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On June 30 2013 20:42 layabout wrote: As far as i can tell there are 14 people signed up + Show Spoiler + raynpelikoneet Meapak_Ziphh strongandbig VisceraEyes kushm4sta EchelonTee Adam4167 yamato77 Blazinghand sandroba layabout Vivax InsertSmurfHere Node of course many may have forgotten but we need another 7! 20 people signed up after adding Mr Wiggles and I, whom you have forgotten, as well as the four who have recently signed up. + Show Spoiler + raynpelikoneet Meapak_Ziphh strongandbig VisceraEyes kushm4sta EchelonTee Adam4167 yamato77 Blazinghand sandroba layabout Vivax InsertSmurfHere Node Mr Wiggles kholly DarthPunk Oatsmaster Blazinghand FirmTofu | ||
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On July 16 2013 12:43 DoctorHelvetica wrote: It's important that people are transparent about who they choose to PM. If you aren't, you better have a damn good reason not to. The only good reason for being secretive is that it would somehow reveal yourself as a blue or is necessary for your plans to catch scum. What are we looking for? Odd player choices. PMs are our chance to put direct pressure on people we have suspicions of without going over our post limits. If someone is trying to influence your opinions/manipulate you via PM you need to call them out in thread. If someone uses PMs to buddy to you by telling you they have complete trust that you are town, that's a red alarm. I don't see why town needs to have a PM line with another townie like that. I think discussing the PM dynamics and any plans/thoughts regarding it is a good starting off point for this game. ALSO - Look out for those who waste their post limits on empty posts/spam then make an excuse later. For example - "I had some good points to make yesterday but I went over post limit before I wrote my case and....." I think this is trap. Therefore, my day 1 lynch recommendation will be DoctorHelvetica. | ||
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Was going to vote this last night, but there was no voting thread. I will vote here as it seems everyone else is voting here. | ||
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On July 16 2013 12:43 DoctorHelvetica wrote: It's important that people are transparent about who they choose to PM. If you aren't, you better have a damn good reason not to. The only good reason for being secretive is that it would somehow reveal yourself as a blue or is necessary for your plans to catch scum. What are we looking for? Odd player choices. PMs are our chance to put direct pressure on people we have suspicions of without going over our post limits. If someone is trying to influence your opinions/manipulate you via PM you need to call them out in thread. If someone uses PMs to buddy to you by telling you they have complete trust that you are town, that's a red alarm. I don't see why town needs to have a PM line with another townie like that. I think discussing the PM dynamics and any plans/thoughts regarding it is a good starting off point for this game. ALSO - Look out for those who waste their post limits on empty posts/spam then make an excuse later. For example - "I had some good points to make yesterday but I went over post limit before I wrote my case and....." The bolded statement is what informed me that he is mafia. DoctorHelvetica is suppose to be a well known player, yet he is calling for people to roleclaim who they talk to? On July 16 2013 17:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: No, if someone gets anonymously pardoned the suspicion will obviously be on me. There is no reason i should have claimed as mafia. There is no reason i should have not claimed as town. Don't believe this guy. I read the Nuclear Winter Mafia game. On July 16 2013 21:16 Oatsmaster wrote: wtf is this bullshit. Total fucking retardness. Malongo, Koshi and kholly, start playing the game. Kholly, why is DrH scum? Also there is a voting thread. Malongo, why is MZ being polarizing a scumtell? Koshi, why waste 5% of your limit on a useless post? Absolutely USELESS. Ok so scumteam is probably, VE, sloosh, FT and other dudes. Everyone else that has posted I think is town. Anyone that has strong disagreements for any of my reads, please explain why. Using bad language doesn't get town anywhere. Thanks for pointing out that there is a voting thread. I didn't see it as it was far down the list. It is now bumped thanks to me. Oats, you should understand that I am playing the game. As you can tell, I am a very efficient scumhunter. Are you scared of this fake and trying to use aggression to get me to conform to the mafia ideals? I would like to say that I will not listen to the threats of terrorists. I will not be bullied. If you are mafia, you should kill you own mafia members for town credit as you always do in most of your games. Vote DH. | ||
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On July 16 2013 21:53 raynpelikoneet wrote: Does this make me mafia somehow and if it does, how exactly? So you are voting for DrH because he is telling people to tell the thread who are they masoned with? If that's true, what do you think of other people who agree with this idea. Me & Hapa mainly? yamato, why are you not voting for VE if you think he is scum? MZ, does yamatos "horrible post" make him mafia? What exactly is horrible in that post? On July 16 2013 22:43 gumshoe wrote: I played the nuclear mafia game, and the game before with him as town. Both times he got into early conflicts like this by being transparent. Also how is the nuclear mafia game indicative of his scum play? He was town. In regards to pms, what does mafia learn by knowing whose pming who? Absolutely nothing, the whole point of pms is that mafia can no longer benefit from certain discussions in any way. Unless scum is being pmed in which case they already know and are already privy to the conversation. How is knowing whose communicating with who more useful for scum then town? If town knows they can co-ordinate a chain, ie I mason D.H then D.H chains oats and oats can pm me through the intermediately (oats mentioned everything one pming him making him the universal intermediatery but thats dumb, and risky). Naturally though the chain requires trust like all things but when done right it allows a certain degree of thread coordination. The only threat of being open is mafia disrupting pm relationships. This is actually a bit of a problem seeing as we only get one pm, which is why I suggest not mass masoning D.H or someone else, if you must pm an intermediatery you trust. Other stuff. Tofu: The argument that he pre typed his first post therefore its bad is silly, he ultimately decided to post it. Which is all that really matters, from there just ask yourself, did you find his post helpful? Was it maybe scum trying to comment on setup for easy townie points? Maybe, I personally think his thoughts were helpful (ie the growing risk of the traitor, therefore best to tackle him when he reaches his personal zenith) but if your going to attack him about the post do it for valid reasons. D.H, Im really going to be wary of people who try to spend alot of there posts early in the day cycle, which Dh has, not being able to fight back is a great excuse and paints the accuser as a villain, im sure at least one or two scum will attempt something of this vien before the games through. His commenting on pming is fine, neither her nor there, its setup stuff to get the ball rolling but the point is hes getting the ball rolling. Which is townie to an extent. What I also really like is that he pressed Tofu and then backed off when he was satisfied with tofus response people please do not leave accusations hanging in the air, they will burn posts and actively hurt town, this interaction (Tofu posts, dh pressures, tofu explains, dh absolves) is the model for how interactions should go between townies if they have a grievance with one another. I think Dh's behaviour here strikes me as a townie trying to get the most out of as little as possible, so he reads green to me for now. Thats about it. To be clear, the only person I called scum this whole game is Dr.H. I just said I wouldn't trust rayne and I was referring to a game where he was town. what does mafia learn by knowing whose pming who? I won't go into details; it would only hurt town. This is an extremely deadly tool in the hands of a mafia player who knows what he is doing. PS: Dr.H doesn't even follow his on advice. | ||
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On July 16 2013 23:16 gumshoe wrote: I dont care what game you think your playing but were going to need more than that, transparency between townies still matters, dont breadcrumb unless your willing to spit out whatever your trying to say or pm it to the relevant party. And even despite that hiding behind pms is not townie play and I will press anyone who also feels the need to do the above in a smartass way. You are also implying that only a vote backed by an accusation matters, which is bullshit, scum want to throw as much at the fan as possible without getting any backlash and casually calling people scummy without voting them is a great way to do so. I didn't vote for him is a terrible defence. I will vote for you though until you can explain what you mean in thread or through a pm to me or someone I trust, and back up/ drop your Rayne shitflinging. ##Vote: Kholly What do you think about the concept that scum can only mason 1 person as opposed to town being about to mason two? Oh and don't worry, I'm talking to town.  | ||
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On July 17 2013 07:12 raynpelikoneet wrote: rofl, fu scum. I am now confirmed town. I am (was) in PM contact with Oats. gumshoe chose to mason me. Logs will be provided no later than N1. Both of gumshoe and Oats are town for sure, so is DrH. Did gumshoe recruit you as traitor? | ||
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On July 16 2013 22:43 gumshoe wrote: I played the nuclear mafia game, and the game before with him as town. Both times he got into early conflicts like this by being transparent. Also how is the nuclear mafia game indicative of his scum play? He was town. In regards to pms, what does mafia learn by knowing whose pming who? Absolutely nothing, the whole point of pms is that mafia can no longer benefit from certain discussions in any way. Unless scum is being pmed in which case they already know and are already privy to the conversation. How is knowing whose communicating with who more useful for scum then town? If town knows they can co-ordinate a chain, ie I mason D.H then D.H chains oats and oats can pm me through the intermediately (oats mentioned everything one pming him making him the universal intermediatery but thats dumb, and risky). Naturally though the chain requires trust like all things but when done right it allows a certain degree of thread coordination. The only threat of being open is mafia disrupting pm relationships. This is actually a bit of a problem seeing as we only get one pm, which is why I suggest not mass masoning D.H or someone else, if you must pm an intermediatery you trust. Other stuff. Tofu: The argument that he pre typed his first post therefore its bad is silly, he ultimately decided to post it. Which is all that really matters, from there just ask yourself, did you find his post helpful? Was it maybe scum trying to comment on setup for easy townie points? Maybe, I personally think his thoughts were helpful (ie the growing risk of the traitor, therefore best to tackle him when he reaches his personal zenith) but if your going to attack him about the post do it for valid reasons. D.H, Im really going to be wary of people who try to spend alot of there posts early in the day cycle, which Dh has, not being able to fight back is a great excuse and paints the accuser as a villain, im sure at least one or two scum will attempt something of this vien before the games through. His commenting on pming is fine, neither her nor there, its setup stuff to get the ball rolling but the point is hes getting the ball rolling. Which is townie to an extent. What I also really like is that he pressed Tofu and then backed off when he was satisfied with tofus response people please do not leave accusations hanging in the air, they will burn posts and actively hurt town, this interaction (Tofu posts, dh pressures, tofu explains, dh absolves) is the model for how interactions should go between townies if they have a grievance with one another. I think Dh's behaviour here strikes me as a townie trying to get the most out of as little as possible, so he reads green to me for now. Thats about it. I think it is a good time to answer your question now. I heard it from you. Scum. | ||
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On July 17 2013 11:55 gumshoe wrote: Ooooooooh you were responding to me, yeah my bad, I made a mistake early on, didn't bother clarifying, if you wanna vote me for it be my guest, also why won't you mason me? I know why you can't mason me. lol. | ||
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On July 17 2013 11:42 VisceraEyes wrote: I think in that second quote you attributed one of Rayn's quotes to gumshoe didn't you MZ? Kinda cornfusing because of the quotefail in there, but I think it was Rayn who said that sir. So, what do you think of Gumshoe ruining your plan about having town hold back a mason in order to blend in with mafia? | ||
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On July 17 2013 13:27 kushm4sta wrote: 4th post I think 2 completely inconsequential comments: why is the new meta on this site writing complicated, long shit that you need amazing reading comprehension to even understand? also 20 posts is way too much. I mean I have no fear to post retarded shit like this because i still have at least 15 more posts which I will never even come close to using today This guy has to be town. He understand the scum's strategy to clutter the thread with walls of text. | ||
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On July 18 2013 10:26 DoctorHelvetica wrote: God, I'm not keeping track of my own posts. Your logic is easier for me to follow in this game and I don't disagree with anything you've said. This lynch reminds me of GMarshal in "the Game" where people just started saying "Hey X is acting kinda different, lynch him!" and not actually paying attention to anything he is saying Why are you not even trying to follow the post count restriction? Based on the host's own words, I would consider you an exceptionally bad player. 37 posts already. On July 16 2013 12:28 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: During the day, a player may give 5 of their posts to another player in the game. A single player can only receive at most 5 posts per cycle. The posting restriction will be enforced in a semi strict manner. I'm not going to modkill you immediately, but I will warn first and depending on the second offense it could be a modkill, or a second warning. Obviously going over by one or two posts is not a huge deal but going over by 5-10 posts would be considered exceptionally bad. I would also like the accusations against me that I am scum because I am connected to the player Chezinu. My username obviously says kholly. I am not Chezinu, I am not chez, I am not knolly, nor kolly. I would really appreciate it if people would not hold me to the standards of other players. | ||
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On July 18 2013 11:41 Malongo wrote: Meh he is the second to claim anyways. Old retards, new retards... no difference. I don't like the fact that VE thinks you are scum. That's what caught my attention. Then he pulls a judge? Its not like he is a detective. | ||
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On July 19 2013 05:48 Korynne wrote: I'm totally listening to that song right now because of you Ace, thanks. Also wtf yeah gumshoe why were you so harsh? o-O I was merely asking why you were pushing for people to specifically mason you when they didn't know who to mason, instead of their most town read for example. I have no idea why you would react that harshly towards me because of such a simple question. >_<;; Also I never said Rayn was my scummiest read. I just found his play very weird and wanted to get a better understanding of why he did certain actions because I would not have done so in his position if I was town. Also please don't be a hypocrite. Telling me that calling townies bad (I said he was either really good scum or a bad townie) when you literally say "as scum or town you are the worst kind of player" and you're the one saying "pretty much extrapolates my being incompetent from a single thing that they personally didn't like or found distasteful." I never said you're incompetent or even remotely hinted at it, I merely asked you a question. No I don't have a case against you, I was never trying to make one. Why the hell are you putting quotes around something I never /ever/ said?? I NEVER said I didn't like you, I NEVER said you had no mason buddies. What the fuck. I never wasted space posting this, I spend 2 lines asking you a question, and now you flipped your shit at me... What I'm saying with the VE lynch was that 1. VE did not try to kill himself (duh) he was just picking MZ over Sloosh, 2. knolly probably didn't know that VE changed his vote that late (I didn't see your post when I posted mine and even refreshed after) so I don't think it was to kill VE. Last minute votes are always going to be heavily scrutinized and that's about the stupidest way you could try to kill day vigi as scum. (Personally I'd probably just AFK after the claim so I didn't have to change my vote from VE, or after enough momentum builds on MZ come in and say oh no guys we can't lynch VE #unvote) Again I don't know why you have so much disdain for me for the 2 lines of text I wrote, as a question, directed to you. D: There's no reason for this kind of language "want me to respond to some idiotic far fetched idea of yours" and assume all this shit when I was just asking a question. Holy shit. "Other wise give your posts to somebody who actually knows whats going on, cause you clearly dont." "but please for the love of Palmer stop calling people who you think are townie bad, you damage him and yourself when you do so and you risk more worthless posts." Are you fucking serious gumshoe? I would like an apology for your hypocritical ass. And yes, this post is mostly fluff and directed at gumshoe because I am slightly emotionally distraught at this shit. It's been a while since I've played mafia, I come back and some guy calls me completely fucking useless from 3 posts and a question I directed at him. I'm not going to use up 10 posts tonight, so yes I am going to use 10% of my posts to talk to you gumshoe because as a human being you have upset me. >_> I believe that you are on to something. I have a hypothesis that part of the mafia agenda this game is to label veteran players as new players and label new players as veterans. This way the new players don't listen to the veterans and they have excuses to kill the new players for playing below the standards of a veteran player. I totally agreed on the language issue too. However, I have noticed that you used the s-word, the f-word, and the a-word. I will like to give you encouragement in order to resist the urge to counteract their abuse of the English language with the very same flaws they adhere to. Yes, ending the sentence with a preposition will be an excellent counter. I congratulate you on the exquisite use of Palmar. The love of Palmar will surely pull on the heart strings of your opponent. I know your upset, but you have to remember to stay calm. I have been dealing with him in PMs for quite some time now. His obsession of me is greater than you can understand. He loves calling me a traitor. His attraction to the traitor role seems to be no bound. If you really want to make him happy, let him know how much you think he is mafia. Inform him that regardless of his alignment that you still love him despite how much he upsets you. Gumshoe, I am sure, deep down inside cares about you. Sometimes a role can blind a man and sometimes ignorance of a role blinds him. | ||
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On July 19 2013 07:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: That's beautiful FT, I'm glad some people use their brains. That's hilarious. | ||
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On July 19 2013 12:26 kholly wrote: DoctorHelvetica VayneAuthority FirmTofu oh oops fixed. Why they are they bussing eachother? | ||
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On July 19 2013 14:41 Korynne wrote: Uh... wat. Ace - Can you tell us more about your role? Is it alignment only? Is it role and alignment? Is it role only? (I mean you said guilty, you didn't say exactly what) Also why are you claiming right now? With PM and enough people already doubting FT in the thread there's no reason to reveal yourself... Uhh also why did Malongo say FT and then Ace said "good enough guess" and then voted for FT... This all looks rather fishy. >_<;; What if he is just a voice for the real detective? | ||
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Vivax was checked last night. He is mafia. | ||
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On July 20 2013 11:58 Adam4167 wrote: Lets take this a step further. Even assuming that kholly is Chezinu - Is this your meta read, or someone else's? I don't think you've played more than one game with Chezinu and from what I can see, hes still unflipped in that game. So how in the shite can you have a meta read on him if you're working with a sample of 1 game where hes not even dead. If you're using someone else's meta read to justify your lynch on a player, when you don't even believe meta is a credible tool, why wouldn't you just say 'He scum because he votes like shit and doesn't scum hunt. The End."? cause he's mafia? | ||
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ARGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!! THATS IT!!!!!!! YOU GOOD FOR NOTHING MAFIA HAS KILLED THE LAST PERSON WHO HAS PMED ME!!!! CHEZINU IS HERE AND ITS ALL YOU FAULT!!!!!! | ||
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I ARE ALONE!!!! I R WARNED YOU!!! I R SAID I R GO CRAZY IN THREAD IF YOU R DIE!!! AND YOU R DEAD NOW!!!!!!! WHYYYYY!!!!!!! | ||
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Original Message From Ace: but how can you see their hearts if you are blinded by faith? -ConfuciAce Original Message From Ace: yooooooo To: Ace [ Profile | Buddy | Report ] Subject: Malongo Saves Date: 7/19/13 08:14 Judge has died today. Broken the 3-way tie. Vote for the lynched = The Numbers of Mafia. History repeats. Lynch for info or lynch to save. This time info was chosen. However, the DT was saved. Spread across the voting thread, I see the votes of red. This time Malongo was saved. With Malongo saved, will the mad detective appear? Or will another? We will see. We will see. Unless the roles have really blinded us. We won't see. We won't see. | ||
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On July 20 2013 12:43 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Fuck the one person who was actually paying attention :/ Were you talking to Ace... before he died? *cries* What was his last words to you? | ||
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MZ vs FT lynch time!!!! YEEEHAAAWW!!!!!! | ||
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Everyone I have spoken to was sad. Circles... they die when connected to me. In case you guys don't like me: + Show Spoiler + From: FirmTofu [ 706 posts | Profile | Buddy | Report ] Subject: My Death Date: 7/20/13 13:33 When I die, will you honor me? Tell them that I targeted DrH night 1. I love you Chez <3 | ||
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On July 21 2013 06:16 Vivax wrote: Guys, I understand that you want to start from some of the guys who post most, but I think it's of much importance to start by lynching Chez, out of the whole bunch. The ideal play would be to lynch Chez cause however long he stays alive, he won't be giving us more information, and the more time passes, the more reluctant people will become to lynch him, cause they feel they want to use the lynch one someone "better" (since trolls are always seen as second class lynches), this effect will become stronger over time. Chez also fakeclaimed a red check on me, and has to die, and if he claims it didn't come from him, I want to know who he's masoned with, at the very least (it's already ridiculous a DT would reveal Chez his identity and results, considering how he trolled gumshoe in the PMs posted earlier). Layabout, SlOosh, S & B. These guys will give us more to work with, and will eventually make mistakes. Someone like Chez can't do mistakes, cause he only posts garbage. For now, it's of utmost importance that these three start delivering as much insight as possible, especially on each other. S & B -again- isn't mentioning anything about his conversation with SlOosh. He has been masoned with him for ages now and they're both under suspicion and he's still not trying to bring any clarification into the situation between them. S & B, what did you gain from your conversation with SlOosh, what made you decide was worthy to give up your suspicion of him since N1? Ace started it. Maybe this time confirmed town won't get modkilled. | ||
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On July 21 2013 06:44 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Dr. H, where's your head at? You haven't posted since Ace was shot and FirmTofu flipped town. The big thing you were pushing for was a FirmTofu lynch, but now he's dead. So, what are your thoughts now? Who do you think is the best choice to lynch? Remember guys, the only person I called scum this game in the thread was Dr. Evil. | ||
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On July 21 2013 08:02 Korynne wrote: Sloosh - Can you post your logs with SnB? - Can you post your reads? Give as much reasoning as possible, but given how afk you'd been I don't expect Vivax style posts. I feel comfortable lynching Sloosh if he doesn't respond. I was reading the NWM and this was the tactic the scum team used in that game. They tried to postpoint dandelion's lynch and used the excuse that he was inactive. People also didn't want to lynch Chezinu that game because they wanted to hear his response. If you read the scum topic that game, Chezinu purposely went inactive because he knew if he answered questions that he would get lynched. Have you ever considered the possibility that he is lurking on purpose in order to give away as little information as possible? A better approach would to start lynching him until he comes out. However, if he is a genuine lurker that is just posting enough to avoid getting lynched. Then we have a problem. But this is a PM game. If he is actively talking in PMs, we could possibly let him live. The point I'm making is that those are brilliant questions to ask but that last statement allows Sloosh to live by not responding. You need to be more threatening. If he doesn't post the PMs, he is dead! +towncredit for at least devising a plan to get Sloosh to respond. | ||
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On July 21 2013 09:46 Malongo wrote: I think Sloosh is town, my top two mafia reads are VayneAuthority and marvellosity, layabout comes close in third place. This guy understands, kind of. I could be bias. Malongo Saves! | ||
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On July 21 2013 10:22 strongandbig wrote: ##vite: aloosh dat is corec.r ausd for yare dru nak them mafia can't kills I no I maean the tow n cna't kills you. nice shlt . You g ets it? Likw a shot as in you drink. *:SChes* | ||
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DoctorHelvetica Marvellosity Strongandbig people to look at: Oatsmaster raynpelikoneet Adam4167 | ||
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On July 21 2013 15:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote: No one is going to kill me. I was out of town today and it was on short notice. I'll catch up with this thread by the end of Night 2. Sorry everyone. If you consider that, you're dumb. You don't think scum will kill you for me? Don't forget you were in jail yesterday. You can thank FirmTofu for that. | ||
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Players that have used the word dumb this game: layabout strongandbig Vivax Meapak_Ziphh DoctorHelvetica raynpelikoneet gumshoe VisceraEyes HiroPro PS: There could be more Yeah, I'm not doing so good this game. Look at me, I am now just searching random words. How is this productive at all? Maybe if Chezinu made lists like he did in NWM where everyone loved them, perhaps people will think he is town. Cause right now, he is totally on the wrong path. Mafia could give him a mercy kill because he is playing so badly. | ||
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On July 22 2013 08:52 Vivax wrote: Fuck forgot to spiler the previous on. Oh well. + Show Spoiler + [13:04] <@marvelbabe> trying to remember what batch of newbie numbers he was around [13:04] <@marvelbabe> sometime around 30 maybe [13:17] <@Pasta> Tell me if you think this is scum-scum please [13:17] <@Pasta> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=414884¤tpage=18#341 [13:20] <@marvelbabe> hmm [13:20] <@marvelbabe> first paragraph seems more like scum-town, second more like scum-scum [13:28] <@Pasta> should have catched yamato right there [13:28] <@Pasta> has MZ as scum [13:28] <@Pasta> asks FT to read Oats [13:28] <@Pasta> completely random [13:29] <@marvelbabe> easy in hindsight my dear [13:29] <@marvelbabe> at the time you can always rationalise it away [13:29] <@marvelbabe> pretty sure you could find plenty of townies doing equally weird things [13:29] <@Pasta> yeah, it's pure hindisght [13:30] <@Pasta> but tells us what we have to look for [13:30] <@Pasta> in parrt [13:30] <@Pasta> people who don't seem to value their own scumreads [13:30] <@Pasta> koshi's stuff with VE is basically analogous [13:32] <@marvelbabe> that's not correct logic [13:32] <@marvelbabe> because one scum person did something doesn't mean it's a scumteam-s mantra [13:33] <@Pasta> this is getting somewhat into our heuristics [13:33] <@Pasta> but scum make their shit up [13:33] <@Pasta> they lack conviction behind it [13:33] <@Pasta> and might make the mistake to forget their later play to their previous reads [13:33] <@Pasta> to forgoet to adapt* [13:34] <@Pasta> if you pushed VE but decided not to vote him for some reason [13:34] <@Pasta> and later I ask you [13:34] <@Pasta> "Can you think of guys posting arguments against VE but not voting for him"? [13:34] <@Pasta> and you reply "Nah idk" [13:35] <@Pasta> It means you don't rememeber your previous attitude [13:35] <@Pasta> scum doesn't have real attitudes [13:35] <@marvelbabe> or it means he didn't view himself that way [13:36] <@Pasta> I also don't understand [13:37] <@Pasta> he posted arguments for VE being scum [13:37] <@Pasta> usually, when it turns out you're wrong, that leaves you some justification for the guy being lynched [13:37] <@Pasta> or better [13:38] <@Pasta> even if VE was mislynched, he should have been at least a little of the opinion that the guys lynching him had some point [13:38] <@marvelbabe> :/ [13:38] <@marvelbabe> i'm not getting any of this [13:38] <@marvelbabe> i think he's fine [13:38] <@Pasta> well he posted arguments for VE being scum [13:38] <@Pasta> but doesn't see where the guys lynching him come from [13:39] <@Pasta> and agrees that it was a scum bandwagon [13:39] <@marvelbabe> if he's scum then he's magically taken the 100% opposite attitude to the other game where he's scum [13:39] <@marvelbabe> so he's not very interesting to me right now [13:39] <@Pasta> not reading that game [13:39] <@Pasta> might do [13:39] <@Pasta> Other thing: [13:40] <@Pasta> He thinks FT is scum [13:40] <@Pasta> So I ask him about SlOosh [13:40] <@Pasta> cause he agrees that scum was on VE [13:40] <@Pasta> but FT was on SlOosh! [13:40] <@marvelbabe> so???? [13:40] <@Pasta> He doesn't use that to get a read on sloosh [13:41] <@Pasta> like [13:41] <@Pasta> "It's unlikely scum would end on scum when they could lynch the vig" [13:42] <@marvelbabe> ok [13:42] <@Pasta> I miss the thinking process I would expect from a townie with those reads [13:42] <@marvelbabe> i think you miss YOUR thinking process [13:43] <@Pasta> i might not explain it well [13:43] <@marvelbabe> you explain it fine [13:43] <@marvelbabe> i just don't attach what you attach to it [13:43] <@marvelbabe> i'm sitting here going "meh... maaaaaybe... but eh" [11:35] <Pasta> Hey, I have been masoned by someone else in the meantime [11:35] <Pasta> will tell you soon [11:35] <Pasta> what do you think happened tonight [11:35] <Pasta> how is it possible that two scum die [11:35] <Pasta> btw the guy who masoned me [11:36] <Pasta> you will find interesting [11:37] <Pasta> also, need your conversations with yamato please [11:37] <@marvelbabe> hey [11:37] <@marvelbabe> they're in-thread [11:37] <Pasta> ah [11:37] <Pasta> well, did you check out his filter post-flip? [11:37] <Pasta> there are two interesting interactions [11:37] <@marvelbabe> naw [11:38] <@marvelbabe> no-one else masoned me [11:38] <@marvelbabe> i'm salty [11:38] <Pasta> lol [11:38] <@marvelbabe> oh [11:38] <@marvelbabe> rofl [11:38] <Pasta> wiggles didn't reply yet [11:39] <@marvelbabe> so [11:39] <@marvelbabe> did hiro genuinely believe sloosh mafia [11:40] <Pasta> trying to remember [11:40] <Pasta> lost the fucking logs [11:40] <Pasta> sigh [11:40] <@marvelbabe> good job [11:40] <@marvelbabe> you still got ours? [11:40] <Pasta> yeah [11:40] <@marvelbabe> phew [11:41] <@marvelbabe> i didn't save [11:41] <@marvelbabe> could you send me at some point [11:41] <@marvelbabe> not urgent [11:41] <Pasta> irc needs some function [11:41] <Pasta> need to ask palmar if he can write us some script that saves chat automatically [11:41] <Pasta> lol [11:42] <Pasta> anyway [11:42] <Pasta> I know, Hiro suspected everyone on VE wagon [11:42] <Pasta> except for yam and Oats [11:42] <Pasta> I think I told you in chat yesterday too [11:43] <Pasta> he didn't like the scum FT idea [11:43] <Pasta> nor the S & B scum [11:43] <Pasta> nor was he keen on lynching ace [11:45] <@marvelbabe> yea [11:45] <@marvelbabe> it's hard to workout his motives [11:45] <@marvelbabe> i think if i were traitor [11:45] <@marvelbabe> i'd genuinely scumhunt [11:46] <@Pasta> if he joined mafia [11:46] <@Pasta> wouldn't he have flipped red [11:46] <@Pasta> don't think he became part of their team [11:48] <@Pasta> man, my mason partner is so scummy [11:48] <@marvelbabe> no he hadn't joined [11:48] <@marvelbabe> i'd bet a lot of money on that [11:48] <@marvelbabe> lol who is your partner? [11:48] <@Pasta> take a guess [11:49] <@Pasta> no, not ft [11:49] <@Pasta> anyway, I suspect FT is town now [11:49] <@Pasta> from reading yamato [11:50] <@marvelbabe> eh [11:50] <@marvelbabe> there's a redcheck [11:50] <@Pasta> WHAT [11:50] <@Pasta> where's the redcheck [11:51] <@Pasta> must be legit then [11:51] <@Pasta> But I can't get out of my head that SlOosh is scum [11:52] <@Pasta> and FT ended up on hi [11:52] <@Pasta> m [11:53] <@Pasta> lol it's from ace [11:53] <@marvelbabe> yea... [11:53] <@Pasta> you didn't seriously believe that [11:53] <@marvelbabe> why not [11:53] <@Pasta> come on marv [11:54] <@marvelbabe> what? [11:54] <@marvelbabe> he said he had a redcheck [11:54] <@marvelbabe> i'm not going to assume he's lying [11:54] <@Pasta> And will laugh his ass off if we follow it [11:54] <@marvelbabe> i disagree. [11:55] <@Pasta> well I'm not trusting that claim [11:55] <@Pasta> do what you will [11:56] <@Pasta> we will have to agree on disagreeing [11:56] <@marvelbabe> i'm happy for a 1 for 1 [11:56] <@marvelbabe> with kholly as a further banker [11:57] <@marvelbabe> i play mafia much simpler than you vivax :p [11:58] <@Pasta> meaning the claimß [11:58] <@Pasta> ? [11:58] <@marvelbabe> yeah and in general [11:58] <@marvelbabe> i conspiracy less [11:59] <@marvelbabe> how exciting [11:59] <@Pasta> good [12:03] <@marvelbabe> so [12:04] <@Pasta> guess u wanna know mine now [12:04] <@Pasta> Also giving you the logs [12:04] <@Pasta> but honestly [12:05] <@Pasta> this guy either is genuinely quite non-caring about the game [12:05] <@Pasta> or he doesn't have a straight story [12:05] <@Pasta> you'll see [12:05] <@Pasta> he also takes quite a while to respond to stuff [12:05] <@Pasta> avoids some questions [12:05] <@Pasta> telling you cause you don't see it in the chat maybew [12:07] <@Pasta> SENT [12:07] <@Pasta> now read it please [12:09] <@marvelbabe> ok [12:09] <@marvelbabe> just been carrying parcels, exhausting [12:11] <@marvelbabe> oh koshi [12:11] <@marvelbabe> i hadn't thought much of him [12:13] <@marvelbabe> LOL [12:13] <@marvelbabe> i like this from him tbh  [12:13] <@marvelbabe> [11:17] <@Pasta> when i asked for reads [11:17] <@Pasta> you didn't say ace [11:17] <Koshi> Ace and Malongo are just being jackasses [11:17] <Koshi> I don't know what to say [11:17] <@Pasta> don't you think jackasses can be scum? [11:17] <Koshi> Sure. But what else is there to say. [12:13] <@Pasta> he had forgotten [12:13] <@Pasta> he had pushed ve [12:14] <@Pasta> but not voted for him [12:14] <@Pasta> what guy forgets the people he made cases on [12:15] <@marvelbabe> oh that's what that is [12:15] <@marvelbabe> wait what [12:16] <@marvelbabe> what timestamp? [12:17] <@Pasta> 11:34 [12:17] <@marvelbabe> oh [12:17] <@marvelbabe> not there yet [12:17] <@marvelbabe> ok, no wonder my confusion :D [12:19] <@marvelbabe> [11:40] <Koshi> Nha, at this point I understand that I am super pro town looking. So you asking me questions is always good. [11:40] <Koshi> not super pro town* [12:19] <@marvelbabe> best typo [12:20] <@marvelbabe> i still don't think he's scum [12:20] <@marvelbabe> then again i didn't think yamato was scum either [12:21] <@marvelbabe> i think i'm blinded by Nuclear to an extent [12:22] <@marvelbabe> if he's town here, to an extent he's similar to me, which is unlike the large majority of people [12:23] <@marvelbabe> vivax [12:23] <@Pasta> meh [12:23] <@Pasta> did he mason you [12:24] <@marvelbabe> o [12:24] <@marvelbabe> k [12:24] <@marvelbabe> i ask because he just asked me about koshi [12:25] <@marvelbabe> he said to me [12:25] <@marvelbabe> that he thinks koshi looks bad but he doesn't think he's mafia [12:26] <@marvelbabe> or precisely [12:26] <@marvelbabe> "What are your thoughts on Koshi? His opening post was bad. His vote on Rayne was equally as bad. His followup list of reads were pretty terrible. And yet I cant help but feel like he may not actually be scum." [12:28] <@Pasta> he needs the logs then [12:28] <@Pasta> kinda weird for koshi to pick me as mason partner if he's scum though [12:28] <@Pasta> idk [12:29] <@Pasta> there are probably lazier targets [12:29] <@Pasta> who aren't as active at asking questions [12:29] <@marvelbabe> yeah [12:29] <@marvelbabe> i think you're a particularly terrible choice for a scummer [12:29] <@marvelbabe> because you're relentless :p [12:34] <@marvelbabe> then again koshi may be too new to know that [12:34] <@marvelbabe> although i guess scum would discuss their mason targets [12:34] <@marvelbabe> i wonder if at some indeterminate point in the game, everyone should be saying who they masoned [12:36] <@marvelbabe> "And I think I like Koshi a lot better after reading that. He seems genuinely lost, which is understandable in this environment." [12:37] <@Pasta> you two didn't see how he hesitates though [12:37] <@Pasta> didn't look at all like he would talk of stuff he finds interesting [12:37] <@Pasta> on his own [12:38] <@Pasta> im really not sure what to make of this ace claim [12:38] <@Pasta> the guy says you should never claim as dt [12:39] <@Pasta> imo he just wants to do the same shit as in roulette [12:39] <@Pasta> for super insane mode, maybe he does it on his scumbuddy [12:39] <@Pasta> lol [12:39] <@marvelbabe> it's possible [12:39] <@marvelbabe> naw [12:39] <@marvelbabe> ace would never do that [12:39] <@Pasta> but he's not trusted [12:39] <@Pasta> he knows it [12:39] <@marvelbabe> you're right, it IS a possibility that he's pulling a Roulette [12:40] <@marvelbabe> but if I can hit FT + Ace + Kholly in the next 3 lynches [12:40] <@marvelbabe> and hit 2 mafia [12:40] <@marvelbabe> that's just dandy [12:40] <@marvelbabe> with yamato/hiro dying [12:40] <@marvelbabe> we're in a decent spot [12:40] <@Pasta> wtf happened there [12:40] <@Pasta> i still don't get it [12:40] <@Pasta> some super leet vigi [12:41] <@marvelbabe> yeah [12:42] <@marvelbabe> like i said in thread [12:42] <@marvelbabe> i think it'd be hilarious if hiro was a scumhit [12:42] <@Pasta> yeah [12:42] <@Pasta> maybe scum decided to hit him once they saw the logs I passed to you [12:42] <@Pasta>  [12:43] <@marvelbabe> lol [12:43] <@marvelbabe> that must be it. [12:44] <@Pasta> yes [12:44] <@Pasta> Iknew it all along [12:44] <@Pasta> it's always you marv [12:44] <@Pasta> pulling the strings [12:44] <@marvelbabe>  [12:45] <@marvelbabe> i am a good string puller [12:45] <@Pasta> wish I knew what that menas [12:45] <@marvelbabe> lol [12:45] <@marvelbabe> it means i'm good at organising/planning as mafia [12:45] <@Pasta> ah ok [12:45] <@Pasta> yeah well [12:45] <@Pasta> unless you got chez in team [12:45] <@Pasta> he does what he pleases [12:46] <@marvelbabe> i've had chez on my team [12:46] <@marvelbabe> and a totally inactive talis [12:46] <@Pasta> im sorry for that [12:46] <@marvelbabe> i won easily obvs [12:46] <@Pasta> lol [12:46] <@marvelbabe> but no help from those 2 [12:46] <@marvelbabe> Chez is really good fun in scumQT [12:46] <@marvelbabe> but useless in thread [12:46] <@marvelbabe> he basically just did last-minute votes [12:47] <@marvelbabe> talis just afk-ed [12:47] <@marvelbabe> managed to keep talis alive until day 4 and chez survived to endgame with me [12:48] <@Pasta> you manage to keep thread presence without taking responsibility very well [12:48] <@Pasta> or better [12:48] <@Pasta> without getting your hands too dirty [12:49] <@Pasta> anyway [12:49] <@Pasta> i wanna talk to wiggles [12:49] <@Pasta> he disappeared [12:49] <@marvelbabe> what do you think of Korynne? [12:50] <@marvelbabe> i'm leaning dumb townie [12:50] <@Pasta> i said something about him [12:50] <@Pasta> i found his entrance townie [12:50] <@Pasta> it was during N1 [12:50] <@marvelbabe> oh it was you i talked to about him [12:50] <@marvelbabe> couldn't remember if it was you or gumshoe [12:50] <@Pasta> ill send you the logs [12:50] <@marvelbabe> did he get off his rayn tunnel yet? [12:51] <@marvelbabe> didn't really read his last post [12:51] <@Pasta> idk [12:52] <@Pasta> sent logs [12:52] <@marvelbabe> god [12:52] <@marvelbabe> we talked a lot [12:53] <@marvelbabe> there's some missing at the end? [12:53] <@Pasta> well, today's [12:53] <@marvelbabe> no [12:53] <@marvelbabe> there was more last night [12:53] <@Pasta> didn't it stop with me sending logs to hiro? [12:53] <@Pasta> I recall it being the last stuff [12:53] <@marvelbabe> nay [12:54] <@marvelbabe> nono [12:54] <@Pasta> sigh [12:54] <@marvelbabe> [17:37] <marvelbabe> I feel like i'm missing something important [12:54] <@marvelbabe> because after that [12:54] <@marvelbabe> i remember what it was [12:54] <@marvelbabe> talked about that [12:54] <@marvelbabe> then we talked more about what hiro was saying [12:54] <@marvelbabe> it's not the end of the world, that's the meat of it [12:54] <@Pasta> oh yeah [12:54] <@Pasta> i got it [12:54] <@Pasta> somehow didn't get selected [12:55] <@Pasta> sent [12:55] <@marvelbabe> cool [12:55] <@marvelbabe> my memory isn't gash after all lol [12:56] <@Pasta> I miss my old memory [12:56] <@Pasta> already feeling old just for that [12:56] <@Pasta> at 24 [12:57] <@marvelbabe> yeah [12:57] <@marvelbabe> 28 T.T [12:57] <@marvelbabe> kinda funny [12:58] <@marvelbabe> quite a few of the "older" players like you, me, VE, Palmar play kinda crazy [12:59] <@Pasta> most play crazy to some extent [12:59] <@Pasta> I'm not aware of the average age [13:00] <@marvelbabe> me neither [13:00] <@marvelbabe> but quite a few teenagers i think [13:00] <@Pasta> I think axle is an interesting guy [13:00] <@Pasta> the guy always writes short sketches [13:00] <@marvelbabe> axle is amazing [13:01] <@marvelbabe> his writing gives me tingles lol [13:01] <@Pasta> yeah :D [13:01] <@marvelbabe> read one of his epically long posts [13:01] <@marvelbabe> and hope there's another to follow [13:01] <@marvelbabe> i could read them all day lol [13:01] <@marvelbabe> and he's actually becoming quite decent at mafia [13:02] <@Pasta> I thought he was some insane drunkard [13:02] <@Pasta> first time I saw him [13:02] <@Pasta> when he was scum [13:02] <@Pasta> lots of mistakes [13:02] <@Pasta> now he's becoming some sort of pro writer [13:02] <@Pasta> and also plays well [13:02] <@marvelbabe> ye [13:02] <@marvelbabe> did you see his first newbie game as town? [13:02] <@Pasta> nah [13:02] <@marvelbabe> best thing ever [13:03] <@marvelbabe> he made extensive cases on the hosts [13:03] <@Pasta> hhaha [13:03] <@marvelbabe> not even joking [13:03] <@Pasta> need to check that out [13:03] <@marvelbabe> he decided everyone was town [13:03] <@marvelbabe> so the hosts must be the mafia [13:04] <@marvelbabe> trying to remember what batch of newbie numbers he was around [13:04] <@marvelbabe> sometime around 30 maybe [13:17] <@Pasta> Tell me if you think this is scum-scum please [13:17] <@Pasta> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=414884¤tpage=18#341 [13:20] <@marvelbabe> hmm [13:20] <@marvelbabe> first paragraph seems more like scum-town, second more like scum-scum [13:28] <@Pasta> should have catched yamato right there [13:28] <@Pasta> has MZ as scum [13:28] <@Pasta> asks FT to read Oats [13:28] <@Pasta> completely random [13:29] <@marvelbabe> easy in hindsight my dear [13:29] <@marvelbabe> at the time you can always rationalise it away [13:29] <@marvelbabe> pretty sure you could find plenty of townies doing equally weird things [13:29] <@Pasta> yeah, it's pure hindisght [13:30] <@Pasta> but tells us what we have to look for [13:30] <@Pasta> in parrt [13:30] <@Pasta> people who don't seem to value their own scumreads [13:30] <@Pasta> koshi's stuff with VE is basically analogous [13:32] <@marvelbabe> that's not correct logic [13:32] <@marvelbabe> because one scum person did something doesn't mean it's a scumteam-s mantra [13:33] <@Pasta> this is getting somewhat into our heuristics [13:33] <@Pasta> but scum make their shit up [13:33] <@Pasta> they lack conviction behind it [13:33] <@Pasta> and might make the mistake to forget their later play to their previous reads [13:33] <@Pasta> to forgoet to adapt* [13:34] <@Pasta> if you pushed VE but decided not to vote him for some reason [13:34] <@Pasta> and later I ask you [13:34] <@Pasta> "Can you think of guys posting arguments against VE but not voting for him"? [13:34] <@Pasta> and you reply "Nah idk" [13:35] <@Pasta> It means you don't rememeber your previous attitude [13:35] <@Pasta> scum doesn't have real attitudes [13:35] <@marvelbabe> or it means he didn't view himself that way [13:36] <@Pasta> I also don't understand [13:37] <@Pasta> he posted arguments for VE being scum [13:37] <@Pasta> usually, when it turns out you're wrong, that leaves you some justification for the guy being lynched [13:37] <@Pasta> or better [13:38] <@Pasta> even if VE was mislynched, he should have been at least a little of the opinion that the guys lynching him had some point [13:38] <@marvelbabe> :/ [13:38] <@marvelbabe> i'm not getting any of this [13:38] <@marvelbabe> i think he's fine [13:38] <@Pasta> well he posted arguments for VE being scum [13:38] <@Pasta> but doesn't see where the guys lynching him come from [13:39] <@Pasta> and agrees that it was a scum bandwagon [13:39] <@marvelbabe> if he's scum then he's magically taken the 100% opposite attitude to the other game where he's scum [13:39] <@marvelbabe> so he's not very interesting to me right now [13:39] <@Pasta> not reading that game [13:39] <@Pasta> might do [13:39] <@Pasta> Other thing: [13:40] <@Pasta> He thinks FT is scum [13:40] <@Pasta> So I ask him about SlOosh [13:40] <@Pasta> cause he agrees that scum was on VE [13:40] <@Pasta> but FT was on SlOosh! [13:40] <@marvelbabe> so???? [13:40] <@Pasta> He doesn't use that to get a read on sloosh [13:41] <@Pasta> like [13:41] <@Pasta> "It's unlikely scum would end on scum when they could lynch the vig" [13:42] <@marvelbabe> ok [13:42] <@Pasta> I miss the thinking process I would expect from a townie with those reads [13:42] <@marvelbabe> i think you miss YOUR thinking process [13:43] <@Pasta> i might not explain it well [13:43] <@marvelbabe> you explain it fine [13:43] <@marvelbabe> i just don't attach what you attach to it [13:43] <@marvelbabe> i'm sitting here going "meh... maaaaaybe... but eh" [13:57] <@Pasta> marv [13:58] <@Pasta> tell DrH to not get modkilled with all his posting please [13:58] <@marvelbabe> viv [13:58] <@marvelbabe> haha [13:58] <@marvelbabe> ok [13:58] <@Pasta> btw [13:58] <@Pasta> I see you're in another channel [13:58] <@Pasta> im not entering it [13:58] <@Pasta> but they can enter here [13:58] <@marvelbabe> yeah i know [13:58] <@marvelbabe> i'm less paranoid than you though [14:00] <@Pasta> btw, Oats stopped derping [14:00] <@Pasta> he became a ghost [14:00] <@Pasta> not good [14:00] <@marvelbabe> agreed [14:00] <@marvelbabe> this should be his online time [14:54] <@Pasta> Dunno why gumshoe claims he saved somebody [14:54] <@Pasta> how is he supposed to know [14:54] <@marvelbabe> mm [14:55] <@marvelbabe> dunno why he's typing anytihng about it at all [14:55] <@Pasta> well it's against the rules [14:55] <@Pasta> but it makes no difference [14:55] <@Pasta> I don't think he gets a notification if he was 1st target or just bg [14:56] <@marvelbabe> was speculating that it would be awesome if he protected someone and mafia shot gumshoe + that person [14:56] <@Pasta> well that sounds smart [14:56] <@Pasta> bodyguard role sucks tbh [14:56] <@marvelbabe> good for weak townies [14:56] <@Pasta> well I'll miss gumshoe [14:56] <@Pasta> you masoned him though [14:57] <@Pasta> iirc [14:57] <@marvelbabe> ye [14:57] <@marvelbabe> aye [14:57] <@Pasta> might wanna post [14:57] <@marvelbabe> that would take effort [14:57] <@marvelbabe> like an arse [14:57] <@marvelbabe> gumshoe would reply BELOW the quote string [14:58] <@marvelbabe> so the replies go like top-bottom-top-bottom rather than in order [15:00] <@marvelbabe> he liked s&b for mafia [15:00] <@marvelbabe> i tried to convince him on FT, i think i managed it [15:00] <@marvelbabe> he liked kholly best like me [15:01] <@Pasta> gotta look what he wanted before that nk [15:02] <@Pasta> didn't do that yet [15:02] <@Pasta> can't I get you warm for an S & B lynch [15:02] <@Pasta> we don't have triple lynch obviously [15:02] <@Pasta> I wish we had [15:02] <@Pasta> need to organize the order [15:03] <@marvelbabe> i might be ok with s&b in later days [15:03] <@marvelbabe> can't think of good reasons he's town at any rate [15:04] <@marvelbabe> given he attacked ace quite heavily recently [15:04] <@marvelbabe> i wonder how he'll respond to the redcheck [15:06] <@marvelbabe> game is too sloooooow [15:38] <@Pasta> I'm curious how FT reacts to the checlk [15:38] <@Pasta> maybe he'll only dare coming out if there's someone lending him a hand [15:38] <@Pasta> mostly a townie [15:38] <@Pasta> I'm playing with the thought of joining the wagon now [15:38] <@Pasta> in spite of all doubts [15:39] <@Pasta> but I also want to put him into a situation where he can show his alignment [15:39] <@Pasta> more clearly [15:39] <@marvelbabe> yeah [15:39] <@marvelbabe> i like wait-and-see [15:57] <@marvelbabe> huh [15:57] <@marvelbabe> that post from s&b [15:59] <@marvelbabe> hmm [15:59] <@marvelbabe> it does have precedent [16:03] <@Pasta> what [16:05] <@marvelbabe> i thought when i was reading it that he was suddenly jumping on tofu [16:05] <@marvelbabe> but his previous posts show him trending that way [16:05] <@marvelbabe> interesting that he intermingles it with doubt of ace's claim [16:06] <@marvelbabe> i wonder what that menas [16:06] <@marvelbabe> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=414884¤tpage=28#545 [16:06] <@marvelbabe> any thoughts about that post? [16:08] <@marvelbabe> just reading the Oats-VE PMs as well [16:09] <@marvelbabe> "Original Message From VisceraEyes: So you wasted one of your PM choices just to tell me that I'm totes scum? Well not only are you wrong, but you're an idiot for doing that. So idiotic in fact that you couldn't possibly be scum, so I guess there's that." [16:10] <@marvelbabe> I'd quite like to know exactly why Oats masoned VE [16:16] <@Pasta> He said earlier also [16:16] <@Pasta> VE and yamato can't both be scum [16:16] <@Pasta> This feels a lot like scumOats [16:17] <@Pasta> He even bit at the post I made look terrible during the night [16:17] <@Pasta> and then he's absent [16:17] <@Pasta> I'm curious to see if I can lure him out with minimal pressure [16:31] <Pizza> lost connection [16:31] <Pizza> but saved the logs this time [16:31] <Pizza> did you reply anything [16:32] <@marvelbabe> noes [16:51] <@marvelbabe> er [16:51] <Pizza> pretty much ignored him so far [16:51] <@marvelbabe> i think he's town tbh [16:51] <@marvelbabe> don't think he'd call me mafia as mafia [16:51] <Pizza> and the HOW he got to that? [16:51] <@marvelbabe> er [16:52] <@marvelbabe> no idea [16:52] <Pizza> lol [16:52] <@marvelbabe> where can i host text stuff? [16:52] <Pizza> text stuff? [16:52] <@marvelbabe> yeah [16:52] <Pizza> host? [16:52] <Pizza> or post [16:52] <@marvelbabe> how do i show you logs [16:52] <Pizza> oh [16:52] <Pizza> there are online notepads [16:52] <Pizza> or send me per pm [16:53] <@marvelbabe> how terribly non-specific [16:53] <Pizza> ok ok [16:53] <@marvelbabe> ooh [16:53] <@marvelbabe> obviously [16:53] <@marvelbabe> i'm being stupid [16:53] <@marvelbabe> PM [16:56] <@Pizza> well just his first pm [16:56] <@Pizza> looks pretty townie [16:56] <@Pizza> where he tells you u sat on your ass [16:56] <@marvelbabe> yeah i think he's town [16:56] <@marvelbabe> just cba to put up with this shit [16:56] <@marvelbabe> *his, not this [16:57] <@Pizza> lol geript doin votecounts now [16:57] <@marvelbabe> yes [16:57] <@marvelbabe> i was wondering wtf was going on there [17:00] <@marvelbabe> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=414884¤tpage=35#685 [17:00] <@marvelbabe> i have no idea what's going on anymore [17:00] <@marvelbabe> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=421551¤tpage=3#60 [17:03] <@Pizza> I have no idea why you trusted ace's claim in the first place [17:03] <@Pizza> but I guess it makes sense when you're so sure FT is scum [17:03] <@Pizza> So many people to lynch [17:03] <@Pizza> I'd put ace on top today [17:03] <@Pizza> with the others i mean [17:05] <@marvelbabe> i don't think ace is mafia [17:05] <@marvelbabe> i think he's a cock [17:08] <@Pizza> sigh [17:08] <@Pizza> i want my mason back [17:08] <@marvelbabe> so [17:08] <@Pizza> where the fuck is wiggles [17:09] <@marvelbabe> lol [17:09] <@marvelbabe> ye [17:09] <@marvelbabe> we just kill kholly now? [17:09] <@Pizza> likely [17:09] <@Pizza> would be my choice [17:09] <@Pizza> this ft story is interesting [17:09] <@Pizza> S & B's vote [17:09] <@Pizza> waiting for him to reply [17:09] <@Pizza> to my questions [17:10] <@Pizza> im flexible [17:10] <@marvelbabe> Ace should be shot for introducing complications into a game with a 20 post limit [17:10] <@Pizza> ace should be shot period [17:10] <@Pizza> for dicking [17:10] <@Pizza> but we're out of vigis i suppose [17:11] <@Pizza> maybe there's SK though [17:11] <@mFarvelbabe> i wish i were a 4-shot dayvigi [17:12] <@marvelbabe> maybe [17:12] <@marvelbabe> i did muse that hiro could have been an SK shot [17:12] <@marvelbabe> but then i thought SK doesn't fit with the traitor theme so much and 6 mafia + traitor + SK sounds super harsh O.o [17:13] <@Pizza> bluesnipe maybe [17:13] <@Pizza> he was quite quiet [17:14] <@Pizza> well not that it helps [17:14] <@marvelbabe> naw [17:14] <@marvelbabe> can't believe it was a bluesnipe [17:16] <@Pizza> well, it was a goof [17:16] <@Pizza> yay [17:17] <@Pizza> Man [17:17] <@Pizza> S & B is SO scummy [17:17] <@Pizza> it's his whole way of "scumhunting" that rubs me the wrong way [17:18] <@Pizza> I don't see a real drive behind his posts [17:19] <@marvelbabe> lemme find what i said to gumshoe [17:19] <@marvelbabe> "I meant the opposite with the too clean thing. I meant too clean for a townie, potentially. I read his posts and they're fine and all but that's just it, they're ok. Nothing stirs me one way or another and that's always a worrying sign because townies are usually more annoying/opinionated/whatever." [17:21] <@Pizza> precisely [17:21] <@Pizza> he's not opinionated [17:21] <@Pizza> he tries to look like he cares [17:21] <@Pizza> does what he has to do [17:22] <@Pizza> but with no passion [17:22] <@marvelbabe> it's robotic [17:22] <@marvelbabe> i know what you mean [17:22] <@Pizza> like people who marry [17:22] <@Pizza> that's how scum plays [17:22] <@marvelbabe> LOL [17:22] <@marvelbabe> that's amazing [17:30] <@Pizza> Didn't realize FT already replied [17:30] <@Pizza> reading thread helps sometimes [17:31] <@Pizza> I don't actually like that response [17:31] <@Pizza> cause FT drops everything else [17:31] <@marvelbabe> yeah [17:31] <@marvelbabe> i went back and checked earlier [17:32] <@Pizza> If he knew he was innocent [17:32] <@marvelbabe> didn't know how i felt about it [17:32] <@Pizza> could have simply stayed in thread [17:32] <@Pizza> keep scumhunting [17:32] <@marvelbabe> then he would be kicking and screaming about it right [17:32] <@Pizza> instead he drops and runs [17:32] <@Pizza> well that's enough I think [17:32] <@marvelbabe> yeah [17:32] <@Pizza> gonna vote him [17:33] <@Pizza> he announced tho [17:33] <@Pizza> I will make it a point to not waste time defending myself because ultimately, it is just my word against Ace's. If town votes me, I'm not sure what I can do to stop it. I'm going to post all my updated reads(town included this time) and y'all can make the best use of it. [17:33] <@Pizza> we're waiting on that [17:33] <@Pizza> basically [17:33] <@marvelbabe> you prefer FT to kholly? [17:33] <@Pizza> depends on the follow-up [17:34] <@Pizza> FT gives us more information tho [17:34] <@Pizza> probably wiser [17:34] <@Pizza> but ace just said he fakeclaimed lol [17:34] <@Pizza> man this game [17:35] <@marvelbabe> so [17:35] <@marvelbabe> oats has been talking to rayn in mason today [17:35] <@marvelbabe> but not in thread [17:41] <@marvelbabe> ok [17:41] <@Pizza> yeah don't worry [17:41] <@Pizza> got it [17:56] <@Pizza> oh right there's also Vayne [17:56] <@marvelbabe> yeah [17:56] <@marvelbabe> i had him as town quite early [17:56] <@Pizza> ok [17:56] <@marvelbabe> can't remember why [17:56] <@Pizza> had a similar feeling [17:56] <@Pizza> but similarly to oats [17:56] <@Pizza> he's so inactive [17:56] <@marvelbabe> i remember having a reaction to kholly's post [17:56] <@marvelbabe> thinking all these dudes look town [17:57] <@marvelbabe> and vayne was one of them [17:57] <@Pizza> should probably not judge by activity though [17:57] <@Pizza> in a mason game [17:57] <@Pizza> i wonder if FT is masoned [17:57] <@Pizza> did he claim anything yet? [17:58] <@marvelbabe> not that i remember [17:58] <@marvelbabe> fairly sure he hasn't [17:59] <@Pizza> scumpoints [18:00] <@Pizza> if he didnt mason anyone [18:00] <@marvelbabe> it would be almost unbelievable if he didn't [18:03] <@marvelbabe> viv [18:03] <@Pizza> yeah [18:04] <@marvelbabe> oki [18:05] <@marvelbabe> you think we should get FT to tell us who he's masoned with at some point? [18:05] <@marvelbabe> some logs might be nice. [18:09] <@Pizza> I don't like at all how S & B disappeared [18:09] <@marvelbabe> the perils of working for CERN [18:09] <@Pizza> wtf [18:09] <@marvelbabe> what? [18:10] <@Pizza> is he a physics dude [18:10] <@Pizza> also called physics [18:10] <@marvelbabe> yeah something like that [18:10] <@Pizza> one more reason to lynch him [18:10] <@marvelbabe> like he lives in america i think [18:10] <@marvelbabe> but he goes over to switzerland to work sometimes [18:11] <@Pizza> anyway [18:11] <@Pizza> I kinda skimmed over tofu again [18:11] <@Pizza> I think he puts himself too much out there [18:11] <@Pizza> for being scum [18:12] <@marvelbabe> meh [18:16] <Pizza_> connection problem again [18:16] <Pizza_> anyway [18:16] <Pizza_> that guy posts too much [18:16] <Pizza_> and it looks genuine [18:17] <Pizza_> he does lots of mistakes [18:17] <Pizza_> not robotic atg all [18:18] <Pizza_> We talked about his exaggerations [18:18] <Pizza_> his inconsistencies [18:18] <Pizza_> but as you said [18:18] <@Pizza_> there are people who seem to do everything right [18:19] <@Pizza_> who don't stand out [18:19] <@marvelbabe> i still think he's scum [16:09] <Viv> hi [16:09] <Viv> sent u a pm [16:09] <Viv> wiggles also gives me a feeling of meh [16:10] <Viv> but he wants to lyanch layabout [16:10] <Viv> could be a concertated bus [16:10] <Viv> but he's secondary for now [16:10] <Viv> lynching into layabout, kholly, S & B has priority imo [16:10] <Viv> since there's this connection component on sloosh I'd not lynch him first [16:10] <Viv> but layabout clearly did lots of sucmmy stuff [16:12] <@marvellosity> oh [16:12] <@marvellosity> sorry i just PMed you [16:12] <@marvellosity> yes i agree [16:13] <@marvellosity> if wiggles wants to lynch layabout that's good [16:13] <@marvellosity> i'd rather he did some concerted stuff in thread tho [16:14] <@marvellosity> kinda curious what DrH has to say now [16:14] <@marvellosity> after Ace said his check was fake I told him I preferred kholly to FT and he didn't respond yet [16:17] <Viv> kudos if he's scum [16:17] <Viv> don't think so though [16:17] <@marvellosity> me neither [16:19] <@marvellosity> so far we've lost our vigi, day-vigi and jailkeeper through collective idiocy [16:19] <@marvellosity> quite unamusing [16:19] <Viv> this day [16:20] <Viv> I cried out when I saw the jk posting his role pm [16:20] <@marvellosity> ya [16:20] <Viv> he might actually have had an influence on what happened tonight [16:20] <@marvellosity> lynch is tonight right [16:20] <Viv> yeah [16:20] <Viv> I wonder what kholly will say to the dt stuff [16:21] <Viv> i suppose he'll claim someone claimed DT to him in the pm [16:21] <Viv> but he can't reveal him [16:21] <Viv> seems like some stunt a scum chez would pull off [16:21] <@marvellosity> probably [16:21] <@marvellosity> all his posts are vom-worthy [16:21] <Viv> he likes such strats [16:21] <Viv> we wanted to fake an obs qt in LX [16:21] <@marvellosity> lol [16:21] <Viv> and simulate [16:21] <Viv> an irc infiltration [16:22] <@marvellosity> haha [16:22] <Viv> we had very different opinions on how to do it [16:22] <Viv> so we ended up not doing it [16:22] <@marvellosity> his PMs to gumshoe this game reminded me so much of LIX [16:22] <Viv> ^^# [16:23] <Viv> well, it's chez [16:23] <@marvellosity> i'm going to a play + drinking this evening [16:23] <Viv> at the end of the day [16:23] <Viv> lynch him, see what happens [16:23] <Viv> wtf is play + drinking [16:23] <@marvellosity> so you need to make sure people don't vote outside chez-layabout [16:23] <Viv> ok [16:23] <@marvellosity> er [16:23] <@marvellosity> a theatre production [16:23] <@marvellosity> then out for drinks after [16:23] <Viv> you go play? [16:23] <Viv> or watch [16:24] <@marvellosity> a show at the theatre is called a play [16:24] <Viv> ah ok [16:24] <@marvellosity> like [16:24] <@marvellosity> i think rayn's MZ vote is awful [16:24] <Viv> yeah [16:25] <@marvellosity> there's no particular reason to think MZ is mafia that i can tell [16:25] <Viv> but don't think he scum [16:25] <Viv> he'll need some persuasion [16:25] <@marvellosity> yeah [16:25] <Viv> what yamato said about MZ [16:25] <Viv> and see what he says [16:25] <@marvellosity> well [16:25] <Viv> oh it's through him [16:26] <@marvellosity> ye [16:26] <Viv> kush defended Tofu kinda [20:40] <marvellosity> brb 3 mins [20:40] <marvellosity> just going for smoke [20:40] <@viv> In chat yesterday you said you'd lynch layabout instantly if you could. Why do you pick SlOosh now that I actually found a piece of evidence about layabout that's one of the most damning pieces in my cases? [20:40] <@viv> sent this to wiggles [20:40] <@viv> before you wrote me [20:40] <@viv> i have dinner soon [20:40] <@viv> with the "family" [20:40] <@viv> :d [20:42] <@viv> Wiggles wrote this [20:42] <@viv> I feel like the case on Sloosh is strong as well. I also don't think MZ is a good lynch, and it feels like there's more support from the people I think are town for a sloosh lynch compared to a layabout lynch. I'd be alright lynching either, but I feel Sloosh is now the better choice for today's lynch. It will also give us more information based on what happened Day 1. [20:43] <@viv> btw im dumb [20:43] <@viv> JP was sharrant [20:43] <@viv> not wiggles [20:43] <marvellosity> yo [20:43] <marvellosity> yeah that's why i asked [20:44] <marvellosity> it seemed off to me but i couldn't say so in the thread without outing us [20:44] <marvellosity> because i know from your point of view sloosh isn't the #1 lynch i don't think (behind layabout or kholly) and yet after all that mason talk he's come out swinging for sloosh [20:44] <marvellosity> has he mentioned kholly at all??? [20:44] <@viv> well, check the logs i posted [20:44] <@viv> the second ones are with wig [20:44] <@viv> or the 1st [20:45] <@viv> the not-koshui [20:45] <@viv> he asks me about kholly i think [20:45] <@viv> at some point [20:46] <marvellosity> ok [20:47] <marvellosity> the thing that gets me right [20:47] <marvellosity> is that Wiggles is properly old-school [20:47] <marvellosity> so he should have a REALLY FIRM OPINION on chez. [20:47] <marvellosity> you see what i'm saying? [20:48] <@viv> yeah [20:48] <@viv> check this [20:48] <@viv> [20:45] <@Viv> heya [20:45] <Wigglwa> hey [20:46] <@Viv> so, what's up [20:46] <@Viv> what's your current view on the game [20:46] <Wigglwa> it got pretty silly pretty fast [20:46] <@Viv> lol yeah [20:46] <Wigglwa> too many people trying to troll [20:46] <@Viv> that modkill was so sad [20:46] <Wigglwa> yeah [20:46] <@Viv> hurts to turn out right like that [20:47] <Wigglwa> then we lost another town slot [20:47] <Wigglwa> and i feel vayne is town [20:47] <@Viv> me to [20:48] <@viv> wait [20:48] <@viv> sending pm [20:48] <@viv> here it's a pain [20:49] <marvellosity> haha ok [20:49] <@viv> meh [20:49] <@viv> he just seemed to knowvayne would be replaced [20:49] <@viv> that kinda hit me [20:49] <@viv> but it's probably overreacting [20:50] <marvellosity> i'm much more interested in his chez point of view to be honest. [20:50] <marvellosity> nothing to read into the replacement [20:50] <marvellosity> vayne was banned from TL [20:50] <marvellosity> so [20:50] <marvellosity> assuming he would be replaced was fair [20:50] <@viv> i saw how he was banned [20:50] <@viv> kinda harsh [20:50] <@viv> must be a repeated offense [20:51] <@viv> usually you get a warning for that first [20:52] <marvellosity> he's a repeated prick elsewhere on the forums [20:52] <@viv> that explains it then [20:52] <marvellosity> he spent about 20 posts bashing all the blue strategyt posters in the SC2 protoss help thread a few weeks ago [20:52] <marvellosity> got a ban for that [20:53] <@viv> I'm pulling chez information from wiggles atm [20:53] <@viv> he seems kinda hesitant [20:54] <@viv> doesn't seem keen at all [20:54] <@viv> to lynch chez [20:54] <marvellosity> how can he be hesitant [20:54] <@viv> but claims he would [20:54] <@viv> sent you a pm [20:54] <marvellosity> he's played with him 100 times [20:54] <marvellosity> find out why he doesn't want to lynch him [20:54] <marvellosity> ah [20:54] <marvellosity> try to find out why he's umming and ahhing [20:55] <marvellosity> ugh [20:55] <marvellosity> do you remember LIX? [20:55] <marvellosity> when bugs was really sure about Chez? [20:56] <@viv> yeah [20:56] <marvellosity> by comparison wiggles being so weak here [20:56] <marvellosity> hard to tell if it;s because he's being bad or scum or somehow just doesn't know [20:56] <marvellosity> i dunno [20:57] <@viv> brb dinner [20:58] <@viv> new pm inc [20:59] <marvellosity> ok [20:59] <marvellosity> i have dinner then also will be going out and shit [20:59] <marvellosity> i'm hoping to get online later, but that's dependent on how drunk i'll be later [21:00] <@viv> arv [21:00] <@viv> what tells me [21:00] <@viv> you simply don't want to lynch sloosh [21:00] <@viv> like [21:00] <@viv> would be nice to have your opinion on that too [21:00] <@viv> you're pulling my strings right now [21:01] <@viv> feelsbadman [21:02] <marvellosity> ? [21:02] <@viv> like [21:02] <marvellosity> i think layabout and kholly especially are much better lynches [21:02] <marvellosity> sry if i don't want to lynch everyone at once [21:02] <marvellosity> you said yourself sloosh had connections to him [21:02] <marvellosity> anyway i literally have to go [21:03] <@viv> ah well [21:03] <@viv> guess I'll try to push a chez lynch [21:03] <@viv> with that fakeclaim it's probably a safe scum hit [21:03] <@viv> HF [21:03] <marvellosity> if you're gonna start going paranoid on me btw [21:03] <marvellosity> let me know [21:03] <@viv> well, you'll notice [21:03] <@viv> lol [21:04] <marvellosity> i can't help wanting to lynch some people more than others [21:04] <marvellosity> that's just how the game work [21:04] <marvellosity> s [21:04] <marvellosity> and if you somehow believe we've had these massive conversations and i'm mafia then you're craycray [21:04] <marvellosity> toodles x [13:45] <viv_> Hey [13:45] <viv_> that pardon [13:45] <viv_> kinda makes sloosh confirmed scum [13:46] <viv_> u here [13:46] <marvellosity_> pretty much [13:46] <viv_> good [13:46] <viv_> and that also makes s & B [13:46] <viv_> pretty much surely scum [13:46] <viv_> still no logs from the two [13:47] == viv [webchat@109.114.124.224] has quit [Ping timeout] [13:47] <marvellosity_> yeh, [13:47] <viv_> btw how was your night [13:47] <viv_> do you remember anything [13:47] <marvellosity_> the show was unexpectedly hilarious [13:47] <marvellosity_> so that was good [13:47] <marvellosity_> and managed to avoid drinking too much for once [13:48] <viv_> nice [13:48] <viv_> wiggles rubs me really the wrong way now [13:48] <marvellosity_> not entirely sure if i came back and did any mafia [13:48] <marvellosity_> well [13:48] <marvellosity_> Wiggles keeps not being connected with the game [13:48] <viv_> he also tends to simply disappear from the chat, although still being in it [13:49] <viv_> at some point i end up talking with myself [13:49] <marvellosity_> lol [13:49] <marvellosity_> i'm rtying to remember what he was like when i was in a mafia team with him [13:49] <viv_> i write like 80 % of the stuff [13:49] <viv_> and he never writes stuff on his own [13:49] <viv_> he doesn't want to know shit from me [13:49] <marvellosity_> mm [13:50] <marvellosity_> the thing is right [13:50] <marvellosity_> everyone can't be scum [13:50] <marvellosity_> lol [13:50] <viv_> well [13:50] <marvellosity_> let's see [13:51] <marvellosity_> yamato/sloosh/s&b/kholly/layabout/wiggles? [13:51] <marvellosity_> adam/malongo/MZ maybe in outside spots [13:51] <marvellosity_> rofl [13:52] <marvellosity_> did you see Koshi's good cop/bad cop comment [13:52] <marvellosity_> that made me laugh [13:52] <viv_> lol [13:52] <viv_> I'm actually not that sure about kholly anymore [13:53] <viv_> would lynch him last+ [13:53] <viv_> talked with koshi about him [13:53] <marvellosity_> i've seen nothing as to why he would be town [13:53] <marvellosity_> nothing at all [13:53] <viv_> well [13:53] <viv_> His vote was shit [13:53] <viv_> the switch [13:53] <viv_> and he trolls like chez does [13:53] <viv_> but [13:54] <viv_> not that much else to say actuall [13:54] <marvellosity_> ... [13:54] <marvellosity_> right [13:54] <viv_> He's low priority compared to the others imo [13:54] <viv_> layabout s & B and sloosh [13:54] <viv_> first [13:55] <viv_> gonna see what kholly brings to the table [13:55] <viv_> in the meantime [13:55] <marvellosity_> so many people to kill [13:55] <marvellosity_> sigh [13:55] <viv_> pardoning time is over now [13:55] <marvellosity_> why didn't town just sheep me and lynch him day 1 [13:55] <marvellosity_> would have made life so much easier. [13:56] <viv_> I had to vote SlOosh d1 [13:56] <viv_> I KILLED VE MARV [13:56] <viv_> I HAVE HIS BLOOD ON MY HANDS [13:56] <marvellosity_> T.T [13:56] <marvellosity_> so do I tbf [13:56] <marvellosity_> i really thought when i went to bed that town wouldn't be so dumb to lynch him [13:56] <marvellosity_> always a mistake to underestimate a town's stupidity though. [13:58] <viv_> will probably make a case on wig tonight [13:58] <viv_> and post the logs [13:58] <marvellosity_> in case you die? [13:58] <viv_> yeah [13:58] <viv_> not posting our logs yet though [13:58] <marvellosity_> fair [13:58] <viv_> i'll leave that to you [13:59] <marvellosity_> er [13:59] <marvellosity_> you should send me the logs you didn't send me before night-end [13:59] <marvellosity_> i've not been saving them ;; [13:59] <viv_> yeah [13:59] <marvellosity_> basically been trusting you on that one [14:01] <viv_> you'll get them with pm [14:01] <viv_> what do you think of wiggles [14:01] <viv_> is it plausible he's scum? [14:02] <marvellosity_> yes [14:03] <marvellosity_> i don't find him townie [14:03] <viv_> im glad i masoned him [14:03] <marvellosity_> kush/rayn/vivax/vayne/korynne/koshi/oats/marv/DrH [14:03] <marvellosity_> are people i think are town [14:04] <viv_> idk about oats [14:04] <viv_> where the hell is he [14:04] <marvellosity_> yeah [14:04] <marvellosity_> i almost put a question mark after him [14:04] <marvellosity_> but meh [14:08] <viv_> soo [14:08] <viv_> can I has some logs [14:08] <viv_> before I die [14:08] <marvellosity_> er [14:08] <marvellosity_> yes probably [14:09] <marvellosity_> i'll put together what i have later [14:09] <viv_> where do you save the stuff [14:10] <viv_> rly [14:10] <marvellosity_> i've not saved anything that's not in PMs [14:10] <viv_> o_O [14:10] <viv_> O_o [14:10] <marvellosity_> lol [14:11] <viv_> that's not how MI6 would play marv [14:11] <viv_> you are a shame to the crown [14:11] <viv_> where's the british intel skill [14:12] <marvellosity_> eh [14:12] <marvellosity_> i rely on my memory [14:14] <viv_> well I would be grateful if you did the stuff [14:14] <viv_> I'll go study a little in the meantime [14:14] <viv_> laters! [14:14] <viv_> (I'll stay connected btw) [14:15] <marvellosity_> okies [14:15] <marvellosity_> Off to bed now, spent ages to do shit tonight. Remember kids, SlOosh, S & B, layabout, then you can start caring about everything else. Good work confirmed townie! Marv needs to die. He should be better than this. lolololololol see what I did thar? I used his logic against him. also "[12:37] <Viv> basically, all of the VE bandwagon looks massively fishy to me, only guy I could see as being town of that bunch is yam" really? | ||
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[11:53] <@marvelbabe> yea... [11:53] <@Pasta> you didn't seriously believe that [11:53] <@marvelbabe> why not [11:53] <@Pasta> come on marv [11:54] <@marvelbabe> what? [11:54] <@marvelbabe> he said he had a redcheck [11:54] <@marvelbabe> i'm not going to assume he's lying [11:54] <@Pasta> And will laugh his ass off if we follow it [11:54] <@marvelbabe> i disagree. [11:55] <@Pasta> well I'm not trusting that claim [11:55] <@Pasta> do what you will [11:56] <@Pasta> we will have to agree on disagreeing [11:56] <@marvelbabe> i'm happy for a 1 for 1 [11:56] <@marvelbabe> with kholly as a further banker [11:57] <@marvelbabe> i play mafia much simpler than you vivax :p" "[12:39] <@marvelbabe> you're right, it IS a possibility that he's pulling a Roulette [12:40] <@marvelbabe> but if I can hit FT + Ace + Kholly in the next 3 lynches [12:40] <@marvelbabe> and hit 2 mafia [12:40] <@marvelbabe> that's just dandy" WHY YOU FAILING MARV WHY YOU FAILING!!??!?!? "[12:46] <@marvelbabe> Chez is really good fun in scumQT [12:46] <@marvelbabe> but useless in thread [12:46] <@marvelbabe> he basically just did last-minute votes [12:47] <@marvelbabe> talis just afk-ed [12:47] <@marvelbabe> managed to keep talis alive until day 4 and chez survived to endgame with me" Hey, I survived. WHY YOU HATIN THEN?? "[21:03] <marvellosity> if you're gonna start going paranoid on me btw [21:03] <marvellosity> let me know [21:03] <@viv> well, you'll notice [21:03] <@viv> lol" Yup I think it is obv now | ||
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May the medics save you Vivax! With logs that long, that means it is town-town or town-scum. or crazy-crazy. Thanks for the reveal Vivax, you are doing town a great service. the fact that it was with marv, make me trust you more Vivax. Cause marv is looking really bad this game. Just look at him. LOL I'M STILL USING YOUR LOGICALS MARV!!! | ||
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On July 22 2013 12:12 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: Day 3 Malongo the Town has died. Vivax the Town has died. Sorry out of the house right now. I am starting to see a pattern. Everyone I talk to or confirm as town dies... | ||
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On July 18 2013 12:01 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: Vote count incoming. VisceraEyes - 6 Oatsmaster slOosh yamato77 Ace strongandbig kholly VayneAuthority - 0 DoctorHelvetica - 1 Meapak_Ziphh Sloosh - 5 raynpelikoneet VayneAuthority HiroPro kushm4sta FirmTofu Kholly - 1 marvellosity Strongandbig - 1 Vivax raynpelikoneet - 0 Sandroba - 0 Malongo - 1 Koshi Oatsmaster - 0 Firmtofu - 1 DoctorHelvetica Meapak_ziphh - 5 Mr. Wiggles layabout Malongo gumshoe VisceraEyes Ace - 0 VisceraEyes has 6 votes and is to be lynched. This will be finalized and posted in 20 minutes. If anyone can verify my count it would be appreciated. On July 21 2013 14:20 geript wrote: DoctorHelvetica (0): layabout (1): slOosh kholly (1): Oatsmaster (0): Vivax (0): Meapak_Ziphh (1): slOosh (9): Mr Wiggles, Kushm4sta, layabout, raynpelikoneet, Vivax, VayneAuthority, Korynne, Koshi, Adam4167 strongandbig (1): VayneAuthority (1): Malongo Not Voting (1) : Meapak_Ziphh I wasn't expecting that move from Dr.H. I was playing with colors below, I'm going to get some food real quick and then I will finish sorting through the colors. I know its a mess right now and the red color don't match or add up. + Show Spoiler + On July 18 2013 12:01 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: Vote count incoming. VisceraEyes - 6 Oatsmaster slOosh yamato77 Ace strongandbig kholly VayneAuthority - 0 DoctorHelvetica - 1 Meapak_Ziphh Sloosh - 5 raynpelikoneet VayneAuthority HiroPro kushm4sta FirmTofu Kholly - 1 marvellosity Strongandbig - 1 Vivax raynpelikoneet - 0 Sandroba - 0 Malongo - 1 Koshi Oatsmaster - 0 Firmtofu - 1 DoctorHelvetica Meapak_ziphh - 5 Mr. Wiggles layabout Malongo gumshoe VisceraEyes Ace - 0 VisceraEyes has 6 votes and is to be lynched. This will be finalized and posted in 20 minutes. If anyone can verify my count it would be appreciated. On July 21 2013 14:20 geript wrote: DoctorHelvetica (0): layabout (1): slOosh kholly (1): Oatsmaster (0): Vivax (0): Meapak_Ziphh (1): slOosh (9): Mr Wiggles, Kushm4sta, layabout, raynpelikoneet, Vivax, VayneAuthority, Korynne, Koshi, Adam4167 strongandbig (1): VayneAuthority (1): Malongo Not Voting (1) : Meapak_Ziphh | ||
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On July 22 2013 14:41 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I'm back. Give me time to catch up to things. If anyone still has a mason left and would like to PM me a little summary of how this thread has evolved since I was last bandwagoning Tofu that'd be a big help. Remember your plan? Here:+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://imageshack.us/a/img10/1715/k0iv.png) I don't care anymore... they are already dead. My town circle of all town are dead. I wanted to keep it a secret. I didn't want mafia to taint my thoughts... but now.. I'm alone. or am I? MUHAHAAA | ||
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On July 24 2013 07:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: OKAY. HERE IS THE SITUATION WE ARE DISCUSSING NOW: This includes a lot of people. I am protecting their identity and you need to tell me who is scum and why: There is a person X who is masoned with a Z. Z claims parity cop to X (this is not confirmed), and claims they have a "different" check on marv-meapak. X is masoned with Y. They tell Y this (not confirmed) and tell them to share that information with someone to tell that in thread. Y is masoned with me, tells me about this and asks if it's wise to say that in thread. Here is my response to them: After this i share that information i have about X, Y and Z with W. I give them all the names too. After this happens the Sloosh - marv chat (i think? - marv, when did you talk with Sloosh?). Now who is most likely to be scum? what if one is blue and the other is green. Why are people ignoring this fact. They even talk about a sk but no the possibility of a blue. But then again... VE was green yet possess a blue role... while ace was blue with a blue role.... The Silencer is not alone in contradictions.. The possibility of multiple cops seems likely due to the following constraints: mafia pros suppose mafia has pardoner, Silencer and dayvig mafia has KP of 2 (the sK is a lie, yes it is uncapitalized! Cause I'm a חבל - chebel [aka I used no encryption here. I no breaks rules even though I claim to be a chebel]). plurality lynching town roles pardoner (pretty useless, no info if used and allows mafia 2 more night kills) jailkeeper bodyguard (kind of uselesss, replace town with other town or replace scum with town.. yeah guarantee lost of town life) dayvig - one shot nightvig - one shot Therefore, Y is mafia! Cause you know, Dr. Evil. Wait, I don't make sense. I can't just jump to conclusions now. | ||
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I haven't been town in the long time.. A really long time. So, I need to get in the townie mood and practice skills I haven't used in a long time. Step 1: Establish my innocents. Hey guys, I am role claiming. I am town. Some of you may know me as Chezinu. Its ok, I will accept this. Therefore, I have started trolling and acting like Chezinu. Now, I need to make reads like Chezinu. Its time to play the game. Step 2: Win ok, guys. I will prayerfully consider who is mafia this game. I will form a list. A list which hopefully hold to the standards of old. GO GO TOWNIE CHEZ!!! | ||
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List coming soon. | ||
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On July 24 2013 11:21 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Marv would also be a great lynch. Or a great vigi shot. Or vigi shoot me to confirm marv as scum if you think I'm scum. wait, so are you saying Marv faked those PMs with yams or you think they roleplayed it? + Show Spoiler + On July 19 2013 18:23 marvellosity wrote: My conversations were even more brief, I thought he could well just be busy townie tbh. kholly's voting is indeed quite suspicious, but wouldn't that only make him confirmed mafia if Sloosh was mafia? His voting seems in line with keeping Sloosh alive more than anything. I'm looking really hard at Sloosh tomorrow. To be honest, I haven't dug too deep in the whole DrH - FT thing, but it looked like a couple townies tunneling to me. But he's so gung ho on it and you seem to agree, I guess I'll actually read into it better. Original Message From marvellosity: Vivax ended up looking better later in the thread. VE's lynch was a travesty and you should feel bad. kholly almost confirmed mafia, FT looks likely mafia at this stage too. Hide nested quote - Original Message From yamato77: I've come to completely ignore Vivax because of how badly I misread him. You don't think he's posting like that simply because of the post restrictions? Original Message From marvellosity: just got to that first vivax post. makes me want to kill him immediately. scum vivax loves long pointless posts of crap. Original Message From yamato77: If you are, I'm going to just resign myself as the unluckiest player of all time, lol. Original Message From marvellosity: now i wasted one of my masons on an obvtownie :p i promise i'm not supposed to kill you this time OH NOES!!! THE "I's" are Uncapitalized LIKE THE sK!!!! AND ITS THE ONE HE SAYS OBVTOWNIE!!! Original Message From yamato77: Hapa masoned me at the start of the game. It was a pregame agreement, heh. Original Message From marvellosity: I replaced Hapa. Are we masoned? If so, did you mason me? PS+ Show Spoiler + The list is coming - I keeps gets distract! | ||
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On July 24 2013 13:58 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: DoctorHelvetica the Townie has been modkilled. He ragequit in game and confirmed through PM. On July 17 2013 06:34 kholly wrote: VayneAuthority Medic on VayneAuthority this time. | ||
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On July 24 2013 15:34 Korynne wrote: holly can you make some sense? T___T You claim they're all red and now you're saying medic should protect Vayne?? Who are you talking to this game? | ||
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On July 18 2013 12:01 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: Vote count incoming. VisceraEyes - 6 Oatsmaster slOosh yamato77 Ace strongandbig kholly VayneAuthority - 0 DoctorHelvetica - 1 Meapak_Ziphh Sloosh - 5 raynpelikoneet VayneAuthority HiroPro kushm4sta FirmTofu Kholly - 1 marvellosity Strongandbig - 1 Vivax raynpelikoneet - 0 Sandroba - 0 Malongo - 1 Koshi Oatsmaster - 0 Firmtofu - 1 DoctorHelvetica Meapak_ziphh - 5 Mr. Wiggles layabout Malongo gumshoe VisceraEyes Ace - 0 VisceraEyes has 6 votes and is to be lynched. This will be finalized and posted in 20 minutes. If anyone can verify my count it would be appreciated. On July 21 2013 14:20 geript wrote: DoctorHelvetica (0): layabout (1): slOosh kholly (1): Oatsmaster (0): Vivax (0): Meapak_Ziphh (1): slOosh (9): Mr Wiggles, Kushm4sta, layabout, raynpelikoneet, Vivax, VayneAuthority, Korynne, Koshi, Adam4167 strongandbig (1): VayneAuthority (1): Malongo Not Voting (1) : Meapak_Ziphh On July 24 2013 08:58 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: Marvellosity - 2 kholly DoctorHelvetica SloOsh - 10 Korynne raynpelikoneet marvellosity Mr. Wiggles Koshi kushm4sta Oatsmaster Meapak_Ziphh VayneAuthority layabout raynpelikoneet - 0 No Vote - 3 strongandbig Adam4167 SloOsh I might be ending the day early at about 10pm EST (one hour early) if I don't notice a significant activity change. 4 mafias 4/13 2. Kushm4sta - oneliner 4. layabout - defend sloosh and voted VE 5. Mr Wiggles - with layabout 6. strongandbig - he didn't PM Ace before shooting him 7. raynpelikoneet - pardon me! 8. Meapak_Ziphh - sK are funny 11. VayneAuthority - y u dying? 12. kholly - This guy is town! 13. Korynne - Why did gummy have to die? 17. Adam4167 - quite...too quite... 18. Koshi - hi 19. Oatsmaster - Accuser of the innocent 21. Hapahauli/Marvellosity - what you doing? ![[image loading]](http://imageshack.us/scaled/landing/839/na4o.png) I decided against posting my list now cause its night. PM me for more info. I r read the thread! uh oh... am I r die now? | ||
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On July 24 2013 16:44 raynpelikoneet wrote: This is the truth! 2. Kushm4sta - mostly because of voting patterns 4. layabout (possibly) - hasn't done anything but fishy stuff 5. Mr Wiggles (no idea) - what are you doing? 6. strongandbig - obviously 7. raynpelikoneet - pardon me! 8. Meapak_Ziphh (slight possibility of him being scum/SK over marv but i doubt it) 11. VayneAuthority - voting patterns 12. kholly - inclined to think so 13. Korynne - is making sense 17. Adam4167 - agreed, silent...too silent lately... 18. Koshi - inclined to think so 19. Oatsmaster - hasn't done anything to help finding mafia, also completely absent in PM's lately 21. Marvellosity (or meapak) - what you doing? inclined to think he is SK/scum over Meapak because of responses to the parity cop thing. I have very similar reads... I r scared now. Silent night.... Mafia, I am town, I am strong, you can't kill this! nanny nanny boo booo!!! YOU CAN"T KILL ME!!! oh geez, what is this bulleye doing on my chest? | ||
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On July 24 2013 16:44 raynpelikoneet wrote: This is the truth! 2. Kushm4sta - mostly because of voting patterns 4. layabout (possibly) - hasn't done anything but fishy stuff 5. Mr Wiggles (no idea) - what are you doing? 6. strongandbig - obviously 7. raynpelikoneet - pardon me! 8. Meapak_Ziphh (slight possibility of him being scum/SK over marv but i doubt it) 11. VayneAuthority - voting patterns 12. kholly - inclined to think so 13. Korynne - is making sense 17. Adam4167 - agreed, silent...too silent lately... 18. Koshi - inclined to think so 19. Oatsmaster - hasn't done anything to help finding mafia, also completely absent in PM's lately 21. Marvellosity (or meapak) - what you doing? inclined to think he is SK/scum over Meapak because of responses to the parity cop thing. So, you think obv scum snb will fake these: On July 23 2013 04:46 strongandbig wrote: stopped replying when it became clear that he wasn't really trying to persuade people he's town anymroe and marv scum will fake these: On July 19 2013 18:23 marvellosity wrote: My conversations were even more brief, I thought he could well just be busy townie tbh. kholly's voting is indeed quite suspicious, but wouldn't that only make him confirmed mafia if Sloosh was mafia? His voting seems in line with keeping Sloosh alive more than anything. I'm looking really hard at Sloosh tomorrow. To be honest, I haven't dug too deep in the whole DrH - FT thing, but it looked like a couple townies tunneling to me. But he's so gung ho on it and you seem to agree, I guess I'll actually read into it better. Original Message From marvellosity: Vivax ended up looking better later in the thread. VE's lynch was a travesty and you should feel bad. kholly almost confirmed mafia, FT looks likely mafia at this stage too. Hide nested quote - Original Message From yamato77: I've come to completely ignore Vivax because of how badly I misread him. You don't think he's posting like that simply because of the post restrictions? Original Message From marvellosity: just got to that first vivax post. makes me want to kill him immediately. scum vivax loves long pointless posts of crap. Original Message From yamato77: If you are, I'm going to just resign myself as the unluckiest player of all time, lol. Original Message From marvellosity: now i wasted one of my masons on an obvtownie :p i promise i'm not supposed to kill you this time Original Message From yamato77: Hapa masoned me at the start of the game. It was a pregame agreement, heh. Original Message From marvellosity: I replaced Hapa. Are we masoned? If so, did you mason me? On July 24 2013 07:15 marvellosity wrote: slOosh masoned me. Apparently mafia have an SK check on me, but I'm not SK. Tried to get what information I could, but he was careful. Skype logs. I'm Andrew. [10:21:00 PM] Inwho: hello? [10:21:05 PM] Andrew McDougall: hey [10:21:20 PM] Andrew McDougall: soooo [10:21:25 PM] Andrew McDougall: you dead [10:21:39 PM] Inwho: um yea :/ [10:21:43 PM] Inwho: well [10:22:00 PM] Andrew McDougall: about that [10:22:28 PM] Inwho: so if you haven't figured it out [10:22:30 PM] Inwho: I'm scum [10:22:34 PM] Inwho: pretty obv [10:22:42 PM] Andrew McDougall: excellent [10:22:45 PM] Andrew McDougall: so why did you mason me [10:23:18 PM] Inwho: we know you are sk based on cop check [10:23:41 PM] Andrew McDougall: interesting [10:23:47 PM] Inwho: we are offering you a joint victory [10:23:59 PM] Andrew McDougall: :/ [10:24:02 PM] Andrew McDougall: how do I go about that? [10:24:21 PM] Andrew McDougall: I understand you'd want something from me, else you wouldn't be doing this lol [10:25:30 PM] Inwho: mhmm [10:25:50 PM] Inwho: we want to not stack kp [10:26:18 PM] Andrew McDougall: who do you want to hit? or who should i not be hitting [10:26:21 PM] Andrew McDougall: whatever you want to tell me [10:27:38 PM] Andrew McDougall: also you have a cop, wat? [10:28:54 PM] Inwho: hold on talking in scumQT [10:45:06 PM] Andrew McDougall: this is so unexciting. [10:45:17 PM] Inwho: yea my bad :/ [10:47:28 PM] Inwho: is it evening over there? [10:47:46 PM] Andrew McDougall: it is [10:47:48 PM] Andrew McDougall: 22:47 [10:48:06 PM] Inwho: ah pretty late [10:48:15 PM] Inwho: ok so we have done the talkings [10:48:22 PM] Inwho: and we want you to shoot the koshi [10:49:20 PM] Andrew McDougall: what will happen in upcoming days? [10:50:11 PM] Inwho: There's a really complicated situation we need to sort out first [10:50:31 PM] Inwho: i.e. we aren't sure right now [10:50:49 PM] Andrew McDougall: i think my point is dear [10:50:52 PM] Andrew McDougall: you're going to be dead. [10:51:22 PM] Andrew McDougall: so unless you think me killing koshi is enough, then we need somethng a bit more sophisticated than this [10:54:08 PM] Inwho: how do we trust you [10:54:22 PM] Andrew McDougall: i don't know, and i understand why that's a problem. [10:54:34 PM] Inwho: hrmph [10:54:36 PM] Inwho: well [10:54:53 PM] Andrew McDougall: if I propose a couple of shots maybe? [10:55:12 PM] Andrew McDougall: i know you gotta cover your ass [10:57:09 PM] Inwho: Could you propose three shots, and we will choose between them and koshi. [10:57:36 PM] Andrew McDougall: you understand I meant for nights going forward, not this one ? I'm happy to shoot Koshi tonight, simply because he thinks i'm mafia lol [10:58:14 PM] Inwho: oh hold on then :x [10:59:05 PM] Andrew McDougall: silly billy. just think about it, you're proposing we avoid stacking shots but you're only giving me tonight to do so, which is fine and dandy. If that's fine for you guys then whatever [10:59:18 PM] Andrew McDougall: just seems pretty wasteful [10:59:29 PM] Andrew McDougall: if I'm going to side with you we need to kill off town asap [11:00:34 PM] Inwho: KK could you propose 3 for the following night? [11:00:43 PM] Andrew McDougall: sure [11:00:47 PM] Andrew McDougall: let me go have a check. [11:02:06 PM] Andrew McDougall: rayn/adam/oats [11:02:45 PM] Inwho: why rayn? [11:03:02 PM] Andrew McDougall: claimed pardoner + got muted by mafia [11:09:21 PM] Inwho: kk. we want you to shoot koshi tonight, and we'll contact you tomorrow [11:09:36 PM] Inwho: and we want to ask if there's anything else you want to tell us [11:09:49 PM] Andrew McDougall: i guess one of you has a mason then [11:09:59 PM] Andrew McDougall: anything i want to tell you? [11:12:17 PM] Inwho: stop making fishing comments or we will shoot you [11:12:46 PM] Andrew McDougall: I'm a slut for information [11:12:57 PM] Inwho: alrighty then [11:13:02 PM] Andrew McDougall: feel free to try to waste your shots on me though bbygrl x [11:13:22 PM] Inwho: kk this is the end of our correspondense [11:13:27 PM] Andrew McDougall: ok [11:13:28 PM] Inwho: *correspondoce | ||
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kholly
United States74 Posts
On July 24 2013 17:16 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I'm not so keen on layabout atm. Several of the people I've seen call him scum are also not so good looking themselves. Also its happened in magical PM land. What do you think about the SnB and Marv's PMs? What do you think about this PM? + Show Spoiler + [03:44] <@lenwe> What do you think about rayne's list? [03:45] <@lenwe> hello? [03:45] * lenwe slaps mason around a bit with a large fishbot [03:45] * lenwe slaps mason around a bit with a large fishbot [03:45] <mason> ouch [03:45] <mason> hold on let me read it [03:45] <@lenwe> ok [03:47] <mason> It seems to me that there are way too many greens [03:47] <mason> Some of which I would question [03:47] <@lenwe> Which ones? [03:48] <mason> Kushm4sta and Koshi [03:48] <@lenwe> why Koshi? [03:48] <mason> I don't know, it's just a gut feeling [03:49] <@lenwe> what do you think about marv and snb? [03:49] <mason> Yeah I saw your post [03:50] <mason> The PM with yams looks fake [03:50] <mason> as you pointed out earlier, if you take out the message about the obvtownie the PM looks like marv is thinking about hitting vivax as mafia [03:51] <@lenwe> Don't FORGET THE UNCAPITALIZED i's!!! [03:52] <mason> lol, I wont! [03:52] <@lenwe> What about the sk chat? Think that is fake too? [03:52] <mason> I'm not sure to be honest [03:52] <mason> what if he really is the sk? [03:53] <@lenwe> sK!!! UNCAPITALIZE!!! You NEEDS TO LEARN TO CHEBEL!!! [03:53] <mason> wut? [03:53] <@lenwe> Ya know, rebel! [03:53] <@lenwe> but Chebel! [03:53] <mason> really? [03:53] <mason> so confused earlier when I read your post [03:54] <mason> so weird.. [03:54] <@lenwe> MZ vs Marv!! [03:54] <@lenwe> who you thinking? [03:55] <mason> I have no idea [03:55] <mason> both of them | ||
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kholly
United States74 Posts
On July 24 2013 18:21 marvellosity wrote: Can't really be bothered to play particularly if people are going to keep calling me mafia for non-reasons. I've been upfront about any conversations I've had, and spent literally hours of my time talking about mafia to Vivax, as should be evident from our logs. If I'm suddenly red despite how all the actual options have behaved (say wiggles, layabout, Meapak) then there's nothing more I have to add to the thread. Marvy!! Think about little Johnny!!! What would he say if he saw you now? Come on! For Johnny! NEVER GIVE UP!!! PS: Can you post logs with Vivax? or reference them? | ||
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kholly
United States74 Posts
On July 24 2013 18:02 kholly wrote: What do you think about the SnB and Marv's PMs? What do you think about this PM? + Show Spoiler + [03:44] <@lenwe> What do you think about rayne's list? [03:45] <@lenwe> hello? [03:45] * lenwe slaps mason around a bit with a large fishbot [03:45] * lenwe slaps mason around a bit with a large fishbot [03:45] <mason> ouch [03:45] <mason> hold on let me read it [03:45] <@lenwe> ok [03:47] <mason> It seems to me that there are way too many greens [03:47] <mason> Some of which I would question [03:47] <@lenwe> Which ones? [03:48] <mason> Kushm4sta and Koshi [03:48] <@lenwe> why Koshi? [03:48] <mason> I don't know, it's just a gut feeling [03:49] <@lenwe> what do you think about marv and snb? [03:49] <mason> Yeah I saw your post [03:50] <mason> The PM with yams looks fake [03:50] <mason> as you pointed out earlier, if you take out the message about the obvtownie the PM looks like marv is thinking about hitting vivax as mafia [03:51] <@lenwe> Don't FORGET THE UNCAPITALIZED i's!!! [03:52] <mason> lol, I wont! [03:52] <@lenwe> What about the sk chat? Think that is fake too? [03:52] <mason> I'm not sure to be honest [03:52] <mason> what if he really is the sk? [03:53] <@lenwe> sK!!! UNCAPITALIZE!!! You NEEDS TO LEARN TO CHEBEL!!! [03:53] <mason> wut? [03:53] <@lenwe> Ya know, rebel! [03:53] <@lenwe> but Chebel! [03:53] <mason> really? [03:53] <mason> so confused earlier when I read your post [03:54] <mason> so weird.. [03:54] <@lenwe> MZ vs Marv!! [03:54] <@lenwe> who you thinking? [03:55] <mason> I have no idea [03:55] <mason> both of them My mason friend was eerily accurate. I wonder if that is why koshi kill me... On August 04 2013 00:57 syllogism wrote: Doctoring logs is risky since there is a chance he gave the logs to his other mason partner. I don't like posting logs though, and wouldn't do that as either alignment and would prefer if it wasn't allowed at all. As Chezinu would say, "your no fun" | ||
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kholly
United States74 Posts
On August 04 2013 01:28 Chezinu wrote: Yes indeed, You did a pretty good job playing me. However, I would have to say that Kavdragon did a better job. You trolled way too much and wasn't helpful to town. You see, Chezinu knows he has a win condition. But then again, with so many blue roles. I can see Chezinu getting red-blue blind. That is his greatest weakness. Yeah, one mistake I had was thinking that Vayne was actually a detective that rayne was talking about since he was green on his list. I kind of ignored the fact that he voted Dr.H early on and that he wasn't as accurate in reads as he was in the Nuclear Winter Mafia game you were in. He claimed that he was going to investigate marv in the thread after Ace jokingly exclaimed that he was investigate someone whom I have forgotten. When the checks came into the thread between marv and MZ, I believed it was Vayne at the time. That is why I yelled in the thread for the medic to protect Vayne, although at that point I knew there probably wasn't a medic... with the jailkeeper dead and all. If you noticed, everyone I masoned and everyone who masoned me was a blue role. red-blue blindness hurts, especially when everyone in my circle dies. It is true that I was trying to pretend to be the traitor at first. Then when the traitor died, I had an identity crisis. I had to pretend to be something else... After PMing Ace, I had a plan to pretend to be a detective. Ace was dead soon after.... The voice for my sanity had died. Yes, Chezinu. I am just like you.....for I am you. You are in me and I am in you! | ||
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