Basterd Mini Mafia - Page 11

On July 05 2013 23:33 marvellosity wrote:
By the way, if scum shoots you and not a townie, scum are giving town an extra mislynch.

On July 05 2013 23:36 marvellosity wrote:
Who said you had a guarantee? It's just basic logic that if it's MYLO compared to not-MYLO, we have very little incentive to lynch in to you.

On July 05 2013 23:37 marvellosity wrote:


The mathematically right play is for scum to shoot town.

If scum get their shot through, mathematically it's a pretty decent play to lynch you. If scum don't, mathematically it isn't.

On July 05 2013 23:41 marvellosity wrote:


It is the best play if we don't have a guaranteed scum lynch.

You're spouting bullshit on the basis that you expect agents to act irrationally. That's just nonsense.

Rationally scum will not shoot you, and town will definitely not lynch you if you make a save, but could well lynch you if you don't.

There's only one scenario where YOUR action makes a difference.

On July 05 2013 23:50 Lazermonkey wrote:
WoS, just shut up please, nothing you say makes sense.

On July 06 2013 00:25 Stutters695 wrote:
Nah, dog. That's just the beginning. I was actually typing up a post on this subject but I didn't want to give scum a guideline to actually winning if they were dumb enough to take the n1 shots they did.

What would you like me to talk about qtpi?

On July 06 2013 01:13 marvellosity wrote:
stop pretending to be stupid, WoS, it's boring ^_^

On July 06 2013 01:18 marvellosity wrote:


well it's pretty clear you're not reading when you're saying JJD hard-defended fuba.


I wouldn't say things like "it's likely scum will shoot me tonight" when that's obviously completely untrue

On July 06 2013 01:25 marvellosity wrote:
Question's already answered. In fact we discussed it extensively.

On July 05 2013 18:46 marvellosity wrote:
Maybe you should ask the person who claims it's totally broken without any reasoning as to why it would be broken and despite an extremely experienced player offering his experience on setups earlier.

WaveofShadow - you should try to save a townie tonight, otherwise town can lynch you tomorrow without any repurcussions... if you get a save off though, then you get us an extra lynch.

Might actually be a decent idea to lynch WoS regardless. It'll be MYLO tomorrow and we don't have to worry about reducing KP anymore; and lynching the survivor wouldn't lose us the game, same as today. Also if WoS flips survivor then JJD is pretty much an auto-lynch the next day

On July 06 2013 01:30 Stutters695 wrote:
I'd like to talk about WoS just a tad bit more. I think you're with me on thinking that this would be the worst bus in the history of mafia but I still don't get his play. He has no reason to be scared of mafia, we have no incentive to lynch him unless we're 100% sure he's mafia.

If I was him yesterday, as soon as Fuba claimed and was confirmed scum to him it's like he gave up on trying argue his way or of it. That's not at all what I would have done as 3p when if he tried to talk his way out of it and was successful town can't save anymore kp, he doesn't block and scum claim the next day and the 4 laugh to victory. And even if he fails to talk himself out of it, he has a counterclaim still with solid reasoning behind why he didn't expose him. Granted scum could have truly sold it by having Fuba claim a RB on WoS but his emphasis on how he didn't want to throw scum under the bus yet made no effort to actually do anything makes me think he wanted Fuba to die, which a 3p shouldn't. I'm having a hard time reconciling his actions from a 3p perspective when given what he knew at the time his quickest way to victory was to not claim.

Do you think there was no way he wasn't getting lynched without the claim despite how much time was left in the day?

On July 06 2013 01:32 marvellosity wrote:


Protect into me or Vivax. You can't protect into Lazer (rb) and given he's essentially a sitting duck, it doesn't matter too much if he dies. gumshoe has his shot.

If scum shoot Lazer, Vivax is forced to be productive, so that's a plus. If scum shoot Vivax, we're only losing insanity. I'm probably the most likely scum-shot tonight.

Nor did I say at any point that we WILL lynch you if you don't make a save, just that it's considerably more attractive to do so.

On July 06 2013 01:35 marvellosity wrote:


None of that is WIFOM, I explain quite clearly. Don't throw around words you don't understand.

On July 06 2013 01:49 Stutters695 wrote:
Not waiting til the last second but off of memory didn't you claim over 24hrs before the flip? That would have been plenty of time to try and talk yourself out of it and claim out of it if that failed. I know you're not dumb so you had to have considered this. I just don't get it.

On July 06 2013 04:42 marvellosity wrote:


you literally have zero basis to assert this.

On July 06 2013 05:00 Lazermonkey wrote:
Just go away.

On July 06 2013 05:10 Vivax wrote:


No, cause WoS claimed roleblocked vigi, and fuba claimed survivor not using the roleblock, hence Lazer had to claim no RB to protect fuba's claim.

Likely scum didn't know of the RB notification thing cause else fuba could have easily claimed a RB. He probably thought he couldn't fakeclaim it.

Even if scum were informed that there's no notification, they knew WoS' claim was fake, and if fuba had claimed a roleblock on Lazer, then well, it'd have been scummy for Lazer not to push fuba, plus, fuba would have done something anti-town in the eyes of town, lowering his survival chances.