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On May 22 2013 14:26 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2013 13:44 Stutters695 wrote:On May 22 2013 13:42 WaveofShadow wrote:On May 22 2013 13:38 Stutters695 wrote:On May 22 2013 13:30 WaveofShadow wrote:On May 22 2013 12:57 Blazinghand wrote:On May 22 2013 12:49 Stutters695 wrote:
BH can you give me a rundown on what you see in WoS. It doesn't have to be super in depth but when I did a skim of his filter it really didn't seem that bad. Sure! part of it is this post here (link) which to me looks like scum angling to be ABLE to place a vote on a potential wagon, but not willing to actually lay down his cards. Also, his interactions with me today have struck me as quite "off". I'm not sure why he seems so keen on attacking me for ignoring him when I haven't been ignoring him, or trying to make me look bad when there's no realistic way I'm not getting lynched. Being afk from the thread because you're bored is one thing-- showing up in the thread and posting without trying to contribute on anything other than an essentially predetermined lynch is quite another. Admittedly, he has recently interacted at GK. That being said, I don't like that he's pushing at and prodding GK without responding to my requests to look at the case I wrote, either. This all seems very off, very not like someone trying. I get that this isn't the strongest of reads, but his wishywashiness D1 and his play today strike me as scum angling to blend in and look good rather than someone legitimately trying to find things out about the game. At this point now I'm pretty sure you're scum and trying to piss me off. You are flat-out lying about my contributions in this thread and you say you haven't ignored me yet you didn't respond at all to my shutting down of your earlier post. Lying BH = scum BH. You want to taunt me to place a vote on a wagon? Fine. Makes more sense than getting Lurker Ion lynched today, not that anyone would listen to me anyway.##Unvote
##Vote: BlazinghandWhen you respond to me and admit your lies in the above post, then we can talk. Until then, I'm continuing my look into GK. What? What in the hell do you see town in DI, please enlighten me. What? When did I call DI town? He's been a scumread of mine for ages but he's lurking so fucking hard I can't get anything out of him. Would you prefer I leave my vote on him until deadline? I want to understand why axing a contributing person who will inevitably give himself away if left alive is better than lynching someone who you think is scum and isn't doing shit. I also thought sputnik was scum and wasn't doing shit and look where that got us. Not that I was the person who convinced people to vote for him in the end. There is the possibility I am wrong about scum Dandel, but either way I am not going to be the person to get people to vote for him; I never am. People don't listen to me. Ever. Specifically due to BH's recent posting towards me I believe he is scum more so now than before. If he was really town I would expect him to attempt to actually enter into discourse with me rather than antagonize me and ignore my posts. If he decides to swallow his pride and admits to lying before I have to spell it out for him tomorrow then him and I can have a chat, but not until then. I refuse to shit up the thread angrily trying to prove to scum that he is scum. As for my read on GK I will admit I am fucking lost. It reminds me of trying to read Hopeless1nder in LXI (which I was ultimately wrong about), who did such ridiculously scummy things but then wound up town. Why would you withhold information from town at this point in the game? Why the FUCK would you not read your role PM? The meta cases (including BH's) make sense, what I can make of them anyway, + Show Spoiler +(though specifically BH admitting to using a case like this AS SCUM to show how GK is town just in his own example just makes me want to trust him even less. SO fucking WIFOM-y) and beyond what points I have brought up against GK in the past, I have nothing new to bring to the table. I would rather lynch BH than GK or Dandel today, however, and I am standing by that right now.
This is going to sound like a bit of a cop out but I'm too tired to read your points against BH right now. I'll check them in the morning and give thoughts with plenty of time before the lynch.
Here is where I think your comparison falls flat: Sputnik is unreadable to a certain extent with his play style. DI isn't. This is scummy and out of character for him.
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Blazinghand
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Hey stutters, when you get back let me know your thoughts on my latest GK post. I know he's on your scumdar, just wondering what your latest thoughts are.
Also as a heads-up, I won't be able to be here for the 2 hours leading up to the deadline, as I have lunch plans, so if you want some last words with me before the flip please show up early!
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Gonna have to wait until tomorrow but yeah I'll be up at like 9.
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On May 22 2013 15:25 Stutters695 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2013 14:26 WaveofShadow wrote:On May 22 2013 13:44 Stutters695 wrote:On May 22 2013 13:42 WaveofShadow wrote:On May 22 2013 13:38 Stutters695 wrote:On May 22 2013 13:30 WaveofShadow wrote:On May 22 2013 12:57 Blazinghand wrote:On May 22 2013 12:49 Stutters695 wrote:
BH can you give me a rundown on what you see in WoS. It doesn't have to be super in depth but when I did a skim of his filter it really didn't seem that bad. Sure! part of it is this post here (link) which to me looks like scum angling to be ABLE to place a vote on a potential wagon, but not willing to actually lay down his cards. Also, his interactions with me today have struck me as quite "off". I'm not sure why he seems so keen on attacking me for ignoring him when I haven't been ignoring him, or trying to make me look bad when there's no realistic way I'm not getting lynched. Being afk from the thread because you're bored is one thing-- showing up in the thread and posting without trying to contribute on anything other than an essentially predetermined lynch is quite another. Admittedly, he has recently interacted at GK. That being said, I don't like that he's pushing at and prodding GK without responding to my requests to look at the case I wrote, either. This all seems very off, very not like someone trying. I get that this isn't the strongest of reads, but his wishywashiness D1 and his play today strike me as scum angling to blend in and look good rather than someone legitimately trying to find things out about the game. At this point now I'm pretty sure you're scum and trying to piss me off. You are flat-out lying about my contributions in this thread and you say you haven't ignored me yet you didn't respond at all to my shutting down of your earlier post. Lying BH = scum BH. You want to taunt me to place a vote on a wagon? Fine. Makes more sense than getting Lurker Ion lynched today, not that anyone would listen to me anyway.##Unvote
##Vote: BlazinghandWhen you respond to me and admit your lies in the above post, then we can talk. Until then, I'm continuing my look into GK. What? What in the hell do you see town in DI, please enlighten me. What? When did I call DI town? He's been a scumread of mine for ages but he's lurking so fucking hard I can't get anything out of him. Would you prefer I leave my vote on him until deadline? I want to understand why axing a contributing person who will inevitably give himself away if left alive is better than lynching someone who you think is scum and isn't doing shit. I also thought sputnik was scum and wasn't doing shit and look where that got us. Not that I was the person who convinced people to vote for him in the end. There is the possibility I am wrong about scum Dandel, but either way I am not going to be the person to get people to vote for him; I never am. People don't listen to me. Ever. Specifically due to BH's recent posting towards me I believe he is scum more so now than before. If he was really town I would expect him to attempt to actually enter into discourse with me rather than antagonize me and ignore my posts. If he decides to swallow his pride and admits to lying before I have to spell it out for him tomorrow then him and I can have a chat, but not until then. I refuse to shit up the thread angrily trying to prove to scum that he is scum. As for my read on GK I will admit I am fucking lost. It reminds me of trying to read Hopeless1nder in LXI (which I was ultimately wrong about), who did such ridiculously scummy things but then wound up town. Why would you withhold information from town at this point in the game? Why the FUCK would you not read your role PM? The meta cases (including BH's) make sense, what I can make of them anyway, + Show Spoiler +(though specifically BH admitting to using a case like this AS SCUM to show how GK is town just in his own example just makes me want to trust him even less. SO fucking WIFOM-y) and beyond what points I have brought up against GK in the past, I have nothing new to bring to the table. I would rather lynch BH than GK or Dandel today, however, and I am standing by that right now. This is going to sound like a bit of a cop out but I'm too tired to read your points against BH right now. I'll check them in the morning and give thoughts with plenty of time before the lynch. Here is where I think your comparison falls flat: Sputnik is unreadable to a certain extent with his play style. DI isn't. This is scummy and out of character for him.
On May 20 2013 11:05 WaveofShadow wrote:Dandel Ion: The scumclaim....wtf? I guess not aligment indicative (ie scum would never be ballsy enough to do this, or maybe he as scum was counting on us to think that way, WIFOM, etc) I really can't comment much on the marv shitfest because I don't really get what the fuck they were arguing about. The shitfest itself looks like an attempt to get marv purposefully riled up but to what end I have no fucking clue. Again, null. I agree with his read of Vayne; I wish we could get more stuff like this out of him. Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 23:55 Dandel Ion wrote:On May 18 2013 23:48 WaveofShadow wrote:On May 18 2013 23:41 Dandel Ion wrote:
Point me to where exactly you've proven you're town. I haven't yet this game obviously, hence the people who think I'm scum. Don't you worry your pretty head dandel. So why are you angry people read you scum if you know you haven't shown your incredible greenness and town love. And that's what I'm saying about you FYI. You haven't let your kermit shine through. On May 18 2013 23:48 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh by the way, what was the point of that shitfest with marv a while back aside from just completely fucking with the thread? Wait, I need more reason than that? He says he suspects me a couple times but does nothing to push it other than this. As a matter of fact he does nothing to push fucking anybody. At all. Gives Grush a townread for the same reasons as me yet I draw all the heat for whatever fucking reason...ugh whatever. Thinks he catches GK in a scumslip and fails, then in the same post goes on a bunch of tangents... I have no fucking clue how to read this guy whatsoever.If I had to commit I'd call him scum just because he doesn't seem to give a fuck about the state of town whatsoever (and supposedly when town he actually does?) I have no clue about his meta so I wouldn't base any read of him on that, but I'd lynch him if he plays another day like he did D1.
Oh and hey, BH, whaddaya know, me too! I have a dentist appt. tomorrow so I won't be around from a few hours before until well after lynch, but I should be around before that during the day.
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we are still lynching blazinghand. Don't be stupid.
This part where blazinghand gives us reads and stuff works like this. If BH is town then we have some solid insight into what a confirmed town thought about the game. If he flips scum he at least has taken a position on everyone. Although it is probably useless due to WIFOM.
Blazinghand's contributions since he came into the thread have been meh. Like he makes a case on GK who is universally viewed as scummy. EZ to fake as scum.
Oh and don't call me bad BH as it is blatantly untrue.
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Blazinghand
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DP, you're not bad, you're just wrong about scumslips. When I flip town, promise me this: for the next full game played, any time you mention scumslips you will say "I was wrong, BH was right, there is no such thing as a scumslip"
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Blazinghand
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I know it's wifom! I just want you to promise
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On May 22 2013 15:51 Blazinghand wrote:
DP, you're not bad, you're just wrong about scumslips. When I flip town, promise me this: for the next full game played, any time you mention scumslips you will say "I was wrong, BH was right, there is no such thing as a scumslip"
FIne. Because you aren't flipping town. Is marv bad too for believing in scum slips?
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Blazinghand
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On May 22 2013 16:02 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2013 15:51 Blazinghand wrote:
DP, you're not bad, you're just wrong about scumslips. When I flip town, promise me this: for the next full game played, any time you mention scumslips you will say "I was wrong, BH was right, there is no such thing as a scumslip" FIne. Because you aren't flipping town. Is marv bad too for believing in scum slips?
You're not bad, you're just wrong.
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I'll go you one better. I will make that my sig for all of time. Because you aren't flipping town.
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Blazinghand
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On May 22 2013 16:03 DarthPunk wrote:
I'll go you one better. I will make that my sig for all of time. Because you aren't flipping town.
oh man
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Blazinghand
United States25552 Posts
Okay, another stipulation, when I flip town you can't call my play past D1 bad. You can call my D1 play bad, but my play N1 and D2 you have to say "Blazinghand did the best he could and played well"
In return for that and the signature promise, if I flip anything but the role I claim, I will change my signature to something or your choice for all time.
If, by some weird probability, you are scum this game (and this is almost certainly not true) then you don't have to change your signature.
/handshake
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On May 22 2013 16:15 Blazinghand wrote:
Okay, another stipulation, when I flip town you can't call my play past D1 bad. You can call my D1 play bad, but my play N1 and D2 you have to say "Blazinghand did the best he could and played well"
In return for that and the signature promise, if I flip anything but the role I claim, I will change my signature to something or your choice for all time.
If, by some weird probability, you are scum this game (and this is almost certainly not true) then you don't have to change your signature.
/handshake
/handshake
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shits gettin real in here, this will be the most anticipated flip ever
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bed time for me so ill update when im back
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11589 Posts
Anyone here want to converse about this game?
The game I want to play is: show me a case and I'll evaluate its strengths and weaknesses.
Perhaps I can update myself on the game in the process, as I've paid little attention to the goings on of this thread today.
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On May 22 2013 11:44 JarJarDrinks wrote:
I think the reason everyone is on my case and accussing me of bussing BH is because they don't want to believe that a relative noob was able to ID scum so early in the game.
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On May 22 2013 14:26 WaveofShadow wrote:
People don't listen to me. Ever.
Aww :<
On May 22 2013 15:49 DarthPunk wrote:
we are still lynching blazinghand. Don't be stupid.
This part where blazinghand gives us reads and stuff works like this. If BH is town then we have some solid insight into what a confirmed town thought about the game. If he flips scum he at least has taken a position on everyone. Although it is probably useless due to WIFOM.
Blazinghand's contributions since he came into the thread have been meh. Like he makes a case on GK who is universally viewed as scummy. EZ to fake as scum.
Oh and don't call me bad BH as it is blatantly untrue.
you're bad <3 (jk babygirl).
DP is right though in that we stay on target. The massive problem with BH's contributions is that they came too late. Almost 48 hours after his shitfest with DP! Too long. The issue with this is two-fold
1) it gives time to view how the thread sentiment is. e.g. continued attacks on dandel, my new attacks on GK and JJD, etc.
2) it means he only has to contribute for 24 hours instead of 48 or more
I'm also struggling to place 4 anti-town elements (which i presume we have, at least) without BH being one of them.
Also if BH flips town he said I was 100% town so yolo!
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Is there anything in particular you want me to read and respond to, Marv?
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United Kingdom36161 Posts
The funny thing is that I did start glazing over WoS's long rants. I guess that makes me a bad person 
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United Kingdom36161 Posts
On May 22 2013 18:48 yamato77 wrote:
Is there anything in particular you want me to read and respond to, Marv?
Not much I guess. I'd like you to be active in the night-phase regardless of the flip colour, if that's ok.
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