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Blazinghand
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alright I'm gonna grab dinner and stuff. my glorious return to the thread shall push back the veil with spears of logic and truth
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
here's a screenshot of dinner for proof
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On May 22 2013 08:33 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2013 08:32 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh I see, misunderstanding. I meant do you have scumreads outside of JJD/dandel/GK? 1) 3 scumreads is clearly enough 2) I no longer have a scumread on JJD, if you've been reading my interaction with stutters this page 3) not really a solid scumread on DI, though this is suject to change 4) you
1) Why is that enough? Who are your three?
2) I have been
3) ok
4) elaborate please
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His three would be GK, you, DI in order of scumminess based off of our talks.
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On May 22 2013 08:46 Stutters695 wrote:
His three would be GK, you, DI in order of scumminess based off of our talks.
Alright I was about to ask where the hell he mentioned me but it appears he posted while I was writing something and I missed it.
I'm curious as to why 3 scumreads is enough. I'd also still like him to elaborate on me because that's a hell of a lot less detail he goes into than he did regarding GK.
I'm modestly sure WoS is scum. He had an extremely flip-floppy post earlier in the game (link). I had him as one of my top scumreads over the course of D1, and it seems like he's fishing for reasons to attack me (like, what? I'm clearly getting lynched today) and not really reading what I have to write today. I'm not as positive on this as I am on my GK scumread though.
A days-old read is not enough imo, especially since he says I was one of his top scumreads and he did absolutely nothing about it. I'm fishing for reasons to attack him as well he says, when in fact I'm trying to cover all avenues and possibilities because as I've said multiple times, I'M NOT sure BH is 100% scum. BH you say I don't read what you've wrote but have you read at all what I've written about you? This is a completely baseless attack on me and reeks of absolutely no effort. Why do I not deserve the effort you seem to have started putting into the game recently?
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Marv (and all)--
This is compelling:
On May 22 2013 01:40 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2013 01:31 s0Lstice wrote:On May 22 2013 01:26 marvellosity wrote:On May 22 2013 01:24 s0Lstice wrote:On May 18 2013 22:21 JarJarDrinks wrote:On May 18 2013 22:11 marvellosity wrote:On May 18 2013 22:03 iamperfection wrote:
marv do you think jarjar would try to throw dirt on bh if bh is town and jarjar were scum? Maybe? I understand what you're getting at, but I'm ambivalent about it. Is he trying to imply that BH and I are scumbuddies? Is that so when BH flips red I don't look quite as good? If you think me and BH are both scum then help me bus him. ##vote: blazinghand(Sorry if I'm interpretting your post wrong iamp. But that's what I felt like u were saying) This post by JarJar is just so ballsy and fearless. I can't help but assign JJ mad townie points every time I read it. Definitely muddies the waters for me. Either that or it's hilariously honest. lol. That could explain the aggressiveness and anger. Hes spent the whole game building credit for the bus, but no credit is being assigned to him. Associations before the flip ftw Little tidbit for you to think about. The original question from iamp to me was saying this: "do you think jarjar would try to throw dirt on bh if bh is town and jarjar were scum?" What iamp was implying was this: how likely is it for a newer scumplayer to attack a known, stronger player? iamp is basically saying that JarJar looks townier for attacking a strong player. This isn't necessarily that obvious, but JarJar thinks that iamp is saying that Jarjar (mafia) would only attack BH if he were mafia. It could well mean implied guilt, when the original intention of iamp's was actually more of a mini-defence.
I went back and read that exchange and I see what you are getting at. I think it's significant. Building on what I said here...
On May 22 2013 01:31 s0Lstice wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2013 01:26 marvellosity wrote:On May 22 2013 01:24 s0Lstice wrote:On May 18 2013 22:21 JarJarDrinks wrote:On May 18 2013 22:11 marvellosity wrote:On May 18 2013 22:03 iamperfection wrote:
marv do you think jarjar would try to throw dirt on bh if bh is town and jarjar were scum? Maybe? I understand what you're getting at, but I'm ambivalent about it. Is he trying to imply that BH and I are scumbuddies? Is that so when BH flips red I don't look quite as good? If you think me and BH are both scum then help me bus him. ##vote: blazinghand(Sorry if I'm interpretting your post wrong iamp. But that's what I felt like u were saying) This post by JarJar is just so ballsy and fearless. I can't help but assign JJ mad townie points every time I read it. Definitely muddies the waters for me. Either that or it's hilariously honest. lol. That could explain the aggressiveness and anger. Hes spent the whole game building credit for the bus, but no credit is being assigned to him. Associations before the flip ftw
...I went to look at JJ's filter again to see if it looked like he was scrambling for credit for BH's flip, because I seemed to remember him fighting for it a lot.
On May 20 2013 22:39 JarJarDrinks wrote:
All caught up.
So BH scumslipped? I'm shocked. /end sarcasm
FWIW, I don't it's unreasonable to think that DP is bussing here. He's trying to gain town cred for a lynch that almost happened yesterday. If they thought that BH was most likely gonna get lynched or vigged, it'd be a pretty good scum play IMO.
I'm not saying I definately think it's true, but DP "catching" BH in scumslip when there are already several people suspecting BH doesn't make me think DP is any more likely to be town.
Bolded is a passive reminder that he's been saying this all along. Also, talking about a DP bus play is just off the wall nuts imo. I see no reason why this thought would cross any town players mind at this juncture...but it could come from the mind of someone who has been thinking 'bus' all game. This is pointed out in the next quote.
On May 20 2013 22:56 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2013 22:46 marvellosity wrote:On May 20 2013 22:39 JarJarDrinks wrote:
All caught up.
So BH scumslipped? I'm shocked. /end sarcasm
FWIW, I don't it's unreasonable to think that DP is bussing here. He's trying to gain town cred for a lynch that almost happened yesterday. If they thought that BH was most likely gonna get lynched or vigged, it'd be a pretty good scum play IMO.
I'm not saying I definately think it's true, but DP "catching" BH in scumslip when there are already several people suspecting BH doesn't make me think DP is any more likely to be town. Why on earth would you put forward the theory that DP is bussing? There's zero indication in your filter thus far that you think DP is suspicious. Well for starters I've been trying to push for a BH lynch all game. But DP still has me as a top scumread despite basically saying that he's 100% sure BH is scum. He earlier accused me of being a scummie that's too attached to my badwagon. You would think he'd back off me a bit since he supposedly believes that the guy I've been bandwagoning is scum.
Another reminder that he has been on BH 24/7.
On May 20 2013 23:13 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2013 23:05 marvellosity wrote:On May 20 2013 22:56 JarJarDrinks wrote:On May 20 2013 22:46 marvellosity wrote:On May 20 2013 22:39 JarJarDrinks wrote:
All caught up.
So BH scumslipped? I'm shocked. /end sarcasm
FWIW, I don't it's unreasonable to think that DP is bussing here. He's trying to gain town cred for a lynch that almost happened yesterday. If they thought that BH was most likely gonna get lynched or vigged, it'd be a pretty good scum play IMO.
I'm not saying I definately think it's true, but DP "catching" BH in scumslip when there are already several people suspecting BH doesn't make me think DP is any more likely to be town. Why on earth would you put forward the theory that DP is bussing? There's zero indication in your filter thus far that you think DP is suspicious. Well for starters I've been trying to push for a BH lynch all game. But DP still has me as a top scumread despite basically saying that he's 100% sure BH is scum. He earlier accused me of being a scummie that's too attached to my badwagon. You would think he'd back off me a bit since he supposedly believes that the guy I've been bandwagoning is scum. So if DP is potentially mafia bussing BH, same could be true of you on Day 1, right? Like "gosh darnit, everyone believes the claim, but I still think he's mafia!" Looks good if BH later flips mafia, right? I'm not saying that I should be treated as a confirmed townie or anything. But I think I should get some town cred for being the first person to call him out.
On May 20 2013 23:46 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2013 23:37 DarthPunk wrote:
[This guy knows BH is scum. There is no doubt. and he is trying to make me look bad or something when BH flips red. I don't give a fuck if it's association before the flip. Lynch this guy after BH. Lol, No that's what ur doing. I've been saying BH is scum ALL F'N GAME. You've been saying he was scum since he almost got lynched.
Those speak for themselves. Combine this with what Marv was saying about his attitude:
On May 22 2013 01:15 marvellosity wrote:
Because I'm omnipresent and I have lovely abs.
Thank you for asking me to explain something I said I couldn't explain very well. He's coming across as overly aggressive, it feels like he's working against town rather than with town. Do you understand what I mean by that?
Fighting for credit for bus-->not getting it-->aggressive/attitude
It reminds me of how Mattchew was caught in 'I Can't Believe it's Not Themed.' He and sciberbia drove for a lynch of a scum talismania, and scum Mattchew wanted to take credit for it when it was very much irrelevant who did what.
I mean, we haven't seen a flip yet, but this fits pretty snugly.
BH, JJ, one of Dandel/grush for scum....GK for 3p?
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On May 22 2013 09:11 s0Lstice wrote:Marv (and all)-- This is compelling: Show nested quote +On May 22 2013 01:40 marvellosity wrote:On May 22 2013 01:31 s0Lstice wrote:On May 22 2013 01:26 marvellosity wrote:On May 22 2013 01:24 s0Lstice wrote:On May 18 2013 22:21 JarJarDrinks wrote:On May 18 2013 22:11 marvellosity wrote:On May 18 2013 22:03 iamperfection wrote:
marv do you think jarjar would try to throw dirt on bh if bh is town and jarjar were scum? Maybe? I understand what you're getting at, but I'm ambivalent about it. Is he trying to imply that BH and I are scumbuddies? Is that so when BH flips red I don't look quite as good? If you think me and BH are both scum then help me bus him. ##vote: blazinghand(Sorry if I'm interpretting your post wrong iamp. But that's what I felt like u were saying) This post by JarJar is just so ballsy and fearless. I can't help but assign JJ mad townie points every time I read it. Definitely muddies the waters for me. Either that or it's hilariously honest. lol. That could explain the aggressiveness and anger. Hes spent the whole game building credit for the bus, but no credit is being assigned to him. Associations before the flip ftw Little tidbit for you to think about. The original question from iamp to me was saying this: "do you think jarjar would try to throw dirt on bh if bh is town and jarjar were scum?" What iamp was implying was this: how likely is it for a newer scumplayer to attack a known, stronger player? iamp is basically saying that JarJar looks townier for attacking a strong player. This isn't necessarily that obvious, but JarJar thinks that iamp is saying that Jarjar (mafia) would only attack BH if he were mafia. It could well mean implied guilt, when the original intention of iamp's was actually more of a mini-defence. I went back and read that exchange and I see what you are getting at. I think it's significant. Building on what I said here... Show nested quote +On May 22 2013 01:31 s0Lstice wrote:On May 22 2013 01:26 marvellosity wrote:On May 22 2013 01:24 s0Lstice wrote:On May 18 2013 22:21 JarJarDrinks wrote:On May 18 2013 22:11 marvellosity wrote:On May 18 2013 22:03 iamperfection wrote:
marv do you think jarjar would try to throw dirt on bh if bh is town and jarjar were scum? Maybe? I understand what you're getting at, but I'm ambivalent about it. Is he trying to imply that BH and I are scumbuddies? Is that so when BH flips red I don't look quite as good? If you think me and BH are both scum then help me bus him. ##vote: blazinghand(Sorry if I'm interpretting your post wrong iamp. But that's what I felt like u were saying) This post by JarJar is just so ballsy and fearless. I can't help but assign JJ mad townie points every time I read it. Definitely muddies the waters for me. Either that or it's hilariously honest. lol. That could explain the aggressiveness and anger. Hes spent the whole game building credit for the bus, but no credit is being assigned to him. Associations before the flip ftw ...I went to look at JJ's filter again to see if it looked like he was scrambling for credit for BH's flip, because I seemed to remember him fighting for it a lot. Show nested quote +On May 20 2013 22:39 JarJarDrinks wrote:
All caught up.
So BH scumslipped? I'm shocked. /end sarcasm
FWIW, I don't it's unreasonable to think that DP is bussing here. He's trying to gain town cred for a lynch that almost happened yesterday. If they thought that BH was most likely gonna get lynched or vigged, it'd be a pretty good scum play IMO.
I'm not saying I definately think it's true, but DP "catching" BH in scumslip when there are already several people suspecting BH doesn't make me think DP is any more likely to be town. Bolded is a passive reminder that he's been saying this all along. Also, talking about a DP bus play is just off the wall nuts imo. I see no reason why this thought would cross any town players mind at this juncture...but it could come from the mind of someone who has been thinking 'bus' all game. This is pointed out in the next quote. Show nested quote +On May 20 2013 22:56 JarJarDrinks wrote:On May 20 2013 22:46 marvellosity wrote:On May 20 2013 22:39 JarJarDrinks wrote:
All caught up.
So BH scumslipped? I'm shocked. /end sarcasm
FWIW, I don't it's unreasonable to think that DP is bussing here. He's trying to gain town cred for a lynch that almost happened yesterday. If they thought that BH was most likely gonna get lynched or vigged, it'd be a pretty good scum play IMO.
I'm not saying I definately think it's true, but DP "catching" BH in scumslip when there are already several people suspecting BH doesn't make me think DP is any more likely to be town. Why on earth would you put forward the theory that DP is bussing? There's zero indication in your filter thus far that you think DP is suspicious. Well for starters I've been trying to push for a BH lynch all game. But DP still has me as a top scumread despite basically saying that he's 100% sure BH is scum. He earlier accused me of being a scummie that's too attached to my badwagon. You would think he'd back off me a bit since he supposedly believes that the guy I've been bandwagoning is scum. Another reminder that he has been on BH 24/7. Show nested quote +On May 20 2013 23:13 JarJarDrinks wrote:On May 20 2013 23:05 marvellosity wrote:On May 20 2013 22:56 JarJarDrinks wrote:On May 20 2013 22:46 marvellosity wrote:On May 20 2013 22:39 JarJarDrinks wrote:
All caught up.
So BH scumslipped? I'm shocked. /end sarcasm
FWIW, I don't it's unreasonable to think that DP is bussing here. He's trying to gain town cred for a lynch that almost happened yesterday. If they thought that BH was most likely gonna get lynched or vigged, it'd be a pretty good scum play IMO.
I'm not saying I definately think it's true, but DP "catching" BH in scumslip when there are already several people suspecting BH doesn't make me think DP is any more likely to be town. Why on earth would you put forward the theory that DP is bussing? There's zero indication in your filter thus far that you think DP is suspicious. Well for starters I've been trying to push for a BH lynch all game. But DP still has me as a top scumread despite basically saying that he's 100% sure BH is scum. He earlier accused me of being a scummie that's too attached to my badwagon. You would think he'd back off me a bit since he supposedly believes that the guy I've been bandwagoning is scum. So if DP is potentially mafia bussing BH, same could be true of you on Day 1, right? Like "gosh darnit, everyone believes the claim, but I still think he's mafia!" Looks good if BH later flips mafia, right? I'm not saying that I should be treated as a confirmed townie or anything. But I think I should get some town cred for being the first person to call him out. Show nested quote +On May 20 2013 23:46 JarJarDrinks wrote:On May 20 2013 23:37 DarthPunk wrote:
[This guy knows BH is scum. There is no doubt. and he is trying to make me look bad or something when BH flips red. I don't give a fuck if it's association before the flip. Lynch this guy after BH. Lol, No that's what ur doing. I've been saying BH is scum ALL F'N GAME. You've been saying he was scum since he almost got lynched. Those speak for themselves. Combine this with what Marv was saying about his attitude: Show nested quote +On May 22 2013 01:15 marvellosity wrote:
Because I'm omnipresent and I have lovely abs.
Thank you for asking me to explain something I said I couldn't explain very well. He's coming across as overly aggressive, it feels like he's working against town rather than with town. Do you understand what I mean by that? Fighting for credit for bus-->not getting it-->aggressive/attitude It reminds me of how Mattchew was caught in 'I Can't Believe it's Not Themed.' He and sciberbia drove for a lynch of a scum talismania, and scum Mattchew wanted to take credit for it when it was very much irrelevant who did what. I mean, we haven't seen a flip yet, but this fits pretty snugly. BH, JJ, one of Dandel/grush for scum....GK for 3p?
Oh shit this reminds me I was supposed to do a JJD read. I'm curious as to whether grubbing for towncred that obviously really is a scumtell. Solstice good insight imo; inc JJD read.
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Spoilered Solstice's post above below for your reference.:
+ Show Spoiler +On May 22 2013 09:11 s0Lstice wrote:Marv (and all)-- This is compelling: Show nested quote +On May 22 2013 01:40 marvellosity wrote:On May 22 2013 01:31 s0Lstice wrote:On May 22 2013 01:26 marvellosity wrote:On May 22 2013 01:24 s0Lstice wrote:On May 18 2013 22:21 JarJarDrinks wrote:On May 18 2013 22:11 marvellosity wrote:On May 18 2013 22:03 iamperfection wrote:
marv do you think jarjar would try to throw dirt on bh if bh is town and jarjar were scum? Maybe? I understand what you're getting at, but I'm ambivalent about it. Is he trying to imply that BH and I are scumbuddies? Is that so when BH flips red I don't look quite as good? If you think me and BH are both scum then help me bus him. ##vote: blazinghand(Sorry if I'm interpretting your post wrong iamp. But that's what I felt like u were saying) This post by JarJar is just so ballsy and fearless. I can't help but assign JJ mad townie points every time I read it. Definitely muddies the waters for me. Either that or it's hilariously honest. lol. That could explain the aggressiveness and anger. Hes spent the whole game building credit for the bus, but no credit is being assigned to him. Associations before the flip ftw Little tidbit for you to think about. The original question from iamp to me was saying this: "do you think jarjar would try to throw dirt on bh if bh is town and jarjar were scum?" What iamp was implying was this: how likely is it for a newer scumplayer to attack a known, stronger player? iamp is basically saying that JarJar looks townier for attacking a strong player. This isn't necessarily that obvious, but JarJar thinks that iamp is saying that Jarjar (mafia) would only attack BH if he were mafia. It could well mean implied guilt, when the original intention of iamp's was actually more of a mini-defence. I went back and read that exchange and I see what you are getting at. I think it's significant. Building on what I said here... Show nested quote +On May 22 2013 01:31 s0Lstice wrote:On May 22 2013 01:26 marvellosity wrote:On May 22 2013 01:24 s0Lstice wrote:On May 18 2013 22:21 JarJarDrinks wrote:On May 18 2013 22:11 marvellosity wrote:On May 18 2013 22:03 iamperfection wrote:
marv do you think jarjar would try to throw dirt on bh if bh is town and jarjar were scum? Maybe? I understand what you're getting at, but I'm ambivalent about it. Is he trying to imply that BH and I are scumbuddies? Is that so when BH flips red I don't look quite as good? If you think me and BH are both scum then help me bus him. ##vote: blazinghand(Sorry if I'm interpretting your post wrong iamp. But that's what I felt like u were saying) This post by JarJar is just so ballsy and fearless. I can't help but assign JJ mad townie points every time I read it. Definitely muddies the waters for me. Either that or it's hilariously honest. lol. That could explain the aggressiveness and anger. Hes spent the whole game building credit for the bus, but no credit is being assigned to him. Associations before the flip ftw ...I went to look at JJ's filter again to see if it looked like he was scrambling for credit for BH's flip, because I seemed to remember him fighting for it a lot. Show nested quote +On May 20 2013 22:39 JarJarDrinks wrote:
All caught up.
So BH scumslipped? I'm shocked. /end sarcasm
FWIW, I don't it's unreasonable to think that DP is bussing here. He's trying to gain town cred for a lynch that almost happened yesterday. If they thought that BH was most likely gonna get lynched or vigged, it'd be a pretty good scum play IMO.
I'm not saying I definately think it's true, but DP "catching" BH in scumslip when there are already several people suspecting BH doesn't make me think DP is any more likely to be town. Bolded is a passive reminder that he's been saying this all along. Also, talking about a DP bus play is just off the wall nuts imo. I see no reason why this thought would cross any town players mind at this juncture...but it could come from the mind of someone who has been thinking 'bus' all game. This is pointed out in the next quote. Show nested quote +On May 20 2013 22:56 JarJarDrinks wrote:On May 20 2013 22:46 marvellosity wrote:On May 20 2013 22:39 JarJarDrinks wrote:
All caught up.
So BH scumslipped? I'm shocked. /end sarcasm
FWIW, I don't it's unreasonable to think that DP is bussing here. He's trying to gain town cred for a lynch that almost happened yesterday. If they thought that BH was most likely gonna get lynched or vigged, it'd be a pretty good scum play IMO.
I'm not saying I definately think it's true, but DP "catching" BH in scumslip when there are already several people suspecting BH doesn't make me think DP is any more likely to be town. Why on earth would you put forward the theory that DP is bussing? There's zero indication in your filter thus far that you think DP is suspicious. Well for starters I've been trying to push for a BH lynch all game. But DP still has me as a top scumread despite basically saying that he's 100% sure BH is scum. He earlier accused me of being a scummie that's too attached to my badwagon. You would think he'd back off me a bit since he supposedly believes that the guy I've been bandwagoning is scum. Another reminder that he has been on BH 24/7. Show nested quote +On May 20 2013 23:13 JarJarDrinks wrote:On May 20 2013 23:05 marvellosity wrote:On May 20 2013 22:56 JarJarDrinks wrote:On May 20 2013 22:46 marvellosity wrote:On May 20 2013 22:39 JarJarDrinks wrote:
All caught up.
So BH scumslipped? I'm shocked. /end sarcasm
FWIW, I don't it's unreasonable to think that DP is bussing here. He's trying to gain town cred for a lynch that almost happened yesterday. If they thought that BH was most likely gonna get lynched or vigged, it'd be a pretty good scum play IMO.
I'm not saying I definately think it's true, but DP "catching" BH in scumslip when there are already several people suspecting BH doesn't make me think DP is any more likely to be town. Why on earth would you put forward the theory that DP is bussing? There's zero indication in your filter thus far that you think DP is suspicious. Well for starters I've been trying to push for a BH lynch all game. But DP still has me as a top scumread despite basically saying that he's 100% sure BH is scum. He earlier accused me of being a scummie that's too attached to my badwagon. You would think he'd back off me a bit since he supposedly believes that the guy I've been bandwagoning is scum. So if DP is potentially mafia bussing BH, same could be true of you on Day 1, right? Like "gosh darnit, everyone believes the claim, but I still think he's mafia!" Looks good if BH later flips mafia, right? I'm not saying that I should be treated as a confirmed townie or anything. But I think I should get some town cred for being the first person to call him out. Show nested quote +On May 20 2013 23:46 JarJarDrinks wrote:On May 20 2013 23:37 DarthPunk wrote:
[This guy knows BH is scum. There is no doubt. and he is trying to make me look bad or something when BH flips red. I don't give a fuck if it's association before the flip. Lynch this guy after BH. Lol, No that's what ur doing. I've been saying BH is scum ALL F'N GAME. You've been saying he was scum since he almost got lynched. Those speak for themselves. Combine this with what Marv was saying about his attitude: Show nested quote +On May 22 2013 01:15 marvellosity wrote:
Because I'm omnipresent and I have lovely abs.
Thank you for asking me to explain something I said I couldn't explain very well. He's coming across as overly aggressive, it feels like he's working against town rather than with town. Do you understand what I mean by that? Fighting for credit for bus-->not getting it-->aggressive/attitude It reminds me of how Mattchew was caught in 'I Can't Believe it's Not Themed.' He and sciberbia drove for a lynch of a scum talismania, and scum Mattchew wanted to take credit for it when it was very much irrelevant who did what. I mean, we haven't seen a flip yet, but this fits pretty snugly. BH, JJ, one of Dandel/grush for scum....GK for 3p?
I'm in general agreement with this post, except for the 3p thing and that a scum Dandel is far more likely than a scum grush. I have my own thoughts on who might be 3p, but I'll save that for the night phase.
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JJD:
NMM XXXIX - Ok the game I was originally thinking of when talking to Marv was NMM LX. I watched this game too and paid more attention to it than LX; I remember one of the players (scum) with the stupidest fakeclaim ever but it won them the game anyway lol. JJD's role in this game was Medic.
Upon reading this (my meta reads are shit but marv asked) right off the bat I notice he is much less afraid here to engage other people in discussions and most importantly, questions. He is not the most prolific poster around but despite his filter not being absolutely massive is not afraid whatsoever to point out other people's lack of posting/lurking. Just overall a clear and obvious effort in this game from JJD.
I sort of see what marv was originally looking for me to look for...there is a sort of aggression that certainly isn't present in XXXIX but I don't get the same feels that marv is, I guess. What stands out to me here is most of his posts and cases are set up to be almost rhetorical; that is he doesn't often directly address anyone in the thread, he simply posts. It's almost seems like avoiding eye contact when you're guilty. He doesn't often directly question anyone or follow a specific line of questioning very long as opposed to in XXXIX.
/meta
Take the above with a grain of salt because again I am not confident in my meta reads very much. They could go either way and I wouldn't mind if someone else looked into it to see if it has any merit.
As for specifics on JJD this game, I've a;ready point out his useless reads post here:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=410972¤tpage=94#1863
His overall tunnely play against BH and grubbing for towncred I COULD see as town play, but I don't get then where he starts to suspect DP of bussing. I suppose not everyone sees things the way I do but I HIGHLY doubt in any way DPis anything but town the way he's been playing.
On May 20 2013 22:56 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2013 22:46 marvellosity wrote:On May 20 2013 22:39 JarJarDrinks wrote:
All caught up.
So BH scumslipped? I'm shocked. /end sarcasm
FWIW, I don't it's unreasonable to think that DP is bussing here. He's trying to gain town cred for a lynch that almost happened yesterday. If they thought that BH was most likely gonna get lynched or vigged, it'd be a pretty good scum play IMO.
I'm not saying I definately think it's true, but DP "catching" BH in scumslip when there are already several people suspecting BH doesn't make me think DP is any more likely to be town. Why on earth would you put forward the theory that DP is bussing? There's zero indication in your filter thus far that you think DP is suspicious. Well for starters I've been trying to push for a BH lynch all game. But DP still has me as a top scumread despite basically saying that he's 100% sure BH is scum. He earlier accused me of being a scummie that's too attached to my badwagon. You would think he'd back off me a bit since he supposedly believes that the guy I've been bandwagoning is scum.
Like...this post is almost like a scum pleading at town "But wait guys! I think BH is scum and look at all the scummy things he did! Why do you still think I'm scum? I'm with you guise!!"
On May 21 2013 01:24 JarJarDrinks wrote:OK, Check out how hard DarthPunk was defending Sputnik Show nested quote +On May 19 2013 23:53 DarthPunk wrote:On May 19 2013 23:49 iamperfection wrote:
We can kill sputnik today see if BH pulls his head out of his ass. Sputnik is a bad lynch. He played exactly like this in his last town game. JJD is known to lurk as scum and can be active as town. Better lurker lynch of the two IMO Show nested quote +On May 19 2013 23:58 DarthPunk wrote:On May 19 2013 23:56 iamperfection wrote:On May 19 2013 23:53 DarthPunk wrote:On May 19 2013 23:49 iamperfection wrote:
We can kill sputnik today see if BH pulls his head out of his ass. Sputnik is a bad lynch. He played exactly like this in his last town game. JJD is known to lurk as scum and can be active as town. Better lurker lynch of the two IMO Sputnik claimed in the thread he isn't trying to hunt scum OK. Go read his last game as blue, Read this game, and then realise he has played EXACTLY THIS WAY AS TOWN. I don't get why you are pushing this so hard. Show nested quote +On May 20 2013 00:49 DarthPunk wrote:On May 20 2013 00:00 Dandel Ion wrote:On May 19 2013 23:58 DarthPunk wrote:On May 19 2013 23:56 iamperfection wrote:On May 19 2013 23:53 DarthPunk wrote:On May 19 2013 23:49 iamperfection wrote:
We can kill sputnik today see if BH pulls his head out of his ass. Sputnik is a bad lynch. He played exactly like this in his last town game. JJD is known to lurk as scum and can be active as town. Better lurker lynch of the two IMO Sputnik claimed in the thread he isn't trying to hunt scum OK. Go read his last game as blue, Read this game, and then realise he has played EXACTLY THIS WAY AS TOWN. I don't get why you are pushing this so hard. Why would he not play exactly the same as scum too? It's not like it's hard footsteps to follow, eh? On May 19 2013 23:57 iamperfection wrote:
Also you guys use meta way to much OK. Look at it this way. JJD is KNOWN to lurk as scum and not lurk as town. It is more likely that if he is lurking he is scum. Sputnik is KNOWN to lurk as town and ???? as scum. Therefore there is no reason to believe sputnik lurking has anything at all to do with his alignment. Show nested quote +On May 20 2013 01:48 DarthPunk wrote:On May 20 2013 01:44 marvellosity wrote:
DP, I really don't like your meta comparison with sputnik. Sure he was inactive and got modkilled, but that's not really what I'm looking at at least.
In the game in the database, he made one, er, "trolly/fun" (? bad description maybe) post but then all of his subsequent posts were on the ball, talking about the game, calmly written. He asked about mayors running, he gave his preference (none :p) on the candidates, he gave his opinion.
In this game he's yapped around in some weird Les Mis character I guess and offered no opinions on anything, other than a silly little list post.
I think the use of meta here to clear his play is completely incorrect. it was purely activity based, and he was vig shot in that game not modkilled. JJD has done nothing also. If JJD does something I am fine with switching. Show nested quote +On May 20 2013 01:52 DarthPunk wrote:On May 20 2013 01:49 marvellosity wrote:
You can't meta activity on one previous game, because it doesn't support or deny anything. OK there are two useless players. Player 1 I expect nothing from Player 2 I expect something from Until player 2 meets my expectations I want to lynch him over player 1. So why the F does he end up voting sputnik???? Show nested quote +On May 20 2013 02:13 DarthPunk wrote:On May 20 2013 02:10 s0Lstice wrote:
Oy the claim
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All things considered, I'd be down with a sputnik lynch. I'm a little worried he rolled blue, and that's what his 'VT claim' was, but I have a history of being derpy around blues. Outside of that though there's nothing in his filter that I like and he's useless.
Don't want to lynch GK today, already said why.
Don't think I want to lynch JarJar....he is capable of being a perfectly active little townie from what I'm seeing in the game Marv was talking about. He says during the week he will do better, so I want to wait and see on him.
Need to read up on Dandel, that's what I'm gonna do now. This is a good point actually. Im fine lynching him later if he doesn't drastically improve. ##unvote:
##Vote Sputnik That explains why he'd take his vote off me. But it doesn't explain why he'd vote for the person that he had spent the previous 3 hours telling us was probably town. That was really the person he thought was the best lynch? I don't why people are reading DP as such a townie cause I'm definately not seeing it.
His case here and push on DP is interesting to say the least, but then he goes right back to BH and not a word at all about DP from then on where he magically flips onto me out of absolutely fucking nowhere.
I don't know...there are things in here I COULD see from a town perspective I guess? There are a whole bunch of other scummy things on top of it though and I think the scummy things win out. Especially since he appears to be pretty damn lurky long past his promised 'weekend lurking' time. A few posts a day is not enough.
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WoS, did you also look at JJ's scum game?
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On May 22 2013 10:00 s0Lstice wrote:
WoS, did you also look at JJ's scum game?
Narp but I can I suppose. The only reason I looked into the game I did was because marv asked me to; I'm generally not a meta kind of guy.
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I looked into his games, from that town game you pointed out I got the same general impressions. the biggest takeaway from his scum game was that he was super tunnely
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Ok yeah this one is Newbie XL, the one I was talking about where all three scum derped and voteswitched with 5 min to go at LYLO.
Already his filter is absolutely tiny in a game that has more pages than the previous one where he was town.
Hmm. Well at a quick glance he seems to be actually directly engaging people in conversation somewhat and asking questions though he never follows a line of questioning at all, just pops in and out and does random shit. Figures my earlier meta basis is likely wrong, though there is something to be said that he doesn't really push anyone at all this game....could be due to lurk, could be due to scum or both.
Either way he seems to be doing more this game than that earlier scum game?
I don't know fuck the meta.
Lol mathematically though at a glance (this is kinda funny, don't know if I'd vote him just based on this but still):
NMM XXXIX - TOWN - Filter is 4 pages, thread is 33 = 12%
NMM LX - SCUM - Filter is 2 pages, thread is 59 = 3%
This game---???? Filter is 2 pages, thread is 99 thus far = 2%
Which fits more?
(Obviously there are other factors like size of the game and how long the game was going for but JJD is well on track to fall FAR below his rate of posting as town)
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LOL that last bit is awesome if it ends up being true
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On May 22 2013 10:09 s0Lstice wrote:
I looked into his games, from that town game you pointed out I got the same general impressions. the biggest takeaway from his scum game was that he was super tunnely
lol I was looking into the style of his posting rather than looking closely at the content...you are absolutely right. He pushes jkirby for 2/3 of his filter without letting up or even really naming anyone else. You can see similarities in his push on BH here.
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Marv teach me how to read meta after this game or something.
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On May 22 2013 09:47 goodkarma wrote:Spoilered Solstice's post above below for your reference.: + Show Spoiler +On May 22 2013 09:11 s0Lstice wrote:Marv (and all)-- This is compelling: Show nested quote +On May 22 2013 01:40 marvellosity wrote:On May 22 2013 01:31 s0Lstice wrote:On May 22 2013 01:26 marvellosity wrote:On May 22 2013 01:24 s0Lstice wrote:On May 18 2013 22:21 JarJarDrinks wrote:On May 18 2013 22:11 marvellosity wrote:On May 18 2013 22:03 iamperfection wrote:
marv do you think jarjar would try to throw dirt on bh if bh is town and jarjar were scum? Maybe? I understand what you're getting at, but I'm ambivalent about it. Is he trying to imply that BH and I are scumbuddies? Is that so when BH flips red I don't look quite as good? If you think me and BH are both scum then help me bus him. ##vote: blazinghand(Sorry if I'm interpretting your post wrong iamp. But that's what I felt like u were saying) This post by JarJar is just so ballsy and fearless. I can't help but assign JJ mad townie points every time I read it. Definitely muddies the waters for me. Either that or it's hilariously honest. lol. That could explain the aggressiveness and anger. Hes spent the whole game building credit for the bus, but no credit is being assigned to him. Associations before the flip ftw Little tidbit for you to think about. The original question from iamp to me was saying this: "do you think jarjar would try to throw dirt on bh if bh is town and jarjar were scum?" What iamp was implying was this: how likely is it for a newer scumplayer to attack a known, stronger player? iamp is basically saying that JarJar looks townier for attacking a strong player. This isn't necessarily that obvious, but JarJar thinks that iamp is saying that Jarjar (mafia) would only attack BH if he were mafia. It could well mean implied guilt, when the original intention of iamp's was actually more of a mini-defence. I went back and read that exchange and I see what you are getting at. I think it's significant. Building on what I said here... Show nested quote +On May 22 2013 01:31 s0Lstice wrote:On May 22 2013 01:26 marvellosity wrote:On May 22 2013 01:24 s0Lstice wrote:On May 18 2013 22:21 JarJarDrinks wrote:On May 18 2013 22:11 marvellosity wrote:On May 18 2013 22:03 iamperfection wrote:
marv do you think jarjar would try to throw dirt on bh if bh is town and jarjar were scum? Maybe? I understand what you're getting at, but I'm ambivalent about it. Is he trying to imply that BH and I are scumbuddies? Is that so when BH flips red I don't look quite as good? If you think me and BH are both scum then help me bus him. ##vote: blazinghand(Sorry if I'm interpretting your post wrong iamp. But that's what I felt like u were saying) This post by JarJar is just so ballsy and fearless. I can't help but assign JJ mad townie points every time I read it. Definitely muddies the waters for me. Either that or it's hilariously honest. lol. That could explain the aggressiveness and anger. Hes spent the whole game building credit for the bus, but no credit is being assigned to him. Associations before the flip ftw ...I went to look at JJ's filter again to see if it looked like he was scrambling for credit for BH's flip, because I seemed to remember him fighting for it a lot. Show nested quote +On May 20 2013 22:39 JarJarDrinks wrote:
All caught up.
So BH scumslipped? I'm shocked. /end sarcasm
FWIW, I don't it's unreasonable to think that DP is bussing here. He's trying to gain town cred for a lynch that almost happened yesterday. If they thought that BH was most likely gonna get lynched or vigged, it'd be a pretty good scum play IMO.
I'm not saying I definately think it's true, but DP "catching" BH in scumslip when there are already several people suspecting BH doesn't make me think DP is any more likely to be town. Bolded is a passive reminder that he's been saying this all along. Also, talking about a DP bus play is just off the wall nuts imo. I see no reason why this thought would cross any town players mind at this juncture...but it could come from the mind of someone who has been thinking 'bus' all game. This is pointed out in the next quote. Show nested quote +On May 20 2013 22:56 JarJarDrinks wrote:On May 20 2013 22:46 marvellosity wrote:On May 20 2013 22:39 JarJarDrinks wrote:
All caught up.
So BH scumslipped? I'm shocked. /end sarcasm
FWIW, I don't it's unreasonable to think that DP is bussing here. He's trying to gain town cred for a lynch that almost happened yesterday. If they thought that BH was most likely gonna get lynched or vigged, it'd be a pretty good scum play IMO.
I'm not saying I definately think it's true, but DP "catching" BH in scumslip when there are already several people suspecting BH doesn't make me think DP is any more likely to be town. Why on earth would you put forward the theory that DP is bussing? There's zero indication in your filter thus far that you think DP is suspicious. Well for starters I've been trying to push for a BH lynch all game. But DP still has me as a top scumread despite basically saying that he's 100% sure BH is scum. He earlier accused me of being a scummie that's too attached to my badwagon. You would think he'd back off me a bit since he supposedly believes that the guy I've been bandwagoning is scum. Another reminder that he has been on BH 24/7. Show nested quote +On May 20 2013 23:13 JarJarDrinks wrote:On May 20 2013 23:05 marvellosity wrote:On May 20 2013 22:56 JarJarDrinks wrote:On May 20 2013 22:46 marvellosity wrote:On May 20 2013 22:39 JarJarDrinks wrote:
All caught up.
So BH scumslipped? I'm shocked. /end sarcasm
FWIW, I don't it's unreasonable to think that DP is bussing here. He's trying to gain town cred for a lynch that almost happened yesterday. If they thought that BH was most likely gonna get lynched or vigged, it'd be a pretty good scum play IMO.
I'm not saying I definately think it's true, but DP "catching" BH in scumslip when there are already several people suspecting BH doesn't make me think DP is any more likely to be town. Why on earth would you put forward the theory that DP is bussing? There's zero indication in your filter thus far that you think DP is suspicious. Well for starters I've been trying to push for a BH lynch all game. But DP still has me as a top scumread despite basically saying that he's 100% sure BH is scum. He earlier accused me of being a scummie that's too attached to my badwagon. You would think he'd back off me a bit since he supposedly believes that the guy I've been bandwagoning is scum. So if DP is potentially mafia bussing BH, same could be true of you on Day 1, right? Like "gosh darnit, everyone believes the claim, but I still think he's mafia!" Looks good if BH later flips mafia, right? I'm not saying that I should be treated as a confirmed townie or anything. But I think I should get some town cred for being the first person to call him out. Show nested quote +On May 20 2013 23:46 JarJarDrinks wrote:On May 20 2013 23:37 DarthPunk wrote:
[This guy knows BH is scum. There is no doubt. and he is trying to make me look bad or something when BH flips red. I don't give a fuck if it's association before the flip. Lynch this guy after BH. Lol, No that's what ur doing. I've been saying BH is scum ALL F'N GAME. You've been saying he was scum since he almost got lynched. Those speak for themselves. Combine this with what Marv was saying about his attitude: Show nested quote +On May 22 2013 01:15 marvellosity wrote:
Because I'm omnipresent and I have lovely abs.
Thank you for asking me to explain something I said I couldn't explain very well. He's coming across as overly aggressive, it feels like he's working against town rather than with town. Do you understand what I mean by that? Fighting for credit for bus-->not getting it-->aggressive/attitude It reminds me of how Mattchew was caught in 'I Can't Believe it's Not Themed.' He and sciberbia drove for a lynch of a scum talismania, and scum Mattchew wanted to take credit for it when it was very much irrelevant who did what. I mean, we haven't seen a flip yet, but this fits pretty snugly. BH, JJ, one of Dandel/grush for scum....GK for 3p? I'm in general agreement with this post, except for the 3p thing and that a scum Dandel is far more likely than a scum grush. I have my own thoughts on who might be 3p, but I'll save that for the night phase.
I'd like it if you could show the slightest interest in this game.
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On May 22 2013 09:47 goodkarma wrote:
I'm in general agreement with this post, except for the 3p thing and that a scum Dandel is far more likely than a scum grush. I have my own thoughts on who might be 3p, but I'll save that for the night phase.
Why wait? why not just say so now
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On May 22 2013 10:36 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2013 09:47 goodkarma wrote:Spoilered Solstice's post above below for your reference.: + Show Spoiler +On May 22 2013 09:11 s0Lstice wrote:Marv (and all)-- This is compelling: Show nested quote +On May 22 2013 01:40 marvellosity wrote:On May 22 2013 01:31 s0Lstice wrote:On May 22 2013 01:26 marvellosity wrote:On May 22 2013 01:24 s0Lstice wrote:On May 18 2013 22:21 JarJarDrinks wrote:On May 18 2013 22:11 marvellosity wrote:On May 18 2013 22:03 iamperfection wrote:
marv do you think jarjar would try to throw dirt on bh if bh is town and jarjar were scum? Maybe? I understand what you're getting at, but I'm ambivalent about it. Is he trying to imply that BH and I are scumbuddies? Is that so when BH flips red I don't look quite as good? If you think me and BH are both scum then help me bus him. ##vote: blazinghand(Sorry if I'm interpretting your post wrong iamp. But that's what I felt like u were saying) This post by JarJar is just so ballsy and fearless. I can't help but assign JJ mad townie points every time I read it. Definitely muddies the waters for me. Either that or it's hilariously honest. lol. That could explain the aggressiveness and anger. Hes spent the whole game building credit for the bus, but no credit is being assigned to him. Associations before the flip ftw Little tidbit for you to think about. The original question from iamp to me was saying this: "do you think jarjar would try to throw dirt on bh if bh is town and jarjar were scum?" What iamp was implying was this: how likely is it for a newer scumplayer to attack a known, stronger player? iamp is basically saying that JarJar looks townier for attacking a strong player. This isn't necessarily that obvious, but JarJar thinks that iamp is saying that Jarjar (mafia) would only attack BH if he were mafia. It could well mean implied guilt, when the original intention of iamp's was actually more of a mini-defence. I went back and read that exchange and I see what you are getting at. I think it's significant. Building on what I said here... Show nested quote +On May 22 2013 01:31 s0Lstice wrote:On May 22 2013 01:26 marvellosity wrote:On May 22 2013 01:24 s0Lstice wrote:On May 18 2013 22:21 JarJarDrinks wrote:On May 18 2013 22:11 marvellosity wrote:On May 18 2013 22:03 iamperfection wrote:
marv do you think jarjar would try to throw dirt on bh if bh is town and jarjar were scum? Maybe? I understand what you're getting at, but I'm ambivalent about it. Is he trying to imply that BH and I are scumbuddies? Is that so when BH flips red I don't look quite as good? If you think me and BH are both scum then help me bus him. ##vote: blazinghand(Sorry if I'm interpretting your post wrong iamp. But that's what I felt like u were saying) This post by JarJar is just so ballsy and fearless. I can't help but assign JJ mad townie points every time I read it. Definitely muddies the waters for me. Either that or it's hilariously honest. lol. That could explain the aggressiveness and anger. Hes spent the whole game building credit for the bus, but no credit is being assigned to him. Associations before the flip ftw ...I went to look at JJ's filter again to see if it looked like he was scrambling for credit for BH's flip, because I seemed to remember him fighting for it a lot. Show nested quote +On May 20 2013 22:39 JarJarDrinks wrote:
All caught up.
So BH scumslipped? I'm shocked. /end sarcasm
FWIW, I don't it's unreasonable to think that DP is bussing here. He's trying to gain town cred for a lynch that almost happened yesterday. If they thought that BH was most likely gonna get lynched or vigged, it'd be a pretty good scum play IMO.
I'm not saying I definately think it's true, but DP "catching" BH in scumslip when there are already several people suspecting BH doesn't make me think DP is any more likely to be town. Bolded is a passive reminder that he's been saying this all along. Also, talking about a DP bus play is just off the wall nuts imo. I see no reason why this thought would cross any town players mind at this juncture...but it could come from the mind of someone who has been thinking 'bus' all game. This is pointed out in the next quote. Show nested quote +On May 20 2013 22:56 JarJarDrinks wrote:On May 20 2013 22:46 marvellosity wrote:On May 20 2013 22:39 JarJarDrinks wrote:
All caught up.
So BH scumslipped? I'm shocked. /end sarcasm
FWIW, I don't it's unreasonable to think that DP is bussing here. He's trying to gain town cred for a lynch that almost happened yesterday. If they thought that BH was most likely gonna get lynched or vigged, it'd be a pretty good scum play IMO.
I'm not saying I definately think it's true, but DP "catching" BH in scumslip when there are already several people suspecting BH doesn't make me think DP is any more likely to be town. Why on earth would you put forward the theory that DP is bussing? There's zero indication in your filter thus far that you think DP is suspicious. Well for starters I've been trying to push for a BH lynch all game. But DP still has me as a top scumread despite basically saying that he's 100% sure BH is scum. He earlier accused me of being a scummie that's too attached to my badwagon. You would think he'd back off me a bit since he supposedly believes that the guy I've been bandwagoning is scum. Another reminder that he has been on BH 24/7. Show nested quote +On May 20 2013 23:13 JarJarDrinks wrote:On May 20 2013 23:05 marvellosity wrote:On May 20 2013 22:56 JarJarDrinks wrote:On May 20 2013 22:46 marvellosity wrote:On May 20 2013 22:39 JarJarDrinks wrote:
All caught up.
So BH scumslipped? I'm shocked. /end sarcasm
FWIW, I don't it's unreasonable to think that DP is bussing here. He's trying to gain town cred for a lynch that almost happened yesterday. If they thought that BH was most likely gonna get lynched or vigged, it'd be a pretty good scum play IMO.
I'm not saying I definately think it's true, but DP "catching" BH in scumslip when there are already several people suspecting BH doesn't make me think DP is any more likely to be town. Why on earth would you put forward the theory that DP is bussing? There's zero indication in your filter thus far that you think DP is suspicious. Well for starters I've been trying to push for a BH lynch all game. But DP still has me as a top scumread despite basically saying that he's 100% sure BH is scum. He earlier accused me of being a scummie that's too attached to my badwagon. You would think he'd back off me a bit since he supposedly believes that the guy I've been bandwagoning is scum. So if DP is potentially mafia bussing BH, same could be true of you on Day 1, right? Like "gosh darnit, everyone believes the claim, but I still think he's mafia!" Looks good if BH later flips mafia, right? I'm not saying that I should be treated as a confirmed townie or anything. But I think I should get some town cred for being the first person to call him out. Show nested quote +On May 20 2013 23:46 JarJarDrinks wrote:On May 20 2013 23:37 DarthPunk wrote:
[This guy knows BH is scum. There is no doubt. and he is trying to make me look bad or something when BH flips red. I don't give a fuck if it's association before the flip. Lynch this guy after BH. Lol, No that's what ur doing. I've been saying BH is scum ALL F'N GAME. You've been saying he was scum since he almost got lynched. Those speak for themselves. Combine this with what Marv was saying about his attitude: Show nested quote +On May 22 2013 01:15 marvellosity wrote:
Because I'm omnipresent and I have lovely abs.
Thank you for asking me to explain something I said I couldn't explain very well. He's coming across as overly aggressive, it feels like he's working against town rather than with town. Do you understand what I mean by that? Fighting for credit for bus-->not getting it-->aggressive/attitude It reminds me of how Mattchew was caught in 'I Can't Believe it's Not Themed.' He and sciberbia drove for a lynch of a scum talismania, and scum Mattchew wanted to take credit for it when it was very much irrelevant who did what. I mean, we haven't seen a flip yet, but this fits pretty snugly. BH, JJ, one of Dandel/grush for scum....GK for 3p? I'm in general agreement with this post, except for the 3p thing and that a scum Dandel is far more likely than a scum grush. I have my own thoughts on who might be 3p, but I'll save that for the night phase. I'd like it if you could show the slightest interest in this game.
This sentiment should also extend to grush
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