[M][N] Les Mafia - Page 5

WaveofShadow

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May 20 2013 03:27 GMT

#1403

On May 20 2013 12:25 Blazinghand wrote:
omg 12k!

Grits.
While I agree with you that your statement is more likely, can you honestly tell me you've never attempted to rile up someone you believe to be scum, as town, knowing you and your play?

WaveofShadow

Canada31495 Posts

May 20 2013 03:40 GMT

#1417

On May 20 2013 12:38 DarthPunk wrote:
Lynch blazinghand tomorrow. I'm not joking around with you.

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This. Is exactly what he does when he slips as scum. Says it himself so it doesn't look so bad. IT IS STILL AS SLIP.

Explain it to me like I'm an idiot. How is what he said about Night 3 a scumslip?

WaveofShadow

Canada31495 Posts

May 20 2013 03:46 GMT

#1425

On May 20 2013 12:41 Blazinghand wrote:

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I assumed this game was a 3-scum game. If this were a 3-scum game, by night 3 I'll have masoned a 3rd person, it's no longer possible we're all scum together.

The OP Does not state the number of scum, and for 16 players 4 would be more normal. DP assumes that I assumed 3 scum due to outside knowledge (ie being in the scum QT) and is attacking me based on that.

So the scumslip is based on the fact that you'd only be masoning other scum players..? What?

Oh wait I think I get it...basically your assumption was that DP thought you were fakeclaiming mason. Alright makes sense. DP it seems really unlikely that BH would fakeclaim mason for the reasons he stated. He's right in that he'd basically have to be scum mason to be even remotely safe with that claim. Are you absolutely sure he's scum just based on the perceived slip?

WaveofShadow

Canada31495 Posts

May 20 2013 03:52 GMT

#1432

On May 20 2013 12:50 Blazinghand wrote:
Like, I "scumslip" all the time as town, and apparently an unusually high amount of the time as a blue. I was lucky that some of those times my claims were rocksolid or I had a good start rather than a bad start. This time, my claim is Mason and people are positing I'm a scum masoner (or am just fakeclaiming entirely in cahoots with marv) so my position is weaker. That being said, I beat the jubjubs trying to mislynch me those times, AND I'LL DO IT THIS TIME TOO.

You keep using that word....I have no idea wtf it's supposed to mean but I always think of this:
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WaveofShadow

Canada31495 Posts

May 20 2013 04:02 GMT

#1437

Maybe I didn't explain it well DP, but I get the scumslip now. I can think of an interesting way to add support to this.
Has anyone ever played in a game or can give evidence of a 16-person game with only 3 scum? Obviously this could be the first but yeah I always assume scum make up 1/4 of the total count.

WaveofShadow

Canada31495 Posts

May 20 2013 04:10 GMT

#1445

On May 20 2013 13:08 DarthPunk wrote:

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Exactly. Blazinghand knows this and yet was operating under the knowledge of a 3 man scum team.

It wasn't...rhetorical I was serious. Because honestly it wouldn't even make sense to me that there are 3 scum in this game, so if someone can find an example it would lend more credence to the scumslip theory.

I also would like to hear what the rest of town thinks about this but I imagine this isn't exactly an active time for most people?

WaveofShadow

Canada31495 Posts

May 20 2013 04:23 GMT

#1454

On May 20 2013 13:17 DarthPunk wrote:

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nope. I would call you all fucking idiots because I didn't scumslip if I was town. or act confused like WoS was initially.

Wait, what?
Are you calling me scum too here? Who is 'all?'

WaveofShadow

Canada31495 Posts

May 20 2013 04:26 GMT

#1457

On May 20 2013 13:24 DarthPunk wrote:

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If I slipped as town I would call you all fucking idiots. 'all' being those accusing me. Don't know how you can get me calling you scum from that.

Because you said as town you wouldn't scumslip or act confused.
Plus 'act' confused insinuates you believe my confusion is an act, which since I'm apparently having so much trouble understand what you're saying, isn't.

Maybe it's all relatively simple and I'm just an idiot or fucking exhausted. I need to go to bed.

WaveofShadow

Canada31495 Posts

May 20 2013 15:11 GMT

#1630

ohai guise, I back.
DP why are we lynching BH tomorrow and not Dandel?

WaveofShadow

Canada31495 Posts

May 20 2013 15:15 GMT

#1633

No I read the slip, but despite BH's actions the fact that you are still completely 100% sure that he is scum doesn't make sense to me when we fucking Dandel just fucking taunting us all game.

WaveofShadow

Canada31495 Posts

May 20 2013 15:20 GMT

#1636

Dandel why the fuck haven't you done anything?

WaveofShadow

Canada31495 Posts

May 20 2013 15:29 GMT

#1638

On May 21 2013 00:26 marvellosity wrote:

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Do you think taunting is a good mafia tactic?

Do you think his behaviour has in any way indicated that he is playing for the town?

WaveofShadow

Canada31495 Posts

May 20 2013 15:34 GMT

#1641

On May 21 2013 00:30 JarJarDrinks wrote:

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Was leaning scum. I wasn't crazy about how he misread my meta or how he was so quick to believe BHs claim. Not sure why he thinks he was "the towniest motherfucker in the game"

And this is fucking stupid. I don't think I've thought DP was scum at any point during this game and the tunnel of BH makes him even more so since he's actually doing it with clear thought and intention.

WaveofShadow

Canada31495 Posts

May 20 2013 15:37 GMT

#1644

On May 21 2013 00:35 marvellosity wrote:

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wasn't my question

I don't know dandel so for him it could very well be. I know scumBH does it.

You going to answer my question?

WaveofShadow

Canada31495 Posts

May 20 2013 15:45 GMT

#1647

On May 21 2013 00:38 marvellosity wrote:
Probably not, no.

Helpful, thanks. So you feel that shutting down my line of questioning is the most effective way to be playing right now?
That's either scum action right there or you have some other reason for finding my questioning useless. I assume you're not going to explain what that is, either?

Why are you afraid to engage me in discussion, marv?

WaveofShadow

Canada31495 Posts

May 20 2013 16:05 GMT

#1651

On May 21 2013 01:00 marvellosity wrote:

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Sweetie, I'll never be afraid to engage you in discussion.

My point is "is he being a good little townie" is a different question to "is this guy mafia". That's the distinction I was trying to get at with my question (which you didn't understand by your counter-question). If you're struggling to see the town motivation in 'taunting' town as town, there's very little mafia motivation for it either, because it brings attention on yourself. Typical mafia MO is to blend in using whatever chosen method; usually "taunting" is not one, but your post said (to paraphrase) "why aren't we lynching dandel for taunting us, the taunting is more convincing as a mafia trait than BH's scumslip + reactions".

If all townies always played proper town-like, the game of mafia would be exceptionally easy.

Ok?

What, then, are your thoughts on Dandel right now? We have so much shit in this town doing nothing and the only one you seem to find it in your heart to defend is Dandel. Is it because you believe him to be town?

I feel like I have no idea what you're up to, marv. You do engage people in discussion and ask all sorts of questions but I don't know what you think of people.

WaveofShadow

Canada31495 Posts

May 20 2013 16:19 GMT

#1654

On May 21 2013 01:11 marvellosity wrote:

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The irony of it is, if it *wasn't* Dandel, I'd be quite confident his slot was town, because antagonistic, blaze players are usually town. But because it is Dandel, I'm not so sure about that read. I went over his filter earlier, and other than the weird shit-fest with me, I didn't find much particularly upsetting. His reads kinda make sense, and they are actually evolved and explained if you look past some of the weirdness.

Quite a lot depends on how he performs on Day 2 I guess.

Thank you. I think I'll be treating him D2 the same way I treated sputnik in that I will expect something from him by a certain point; if he does not deliver I will push for his lynch. Although thinking of it now similar to sputnik it seems he might flip town for the same reasons? Purposefully useless and lurky? (minus the textbook scumtells) Ugh either him JJD or BH atm for me since it's impossible to ignore the way he's been playing. I should probably look into GK again as well because I haven't looked at him in a while and I had him as scum for much of D1---I can't remember if he did anything to alleviate that.

WaveofShadow

Canada31495 Posts

May 20 2013 19:47 GMT

#1696

Marv what would you suggest we do about GK if it seems BH is still mainly on the block tomorrow? Do you think its worth waiting some more to see what he comes up with or is he vig fodder? I don't think he's done anything since before the shitstorm with BH last night.

WaveofShadow

Canada31495 Posts

May 20 2013 20:02 GMT

#1701

I'm going to re read GK when I get the chance but I'm feeling the same way. We'll see. I could go GK BH or JJD tomorrow depending on how things go. I don't agree with BH's townread of JJD.