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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25555 Posts
May 22 2013 04:12 GMT
#2021
GK please do so before i die so i can respond
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 22 2013 04:13 GMT
#2022
You might make me look like a fool for this BH (payback for LXI I guess if that's the case :p), but I'm really not as sold on you being scum as I was. This is just too easy and with the people who were so on you being scum all mia, everyone else hopping on the wagon i can't see a benefit to leaving Grush alive over y.

##unvote

I'm running into work now but I'll unvote when I get a chance.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
May 22 2013 04:14 GMT
#2023
On May 22 2013 13:03 goodkarma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 12:37 Spicydinosaur wrote:
No response gk? See this is what im talking about with your popping in and out.


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On May 22 2013 11:48 Spicydinosaur wrote:
On May 22 2013 11:39 goodkarma wrote:
On May 22 2013 11:34 Spicydinosaur wrote:
On May 22 2013 11:24 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 22 2013 10:59 Spicydinosaur wrote:
With the focus on BH today, I feel a lot of players are taking the safe path today by not posting much and coasting to the vote. Very scummy.


Spicydino is absolutely correct. If my lynch is a sure thing, then so be it-- but let's not be silent, let's use our time. I will be a confirmed town player in like 20 hours, but that doesn't mean we can't do anything beforehand.

you seem to agree with my read on GK. what do you think of my most recent case on him?


I'm not a huge fan of meta arguments by themselves. If there are meta arguments + substantive claims in the current game then I could go along with it. I think GK is scummy as fuck but for different reasons.


Care to elaborate on said different reasons?


Not checking your role pm, your popping in and out of the thread and the frequency of your posts is troubling, especially today. Your read on me was garbage, as well as your read on stutters. Your unwillingness to tell us your view on the 3P seems like a stall. Lastly, Rayne was mostly focused on you D1 and now he's dead. All this adds up to you being scummy. '


Thanks for your quick response, but there really isn't much for me to address here. When you mention the role PM thing I'm assuming you're saying you think I was lying, which I've already addressed. My read on you had some very valid points. How is what I said about you garbage when you BLATANLY misrepresent your read on sputnik, and mis-speak who you're talking about on MULTIPLE occasions? At the very least, that is a CLEAR sign of a lack of investment in this game.

As for 3P stuff, BH is getting lynched today, and when I do present my case I would like to do it right. I'm not going to rush it because you're angwy. I probably should have just kept it to myself until I post it, as this kind of thing inevitably happens, but rest assured it will be out there long before it needs to be considered for next lynch.

As for this popping in and out thing, I don't respond to everything. Especially when arguements I've already replied to are similar to the ones being brought up now (such as stupid meta cases), or the answer to the questions are in my filter but people are too damned ignorant/lazy to look into it. And I may not be the most super-active guy in thread right now, but I'm comfortable with the direction of the game (outside of course this sentiment that I'm scum). Dandel and JJB should be lynched. I will be providing a bit more discussion on Dandel, but JJB has been discussed to death by both myself and others here in thread. And the 3P thing I'll get to during next night cycle.


can we lynch this guy yet hes lived far too long
I come in for the scraps
Spicydinosaur
Profile Joined April 2013
United States382 Posts
May 22 2013 04:14 GMT
#2024
On May 22 2013 13:03 goodkarma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 12:37 Spicydinosaur wrote:
No response gk? See this is what im talking about with your popping in and out.


Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 11:48 Spicydinosaur wrote:
On May 22 2013 11:39 goodkarma wrote:
On May 22 2013 11:34 Spicydinosaur wrote:
On May 22 2013 11:24 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 22 2013 10:59 Spicydinosaur wrote:
With the focus on BH today, I feel a lot of players are taking the safe path today by not posting much and coasting to the vote. Very scummy.


Spicydino is absolutely correct. If my lynch is a sure thing, then so be it-- but let's not be silent, let's use our time. I will be a confirmed town player in like 20 hours, but that doesn't mean we can't do anything beforehand.

you seem to agree with my read on GK. what do you think of my most recent case on him?


I'm not a huge fan of meta arguments by themselves. If there are meta arguments + substantive claims in the current game then I could go along with it. I think GK is scummy as fuck but for different reasons.


Care to elaborate on said different reasons?


Not checking your role pm, your popping in and out of the thread and the frequency of your posts is troubling, especially today. Your read on me was garbage, as well as your read on stutters. Your unwillingness to tell us your view on the 3P seems like a stall. Lastly, Rayne was mostly focused on you D1 and now he's dead. All this adds up to you being scummy. '


Thanks for your quick response, but there really isn't much for me to address here. When you mention the role PM thing I'm assuming you're saying you think I was lying, which I've already addressed. My read on you had some very valid points. How is what I said about you garbage when you BLATANLY misrepresent your read on sputnik, and mis-speak who you're talking about on MULTIPLE occasions? At the very least, that is a CLEAR sign of a lack of investment in this game.

As for 3P stuff, BH is getting lynched today, and when I do present my case I would like to do it right. I'm not going to rush it because you're angwy. I probably should have just kept it to myself until I post it, as this kind of thing inevitably happens, but rest assured it will be out there long before it needs to be considered for next lynch.

As for this popping in and out thing, I don't respond to everything. Especially when arguements I've already replied to are similar to the ones being brought up now (such as stupid meta cases), or the answer to the questions are in my filter but people are too damned ignorant/lazy to look into it. And I may not be the most super-active guy in thread right now, but I'm comfortable with the direction of the game (outside of course this sentiment that I'm scum). Dandel and JJB should be lynched. I will be providing a bit more discussion on Dandel, but JJB has been discussed to death by both myself and others here in thread. And the 3P thing I'll get to during next night cycle.


Thank you for confirming you are scum. You aren't going to rush your analysis because I'm angry? First of all I'm not angry and for you to assume so is scummy. You are artificially creating an excuse to not give out information. You say that BH is going to be lynched but want to wait to give out more info... why? Why not try to find out if there is a 3p killer now and not in the next cycle.

Oh and my read on sputnik? dead on

At this point I'm more sure that GK is scum more than I am BH.

##vote: goodkarma
Spicydinosaur
Profile Joined April 2013
United States382 Posts
May 22 2013 04:20 GMT
#2025
Off to sleep now, Ill check on the thread in the morning.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
May 22 2013 04:20 GMT
#2026
yup just placed my vote too, wtf this is slowroll on BH's lynch.

##vote:goodkarma
I come in for the scraps
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
May 22 2013 04:21 GMT
#2027
Im going with scumreads instead of any stupid meta/setup guessing. Everyone in this game is a mason for all I care
I come in for the scraps
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
May 22 2013 04:25 GMT
#2028
On May 22 2013 12:24 Stutters695 wrote:

Calling out scum in a newbie game really doesn't mean much, and I guarantee you no one cares that a relative noob might be scum.
Well I mean, people keep trying to say I'm bussing BH. So just wanted to point it out incase that was part of the reason people were quick to think that.

What do you make of my interactions with BH today for starters.
IDK that's such a broad question. I guess I think it's wierd that you're suggesting not lynching him @ this point but I think that would be pretty ballsy for scum to do so not reading much into it. Is there something else I should be addressing?



On May 22 2013 12:30 Blazinghand wrote:
JJD, the only two mentions of GK in your filter are here:


Show nested quote +
On May 20 2013 04:51 JarJarDrinks wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote Spicydinosaur


Guess everyone is believing BHs claim. :\

I like a spicy lynch way better then a GK or sputnik lynch.

Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 00:12 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On May 21 2013 23:41 s0Lstice wrote:
JarJar

I'm going through your filter right now, and unless I somehow missed it, I don't see a single reference to GK.

What's your read and why?
If I haven't mentioned him then nothing must have stood out to me as particularly scummy. I've liked alot of his reads (obviously not his scumread of me but I feel like it was a true read). The not reading his PM thing seems terrible but not really scummy. I think he's probably town.


The second one specifically in response to people noting you've made no reads on him.

I'd like to you to clarify: which of his reads have you liked?

I liked his early read on how Vayne was acting exactly how he acted in the previous game when people started to jump on him for his bad day 1 play.

He's been on you and grush who are scumreads of mine

He ended up w/ his vote on spicy w/ me day 1 and has made cases against him.


Also, what do you think of this case against him?: (link)

It's totally a meta case. Nothing you mention that he did seems suspicious on it's own. And he didn't jump on on sputnik even though he could have w/o raising suspicion so you saying he was "trying to stay on the popular wagon" is false.


WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 22 2013 04:30 GMT
#2029
On May 22 2013 12:57 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 12:49 Stutters695 wrote:
BH can you give me a rundown on what you see in WoS. It doesn't have to be super in depth but when I did a skim of his filter it really didn't seem that bad.


Sure! part of it is this post here (link) which to me looks like scum angling to be ABLE to place a vote on a potential wagon, but not willing to actually lay down his cards. Also, his interactions with me today have struck me as quite "off". I'm not sure why he seems so keen on attacking me for ignoring him when I haven't been ignoring him, or trying to make me look bad when there's no realistic way I'm not getting lynched. Being afk from the thread because you're bored is one thing-- showing up in the thread and posting without trying to contribute on anything other than an essentially predetermined lynch is quite another.

Admittedly, he has recently interacted at GK. That being said, I don't like that he's pushing at and prodding GK without responding to my requests to look at the case I wrote, either. This all seems very off, very not like someone trying.

I get that this isn't the strongest of reads, but his wishywashiness D1 and his play today strike me as scum angling to blend in and look good rather than someone legitimately trying to find things out about the game.

At this point now I'm pretty sure you're scum and trying to piss me off. You are flat-out lying about my contributions in this thread and you say you haven't ignored me yet you didn't respond at all to my shutting down of your earlier post.
Lying BH = scum BH. You want to taunt me to place a vote on a wagon? Fine. Makes more sense than getting Lurker Ion lynched today, not that anyone would listen to me anyway.
##Unvote
##Vote: Blazinghand


When you respond to me and admit your lies in the above post, then we can talk. Until then, I'm continuing my look into GK.

twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25555 Posts
May 22 2013 04:31 GMT
#2030
On May 22 2013 13:30 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 12:57 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 22 2013 12:49 Stutters695 wrote:
BH can you give me a rundown on what you see in WoS. It doesn't have to be super in depth but when I did a skim of his filter it really didn't seem that bad.


Sure! part of it is this post here (link) which to me looks like scum angling to be ABLE to place a vote on a potential wagon, but not willing to actually lay down his cards. Also, his interactions with me today have struck me as quite "off". I'm not sure why he seems so keen on attacking me for ignoring him when I haven't been ignoring him, or trying to make me look bad when there's no realistic way I'm not getting lynched. Being afk from the thread because you're bored is one thing-- showing up in the thread and posting without trying to contribute on anything other than an essentially predetermined lynch is quite another.

Admittedly, he has recently interacted at GK. That being said, I don't like that he's pushing at and prodding GK without responding to my requests to look at the case I wrote, either. This all seems very off, very not like someone trying.

I get that this isn't the strongest of reads, but his wishywashiness D1 and his play today strike me as scum angling to blend in and look good rather than someone legitimately trying to find things out about the game.

At this point now I'm pretty sure you're scum and trying to piss me off. You are flat-out lying about my contributions in this thread and you say you haven't ignored me yet you didn't respond at all to my shutting down of your earlier post.
Lying BH = scum BH. You want to taunt me to place a vote on a wagon? Fine. Makes more sense than getting Lurker Ion lynched today, not that anyone would listen to me anyway.
##Unvote
##Vote: Blazinghand


When you respond to me and admit your lies in the above post, then we can talk. Until then, I'm continuing my look into GK.



Make sure during your look into GK you check out his meta!
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 22 2013 04:38 GMT
#2031
On May 22 2013 13:30 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 12:57 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 22 2013 12:49 Stutters695 wrote:
BH can you give me a rundown on what you see in WoS. It doesn't have to be super in depth but when I did a skim of his filter it really didn't seem that bad.


Sure! part of it is this post here (link) which to me looks like scum angling to be ABLE to place a vote on a potential wagon, but not willing to actually lay down his cards. Also, his interactions with me today have struck me as quite "off". I'm not sure why he seems so keen on attacking me for ignoring him when I haven't been ignoring him, or trying to make me look bad when there's no realistic way I'm not getting lynched. Being afk from the thread because you're bored is one thing-- showing up in the thread and posting without trying to contribute on anything other than an essentially predetermined lynch is quite another.

Admittedly, he has recently interacted at GK. That being said, I don't like that he's pushing at and prodding GK without responding to my requests to look at the case I wrote, either. This all seems very off, very not like someone trying.

I get that this isn't the strongest of reads, but his wishywashiness D1 and his play today strike me as scum angling to blend in and look good rather than someone legitimately trying to find things out about the game.

At this point now I'm pretty sure you're scum and trying to piss me off. You are flat-out lying about my contributions in this thread and you say you haven't ignored me yet you didn't respond at all to my shutting down of your earlier post.
Lying BH = scum BH. You want to taunt me to place a vote on a wagon? Fine. Makes more sense than getting Lurker Ion lynched today, not that anyone would listen to me anyway.
##Unvote
##Vote: Blazinghand


When you respond to me and admit your lies in the above post, then we can talk. Until then, I'm continuing my look into GK.



What? What in the hell do you see town in DI, please enlighten me.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25555 Posts
May 22 2013 04:38 GMT
#2032
Also, I definitely never taunted you, I had a scumread on you since D1. Deciding to vote me just as I'm beginning to convince poeple I'm town is a nice touch though. Not very convincing
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 22 2013 04:40 GMT
#2033
JJD: Do you think his reads are genuine, are they coming from a scum perspective. How has today influenced your read on him?
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 22 2013 04:42 GMT
#2034
On May 22 2013 13:38 Stutters695 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 13:30 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 22 2013 12:57 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 22 2013 12:49 Stutters695 wrote:
BH can you give me a rundown on what you see in WoS. It doesn't have to be super in depth but when I did a skim of his filter it really didn't seem that bad.


Sure! part of it is this post here (link) which to me looks like scum angling to be ABLE to place a vote on a potential wagon, but not willing to actually lay down his cards. Also, his interactions with me today have struck me as quite "off". I'm not sure why he seems so keen on attacking me for ignoring him when I haven't been ignoring him, or trying to make me look bad when there's no realistic way I'm not getting lynched. Being afk from the thread because you're bored is one thing-- showing up in the thread and posting without trying to contribute on anything other than an essentially predetermined lynch is quite another.

Admittedly, he has recently interacted at GK. That being said, I don't like that he's pushing at and prodding GK without responding to my requests to look at the case I wrote, either. This all seems very off, very not like someone trying.

I get that this isn't the strongest of reads, but his wishywashiness D1 and his play today strike me as scum angling to blend in and look good rather than someone legitimately trying to find things out about the game.

At this point now I'm pretty sure you're scum and trying to piss me off. You are flat-out lying about my contributions in this thread and you say you haven't ignored me yet you didn't respond at all to my shutting down of your earlier post.
Lying BH = scum BH. You want to taunt me to place a vote on a wagon? Fine. Makes more sense than getting Lurker Ion lynched today, not that anyone would listen to me anyway.
##Unvote
##Vote: Blazinghand


When you respond to me and admit your lies in the above post, then we can talk. Until then, I'm continuing my look into GK.



What? What in the hell do you see town in DI, please enlighten me.

What? When did I call DI town? He's been a scumread of mine for ages but he's lurking so fucking hard I can't get anything out of him. Would you prefer I leave my vote on him until deadline?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25555 Posts
May 22 2013 04:42 GMT
#2035
Also WoS, stutters asked me for my read on you and I gave it. I actually taked some info directly from things I've previously written, and assuming you've read my filter or any of my posts, nothing I've said has really been new...
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 22 2013 04:44 GMT
#2036
On May 22 2013 13:42 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 13:38 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 22 2013 13:30 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 22 2013 12:57 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 22 2013 12:49 Stutters695 wrote:
BH can you give me a rundown on what you see in WoS. It doesn't have to be super in depth but when I did a skim of his filter it really didn't seem that bad.


Sure! part of it is this post here (link) which to me looks like scum angling to be ABLE to place a vote on a potential wagon, but not willing to actually lay down his cards. Also, his interactions with me today have struck me as quite "off". I'm not sure why he seems so keen on attacking me for ignoring him when I haven't been ignoring him, or trying to make me look bad when there's no realistic way I'm not getting lynched. Being afk from the thread because you're bored is one thing-- showing up in the thread and posting without trying to contribute on anything other than an essentially predetermined lynch is quite another.

Admittedly, he has recently interacted at GK. That being said, I don't like that he's pushing at and prodding GK without responding to my requests to look at the case I wrote, either. This all seems very off, very not like someone trying.

I get that this isn't the strongest of reads, but his wishywashiness D1 and his play today strike me as scum angling to blend in and look good rather than someone legitimately trying to find things out about the game.

At this point now I'm pretty sure you're scum and trying to piss me off. You are flat-out lying about my contributions in this thread and you say you haven't ignored me yet you didn't respond at all to my shutting down of your earlier post.
Lying BH = scum BH. You want to taunt me to place a vote on a wagon? Fine. Makes more sense than getting Lurker Ion lynched today, not that anyone would listen to me anyway.
##Unvote
##Vote: Blazinghand


When you respond to me and admit your lies in the above post, then we can talk. Until then, I'm continuing my look into GK.



What? What in the hell do you see town in DI, please enlighten me.

What? When did I call DI town? He's been a scumread of mine for ages but he's lurking so fucking hard I can't get anything out of him. Would you prefer I leave my vote on him until deadline?

I want to understand why axing a contributing person who will inevitably give himself away if left alive is better than lynching someone who you think is scum and isn't doing shit.
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1832 Posts
May 22 2013 04:45 GMT
#2037
Pardon me, but what the fuck are you guys doing?

The slip+the reaction should be plenty. If you don't buy the slip, there has been nothing that BH has done in the past while (after dragging ass for over a day) that scum BH couldn't do.

I can't believe I have to be phone posting (I hate phone posting ) to say this.
ATOBTTR
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25555 Posts
May 22 2013 04:47 GMT
#2038
On May 22 2013 13:45 s0Lstice wrote:
Pardon me, but what the fuck are you guys doing?

The slip+the reaction should be plenty. If you don't buy the slip, there has been nothing that BH has done in the past while (after dragging ass for over a day) that scum BH couldn't do.

I can't believe I have to be phone posting (I hate phone posting ) to say this.


what specifically about my reactions after the scumslip don't you like? i'm not gonna remake the arguments why it's not invalid, but i'll definitely link you to them.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 22 2013 04:54 GMT
#2039
On May 22 2013 13:45 s0Lstice wrote:
Pardon me, but what the fuck are you guys doing?

The slip+the reaction should be plenty. If you don't buy the slip, there has been nothing that BH has done in the past while (after dragging ass for over a day) that scum BH couldn't do.

I can't believe I have to be phone posting (I hate phone posting ) to say this.

Not knowing mechanics=/a definite scum slip in a closed setup. It is probably a scum slip but again I'd prefer taking out someone who isn't contributing at all and seems scummy over someone who is going to be here and provide more to analyze. Quite frankly if Marv shows up in the morning, calls me retarded and tells me to go BH my vote will pop right back over because he knows BH way better, but I'd rather have a potential scum BH in LYLO than a toss up Grush or DI when one of them is almost certainly scum.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 22 2013 04:56 GMT
#2040
BH more than anything else I want your thoughts on DI (even if it's just agreeing with my points against him). I really don't like how little you've brought him up period.
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