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On May 22 2013 06:48 Dandel Ion wrote:
but good point on the switch onto iamp
although, i guess as was pointed out, it's technically possible he was the shot all along, albeit unlikely, seeing as Hapa is not on the player list
This is your triumphant return to the thread Dandel? I don't understand this meta shit, say something that makes sense to me.
BH now that you finally appear to be giving us reads, you've probably seen the scumreads that a few of us seem to share atm. Do you have anyone who doesn't fit into that list and if so, why? That would be more valuable imo if you somehow flip town.
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Blazinghand
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Just as a personal request to the people voting me: it's fine that your vote is on me, and I get why you want to lynch me. That being said, I want to be productive for these last 24 hours. I'd like for you to treat me as confirmed town in our discussions, or at the very least evaluate my cases and reads without taking into account the fact that you think I'm scum. I'm going to try my hardest to leave behind a filter and reads that can catch all the scum in this game. If you really think I'm scum, consider this an opportunity to get a bunch of associative tells-- and when I flip town, you'll be glad. I'm going to do my best to create a co-operative and productive discourse for this day.
Yamato, I personally request this from you as well, since, as you admit, you've slowed down. I'd like you to weigh in on my GK case, specifically the meta component (since we're not talking about PM shenannnies) and let me know what you think of it.
On May 22 2013 06:46 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2013 06:41 Blazinghand wrote:
And, I get it, maybe you think I'm scum, but at the very least if we're dead set on lynching me today we might as well discuss the next lynch, right? Pretend I'm town and talk with me, and if I flip scum if you want you can ignore it all, but I'm going to flip town and you're going to be very glad you did talk with me. I asked you what you thought about my reads a little while ago, could you go towards the end of my filter and tell me what you think?
Absolutely.
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Blazinghand
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off hand I'd say I think JJD is town, not scum. That being said, I'll take a look at the current consensus and see where I disagree.
On May 22 2013 06:48 Dandel Ion wrote:
but good point on the switch onto iamp
although, i guess as was pointed out, it's technically possible he was the shot all along, albeit unlikely, seeing as Hapa is not on the player list
I'm absolutey certain the iamp shot was in response to his roleclaim.
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On May 22 2013 06:41 Blazinghand wrote:
And, I get it, maybe you think I'm scum, but at the very least if we're dead set on lynching me today we might as well discuss the next lynch, right? Pretend I'm town and talk with me, and if I flip scum if you want you can ignore it all, but I'm going to flip town and you're going to be very glad you did talk with me.
Let's talk.
I'm curious about your town read on JJD. I'm phone posting so I can't pull the quote since I'm on my phone but someone posted about his meta that seemed pretty damming in addition to his overall scummy stylle. If you have access to a computer can you check out what I'm talking about and give your thoughts. If not I'll pull the quote tomorrow morning and would like your thoughts before the flip.
Also can you clarify your last paragraph (the one about JJD where you say "he may be wrong, but his earnest attack doesn't make sense from a town perspective."
Who's attack doesn't make sense and why doesn't it from a town perspective if both people you're addressing there are people you have town reads on?
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Blazinghand
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On May 22 2013 07:07 Stutters695 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2013 06:41 Blazinghand wrote:
And, I get it, maybe you think I'm scum, but at the very least if we're dead set on lynching me today we might as well discuss the next lynch, right? Pretend I'm town and talk with me, and if I flip scum if you want you can ignore it all, but I'm going to flip town and you're going to be very glad you did talk with me. Let's talk. I'm curious about your town read on JJD. I'm phone posting so I can't pull the quote since I'm on my phone but someone posted about his meta that seemed pretty damming in addition to his overall scummy stylle. If you have access to a computer can you check out what I'm talking about and give your thoughts. If not I'll pull the quote tomorrow morning and would like your thoughts before the flip. Also can you clarify your last paragraph (the one about JJD where you say "he may be wrong, but his earnest attack doesn't make sense from a town perspective." Who's attack doesn't make sense and why doesn't it from a town perspective if both people you're addressing there are people you have town reads on?
Ah, my bad, that was a typo. I meant to say, JJD's attack on DP doesn't make a huge amount of sense to me from a scum perspective. This might just be because I know I'm going to flip town, but it seems to be a scum JJD might take this opportunity to buddy JJD and help secure an easy mislynch.
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My counter to that would be after the NKs there really isn't anything needed to be done really to secure your mislynch. JJD isn't going to get credit for getting on your wagon and he's going to struggle to get credit for anything that isn't drastically off the general sentiment of the thread.
I wouldn't consider him a prime target for tomorrow but I honestly feel like it's a stretch to call him anything above null.
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Blazinghand
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That's fair enough. I also have to consider the possibility of him planning on pushing a DP mislynch after I flip, saying DP is responsible for mislynching a townie, etc. Obviously this won't be on your radar as a concept until I flip town, but it's something for me to think about at least.
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Not saying that's likely, but I'm having a hard time getting past his meta.
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Blazinghand
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No, that's a fair objection and there is actually a scum motive for attacking DP during the night given that he knows how I'll flip.
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Another thing I'd like to get your thoughts on.
I put together a cursory read on DI towards the end on d1/early n1. It might be a little hard to follow considering I didn't quote the posts. I also noticed you've been ignoring him for the most part in your own filter. Can you go over my read/filter dive him and give me your thoughts along with why you've been so silent on a controversial person?
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Sorry for the slow responses, posting at work(as if that's any surprise lol)
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BH for someone doing his best to engage people in the thread, you appear to be ignoring me.
Dandel I expect it from. You I don't.
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Also I'd like to bounce some thoughts off you regarding Grush and WoS if that's cool since those were the other two you were looking at (plus me, but if you have any questions about my filter you'll have yo ask those and I'll explain).
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Blazinghand
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On May 22 2013 08:13 WaveofShadow wrote:
BH for someone doing his best to engage people in the thread, you appear to be ignoring me.
Dandel I expect it from. You I don't.
I'm certain I've directly responded to your recent post addressing me. Is there another post besides this one (link) of yours that you want me to read?
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Blazinghand
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On May 22 2013 08:07 Stutters695 wrote:
Another thing I'd like to get your thoughts on.
I put together a cursory read on DI towards the end on d1/early n1. It might be a little hard to follow considering I didn't quote the posts. I also noticed you've been ignoring him for the most part in your own filter. Can you go over my read/filter dive him and give me your thoughts along with why you've been so silent on a controversial person?
Aside from his shitfest with marv (which I consider scummy (link)) DI has not been on my radar. I'll take a look at what else he's done this game and formulate a more complete read.
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On May 22 2013 08:22 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2013 08:13 WaveofShadow wrote:
BH for someone doing his best to engage people in the thread, you appear to be ignoring me.
Dandel I expect it from. You I don't. I'm certain I've directly responded to your recent post addressing me. Is there another post besides this one (link) of yours that you want me to read?
Apparently I've missed it then. Can you show me?
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Blazinghand
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On May 22 2013 07:01 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2013 06:48 Dandel Ion wrote:
but good point on the switch onto iamp
although, i guess as was pointed out, it's technically possible he was the shot all along, albeit unlikely, seeing as Hapa is not on the player list This is your triumphant return to the thread Dandel? I don't understand this meta shit, say something that makes sense to me. BH now that you finally appear to be giving us reads, you've probably seen the scumreads that a few of us seem to share atm. Do you have anyone who doesn't fit into that list and if so, why? That would be more valuable imo if you somehow flip town.
On May 22 2013 07:05 Blazinghand wrote:
off hand I'd say I think JJD is town, not scum. That being said, I'll take a look at the current consensus and see where I disagree.
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Oh I see, misunderstanding. I meant do you have scumreads outside of JJD/dandel/GK?
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Blazinghand
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On May 22 2013 08:17 Stutters695 wrote:
Also I'd like to bounce some thoughts off you regarding Grush and WoS if that's cool since those were the other two you were looking at (plus me, but if you have any questions about my filter you'll have yo ask those and I'll explain).
Go right ahead! Unfortunately, I typically find grush unreadable as any alignment and an unusually unuseful townie. Up until LX I had a policy of lynching Grush D1, though Marv is generally able to discern his alignment with regularity.
I'm modestly sure WoS is scum. He had an extremely flip-floppy post earlier in the game (link). I had him as one of my top scumreads over the course of D1, and it seems like he's fishing for reasons to attack me (like, what? I'm clearly getting lynched today) and not really reading what I have to write today. I'm not as positive on this as I am on my GK scumread though.
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Blazinghand
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On May 22 2013 08:32 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh I see, misunderstanding. I meant do you have scumreads outside of JJD/dandel/GK?
1) 3 scumreads is clearly enough
2) I no longer have a scumread on JJD, if you've been reading my interaction with stutters this page
3) not really a solid scumread on DI, though this is suject to change
4) you
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