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On May 22 2013 23:56 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2013 23:54 Spicydinosaur wrote:On May 22 2013 23:44 Blazinghand wrote:On May 22 2013 23:30 Spicydinosaur wrote:On May 22 2013 23:17 Blazinghand wrote:
And to be real, time, effort, willingness to post are all limited resources. I'm probably one of the few people in TL Mafia who, when put into the position of being guaranteed as a mislynch, actually does work. Needless to say, today would have been a day without analysis or commentary if not for me. As far as you know, I'm scum jerking you around, but once I flip, you'll be like "he died for our sins... truly he was the best of us, and we let him down"
I'll be like the Jesus Christ of this game. Calling bs on the bolded part. If you didn't have your slip, there wouldn't have been a singular focus on anyone at the start of D2. You HAD to say something today because of the mess you started. I award you no brownie points for that. The mess I started? I didn't choose to "slip", it just happened, and I did my best to explain how it isn't a slip. The fact that people decided that based on this, they should vote me, is understandable. The fact that they decided that based on this, they should vote me and stop talking, is not. I mean, I guess it's totally understandable: people are lazy and dumb and mafia are good at imitating that kind of behavior. Even though I understand it, I don't condone it. Even during my tunnellest of tunnels, I try to still talk to people about other things. At this point you are going to get lynched since too many people are convinced you are scum. I suggest to just get as many reads off as you can as that is the best way to help town at this point. Dont' bother trying to do anything else as its a waste of time. No more self reflective posts, just reads. If you flip scum then we can just ignore it, but if you flip town, then we can possibly use it. Self reflective reads aren't useful for demonstrating I'm town, either. They're just there because that's what I like to post! It's always been clear ever since the "scumslip" that I was going to be lynched today. For whatever reason, the fact that I realized this immediately was scummy, but the point remains. I see no reason not to puff up my ego and fluff my feathers before I get lynched. What are you gonna do to stop me, vote me? hue
My point was that if you truly cared about this game and were truly town, you would stop posting shit like this. Why the antagonism at the end there... actually nvm, this conversation is going nowhere.
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I agree with your GK post for the most part. I'm curious though, do you feel like him being 3p is an option?
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Blazinghand
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On May 23 2013 00:25 Stutters695 wrote:
I agree with your GK post for the most part. I'm curious though, do you feel like him being 3p is an option?
It's definitely an option. There's no reason my meta read on him wouldn't apply to him being 3p. That being said, a lot of it depends on what his 3p style is. Some players play 3p a lot like they play town, since as 3p you can (and should) earnestly hunt scum. GK swaps his vote around and makes poopcases as scum because he has a lot of trouble pretending to catch scum. He compensates by voting quickly and moving from wagon to wagon.
Given that the meta read is in part based on his inability to fake hunting scum, and 3p doesn't fake hunt scum, but actually hunts scum, I think it's substantially more likely he's scum than 3p.
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Blazinghand
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Like, basically: it's an option, yes, but it doesn't fit the facts as well as him being scum does.
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Blazinghand
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On May 23 2013 00:25 Spicydinosaur wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2013 23:56 Blazinghand wrote:On May 22 2013 23:54 Spicydinosaur wrote:On May 22 2013 23:44 Blazinghand wrote:On May 22 2013 23:30 Spicydinosaur wrote:On May 22 2013 23:17 Blazinghand wrote:
And to be real, time, effort, willingness to post are all limited resources. I'm probably one of the few people in TL Mafia who, when put into the position of being guaranteed as a mislynch, actually does work. Needless to say, today would have been a day without analysis or commentary if not for me. As far as you know, I'm scum jerking you around, but once I flip, you'll be like "he died for our sins... truly he was the best of us, and we let him down"
I'll be like the Jesus Christ of this game. Calling bs on the bolded part. If you didn't have your slip, there wouldn't have been a singular focus on anyone at the start of D2. You HAD to say something today because of the mess you started. I award you no brownie points for that. The mess I started? I didn't choose to "slip", it just happened, and I did my best to explain how it isn't a slip. The fact that people decided that based on this, they should vote me, is understandable. The fact that they decided that based on this, they should vote me and stop talking, is not. I mean, I guess it's totally understandable: people are lazy and dumb and mafia are good at imitating that kind of behavior. Even though I understand it, I don't condone it. Even during my tunnellest of tunnels, I try to still talk to people about other things. At this point you are going to get lynched since too many people are convinced you are scum. I suggest to just get as many reads off as you can as that is the best way to help town at this point. Dont' bother trying to do anything else as its a waste of time. No more self reflective posts, just reads. If you flip scum then we can just ignore it, but if you flip town, then we can possibly use it. Self reflective reads aren't useful for demonstrating I'm town, either. They're just there because that's what I like to post! It's always been clear ever since the "scumslip" that I was going to be lynched today. For whatever reason, the fact that I realized this immediately was scummy, but the point remains. I see no reason not to puff up my ego and fluff my feathers before I get lynched. What are you gonna do to stop me, vote me? hue My point was that if you truly cared about this game and were truly town, you would stop posting shit like this. Why the antagonism at the end there... actually nvm, this conversation is going nowhere.
It's not antagonism, it's a JOKE. The "hue" at the end of it isn't me talking about colour, it's me giggling. The point is, I'm dead anyways, which means I alone here am free to express whatever thoughts come to mind.
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I'd say Spicy was antagonising BH more than the other way round :/
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On May 23 2013 00:31 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2013 00:25 Spicydinosaur wrote:On May 22 2013 23:56 Blazinghand wrote:On May 22 2013 23:54 Spicydinosaur wrote:On May 22 2013 23:44 Blazinghand wrote:On May 22 2013 23:30 Spicydinosaur wrote:On May 22 2013 23:17 Blazinghand wrote:
And to be real, time, effort, willingness to post are all limited resources. I'm probably one of the few people in TL Mafia who, when put into the position of being guaranteed as a mislynch, actually does work. Needless to say, today would have been a day without analysis or commentary if not for me. As far as you know, I'm scum jerking you around, but once I flip, you'll be like "he died for our sins... truly he was the best of us, and we let him down"
I'll be like the Jesus Christ of this game. Calling bs on the bolded part. If you didn't have your slip, there wouldn't have been a singular focus on anyone at the start of D2. You HAD to say something today because of the mess you started. I award you no brownie points for that. The mess I started? I didn't choose to "slip", it just happened, and I did my best to explain how it isn't a slip. The fact that people decided that based on this, they should vote me, is understandable. The fact that they decided that based on this, they should vote me and stop talking, is not. I mean, I guess it's totally understandable: people are lazy and dumb and mafia are good at imitating that kind of behavior. Even though I understand it, I don't condone it. Even during my tunnellest of tunnels, I try to still talk to people about other things. At this point you are going to get lynched since too many people are convinced you are scum. I suggest to just get as many reads off as you can as that is the best way to help town at this point. Dont' bother trying to do anything else as its a waste of time. No more self reflective posts, just reads. If you flip scum then we can just ignore it, but if you flip town, then we can possibly use it. Self reflective reads aren't useful for demonstrating I'm town, either. They're just there because that's what I like to post! It's always been clear ever since the "scumslip" that I was going to be lynched today. For whatever reason, the fact that I realized this immediately was scummy, but the point remains. I see no reason not to puff up my ego and fluff my feathers before I get lynched. What are you gonna do to stop me, vote me? hue My point was that if you truly cared about this game and were truly town, you would stop posting shit like this. Why the antagonism at the end there... actually nvm, this conversation is going nowhere. It's not antagonism, it's a JOKE. The "hue" at the end of it isn't me talking about colour, it's me giggling. The point is, I'm dead anyways, which means I alone here am free to express whatever thoughts come to mind.
Scumslip! Get him boys.
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On May 23 2013 00:33 marvellosity wrote:
I'd say Spicy was antagonising BH more than the other way round :/
Didn't meant for it to come off that way. Was just making a point of using his last hours constructively.
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Blazinghand
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Yeah Spicy isn't antagonizing me, he's trying to make me use my time wisely. He's one of the people who thinks I am town!
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Blazinghand
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Or rather, he's one of the people who would rather lynch GK first. Regardless, he's voting with me rather than against me, so he's allowed to boss me around a bit lol
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I'm more sure of GK being scum/3p than I am BH. That's why my vote is on him.
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Marv anything you want to discuss?
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Not particularly, just gonna poop my pants till deadline :D
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Blazinghand
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On May 22 2013 17:22 yamato77 wrote:
Anyone here want to converse about this game?
The game I want to play is: show me a case and I'll evaluate its strengths and weaknesses.
Perhaps I can update myself on the game in the process, as I've paid little attention to the goings on of this thread today.
* raises hand!*
Yamato, I'm renewing my request that you take a look at my GK case. About 10 hours before you offered to evaluate the strengths and weaknesses of the case, I specifically asked you to look at it, and although you've commented to me about ihop and other things you seem not to have noticed, in your zeal to converse about the game, that I want to converse with you about the game.
On May 22 2013 07:03 Blazinghand wrote:Yamato, I personally request this from you as well, since, as you admit, you've slowed down. I'd like you to weigh in on my GK case, specifically the meta component (since we're not talking about PM shenannnies) and let me know what you think of it. Show nested quote +On May 22 2013 06:46 VayneAuthority wrote:On May 22 2013 06:41 Blazinghand wrote:
And, I get it, maybe you think I'm scum, but at the very least if we're dead set on lynching me today we might as well discuss the next lynch, right? Pretend I'm town and talk with me, and if I flip scum if you want you can ignore it all, but I'm going to flip town and you're going to be very glad you did talk with me. I asked you what you thought about my reads a little while ago, could you go towards the end of my filter and tell me what you think? Absolutely.
I know you've been around, Yamato, but you haven't weighed in on my GK case. You can read it here: (link).
Your mentions of GK have been generally sparse. You called him "obviously town" during D1 (link), bringing up his high levels of effort (link). You give him a null meta read (link) which imo is incorrect, then call him town again (link), then call him town again then call him null again in the same post, then say you are unsure (link). You mention him a couple times in passing and imply he's not a good lynch (link) then you say we should leave BH alone and lynch GK (link). Then you criticize GK for sheeping (link) and call him and me a good lynch (link) without any explanation, then say you're on the fence about GK, again without any explanation (link). You then call GK a bad lynch without any explanation (link) ALL DURING DAY 1.
During N1 you say.. well I'm not really sure what you're saying here, but you say this On May 21 2013 03:36 yamato77 wrote:
I think that Dandel and GoodKarma are people to look at tomorrow. I've outlined Dandel already, so I'll explain my read on GK. While he explained his suspicions well, it's somewhat difficult to discern GK's true alignment. He seems to be sharply following thread sentiment. I can't reason which of his games he looks more like this game. Solstice made what I feel is a valid point in that he does seem to be continually defending his position, which is in line with my overview of his scum meta.
So yeah I don't know what your read on him is from that.
Then today you call him scummy and say he should be lynched after me (link).
So yeah I really have no idea whether or not you have a consistent read on GK (yet you seem to want to lynch him). You've ignored my direct requests to review the GK case, [i]despite being confused and trying to make a meta read on GK[/o] and despite asking the thread for cases to review.
Come on, man. Get your shit together.
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Read your GK case BH.
It's purely meta outside of the fact that he was in thread around the deadline. Many of the people who think GK is scum I think do so in part because of his meta. That includes me. I agree with the observations you made, I made the same ones when I looked for myself. So, for what it's worth, I agree with you on this....but as I clarified my position on him earlier to you, it should come as little surprise.
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On May 23 2013 01:31 s0Lstice wrote:
Read your GK case BH.
It's purely meta outside of the fact that he was in thread around the deadline. Many of the people who think GK is scum I think do so in part because of his meta. That includes me. I agree with the observations you made, I made the same ones when I looked for myself. So, for what it's worth, I agree with you on this....but as I clarified my position on him earlier to you, it should come as little surprise.
I agree with this man on the GK issue.
I will not apologize for waffling on Day 1. Shit happens.
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Blazinghand
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So you think GK is scum, and you agree with my case
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On May 23 2013 02:04 Blazinghand wrote:
So you think GK is scum, and you agree with my case
I do, hi im here if anyone wants to talk about plans for tomorrow if we arent switching to GK
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On May 23 2013 02:04 Blazinghand wrote:
So you think GK is scum, and you agree with my case
It's definitely not the first time a meta case was made on GK this game, so don't act like it's "your" case.
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Blazinghand
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On May 23 2013 02:09 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2013 02:04 Blazinghand wrote:
So you think GK is scum, and you agree with my case It's definitely not the first time a meta case was made on GK this game, so don't act like it's "your" case.
Yeah but the other meta cases were all bad, claiming to be a null read or claiming he's scum for the wrong reason.
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