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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
June 06 2013 02:33 GMT
#561
I've mentioned this before but vote analysis makes it seem unlikely to me that both Sentinel and Rayn were both scum simply because they voted me one after the other. Just doesn't seem a likely scum move when they want to be careful of a green flip.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
June 06 2013 02:34 GMT
#562
On June 06 2013 11:33 Ace wrote:
fuba is the only person most likely confirmed town

This is wrong and you know it.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 06 2013 02:35 GMT
#563
It is that fact.
The reason why its a scumslip, is that he had no idea what Rayn would flip right?
No apparently he knew that rayn would flip scum, and his vote would therefore look bad. And a 'bus'.

SCUMSLIPS EXIST, THEY JUST ARENT THINGS YOU THINK THEY ARE.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 06 2013 02:37 GMT
#564
WoS, ever think about independent play? Where they don't consult each other over every little thing?

Yeah, them voting you one after another is not alignment indicative for Sent in the slightest.
No gg, No skill.
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
June 06 2013 02:37 GMT
#565
Still feel like this was a slip:
On June 06 2013 00:45 layabout wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 00:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
OK first off the Vayne vote was a joke. That much should be obvious.

I was wrong about WoS being a scum given his more recent posting. He seems to be more focused on finding scum now that D1 is in full swing.

So now we have Oats who has little content and sheeps anyone who isn't Ace. And Ace doesn't even look scum.

[##Unvote]
[##Vote Oatsmaster]

Did wos die and flip town then?


On June 06 2013 00:52 layabout wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 00:49 Oatsmaster wrote:
given his more recent posting. He seems to be more focused on finding scum now that D1 is in full swing.

Um layabout?

If you are town you cannot know if you are right or wrong because you do not know the other persons alignment. I am suggesting that sentinel scumslipped.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=18807292
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=18807319
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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
June 06 2013 02:38 GMT
#566
On June 06 2013 11:34 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 11:33 Ace wrote:
fuba is the only person most likely confirmed town

This is wrong and you know it.


He pushed his case vs rayne stronger than anyone else did and didn't have any reservations.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
June 06 2013 02:38 GMT
#567
On June 06 2013 11:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
It is that fact.
The reason why its a scumslip, is that he had no idea what Rayn would flip right?
No apparently he knew that rayn would flip scum, and his vote would therefore look bad. And a 'bus'.

SCUMSLIPS EXIST, THEY JUST ARENT THINGS YOU THINK THEY ARE.

Or he was playing badly and a towny afraid of looking guilty after a likely red flip.
I've made the mistake of doing shit like that before in my early games.

I agree the Sent's posting has been godawful but the analysis I've done outside his posting makes me feel that him flipping scum is simply unlikely. It makes more sense in my opinion to discuss opinions during the day regarding Rayn's lynch. I'm sure at least one of the defenders must be scum; like kita said, they did not want to lose their power role.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
June 06 2013 02:39 GMT
#568
On June 06 2013 11:37 layabout wrote:
Still feel like this was a slip:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 00:45 layabout wrote:
On June 06 2013 00:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
OK first off the Vayne vote was a joke. That much should be obvious.

I was wrong about WoS being a scum given his more recent posting. He seems to be more focused on finding scum now that D1 is in full swing.

So now we have Oats who has little content and sheeps anyone who isn't Ace. And Ace doesn't even look scum.

[##Unvote]
[##Vote Oatsmaster]

Did wos die and flip town then?


Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 00:52 layabout wrote:
On June 06 2013 00:49 Oatsmaster wrote:
given his more recent posting. He seems to be more focused on finding scum now that D1 is in full swing.

Um layabout?

If you are town you cannot know if you are right or wrong because you do not know the other persons alignment. I am suggesting that sentinel scumslipped.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=18807292
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=18807319

Hmm.
Two slips makes it more likely and Oats you have a point I suppose. In any case I don't know yet who my main focus for D2 will be.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 06 2013 02:41 GMT
#569
ACE WoS.

ACE IS THE PRIME PERSON. prp too.
No gg, No skill.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
June 06 2013 02:42 GMT
#570
On June 06 2013 11:38 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 11:34 WaveofShadow wrote:
On June 06 2013 11:33 Ace wrote:
fuba is the only person most likely confirmed town

This is wrong and you know it.


He pushed his case vs rayne stronger than anyone else did and didn't have any reservations.

I'm not going to go the arrogant towny route and assume that I should be confirmed town, but come on man, I pushed plenty hard.

Hmm. I started to type up a few people who I feel are town and why but then I realized I probably shouldn't be doing that. At night. Before NKs. Interesting that you find it a relevant topic of conversation right now.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
June 06 2013 02:43 GMT
#571
On June 06 2013 11:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
ACE WoS.

ACE IS THE PRIME PERSON. prp too.

Alright Oats, what do you think of my last post regarding Ace, and what do you think of what I mentioned about prplhz 'liking' my case on Rayn then flipping pretty quick?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
June 06 2013 02:45 GMT
#572
Only reason I didn't include you is because you were willing to switch off of rayne and fuba wasn't (unless I missed something).
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 06 2013 02:45 GMT
#573
Im counting sentinels shit as a scumslip until he explains why.

I think Ace should die for not finding scum.
prp has been weird, he said he would play not lurky, but he has not really been involved with the game I feel.

So both scum!.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 06 2013 02:47 GMT
#574
what I meant about Ace not finding scum, was that he hasn't been looking for scum.

I have no idea why he thinks Im scum, why he voted for WoS and rayn without explaining anything, hasn't addressed anything I brought up after the flip about him.
No gg, No skill.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
June 06 2013 02:50 GMT
#575
Um...are you serious? I was here in the beginning and answered YOUR questions and went afk. The entire time I was gone you kept tunneling me for no reason and ignored me. How can I be blamed for not looking for scum when the minute I came back I was participating in the thread?

what Scum were you trying to find since this is the standard you are holding me to? prove it.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
June 06 2013 02:59 GMT
#576
Ace you have been hella inactive. You wasted all day 1 being afk. Do some analyze later when the day is almost over. Attempt to make a voite switch to Oats out of no where after you vote for rayn. Meh im not sure i like it.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
June 06 2013 03:03 GMT
#577
Me being afk doesn't mean I'm scum though. The minute I came back I was active and even voted for rayne. I only attempted to switch off when we established rayne might be an inactivity lynch.

What about that chain of events is scummy? What was I supposed to do - lurk? And then get accused for that too?
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
June 06 2013 03:13 GMT
#578
On June 06 2013 12:03 Ace wrote:
Me being afk doesn't mean I'm scum though. The minute I came back I was active and even voted for rayne. I only attempted to switch off when we established rayne might be an inactivity lynch.

What about that chain of events is scummy? What was I supposed to do - lurk? And then get accused for that too?

I'm too lazy to check atm...when 'we' established Rayn might be an inactivity lynch? When was that ever established?
I'm not sure who attempted to push that line of thinking in the first place. You had a long post that analyzed everyone's pushes on Rayn I believe and in the end you summarized it as 'half of us are voting because of inactivity, and the other half have legit reasons.'
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
June 06 2013 03:16 GMT
#579
Regardless of what reasons people have for voting him. The reason YOU had convinced you that he was scum. (That reason being that he thought vayne was town simply because vayne know his play style)

Having that piece of information lead you to believe that rayne was scum. However you back tracked after you said other people might have given reasons for inactivity. But other peoples voting reasons shouldn't of had such a big impact on your read. Why does it matter why they vote for him. If you think rayne is scum?
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
June 06 2013 03:22 GMT
#580
On June 06 2013 12:13 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 12:03 Ace wrote:
Me being afk doesn't mean I'm scum though. The minute I came back I was active and even voted for rayne. I only attempted to switch off when we established rayne might be an inactivity lynch.

What about that chain of events is scummy? What was I supposed to do - lurk? And then get accused for that too?

I'm too lazy to check atm...when 'we' established Rayn might be an inactivity lynch? When was that ever established?
I'm not sure who attempted to push that line of thinking in the first place. You had a long post that analyzed everyone's pushes on Rayn I believe and in the end you summarized it as 'half of us are voting because of inactivity, and the other half have legit reasons.'


yes that post. read up the discussion surrounding it.

On June 06 2013 12:16 jaybrundage wrote:
Regardless of what reasons people have for voting him. The reason YOU had convinced you that he was scum. (That reason being that he thought vayne was town simply because vayne know his play style)

Having that piece of information lead you to believe that rayne was scum. However you back tracked after you said other people might have given reasons for inactivity. But other peoples voting reasons shouldn't of had such a big impact on your read. Why does it matter why they vote for him. If you think rayne is scum?



It does matter what they think - notice how I originally voted for rayne. I was first on Oats (who ignored my question) and as I read the thread switched to rayne based on furba's post. As it went on it was clear some people were voting for rayne because he was inactive, and not based on scum reads. That is prime setting for a mislynch.

Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
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