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Stutters695
2610 Posts
On May 20 2013 09:17 raynpelikoneet wrote: because noone was here telling what to do other than me. where were you? I never am active on weekends. Sucks but it happens every game. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On May 20 2013 09:40 Stutters695 wrote: I never am active on weekends. Sucks but it happens every game. Or any other day of the week. Alright ladies and gents, kid's in bed, Game of Thrones is on but fuck that shit, I read the books so I already know what's gonna happen. I believe I said I was gonna do a read on Spicy at some point and since Dandel is such a hot topic atm I'll look into him as well. Anything anyone would like to discuss while I'm around? | ||
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iamperfection
United States9645 Posts
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
Stuff I want to comment on over the past few pages: Rayn speculating like crazy about NKs. One of those things I like to do but somehow I always get called out for it. Should I be calling him out? Vayne being so wrong with his mechanics assumptions is pretty hilar. Probably not alignment indicative and fits with his anti-TL style (that he's apparently trying to correct). As far as I'm concerned either BH or Marv or both or none are scum as of now; I didn't really follow that argument anyway. Dandel with the last second sheep. People seem to be going either way on this but when I look into him in a bit hopefully I'll know more. I have no fucking clue what this post means. On May 20 2013 08:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: Actually nobody was, but the lynch is 100% scum driven. rofl. and for what reasons. Alright inc filter diving. PREPARE THYSELVES | ||
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Spicydinosaur
United States382 Posts
On May 20 2013 10:41 WaveofShadow wrote: Oh yeah didn't mention the lynch. I am a little surprised he flipped town honestly but as others have said he was going to have to die at some point. Eliminating chaff D1 isn't the worst thing to happen. Why surprised? | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
Starts off game ok. Makes good points about Vayne's meta which I agree with; though again Vayne is attempting to change things. On May 18 2013 23:23 Spicydinosaur wrote: s0Lstice's filter comes up very scummy for me. He started off by posting about his meta and pointing out that he was never scum. I get them some people like to use a lot of meta to play but the fact that he has always been town is irrelevant as every new game could be the first time you get scum. He also throws some spam in a number of his posts like this: I've noticed that there is a lot of spam in many guy's post so this might not be such a big deal. The thing that really bugs me is this post: He keeps pushing this reliance on meta and I find it extremely scummy. He firsts points out that he has never rolled scum, then says that if you roll scum for the first time, you are going to have a bad time. His posts can be summed up in a nice simple sentence: I have never rolled scum and if I did I would be playing so much shittier that it would be obvious. His later posts seem to then abandon mention of meta and actually really focus on reading other players. He didn't jump on the vayne bandwagon like a lot of others did. I did like his read on goodkarma and did a good job of calling him out on his back and forth thoughts of jarjar. As of now I'd say he's not scum. I really dislike his meta play style but his subsequent posts have gotten better. He was using meta up until this point so not sure why he excludes himself here. Also the "I'm always not therefore I'm not scum" argument has been belaboured enough at this point. We're proud of our townstreaks, we think it might help people read into us. Yes it has no bearing on what we role in current/upcoming games whatever. I dunno the way he calls solstice out for meta use and uses it himself previously rubs me the wrong way. Maybe I'm biased because I understand why all the people who say we've never rolled scum say so. Whatever. Moving on. On May 19 2013 09:26 Spicydinosaur wrote: I'm reading raynpelikoneet as a shitty town. He claimed that GK was scum and supported it with a number of points in a couple of posts. This may not be the best argument but at least he's supporting his position. However he then goes off the rails with iamperfection after he gives his quick view of the group. This seems more like a impulse child vote than anything throwing a hissy fit because he feels his play is on a different level. There is a clear difference in the mentality that went into the voting of GK and iamp. Seems very spammy for spammy sake. On the one hand I agree with his analysis that the GK vote and Iamp vote of Rayn's are coming from different places, but to this point every single case or read he's made on another player includes that he thinks they're spammy. Grush, solstice, and now Rayn. I'm not sure if Spicy doesn't know what to look for when scumhunting or deliberately bad scumhunting? Now we get to the post everyone called him out on. I had this written up earlier about it but wasn't around to throw it out there; I think it may sill apply however despite him clearing much of that up. The fuckup JJD/me post on me is honestly pretty terrible since it looks like all he did was look into the first page or two of my filter and come up with a bunch of shit and the completely changes tracks to vote somebody else. His 'case' on JJD is barely even that, all he does is repeat a bunch of the same shit others have. Dropping the fact that he fucked it up to the wayside, the parts of the case he wrote which make sense when applied to the proper people don't even look good of their own accord. On May 19 2013 23:27 Spicydinosaur wrote: Your lurking is a huge problem and it seems you don't really care that people are upset that you are. Even if you have limited time, why not spend it filtering a player and getting an opinion on him off. This post feels like a delay of anything substantive. The best way you can defend yourself is to give me thoughts/opinions on the other players. vote is staying on you. I like this post and agree. Not much else to say. He then starts focusing on GK; I must say the efforts here look pretty sincere. He brings up points against GK that are not just rehashings of stuff other people brought up, which usually makes me feel good about a player. Town generally care to dive deep like that. Overall Spicy didn't look great early but picked up his game. I'd give him a townread for now though that is contigent on him responding to the stuff earlier in the post that I think makes him look not so good. On to Dandel. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
Because literally everything he did this game was scummy. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
The scumclaim....wtf? I guess not aligment indicative (ie scum would never be ballsy enough to do this, or maybe he as scum was counting on us to think that way, WIFOM, etc) I really can't comment much on the marv shitfest because I don't really get what the fuck they were arguing about. The shitfest itself looks like an attempt to get marv purposefully riled up but to what end I have no fucking clue. Again, null. I agree with his read of Vayne; I wish we could get more stuff like this out of him. On May 18 2013 23:55 Dandel Ion wrote: So why are you angry people read you scum if you know you haven't shown your incredible greenness and town love. And that's what I'm saying about you FYI. You haven't let your kermit shine through. Wait, I need more reason than that? He says he suspects me a couple times but does nothing to push it other than this. As a matter of fact he does nothing to push fucking anybody. At all. Gives Grush a townread for the same reasons as me yet I draw all the heat for whatever fucking reason...ugh whatever. Thinks he catches GK in a scumslip and fails, then in the same post goes on a bunch of tangents... I have no fucking clue how to read this guy whatsoever. If I had to commit I'd call him scum just because he doesn't seem to give a fuck about the state of town whatsoever (and supposedly when town he actually does?) I have no clue about his meta so I wouldn't base any read of him on that, but I'd lynch him if he plays another day like he did D1. | ||
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Spicydinosaur
United States382 Posts
As for my "spammy comments," look at the beginning of the game... lotta people wrote spam. Spam doesn't help town and thus seems scummy. Can you disagree with that? Lastly, my case on jar jar, yeah i fucked that post up but i feel the follow up did a decent job of explaining the jarjar vote as you quoted above. | ||
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Spicydinosaur
United States382 Posts
On May 20 2013 10:56 WaveofShadow wrote: Because literally everything he did this game was scummy. I agree but didn't it seem over the top scummy, like no rational scum player would play it like that. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On May 20 2013 11:11 Spicydinosaur wrote: I agree but didn't it seem over the top scummy, like no rational scum player would play it like that. Yeah I mentioned that, but I didn't feel like taking the chance. So looks like it's just us two around Regarding the meta use, you're right and I even commented on you talking about it earlier, derp. I liked how you handled the rest of my filter dive of you. Care to have a look at my dandel read (if you can call it that) and let me know what you think or if you have any insight that I can't get from his shit filter? | ||
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Spicydinosaur
United States382 Posts
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s0Lstice
United States1832 Posts
On May 20 2013 11:24 Spicydinosaur wrote: I agree with you on the marv/ dandel shitstorm. I couldnt make anything out of it other than it was an attempt to rile marv up. The rest of your read on him is pretty good but I say right now i have a null read leading towards scum. His last second switch to sputnik is what is sending off a lot of flags, especially after he said he wasnt going to vote for him and wished that he be vig shot. This is important if you think Marv is town. | ||
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Spicydinosaur
United States382 Posts
I have more of a town read on marv than i do on dandel. Though the riling up comment was a gut feeling i had when it occurred. Time to watch thrones then bed | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
Why only if you think marv is town? One could always attempt to rile marv up if he was mafia too. How is that alignment indicative? | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25557 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25557 Posts
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s0Lstice
United States1832 Posts
On May 20 2013 11:59 WaveofShadow wrote: Why only if you think marv is town? One could always attempt to rile marv up if he was mafia too. How is that alignment indicative? Mainly this is sticking in my head On May 18 2013 23:13 Dandel Ion wrote: Last time I saw that argument for a townread, it was dead wrong. (hapa townreading me in british 2 for troll-tunneling DrH) If one had a town read on Marv at the time, then it should be troubling that Dandel came in an immediately riled him up. Marv not on his game is damaging to the town. I'm realizing as I'm writing this that it sounds associative and stupid. I've been staring at this argument for too long. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25557 Posts
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