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On June 21 2013 23:08 ShiaoPi wrote:
Because that is what yamato does (at least in my memory)? Yes, it does not help anyone to determine his alignment right now, but what did you expect, words of wisdom in every post I do on day 1? It's just something to keep in mind.
I am thinking you are blowing this way out of proportion
When have you played with yamato that has given you this impression?
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Also ShiaoPi, can you elaborate more on why does GK's case on Oats mean he is scum from meta-perspective. Does he not make this kinda cases as town?
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marvellosity (1): cDgCorazon, Coagulation
cDgCorazon (1): Oatsmaster
Oatsmaster (1): Hapahauli, cDgCorazon
yamato77 (2): DarthPunk, Oatsmaster, raynpelikoneet
ShiaoPi (1): marvellosity
goodkarma (1): ShiaoPi
Deadline is at 23:00 GMT (+00:00) in . yamato77 set to be lynched.
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TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
sorry went off for a round of dota
On June 21 2013 23:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So you agree you were saying something just for sake of saying something?
The post I did was in order to verify if my impression of yamatos play is shared by everyone or at least some of the other players. so no that post was not only for the sake of saying something.
On June 21 2013 23:14 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2013 23:08 ShiaoPi wrote:
Because that is what yamato does (at least in my memory)? Yes, it does not help anyone to determine his alignment right now, but what did you expect, words of wisdom in every post I do on day 1? It's just something to keep in mind.
I am thinking you are blowing this way out of proportion When have you played with yamato that has given you this impression?
Cannot pin point it to a certain game right now, would have to look in his game history again, but it is more I always feel like wanting to shoot him for some posts he does. take it as you want, I am really dont feel like like searching for specifics right now.
Now on GK:
The case on oats is bad since I have not seen anything really alignment indicative from oats right now. gk is just using oats playstyle against him to look contributing and scumhunting, usual scum motivation stuff. His play also feels a lot like I swear this is normal mini mafia, which just ended recently and where I and gk were scum. (minus the inactive replacement shenanis)
Also gk is most surely familiar with oats' play so taking this "easy" target is something I think is clearly scummotivated
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On June 22 2013 00:10 ShiaoPi wrote:
Cannot pin point it to a certain game right now, would have to look in his game history again, but it is more I always feel like wanting to shoot him for some posts he does. take it as you want, I am really dont feel like like searching for specifics right now.
Ok, but basically as far as I can tell you said bullshit with no basis. I like to think my mafia memory is pretty decent even in games I've not played in, and I can't really remember you two playing together much, if at all.
So where I'm at is that you said some bullshit to passively-aggressively say that yamato was 'looking' scummy, without even actually saying he was scummy.
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On June 22 2013 00:15 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2013 00:10 ShiaoPi wrote:
Cannot pin point it to a certain game right now, would have to look in his game history again, but it is more I always feel like wanting to shoot him for some posts he does. take it as you want, I am really dont feel like like searching for specifics right now.
Ok, but basically as far as I can tell you said bullshit with no basis. I like to think my mafia memory is pretty decent even in games I've not played in, and I can't really remember you two playing together much, if at all. So where I'm at is that you said some bullshit to passively-aggressively say that yamato was 'looking' scummy, without even actually saying he was scummy.
/le sigh
And here I thought I could just sit around on friday evening and drink my beer in peace, let me go search the game history again
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Marv, that entrance to the thread was really terrible and was only kind of rectified by your posts. In all honesty, you seem a bit hesitant to talk about anything else besides Yamato and that scares me a little.
Today will be interesting to see if Yamato comes back and decides to defend himself. As town he will defend himself to the bitter end, but as scum he tends to get very defeated and stops trying once he gets figured out. It will be interesting to see which side of Yamato we see before the day's end.
If anyone wants to ask me something, go ahead.
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United Kingdom36161 Posts
I talked about yamato because I was constantly asked about yamato. This shouldn't be too tricky to grasp.
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yeah cora, why did you tell yamato how to play?
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On June 22 2013 00:10 ShiaoPi wrote:sorry went off for a round of dota Show nested quote +On June 21 2013 23:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So you agree you were saying something just for sake of saying something? The post I did was in order to verify if my impression of yamatos play is shared by everyone or at least some of the other players. so no that post was not only for the sake of saying something. Show nested quote +On June 21 2013 23:14 marvellosity wrote:On June 21 2013 23:08 ShiaoPi wrote:
Because that is what yamato does (at least in my memory)? Yes, it does not help anyone to determine his alignment right now, but what did you expect, words of wisdom in every post I do on day 1? It's just something to keep in mind.
I am thinking you are blowing this way out of proportion When have you played with yamato that has given you this impression? Cannot pin point it to a certain game right now, would have to look in his game history again, but it is more I always feel like wanting to shoot him for some posts he does. take it as you want, I am really dont feel like like searching for specifics right now. Now on GK: The case on oats is bad since I have not seen anything really alignment indicative from oats right now. gk is just using oats playstyle against him to look contributing and scumhunting, usual scum motivation stuff. His play also feels a lot like I swear this is normal mini mafia, which just ended recently and where I and gk were scum. (minus the inactive replacement shenanis) Also gk is most surely familiar with oats' play so taking this "easy" target is something I think is clearly scummotivated
The case on Oats is bad for sure. I'm just trying to figure out if it's scum!GK or town!GK doing this. You seem to be sure of him being scum because you have voted for him. It does not matter if GK has done this as scum, the question you did not answer is do you have evidence that he has not done this as town? Is your meta-case valid or not?
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On June 22 2013 00:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
yeah cora, why did you tell yamato how to play?
I'm not.
I was just contrasting my experience with a town Yamato (Duel Mafia) and scum Mafia (Red Team's Prize).
You are jumping to conclusions way too quickly.
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Cora can you expand this sentence about marv?
Marv, that entrance to the thread was really terrible and was only kind of rectified by your posts. In all honesty, you seem a bit hesitant to talk about anything else besides Yamato and that scares me a little.
What is terrible, what is good later?
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On June 22 2013 00:25 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2013 00:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
yeah cora, why did you tell yamato how to play? I'm not. I was just contrasting my experience with a town Yamato (Duel Mafia) and scum Mafia (Red Team's Prize). You are jumping to conclusions way too quickly.
You told yamato how to look town in your eyes.
That constitutes as telling yamato how to play. Do you think that was a good idea?
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On June 22 2013 00:26 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2013 00:25 cDgCorazon wrote:On June 22 2013 00:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
yeah cora, why did you tell yamato how to play? I'm not. I was just contrasting my experience with a town Yamato (Duel Mafia) and scum Mafia (Red Team's Prize). You are jumping to conclusions way too quickly. You told yamato how to look town in your eyes. That constitutes as telling yamato how to play. Do you think that was a good idea?
I love how you are taking my words literally. Do you really understand what I am saying?
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TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
played with yamato in British Empire (before I replaced out) and in LXI.
Now that I have checked them, we actually did not play as same alignment. But yeah, thats some leftover feelings from there.
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On June 22 2013 00:25 Oatsmaster wrote:Cora can you expand this sentence about marv? Show nested quote +Marv, that entrance to the thread was really terrible and was only kind of rectified by your posts. In all honesty, you seem a bit hesitant to talk about anything else besides Yamato and that scares me a little.
What is terrible, what is good later?
Well Marv's first post was an unexplained vote that he only gave explanation to when asked for.
The rest of his filter is him talking about why ShiaoPi is scum and why Yamato is town.
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Cora, i kinda think i do understand, but can you elaborate more because i also understand what Oats is saying and i agree with him.
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United Kingdom36161 Posts
The post from Corazon was terrible, given in my time in the thread you can discern that:
- i think hapa looks townish, for reasons given
- i think DP looks townish, for reason given
- i find Ange null
- i want to know what yamato expects from a town DP
- i find goodkarma's failure to understand Oats' thought process baffling
- i find shiaopi's comment on yamato scummy, which is explained
- i've commented on how i view coag's play so far
I've only been in the thread today with minimal other people posting, and he's worried I'm only talking about yamato, despite the fact that the sole reaosn I did so was to answer other people's questions? Severe case of bad reading comprehension right here.
ShiaoPi - so we have LXI where you were mafia, where presumably you knew his posts weren't scummy because you were scum, and British Empire, a game you replaced out. Seems like nothing to assert "yamato is pro at looking scummy as shit" don't you think? Could you tell me what you were hoping to achieve with whatever answers you were given to the question? Like I'm pretty wary over turning this into a tunnel over something relatively small, but if you're town you need to help clear this up for me.
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On June 22 2013 00:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2013 00:10 ShiaoPi wrote:sorry went off for a round of dota On June 21 2013 23:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So you agree you were saying something just for sake of saying something? The post I did was in order to verify if my impression of yamatos play is shared by everyone or at least some of the other players. so no that post was not only for the sake of saying something. On June 21 2013 23:14 marvellosity wrote:On June 21 2013 23:08 ShiaoPi wrote:
Because that is what yamato does (at least in my memory)? Yes, it does not help anyone to determine his alignment right now, but what did you expect, words of wisdom in every post I do on day 1? It's just something to keep in mind.
I am thinking you are blowing this way out of proportion When have you played with yamato that has given you this impression? Cannot pin point it to a certain game right now, would have to look in his game history again, but it is more I always feel like wanting to shoot him for some posts he does. take it as you want, I am really dont feel like like searching for specifics right now. Now on GK: The case on oats is bad since I have not seen anything really alignment indicative from oats right now. gk is just using oats playstyle against him to look contributing and scumhunting, usual scum motivation stuff. His play also feels a lot like I swear this is normal mini mafia, which just ended recently and where I and gk were scum. (minus the inactive replacement shenanis) Also gk is most surely familiar with oats' play so taking this "easy" target is something I think is clearly scummotivated The case on Oats is bad for sure. I'm just trying to figure out if it's scum!GK or town!GK doing this. You seem to be sure of him being scum because you have voted for him. It does not matter if GK has done this as scum, the question you did not answer is do you have evidence that he has not done this as town? Is your meta-case valid or not?
I think mainly based on gut feeling and comparison with the last game as scum we had together. Cant remember the last time goodkarma rolled town with me playing as well.
Also you just objectively judged that the case is terribad, so why do you need so much meta? Meta is much more of a helpful factor in my opinion not necessarily the argument to get somebody lynched. So I see gk doing that case on oats which is scummy as shit and then compare it to his play in I swear, I think its similar so it reinforces my scumread on him...
To be honest I don't even know what your problem is
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On June 22 2013 00:28 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2013 00:26 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 22 2013 00:25 cDgCorazon wrote:On June 22 2013 00:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
yeah cora, why did you tell yamato how to play? I'm not. I was just contrasting my experience with a town Yamato (Duel Mafia) and scum Mafia (Red Team's Prize). You are jumping to conclusions way too quickly. You told yamato how to look town in your eyes. That constitutes as telling yamato how to play. Do you think that was a good idea? I love how you are taking my words literally. Do you really understand what I am saying?
If yamato defends himself to the bitter end, you are inclined to think he is town.
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