Catch 22 Mafia - Page 23

On June 22 2013 00:56 ShiaoPi wrote:
@gk:
you can assume that i am scum if that pleases you, I dont really care?!
I don't see any difference in oats' play between here and I swear so I have him pretty firmly in town at the moment. Your case just looks like cooking up stuff, which is especially easy on oats since he is inconsistent and likes to switch his focus around a fair amount.

tell me about dramatically differences in oats play.

On June 22 2013 01:01 goodkarma wrote:


For one thing, he endlessly clung onto a scum target and spammed "kill him" much further explanation for half the game. He seemed just overall to be much more in your face with his reads than he is here. He feels a bit more distanced and level-headed here.

People say he's being dickish and arrogant, but this game he's been far more tame than last game.

On June 22 2013 01:01 marvellosity wrote:
Sylencia seems super-invested in this game ^^

On June 22 2013 01:02 marvellosity wrote:


Can you explain how the change is scum-motivated?

On June 22 2013 00:58 cDgCorazon wrote:


Well seeing as you've changed your read on me twice, I really can't take you seriously anymore.

On June 22 2013 01:05 ShiaoPi wrote:
@gk:
you are doing comparison wrong. compare d1 and d1 not n1/d2 when he locked onto you.

On June 22 2013 01:12 goodkarma wrote:


Well when I was ingame is what I'm the most familiar with, and what is fresh in my mind. I believe he was also especially dickish about his BH and Hapa reads last game day one. The point is here he's actually almost polite with his reads (again, compared to last game).

On June 22 2013 01:21 cDgCorazon wrote:
Yeah it's clear to me at this point that Oats is only trying to shit up the thread with stupid comments and not actually scumhunting.

This guy scum, we need to kill him.

On June 22 2013 01:14 marvellosity wrote:


The main issue with this is, GK, that your first couple of posts arising suspicion on Oats are primarily based on meta, or how you view his play last time he was town. The problem is, if you have selective/incomplete memory or you don't check, then it's at best not very useful at all, and at worst manipulative/deceitful. See what I'm saying?

On June 22 2013 01:25 goodkarma wrote:


This is obvious. I don't feel I've been misleading. He has been more level-headed this game...

On June 22 2013 01:02 ShiaoPi wrote:
@rayn:
Hapa needs to post more for me to make a good read on him. While I agree with the direction his play has been so far, I am used to more activity from his side, so I prefer waiting on him.

yamato is in null camp as I already said

Regarding ange, dunno about the internet problems and how much they interfere with her play, but so far not impressed.

These 3 are all nullish reads right now.

People I dislike are gk, sloosh and to a lesser extent syl

gk for reasons already stated.

sloosh flat out disappeared, from what I remember he was kind of lurky but not that bad and the more he lurks the likelier it is that he is scum.

syl has done nothing so far, but it is eerily similiar to his play in I swear. He was survivor there so might be something to consider.

On June 22 2013 01:29 marvellosity wrote:


A couple of things. Firstly I think pretty much everyone else in the game isn't detecting any particular major deviation in Oats' play from normal. That's fine maybe, maybe you got something subtle that the rest of us didn't. The problem arises when you bring Oats up as a suspect / scumread because of your meta-read (which Shiao pointed out didn't quite hold true during the D1 you were referring to). It's precisely why I asked how you felt the change was scum-motivated. If you're bringing up a scum suspect on the basis of meta, you need to explain why the differences you bring up make him scum and not playing a slightly different style. In short:

a) maybe he has been more level-headed (?) but it's early and it's not something I (and others are picking up)
b) even if he is, why does that make him scum

On June 22 2013 01:36 goodkarma wrote:


For the last time: His play felt different, and I was working to make sense of why. He is not currently a scumread for me.