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On May 22 2013 01:31 s0Lstice wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2013 01:26 marvellosity wrote:On May 22 2013 01:24 s0Lstice wrote:On May 18 2013 22:21 JarJarDrinks wrote:On May 18 2013 22:11 marvellosity wrote:On May 18 2013 22:03 iamperfection wrote:
marv do you think jarjar would try to throw dirt on bh if bh is town and jarjar were scum? Maybe? I understand what you're getting at, but I'm ambivalent about it. Is he trying to imply that BH and I are scumbuddies? Is that so when BH flips red I don't look quite as good? If you think me and BH are both scum then help me bus him. ##vote: blazinghand(Sorry if I'm interpretting your post wrong iamp. But that's what I felt like u were saying) This post by JarJar is just so ballsy and fearless. I can't help but assign JJ mad townie points every time I read it. Definitely muddies the waters for me. Either that or it's hilariously honest. lol. That could explain the aggressiveness and anger. Hes spent the whole game building credit for the bus, but no credit is being assigned to him. Associations before the flip ftw
Little tidbit for you to think about. The original question from iamp to me was saying this: "do you think jarjar would try to throw dirt on bh if bh is town and jarjar were scum?"
What iamp was implying was this: how likely is it for a newer scumplayer to attack a known, stronger player? iamp is basically saying that JarJar looks townier for attacking a strong player.
This isn't necessarily that obvious, but JarJar thinks that iamp is saying that Jarjar (mafia) would only attack BH if he were mafia. It could well mean implied guilt, when the original intention of iamp's was actually more of a mini-defence.
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EBWOP: by "this isn't necessarily that obvious", I mean it's not necessarily that obvious that that was what iamp was saying.
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On May 22 2013 01:39 DarthPunk wrote:
@ WoS listen to marv. He is right. Blazinghand was scum to me because I was around in the moment and his reactions revealed a scum mindset tellingly, but I can understand at that point if others didn't agree. But the way he has constantly talked about scum hunting or being productive in the Mason QT but has not actually produced anything is the most telling. This guy can't scumhunt cause he doesn't want to give any info so he is sitting tight, making all the promises in the world like some guy trying to lose his virginity.
About goodkarma. I was going to say once again that I would rather wait and see before I pass judgement on Him. But then I realised that I have been saying that all along with no payoff from GK. and the reason for that is that I am fond of Goodkarma because we grew up together.
There IS something off about goodkarma, marv's points are good and the fundamental problem I am having is all the Excuses.
Such as
But I am always scummy day one
This always happens to me
I didn't even read my role PM but now I did and I am town even though if I was scum I would also say I was town.
Now it is day two and goodkarma still is not looking very good.
The thing is though. Town goodkarma is fucking townie townie rainbows. So this isn't very hard.
Goodkarma either becomes townie townie rainbows and takes fucking charge of the scm hunt like I know he is capable of. (best town newbie performance 2012)
or we lynch the shit out of him next. and Dandel.
in fact. I am calling a scum team rite nao.
BH, Dandel, Goodkarma and JJD if one of those isn't scum
lol DP that's pretty much what I have as scumteam atm, and I think iamp had the same thing?
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I feel I didn't explain that very well at all. Basically JJD interpreted iamp's question in the most negative light possible, i.e. insinuating they were both mafia, rather than the intended meaning of iamp's post. It seems a weird mindset.
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On May 22 2013 01:39 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2013 01:37 VayneAuthority wrote:On May 22 2013 01:35 marvellosity wrote:On May 22 2013 01:29 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Marv or anyone, has there ever been a game with 2 town night masons as BH would like to believe? I ask because my issue with BH is turning less about the 'slip' and more about the setup and his defense.
With Iamp flipping mason it would seem weird for a setup to have 2 town night masons. Just doesn't feel right. Also as Marv pointed out, BH's delayed postings are troubling and definitely scum indicative. I'd say a 1-1 split was perhaps more likely, but a 2-0 split is certainly pretty possible. If anyone's lynching BH because we've had a town mason flip they're doing it wrong, it's circumstancial evidence at best. This is exactly what I mean, I don't want to lynch BH just because a town mason flipped, he hasn't acted that scummy before this whole stalling thing. Usually when hes accused hes very quick to fight back but hes kinda laying low. Wouldnt be surprised if hes telling his mafia team what to do after he dies or something. He hasn't? Did you read his drunkposting fiasco?
yea and I maintained to not kill BH. you can read my filter, I have been very consistent on this. He isnt playing like he did in carnival where he flipped scum. He looks just like a defeated townie to me but I guess we will see if he just gave up as scum.
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Marv you better respond because i am both tired and wired from coffeee and i put in effort just cause you asked me.
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On May 22 2013 01:56 DarthPunk wrote:
Marv you better respond because i am both tired and wired from coffeee and i put in effort just cause you asked me.
haha sorry, I have nothing to respond to, it all looks pretty good.
For me Dandel is below JJD, however.
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Where IS JJD during all this?
Did he just fuck off again?
Marv I'll look into XXXIX and do a full read of JJD when I get the chance. Was that the game where scum fucked up at LYLO with the 3 man vote switch? I was obsing that game and stopped paying attention to it at some point.
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On May 21 2013 20:36 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2013 16:36 Blazinghand wrote:On May 21 2013 16:30 yamato77 wrote:
Yeah, I guess we just lynch BH.
At this point, he's as good as confirmed mafia. confirmed by what? By my poor D1 play, which is not unlike other town games I've played? By my scumslip, which doesn't exist, and is something I do often as blue? Or by my strident and stirring defense of myself? If you say, "look, BH has spent most of his time defending himself, and not enough time hunting scum since DP went full retard on him" then that's a valid point, but then ask yourself this-- what would you do in my shoes? And also, knowing what you know about who I am and how I think, do you really consider this a scumtell? I'm not actually sure how I went 'full retard' on you. like i can understand if you are scum trying to discredit me. But if you are town how do you go from earlier calling it a strong case to now calling it going 'full retard'
the possibilities are not mutually exclusive. Deciding you're not going to interact with me or defend your case is full retard.
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I'm gonna be real, not feeling as motivated as I used to. I'm sure I'll get something done before I inevitably get lynched
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oh, wow, looks like there's a real debate going. bleh now I gotta try to not get lynched
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On May 22 2013 03:05 Blazinghand wrote:
oh, wow, looks like there's a real debate going. bleh now I gotta try to not get lynched
Please have something out by tonight, the later it goes the worse it will get for you.
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Yeah I am going to get something done in the next 1.5 hours, so that there's a full 24 hours to discuss before the deadline. I can't reasonably expect to not get lynched otherwise.
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I like the ides of lynching BH/GK/DI all in order. Scummy fucks are scummy.
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Thanks for that insight yamato, you're a star.
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I'd most like to hear from Dandel on this post, but given he didn't seem to care the first time, would you mind providing your thoughts on this analysis? On a related note, I'll be putting together a more fleshed out Dandel case before the day cycle is over.
On May 21 2013 07:45 goodkarma wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2013 06:59 Dandel Ion wrote:
Why would a team around scum-BH shoot iamperfection, directly implicating him further?
Basically, that assumes that either a SK shot iamp, or he's getting bussed all the way. Otherwise it just makes no sense. What kind of logic is this? Iamp was a strong town read to almost everyone here, and only mason-claimed 7 minutes before the end of the night cycle. It's very possible that the scumteam already planned on killing him, and didn't have time to react. Further, even if they did have time, why wouldn't the scumteam go for the blue? I doubt that there's two town masons in this kind of setup. With that in mind, I'd treat it as a counterclaim. Would you believe Iamp or BH is scum? In other words, BH is very likely getting lynched after iamp's claim regardless of whether iamp lives. So in either case it would make sense for scum to shoot him. That you implicate it's dumb for scum to shoot a claimed blue is very very scummy. There's clear scum motive for this post, and I have trouble visualizing how as town you'd think like this. Combined with your tunnelly and useless play this game, I'd be very interested in lynching you after we lynch BH.
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On May 22 2013 05:03 marvellosity wrote:
Thanks for that insight yamato, you're a star.
Only the best <3
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Note, I've already given my reasons for wanting to lynch all three of those people, Marv.
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On May 22 2013 05:09 yamato77 wrote:
Note, I've already given my reasons for wanting to lynch all three of those people, Marv.
Best not engage in any of the other discourse then!
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On May 22 2013 05:29 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2013 05:09 yamato77 wrote:
Note, I've already given my reasons for wanting to lynch all three of those people, Marv. Best not engage in any of the other discourse then!
hue
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