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Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 22 2013 03:04 GMT
#2001
On May 22 2013 11:44 Stutters695 wrote:
Thoughts on my interactions with BH, go.

Hell thoughts on anything would be super swell.

Ebwop: YAMATO THIS IS AT YOU
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 22 2013 03:24 GMT
#2002
On May 22 2013 11:44 JarJarDrinks wrote:
I think the reason everyone is on my case and accussing me of bussing BH is because they don't want to believe that a relative noob was able to ID scum so early in the game. I'd like to point y'all to the last game I played where I got lynched day 1 and called out 2/3 of the scum team in my goodbye post. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=407058&currentpage=14#279

Like what am I really being accused of?

The whole asking for credit for BH's flip? - The posts that s0Lstice quoted were all in reference to the same thing: DP calling me a top scumread. Most of those quotes were in the same exchange w/ marv.

As for misinterpreting iamps post: Marv, you admitted that he wasn't very clear in his meaning. You really don't believe I could have jumped to that conclusion based on his wording? I even put a disclaimer @ the end of my post that I wasn't sure if that was what he meant.


Calling out scum in a newbie game really doesn't mean much, and I guarantee you no one cares that a relative noob might be scum. Your play has pretty much been picking an inconsistency in someone's play and then tunneling them without weighing in on any issue in the game.

You've provided excuses to explain your inactivity yet since the week has started your posting hasn't improved and you've still stuck to your talking points.

If you want to establish yourself as town put yourself out there, go back and address points made against you instead of lumping it all together.

What do you make of my interactions with BH today for starters.


Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
May 22 2013 03:30 GMT
#2003
JJD, the only two mentions of GK in your filter are here:


On May 20 2013 04:51 JarJarDrinks wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote Spicydinosaur


Guess everyone is believing BHs claim. :\

I like a spicy lynch way better then a GK or sputnik lynch.

On May 22 2013 00:12 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 23:41 s0Lstice wrote:
JarJar

I'm going through your filter right now, and unless I somehow missed it, I don't see a single reference to GK.

What's your read and why?
If I haven't mentioned him then nothing must have stood out to me as particularly scummy. I've liked alot of his reads (obviously not his scumread of me but I feel like it was a true read). The not reading his PM thing seems terrible but not really scummy. I think he's probably town.


The second one specifically in response to people noting you've made no reads on him.

I'd like to you to clarify: which of his reads have you liked?

Also, what do you think of this case against him?: (link)

Waiting until I've been lynched to reply to this is super lame btw so reply quickly
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Spicydinosaur
Profile Joined April 2013
United States382 Posts
May 22 2013 03:37 GMT
#2004
No response gk? See this is what im talking about with your popping in and out.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 22 2013 03:38 GMT
#2005
On May 22 2013 11:48 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 11:39 goodkarma wrote:
On May 22 2013 11:34 Spicydinosaur wrote:
On May 22 2013 11:24 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 22 2013 10:59 Spicydinosaur wrote:
With the focus on BH today, I feel a lot of players are taking the safe path today by not posting much and coasting to the vote. Very scummy.


Spicydino is absolutely correct. If my lynch is a sure thing, then so be it-- but let's not be silent, let's use our time. I will be a confirmed town player in like 20 hours, but that doesn't mean we can't do anything beforehand.

you seem to agree with my read on GK. what do you think of my most recent case on him?


I'm not a huge fan of meta arguments by themselves. If there are meta arguments + substantive claims in the current game then I could go along with it. I think GK is scummy as fuck but for different reasons.


Care to elaborate on said different reasons?


Not checking your role pm, your popping in and out of the thread and the frequency of your posts is troubling, especially today. Your read on me was garbage, as well as your read on stutters. Your unwillingness to tell us your view on the 3P seems like a stall. Lastly, Rayne was mostly focused on you D1 and now he's dead. All this adds up to you being scummy. '


Can you explain how the Rayne shot makes GK scummier to you? Obviously this is speculation but there were better shots for scum to take if it was a scum vig on Rayne. It's almost 100% certain scum killed iamp as they wouldn't want a confirmed town who is a strong player around another day. If he has kp that suggests a 3p read over scum.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
May 22 2013 03:39 GMT
#2006
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
May 22 2013 03:40 GMT
#2007
okay that's in the wrong thread ignore that
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
May 22 2013 03:48 GMT
#2008
is anyone around
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
May 22 2013 03:49 GMT
#2009
On May 22 2013 12:48 Blazinghand wrote:
is anyone around

##lynch blazinghand
Writer@WriterYamato
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 22 2013 03:49 GMT
#2010
BH can you give me a rundown on what you see in WoS. It doesn't have to be super in depth but when I did a skim of his filter it really didn't seem that bad.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 22 2013 03:50 GMT
#2011
Yamato answer my question at the top of the page please. Why aren't you being your usual headstrong self?
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
May 22 2013 03:51 GMT
#2012
On May 22 2013 12:50 Stutters695 wrote:
Yamato answer my question at the top of the page please. Why aren't you being your usual headstrong self?

I'm lazy today.

I think BH looks a little better right now, but I don't know how much I really feel like moving the lynch off him, or if I even could at this point.
Writer@WriterYamato
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 22 2013 03:51 GMT
#2013
BH I'll be here until like 2 est or so, seems like most people give no shit about this game though.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
May 22 2013 03:52 GMT
#2014
On May 22 2013 12:51 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 12:50 Stutters695 wrote:
Yamato answer my question at the top of the page please. Why aren't you being your usual headstrong self?

I'm lazy today.

I think BH looks a little better right now, but I don't know how much I really feel like moving the lynch off him, or if I even could at this point.


It's plurality. If you think I'm scum, so be it, let's work together until I flip. But by god, if you think I'm town, get your vote off me.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
May 22 2013 03:53 GMT
#2015
On May 22 2013 12:52 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 12:51 yamato77 wrote:
On May 22 2013 12:50 Stutters695 wrote:
Yamato answer my question at the top of the page please. Why aren't you being your usual headstrong self?

I'm lazy today.

I think BH looks a little better right now, but I don't know how much I really feel like moving the lynch off him, or if I even could at this point.


It's plurality. If you think I'm scum, so be it, let's work together until I flip. But by god, if you think I'm town, get your vote off me.

I don't know what you are. If you're scum you're doing a good job fooling me so far, but I can't tell.
Writer@WriterYamato
Spicydinosaur
Profile Joined April 2013
United States382 Posts
May 22 2013 03:54 GMT
#2016
On May 22 2013 12:38 Stutters695 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 11:48 Spicydinosaur wrote:
On May 22 2013 11:39 goodkarma wrote:
On May 22 2013 11:34 Spicydinosaur wrote:
On May 22 2013 11:24 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 22 2013 10:59 Spicydinosaur wrote:
With the focus on BH today, I feel a lot of players are taking the safe path today by not posting much and coasting to the vote. Very scummy.


Spicydino is absolutely correct. If my lynch is a sure thing, then so be it-- but let's not be silent, let's use our time. I will be a confirmed town player in like 20 hours, but that doesn't mean we can't do anything beforehand.

you seem to agree with my read on GK. what do you think of my most recent case on him?


I'm not a huge fan of meta arguments by themselves. If there are meta arguments + substantive claims in the current game then I could go along with it. I think GK is scummy as fuck but for different reasons.


Care to elaborate on said different reasons?


Not checking your role pm, your popping in and out of the thread and the frequency of your posts is troubling, especially today. Your read on me was garbage, as well as your read on stutters. Your unwillingness to tell us your view on the 3P seems like a stall. Lastly, Rayne was mostly focused on you D1 and now he's dead. All this adds up to you being scummy. '


Can you explain how the Rayne shot makes GK scummier to you? Obviously this is speculation but there were better shots for scum to take if it was a scum vig on Rayne. It's almost 100% certain scum killed iamp as they wouldn't want a confirmed town who is a strong player around another day. If he has kp that suggests a 3p read over scum.


I think GK can be either mafia or 3p. So when I talked about him being scum that meant anti-town. In the future ill differentiate more so no confusion. But yeah if there is a 3p, my money right now is on GK. Rayne wasn't seen as a uber townie so it leaves a few theories. 1. Mafia vig shot b/c they figured marv and the other more likely townies could have medics on them. 2. Town vig who really fucked up. 3. 3p killer randoming. 4. 3p killer killed because rayne was getting onto them.

Like i said before, given rayne's postings D1, it would make sense for a 3p GK to take him out.
Spicydinosaur
Profile Joined April 2013
United States382 Posts
May 22 2013 03:57 GMT
#2017
EBWOP: The rayne shot making GK scummier is more of a thinking out loud rather than an assertive argument. Just added it on cause of my feeling.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
May 22 2013 03:57 GMT
#2018
On May 22 2013 12:49 Stutters695 wrote:
BH can you give me a rundown on what you see in WoS. It doesn't have to be super in depth but when I did a skim of his filter it really didn't seem that bad.


Sure! part of it is this post here (link) which to me looks like scum angling to be ABLE to place a vote on a potential wagon, but not willing to actually lay down his cards. Also, his interactions with me today have struck me as quite "off". I'm not sure why he seems so keen on attacking me for ignoring him when I haven't been ignoring him, or trying to make me look bad when there's no realistic way I'm not getting lynched. Being afk from the thread because you're bored is one thing-- showing up in the thread and posting without trying to contribute on anything other than an essentially predetermined lynch is quite another.

Admittedly, he has recently interacted at GK. That being said, I don't like that he's pushing at and prodding GK without responding to my requests to look at the case I wrote, either. This all seems very off, very not like someone trying.

I get that this isn't the strongest of reads, but his wishywashiness D1 and his play today strike me as scum angling to blend in and look good rather than someone legitimately trying to find things out about the game.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
May 22 2013 04:00 GMT
#2019
eating dinner again brb
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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goodkarma
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1067 Posts
May 22 2013 04:03 GMT
#2020
On May 22 2013 12:37 Spicydinosaur wrote:
No response gk? See this is what im talking about with your popping in and out.


On May 22 2013 11:48 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 11:39 goodkarma wrote:
On May 22 2013 11:34 Spicydinosaur wrote:
On May 22 2013 11:24 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 22 2013 10:59 Spicydinosaur wrote:
With the focus on BH today, I feel a lot of players are taking the safe path today by not posting much and coasting to the vote. Very scummy.


Spicydino is absolutely correct. If my lynch is a sure thing, then so be it-- but let's not be silent, let's use our time. I will be a confirmed town player in like 20 hours, but that doesn't mean we can't do anything beforehand.

you seem to agree with my read on GK. what do you think of my most recent case on him?


I'm not a huge fan of meta arguments by themselves. If there are meta arguments + substantive claims in the current game then I could go along with it. I think GK is scummy as fuck but for different reasons.


Care to elaborate on said different reasons?


Not checking your role pm, your popping in and out of the thread and the frequency of your posts is troubling, especially today. Your read on me was garbage, as well as your read on stutters. Your unwillingness to tell us your view on the 3P seems like a stall. Lastly, Rayne was mostly focused on you D1 and now he's dead. All this adds up to you being scummy. '


Thanks for your quick response, but there really isn't much for me to address here. When you mention the role PM thing I'm assuming you're saying you think I was lying, which I've already addressed. My read on you had some very valid points. How is what I said about you garbage when you BLATANLY misrepresent your read on sputnik, and mis-speak who you're talking about on MULTIPLE occasions? At the very least, that is a CLEAR sign of a lack of investment in this game.

As for 3P stuff, BH is getting lynched today, and when I do present my case I would like to do it right. I'm not going to rush it because you're angwy. I probably should have just kept it to myself until I post it, as this kind of thing inevitably happens, but rest assured it will be out there long before it needs to be considered for next lynch.

As for this popping in and out thing, I don't respond to everything. Especially when arguements I've already replied to are similar to the ones being brought up now (such as stupid meta cases), or the answer to the questions are in my filter but people are too damned ignorant/lazy to look into it. And I may not be the most super-active guy in thread right now, but I'm comfortable with the direction of the game (outside of course this sentiment that I'm scum). Dandel and JJB should be lynched. I will be providing a bit more discussion on Dandel, but JJB has been discussed to death by both myself and others here in thread. And the 3P thing I'll get to during next night cycle.
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