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On June 06 2013 12:22 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2013 12:13 WaveofShadow wrote:On June 06 2013 12:03 Ace wrote:
Me being afk doesn't mean I'm scum though. The minute I came back I was active and even voted for rayne. I only attempted to switch off when we established rayne might be an inactivity lynch.
What about that chain of events is scummy? What was I supposed to do - lurk? And then get accused for that too? I'm too lazy to check atm...when 'we' established Rayn might be an inactivity lynch? When was that ever established? I'm not sure who attempted to push that line of thinking in the first place. You had a long post that analyzed everyone's pushes on Rayn I believe and in the end you summarized it as 'half of us are voting because of inactivity, and the other half have legit reasons.' yes that post. read up the discussion surrounding it. Show nested quote +On June 06 2013 12:16 jaybrundage wrote:
Regardless of what reasons people have for voting him. The reason YOU had convinced you that he was scum. (That reason being that he thought vayne was town simply because vayne know his play style)
Having that piece of information lead you to believe that rayne was scum. However you back tracked after you said other people might have given reasons for inactivity. But other peoples voting reasons shouldn't of had such a big impact on your read. Why does it matter why they vote for him. If you think rayne is scum? It does matter what they think - notice how I originally voted for rayne. I was first on Oats (who ignored my question) and as I read the thread switched to rayne based on furba's post. As it went on it was clear some people were voting for rayne because he was inactive, and not based on scum reads. That is prime setting for a mislynch.
I disagree it doesnt matter what they think. If you think someone is scum. Then lynch the person you think is scum. Just cause other people have weird reasons they vote for someone (inactivity you stated) It doesnt matter cause you have better reasons (what you stated was rayns odd reasoning for having a town read on vayne.) Unless you change your mind and dont think someone is scum then you should switch. What reason did you have for leaving the rayn lynch? Other people had bad reasons for voting does not seem like a legitimate answer
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But thats the exact reason why I left the WoS lynch...
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On June 06 2013 12:56 Zephirdd wrote:
But thats the exact reason why I left the WoS lynch...
Hmm But isnt my logic sound. If you have a valid reason to suspect someone is scum do the people who are voting for your scum candidate really effect your decision that much i dont get it : /
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Me being afk doesn't mean I'm scum though. The minute I came back I was active and even voted for rayne. I only attempted to switch off when we established rayne might be an inactivity lynch.
YOU EVEN VOTED FOR RAYN? MAN PROPS TOWNIE POINTS.
oh wait you tried to switch off of rayn.
No more townie points.
aw Ace.
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Oats it wasn't a scumslip, you realize I was talking about "looking scummy", not "being scummy"?
I had a problem changing my vote because I thought someone could make a case for me being scum either way. If I switched and rayn flipped red, it would look to potential accusers like I was bussing him. If I didn't, it would look to them like I was potentially ignoring him.
Stop grasping at straws that don't exist (*hem* Ace *hem*)
Ots pls
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No.
Sent.
The point is, in both of your scenarios, rayn flips red.
There is no scenario where rayn flips green in your head.
Thats where you scumslipped.
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On June 06 2013 18:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
No.
Sent.
The point is, in both of your scenarios, rayn flips red.
There is no scenario where rayn flips green in your head.
Thats where you scumslipped.
I was certain by that point that he was red. Just a matter of voting for him or not.
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On June 06 2013 19:40 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2013 18:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
No.
Sent.
The point is, in both of your scenarios, rayn flips red.
There is no scenario where rayn flips green in your head.
Thats where you scumslipped.
I was certain by that point that he was red. Just a matter of voting for him or not.
um.
why do you care that you look bad when you 'know' he is red?
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On June 06 2013 19:40 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2013 18:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
No.
Sent.
The point is, in both of your scenarios, rayn flips red.
There is no scenario where rayn flips green in your head.
Thats where you scumslipped.
I was certain by that point that he was red. Just a matter of voting for him or not. This confuses me. Your previous post seems to imply that you weren't sure if rayn was scum or not:On June 06 2013 18:51 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Oats it wasn't a scumslip, you realize I was talking about "looking scummy", not "being scummy"? Explain what this last statement was supposed to mean.
Regardless, I'm gonna call your statement that you were "certain by that point that he was red" total BS. Here's your post where you vote him:On June 06 2013 05:04 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Whether or not I sheep rayne my vote will look scummy.
Going with my gut I guess.
##unvote
##vote: raynpelikoneet So you were going with your gut and that was enough for you to be certain he was scum? Cmon.
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We lynching Sent tmr.
Sent, if in fact you are town, go and look at Les Mis and emulate BH's play there after he got pretty much lynched for scumslipping, he flipped town. If you do that, Ill lynch whoever you want.
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On June 06 2013 21:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
We lynching Sent tmr.
Sent, if in fact you are town, go and look at Les Mis and emulate BH's play there after he got pretty much lynched for scumslipping, he flipped town. If you do that, Ill lynch whoever you want.
I know its hard to be objective since I was scum but I want to say I wouldn't have lynched BH in that game.
What do you mean you'll lynch whoever he wants? Assuming he is town, I can't say I'd trust his reads enough to do that. That being said I agree that Sent really needs to pick up his play.
Vayne too imo. Still want to hear what he has to say about me making long cases that are wrong?
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On June 06 2013 22:50 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2013 21:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
We lynching Sent tmr.
Sent, if in fact you are town, go and look at Les Mis and emulate BH's play there after he got pretty much lynched for scumslipping, he flipped town. If you do that, Ill lynch whoever you want.
I know its hard to be objective since I was scum but I want to say I wouldn't have lynched BH in that game. What do you mean you'll lynch whoever he wants? Assuming he is town, I can't say I'd trust his reads enough to do that. That being said I agree that Sent really needs to pick up his play. Vayne too imo. Still want to hear what he has to say about me making long cases that are wrong?
Im saying if he plays like BH in that game. I will sheep him. If he does whatever he does, I will push for his lynch.
Is that hard to understand?
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On June 06 2013 22:53 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2013 22:50 WaveofShadow wrote:On June 06 2013 21:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
We lynching Sent tmr.
Sent, if in fact you are town, go and look at Les Mis and emulate BH's play there after he got pretty much lynched for scumslipping, he flipped town. If you do that, Ill lynch whoever you want.
I know its hard to be objective since I was scum but I want to say I wouldn't have lynched BH in that game. What do you mean you'll lynch whoever he wants? Assuming he is town, I can't say I'd trust his reads enough to do that. That being said I agree that Sent really needs to pick up his play. Vayne too imo. Still want to hear what he has to say about me making long cases that are wrong? Im saying if he plays like BH in that game. I will sheep him. If he does whatever he does, I will push for his lynch. Is that hard to understand?
Yes. It doesn't make sense to me that you'd sheep someone whose quality of reads is questionable, even if they are town.
Also rereading the past few hours I'd like to hear from jay why he found fuba scmmier than rayn.
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On June 06 2013 10:14 Zephirdd wrote:prplhz: This guy is pretty good and I don't see any of that so far. He hasn't done much so far and I don't like any of it. => raynpelikoneet is being little scummier. => I'd lynch Oatsmaster over raynpelikoneet. => "The only reason to lynch raynpelikoneet is his VayneAuthority town read." + "I think raynpelikoneet is a bad lynch today and I really don't think we should lynch him." And then proceeds to maintain "lynch oats" and "rayn is town". Show nested quote +yea well no one with a brain would seriously think you're the scummiest inhere anyway
Yeah I just reread his filter and it's pretty suspect how he 180s on Rayn. He goes from calling his scummy @ least 3 seperate times and saying how he really likes WoS's case against him to totally defending him hard once rayn starts getting alot of votes. He was perfectly happy accusing rayn when it looked like he was safe from the lynch. He then sheeped my Oats read because if u look @ thread sentiment @ the time, Oats looked like the only possible person that we could manage a switch to @ that time. Then he responds to rayns goodbye post immediately before the flip:On June 06 2013 08:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I really am busy for the record. :/ On June 06 2013 08:02 prplhz wrote:
yea well no one with a brain would seriously think you're the scummiest inhere anyway
First of all, that's a pretty big change from what he had said earlier. But what really stands out to me about this: When Rayn made that post, I immediately thought "oshit, maybe he really is scum". Like why would a townie make that post? Seemed to me that he was saying "Yeah I may be scum, but my excuse was legit". Prplz post reeks of a "Hey look I'm just a bad townie. Why would I call someone green right before they flip red if I was really scum?".
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On June 06 2013 18:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
No.
Sent.
The point is, in both of your scenarios, rayn flips red.
There is no scenario where rayn flips green in your head.
Thats where you scumslipped.
On June 06 2013 20:06 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2013 19:40 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On June 06 2013 18:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
No.
Sent.
The point is, in both of your scenarios, rayn flips red.
There is no scenario where rayn flips green in your head.
Thats where you scumslipped.
I was certain by that point that he was red. Just a matter of voting for him or not. um. why do you care that you look bad when you 'know' he is red?
Oats 2 pro, plz accept wool!
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[UoN]Sentinel, could you start stating your case against Oats tonight before the NKs?
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On June 07 2013 00:18 slOosh wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2013 18:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
No.
Sent.
The point is, in both of your scenarios, rayn flips red.
There is no scenario where rayn flips green in your head.
Thats where you scumslipped.
Show nested quote +On June 06 2013 20:06 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 06 2013 19:40 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On June 06 2013 18:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
No.
Sent.
The point is, in both of your scenarios, rayn flips red.
There is no scenario where rayn flips green in your head.
Thats where you scumslipped.
I was certain by that point that he was red. Just a matter of voting for him or not. um. why do you care that you look bad when you 'know' he is red? Oats 2 pro, plz accept wool!
Thank you kind sir.
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I'm kind of busy until tomorrow so don't expect a lot out of me before the day post. I'll try to get in what I can though.
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Productive night phase. Anyone feel like offering an opinion on my prplhz case or anything else?
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