my scumbuddy right? They both have claimed vanilla roles right? Therefore scum had a vanilla role to claim and Fuba didn't use it despite being pretty close to being lynched for the majority of that last hour. And he wasn't AFK as he posted about 4 times in that time period. So your answer makes no sense but I'm sure you'll still stick to your guns. You're a super derp. Go over the claims again and look at what the last 2 town claims were when me and fuba had yet to claim: Vigi and Hammersmark. Scum and I were not given the same info/claims so I had to either claim for real or use vigi, I obv chose vigi. Scum used their other two fakeclaims on their other two members and they were left with Hammersmark. Since they didn't claim miller early in the day when they 'should' have (and I distinctly remember someone (Oats?) saying claiming miller now would be a scumclaim or something), claiming the only 'safe' role left to them would have meant death for fuba anyway, so they gambled on the fact that there was either no survivor (I doubt this) or that they could pit themselves against whoever it was that decided to counterclaim fuba. They lost this gamble. I explained this whole thing wayyyyyy earlier JJD so you're just be purposefully willful and ignorant right now. You also answered everyone's recent questions but mine. Why are you always avoiding questions regarding us being on the same scumteam in Les? On day 1, BEFORE THE MASS CLAIMS. Fuba was close to being lynched BEFORE THE MASS CLAIMS and didn't claim BEFORE THE MASS CLAIMS. He apparantly has a vanilla claim in his pocket because this was BEFORE THE MASS CLAIMS. He didn't use it, why? Because he's not bad and knows there's no sense claiming so early in a day?
It may have also been because if scum were given their claims way earlier (either before the pause or after it) fuba was already 'chosen' to have to use hammersmark so he wanted to avoid caliming at all costs. It may have been because fuba was the closest of the scumteam to being lynched at the time they decided to give him the shittiest of the claims they got.
There are plenty of very likely explanations JJD, and you treat your questions like you're fucking Edward Snowden breaking the news of NSA to the world.
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Oh yeah I meant to answer that.
Probably do a little jig and click my heels together?
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lulz.
I tell ya what.
I'll tell my loyal followers not to nuke you in the next game, k?
:D
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On July 07 2013 02:49 gumshoe wrote:
Sorry if this off topic, I wont derail the thread past this, but whats the best scum move/game on tl? Im talking something like actually only firing one shot so that vivax can claim vet good XD
I wouldn't call something like that the 'best' move. I'm sure there are some games where people have gone all YOLOscum and done something incredibly derpy to try and make big plays but as far as I can tell every game I've ever been in scum have made the 'right' moves.
Giving up essentially the only night scum had 2KP to 'confirm' Vivax as vet is possible, but EXTREMELY unlikely. Would probably require a marv/vivax scumteam for that to happen which would be one hell of an epic win for them. I wouldn't follow that train of thought if I were town though, but I'm not so it's not like it REALLY matters to me if that's true or not.
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