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On May 21 2013 00:00 Dandel Ion wrote:
please
I'll re ask my question that got buried before the BH slip.
Dandel if you thought that sputnik should be vig shot and not lynched then why vote at the last second for the lynch?
On May 19 2013 21:00 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2013 05:45 marvellosity wrote:
The weirdest thing about Dandel that I noticed is when he gave a bunch of names he could lynch, sputnik wasn't one of them, when it seemed he would fit on the list he made. Becaue 1) I find him mildly amusing 2) he's hyper-lurking which should be dealt with by vigshootings/host KP
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On May 21 2013 00:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
ohai guise, I back.
DP why are we lynching BH tomorrow and not Dandel?
Quick summary: BH scumslips the amount of mafia and immediately goes to damage control. Go to page 71 of the thread to see where it begins.
On May 20 2013 12:34 Blazinghand wrote:
also there could be 4 scum instead of 3 scum which I guess makes more sense for a 16 player game
On May 20 2013 12:37 Blazinghand wrote:
Wow if I get lynched for that I'm never gonna live it down am I
On May 20 2013 12:36 DarthPunk wrote:
What the fuck. HOW ARE YOU SO CONFIDENT THAT THERE ARE THREE MAFIA WHEN IT WOULD MAKE SENSE FOR THERE TO BE FOUR MAFIA?
On May 20 2013 12:43 DarthPunk wrote:
Except he didn't assume anything. He blatantly stated it as a fact, and then immediately went into damage mitigation when he realised how badly he fucked up.
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On May 21 2013 00:52 s0Lstice wrote:
The continued absence of grush is making me think more and more that he really didn't like having starsenses dragged out of him.
So I've been through the filters multiple times, I'm left feeling like the scum are in the following group: BH, grush, dandel, jar jar, GK. BH for the slip, grush for what I just said, dandel for his continued desire to do nothing to help the town, JarJar for his suddenly appearing scumread on a pretty town DP, and GK because his meta cases have been bad to the point of being fabrications. These reasons are coupled with process of elimination via town reads.
The last two are pretty interchangeable right now...I still wanna see how JarJar and GK behave in day 2, and to be fair I had a townread on JarJar before this little exhange we just had. Now I'm not so sure.
If BH flips scum would you still think jarjar is scum?
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On May 21 2013 06:44 goodkarma wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2013 08:17 Spicydinosaur wrote:On May 20 2013 07:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 20 2013 07:50 Spicydinosaur wrote:Dandel if you thought that sputnik should be vig shot and not lynched then why vote at the last second for the lynch? On May 19 2013 21:00 Dandel Ion wrote:On May 19 2013 05:45 marvellosity wrote:
The weirdest thing about Dandel that I noticed is when he gave a bunch of names he could lynch, sputnik wasn't one of them, when it seemed he would fit on the list he made. Becaue 1) I find him mildly amusing 2) he's hyper-lurking which should be dealt with by vigshootings/host KP Do you think GK is scum? yeah i do. I think he's overemphasizing meta way too much and holds double standards. Take me and WoS for example. On May 19 2013 02:15 goodkarma wrote:
WaveofShadow, on the other hand, is a different matter. From what I remember of his play in The Game, he played pretty horribly. As town he was wishy washy about his stances on most players, and when he was nearly lynched the only thing that really saved him was that he blueclaimed. Here, he seems to be a lot more sure of himself in places, but in a way that doesn't really make sense to me from a town perspective. Sputnik, who basically made one scummy post and lurked, is "sure scum" to him. And Grush is "sure town" for saying starsenses. This has already been discussed, but the contrast from his townplay is what stands out to me. Further, he seems to really like asking people for scumreads. His questions don't seem to really have any purpose other than to make him look more active. Look at his filter and see how many times he asks a variation of "Who you think is scum?" It's a pretty pointless thing to ask, given everyone here is going to be giving their scumreads anyways.
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##Vote: WaveofShadow Here he says that WoS is scum because he's more sure of himself now, than when he was when he was town, hence he's scum. If WoS was more wishy washy like he was in previous games, gf would be ok with that according to his own logic. On May 19 2013 20:18 goodkarma wrote:
Spicydinosaur: What stands out most to me about spicy is that he has had a bit to say but he's had literally ZERO scumreads most of the game. He's pretty wishy-washy in general. One post that demonstrated this well he literally started (in discussing Solstice) by saying “I think this guy is very scummy.” And ends the post saying “I don’t think he’s scum.” Further, in his vote post he somehow manages to mix up the name of who he’s voting for. For sure this could be an honest mistake, but it definitely doesn’t demonstrate he’s very invested in the game. When you think someone’s scum, it’s generally burning in your mind as you’re writing up your post. That he could just mix things up, say “oops sorry” to the thread, and then get away with it is disturbing to me. This is the kind of guy you shouldn't let fly under the radar. In the newbie game that just finished that I observed, he had opinions on other players he thought were scummy. That just isn’t the case here. He’s like “this guy looks kinda bad,” or “this guy is a shitty townie,” but when it comes to who’s actually scum he kinda doesn’t have much to say until his botched up vote post.
Here he says im scum for basically the same reason as WoS, in that I'm not acting like i did in my previous game where I had better reads earlier on. If this is where his analysis ends that would be at least consistent. He goes on later to state that being wishy washy is a complete scum trait. He's not consistent with his reasonings. Also he claims that in the newbie game i had suspects and evolving opinions. My reading on WoS can easily be considered an evolving opinion. One of my posts about WoS started off claiming he was scum but then explained he got better. How is that not an evolving opinion. If i called WoS scum first, and then in a second post said eh nvm, how would that be different. On May 19 2013 20:38 goodkarma wrote:
As for spicy, he only discussed Solstice when you prodded him to. I disagree that he had that response worked on / mostly onhand as you seem to have speculated. I think he just made it up on the spot. And that his reponse was the wishy-washy kind you'd see from scum. I'd encourage you to look at this game, and then look at his last newbie game. He has opinions this game for sure, but his scumhunting has been pretty nonexistent. In said newbie game, he had suspects and keeped evolving opinions.
These thoughts and the ones i've had on him previously make me believe he's scum. When doing meta-analysis, different people behave differently. Should WoS change his playstyle one game from being wishy-washy and apologetic (as town) to being very sure of himself here, that's something that needs to be looked into. In general, when you see someone discussing having 100% certainty this guy's town and this guy's scum, it can be an indicator of privileged knowledge that only scum would be privy to. On the other hand, when you have someone like BH who's usually very assertive have little opinion on anyone, that can be a scumtell. In short, different people behave differently. I work with general scumtells for sure, but I also keep in consideration how people typically behave for both their town and scumgames. And then you discuss how your reading on WoS evolved over time, when you really didn't discuss him at all except when mixing up his name in your vote post... I really don't know what to make of your posting to date. On the one hand, it is super-scummy. On the other, it is very hard for me to believe that a scum would be so insanely careless. But then again, we have this post from you: Show nested quote +On May 20 2013 11:11 Spicydinosaur wrote:On May 20 2013 10:56 WaveofShadow wrote:On May 20 2013 10:52 Spicydinosaur wrote:On May 20 2013 10:41 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh yeah didn't mention the lynch. I am a little surprised he flipped town honestly but as others have said he was going to have to die at some point. Eliminating chaff D1 isn't the worst thing to happen.
Why surprised? Because literally everything he did this game was scummy. I agree but didn't it seem over the top scummy, like no rational scum player would play it like that. So you have some awareness of how you could come off townie by looking insanely scummy (if that makes any sense...). I feel like I'm looking at your filter and I'm WIFOM-ing myself. The simplest explanation is that you're a newbie and as scum you would be less likely to have derped as hard as you have. And I'll stick with that assessment for now. I would really like to know what other scumreads you have other than myself and hopefully BH.
Clarification: when i said my views were evolving I meant S0L and not WoS and was referring to this posting below.
On May 18 2013 23:23 Spicydinosaur wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 21:17 marvellosity wrote:
I want rayn and Spicy to pipe up as well. s0Lstice's filter comes up very scummy for me. He started off by posting about his meta and pointing out that he was never scum. Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 02:52 s0Lstice wrote:
hey hi
I recognize a lot of people in this game, but I haven't played with all of you. I just recently updated my profile with my past games so go peruse them if you want.
I've never rolled scum, and my streak continues for this game. So...sup town! I get them some people like to use a lot of meta to play but the fact that he has always been town is irrelevant as every new game could be the first time you get scum. He also throws some spam in a number of his posts like this: Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 04:36 s0Lstice wrote:
/trustfall catch me WoS
soo your question was: s0l can you talk about yourself? yea I can do that.
I tend to be a fan of meta. I don't use it all the time...I use it in a manner similar to how BH was describing. I have a shitty win record, though I do get NKed early a fair amount. I have a virgin, unlynched neck. I'm usually pretty active. I like weird set-ups just as much as I like a good normal mini. I like ice cream, electric guitars, and words that sound like what they mean.
I've noticed that there is a lot of spam in many guy's post so this might not be such a big deal. The thing that really bugs me is this post: Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 03:40 s0Lstice wrote:
Yup, both things are there. I said I'm always town because, like I said, some folks may find it helpful to know. On a personal note, I happen to think it's hilarious that I can't seem to ever draw scum.
That's related to Stutters question that I missed. If you have never played scum before, chances are your first time isn't going to be so graceful. It's just one more piece of the puzzle; it helps me weight any nervousness/silence/inconsistency that I see.
He keeps pushing this reliance on meta and I find it extremely scummy. He firsts points out that he has never rolled scum, then says that if you roll scum for the first time, you are going to have a bad time. His posts can be summed up in a nice simple sentence: I have never rolled scum and if I did I would be playing so much shittier that it would be obvious. His later posts seem to then abandon mention of meta and actually really focus on reading other players. He didn't jump on the vayne bandwagon like a lot of others did. I did like his read on goodkarma and did a good job of calling him out on his back and forth thoughts of jarjar. As of now I'd say he's not scum. I really dislike his meta play style but his subsequent posts have gotten better.
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On May 21 2013 08:34 marvellosity wrote:
I would say town vigis usually shoot on night 1s (even though they shouldn't in minis especially, they should wait). I rolled vigi 3 times, shot twice first night and once 2nd night. Then again I don't expect to live to use my shot.
In my last game I was vig but I wasn't allowed to shoot till n2. Is that just for newbie games or is it just up to the host?
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I still want a real explanation for Dandel's last second vote switch. He claimed it was for consolidation but it wasn't necessary for the vote. When he was called out on it, he gave a bullshit response.
On May 21 2013 00:34 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2013 00:30 iamperfection wrote:On May 21 2013 00:18 Dandel Ion wrote:On May 21 2013 00:05 Spicydinosaur wrote:On May 21 2013 00:00 Dandel Ion wrote:
please I'll re ask my question that got buried before the BH slip. Dandel if you thought that sputnik should be vig shot and not lynched then why vote at the last second for the lynch? On May 19 2013 21:00 Dandel Ion wrote:On May 19 2013 05:45 marvellosity wrote:
The weirdest thing about Dandel that I noticed is when he gave a bunch of names he could lynch, sputnik wasn't one of them, when it seemed he would fit on the list he made. Becaue 1) I find him mildly amusing 2) he's hyper-lurking which should be dealt with by vigshootings/host KP consolidation he still was a better vig shot than lynch but your vote wasn't necessary you are american, how dare you say this every vote counts for FREEDOM
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On May 21 2013 16:15 yamato77 wrote:
I really don't understand the Rayn shot. It doesn't make a lot of sense to me as a scum kill. Seems more like a 3P kill, given that there were more dangerous players alive who seemed more universal as townreads. If we flip BH, it practically confirms this suspicion, and it does make BH look quite terrible if I trust my analysis.
IDK man, this game is hard. If BH flips town I'm really going to be upset.
My feeling on the rayn kill is that it if it was a 3P kill, then GK is a highly likely to be the 3P killer. Rayne's posts D1 moved around a bit but a large portion was written dealing with GK. It's the only thing that could possibly justify the kill aside from the vig shots. The other possible interpretation I was thinking was that it was a mafia vig shot and they shot rayne because they thought the better targets had docs on them that night.
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jarjar, who are your other scum reads?
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On May 21 2013 23:22 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2013 22:24 marvellosity wrote:On May 21 2013 22:15 JarJarDrinks wrote:On May 21 2013 21:36 Spicydinosaur wrote:
jarjar, who are your other scum reads? YOU, Darthpunk and probably Grush You - based on the CnP fail as well as just being inconsistant in your explaination for it. DP - reasons already stated. Grush - for not posting any real opinion yet this game. What else do you find suspicious about Spicy? Various players in this game are of the opinion that a mistake like that is more likely to come from a townie, why in particular do you disagree? Sure, I think the original post w/ could be chalked up to a townie mistake. But then he makes the post where he explains how it was a CnP error which just didn't make any sense? And when I call him out on it, he completely ignores it. It's only after I repost the case like 2 days later and several other people realize how bad it is and start prodding him for an answer does he decide to respond. And here are his explainations: Show nested quote +On May 20 2013 05:25 Spicydinosaur wrote:
WoS i have a null read on. In my post where i voted jarjar and had to part of WoS in it, I was originally going to be putting my vote on WoS. I wasn't a fan of his earlier posts but the last parts sounded more towny so I decided to switch it someone else, jarjar. Didn't check my post before i published it so that was a fuck up on my part. "A lot of his posts are full of self doubt and lack confidence." that was supposed to be the start of jarjar's look and the stuff before should have been deleted.
My vote there was always on jarjar. look at the time of my post and the time i posted in the vote thread. should be pretty close. Show nested quote +On May 20 2013 05:30 Spicydinosaur wrote:On May 20 2013 05:26 iamperfection wrote:On May 20 2013 05:25 Spicydinosaur wrote:
WoS i have a null read on. In my post where i voted jarjar and had to part of WoS in it, I was originally going to be putting my vote on WoS. I wasn't a fan of his earlier posts but the last parts sounded more towny so I decided to switch it someone else, jarjar. Didn't check my post before i published it so that was a fuck up on my part. "A lot of his posts are full of self doubt and lack confidence." that was supposed to be the start of jarjar's look and the stuff before should have been deleted.
My vote there was always on jarjar. look at the time of my post and the time i posted in the vote thread. should be pretty close. why was there a wos quote right after it was supposed to be talking about jar jar It was a colossal fuck up in my post. didn't check it as i meant to delete everything about WOS. I can only guess that i saw the text above as stating the unsure statement and i didnt check below it. I mean look @ that first post. He says he has a null read on WOS but that's where he was originally gonna put his vote? And then he says "A lot of his posts are full of self doubt and lack confidence." was supposed to refer to me. Does anyone really feel that way about my posts?
The null read on WOS was my concluding thought when the post was published. When i began writing it I was going to vote WOS and was writing as such, but as I was filtering and building the case, I realized he was acting townie, hence the switch to a null read.
As for your excuses/lack of confidence, here are the posts I was referring too:
On May 18 2013 20:51 JarJarDrinks wrote:
In all the game's I've been in, I'd imagine the majority of my posts came during the week while I was @ work. Don't want to make an excuse but I'm always gonna be a little less active on the weekend. Last game I got lynched day 1 and a big part of the reasoning was because I went inactive for a portion of the day.
On May 18 2013 20:59 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Didn't mean to sound like I was complaining about it. Just wanted to point it out since the last noob game I was in had 25 pages TOTAL. It's a big change.
On May 19 2013 12:48 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2013 11:19 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Jarjar on the other hand has posted some content, though very little. He's been the subject of attack a number of times but he has yet defended himself properly. Whether his in-activeness is due to RL or deliberate scum, I don't like it. I get the feeling he tried coasting D1 and got caught and really doesn't know what to do. His posts contain a lot of excuses which is scummy. I'm putting my vote on him.
##vote jarjardrinks I've said that I cant really be that active on the weekends. I don't know how that means my "posts contain a lot of excuses" And like, you're saying that I've yet to defend myself properly. Well the only real case against me is that I've been lurking. Anything I can say to defend myself I'm sure is gonna sound like more excuses to you. Is there something specific that you or someone is accusing me of that I should post a defense for?
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I should add that I think jarjar is a lot lower on my scum list now since I voted for him.
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On May 21 2013 23:39 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2013 23:38 Spicydinosaur wrote:
I should add that I think jarjar is a lot lower on my scum list now since I voted for him. Mind explaining why?
One of my biggest problems with him was his lack of post/excuse for postings which he has improved on. I thought his asking for town credit didn't feel scummy. He was taking a lot of heat D1 and when the BH slip happened, his response felt like a "i told you so!" Just felt like a new player reaction more than a scum. I also found it extremely unlikely that jarjar was bussing BH from the beginning, so if BH flips scum, I'd doubt that jarjar would also.
The other reason is that others have jumped out more.
BH with the slip, dandel not giving a fuck and the last second vote still annoys me, and then GK for his no reading role pm, his flimsy arguments and for possibly being the 3P killer.
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Wave, I'm not entirely clear on your frame statement. Are you saying the frame was scum killing Iamp so it would look like BH did it and that the "frame" has nothing to do with BH's slip? Please correct me if i'm misreading.
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On May 22 2013 01:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
Why does it feel like you're the only one who's ever around for me to interact with marv? DP You're welcome to comment on any of this btw.
Maybe because I can't have a conversation with someone who doesn't respond to my post asking you a question.
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On May 22 2013 01:19 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2013 01:17 Spicydinosaur wrote:On May 22 2013 01:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
Why does it feel like you're the only one who's ever around for me to interact with marv? DP You're welcome to comment on any of this btw.
Maybe because I can't have a conversation with someone who doesn't respond to my post asking you a question. Sorry, I figured my explanation after that post answered your question well enough. Did it?
Eh sorta, I was just making sure the "frame" wasn't including the slip.
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Marv or anyone, has there ever been a game with 2 town night masons as BH would like to believe? I ask because my issue with BH is turning less about the 'slip' and more about the setup and his defense.
With Iamp flipping mason it would seem weird for a setup to have 2 town night masons. Just doesn't feel right. Also as Marv pointed out, BH's delayed postings are troubling and definitely scum indicative.
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On May 22 2013 01:37 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2013 01:35 marvellosity wrote:On May 22 2013 01:29 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Marv or anyone, has there ever been a game with 2 town night masons as BH would like to believe? I ask because my issue with BH is turning less about the 'slip' and more about the setup and his defense.
With Iamp flipping mason it would seem weird for a setup to have 2 town night masons. Just doesn't feel right. Also as Marv pointed out, BH's delayed postings are troubling and definitely scum indicative. I'd say a 1-1 split was perhaps more likely, but a 2-0 split is certainly pretty possible. If anyone's lynching BH because we've had a town mason flip they're doing it wrong, it's circumstancial evidence at best. This is exactly what I mean, I don't want to lynch BH just because a town mason flipped, he hasn't acted that scummy before this whole stalling thing. Usually when hes accused hes very quick to fight back but hes kinda laying low. Wouldnt be surprised if hes telling his mafia team what to do after he dies or something.
He fought back immediately after the slip and stayed up pretty late arguing with DP about it. The follow up is a complete void.
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On May 22 2013 03:05 Blazinghand wrote:
oh, wow, looks like there's a real debate going. bleh now I gotta try to not get lynched
Please have something out by tonight, the later it goes the worse it will get for you.
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On May 22 2013 09:47 goodkarma wrote:
I'm in general agreement with this post, except for the 3p thing and that a scum Dandel is far more likely than a scum grush. I have my own thoughts on who might be 3p, but I'll save that for the night phase.
Why wait? why not just say so now
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On May 22 2013 10:36 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2013 09:47 goodkarma wrote:Spoilered Solstice's post above below for your reference.: + Show Spoiler +On May 22 2013 09:11 s0Lstice wrote:Marv (and all)-- This is compelling: Show nested quote +On May 22 2013 01:40 marvellosity wrote:On May 22 2013 01:31 s0Lstice wrote:On May 22 2013 01:26 marvellosity wrote:On May 22 2013 01:24 s0Lstice wrote:On May 18 2013 22:21 JarJarDrinks wrote:On May 18 2013 22:11 marvellosity wrote:On May 18 2013 22:03 iamperfection wrote:
marv do you think jarjar would try to throw dirt on bh if bh is town and jarjar were scum? Maybe? I understand what you're getting at, but I'm ambivalent about it. Is he trying to imply that BH and I are scumbuddies? Is that so when BH flips red I don't look quite as good? If you think me and BH are both scum then help me bus him. ##vote: blazinghand(Sorry if I'm interpretting your post wrong iamp. But that's what I felt like u were saying) This post by JarJar is just so ballsy and fearless. I can't help but assign JJ mad townie points every time I read it. Definitely muddies the waters for me. Either that or it's hilariously honest. lol. That could explain the aggressiveness and anger. Hes spent the whole game building credit for the bus, but no credit is being assigned to him. Associations before the flip ftw Little tidbit for you to think about. The original question from iamp to me was saying this: "do you think jarjar would try to throw dirt on bh if bh is town and jarjar were scum?" What iamp was implying was this: how likely is it for a newer scumplayer to attack a known, stronger player? iamp is basically saying that JarJar looks townier for attacking a strong player. This isn't necessarily that obvious, but JarJar thinks that iamp is saying that Jarjar (mafia) would only attack BH if he were mafia. It could well mean implied guilt, when the original intention of iamp's was actually more of a mini-defence. I went back and read that exchange and I see what you are getting at. I think it's significant. Building on what I said here... Show nested quote +On May 22 2013 01:31 s0Lstice wrote:On May 22 2013 01:26 marvellosity wrote:On May 22 2013 01:24 s0Lstice wrote:On May 18 2013 22:21 JarJarDrinks wrote:On May 18 2013 22:11 marvellosity wrote:On May 18 2013 22:03 iamperfection wrote:
marv do you think jarjar would try to throw dirt on bh if bh is town and jarjar were scum? Maybe? I understand what you're getting at, but I'm ambivalent about it. Is he trying to imply that BH and I are scumbuddies? Is that so when BH flips red I don't look quite as good? If you think me and BH are both scum then help me bus him. ##vote: blazinghand(Sorry if I'm interpretting your post wrong iamp. But that's what I felt like u were saying) This post by JarJar is just so ballsy and fearless. I can't help but assign JJ mad townie points every time I read it. Definitely muddies the waters for me. Either that or it's hilariously honest. lol. That could explain the aggressiveness and anger. Hes spent the whole game building credit for the bus, but no credit is being assigned to him. Associations before the flip ftw ...I went to look at JJ's filter again to see if it looked like he was scrambling for credit for BH's flip, because I seemed to remember him fighting for it a lot. Show nested quote +On May 20 2013 22:39 JarJarDrinks wrote:
All caught up.
So BH scumslipped? I'm shocked. /end sarcasm
FWIW, I don't it's unreasonable to think that DP is bussing here. He's trying to gain town cred for a lynch that almost happened yesterday. If they thought that BH was most likely gonna get lynched or vigged, it'd be a pretty good scum play IMO.
I'm not saying I definately think it's true, but DP "catching" BH in scumslip when there are already several people suspecting BH doesn't make me think DP is any more likely to be town. Bolded is a passive reminder that he's been saying this all along. Also, talking about a DP bus play is just off the wall nuts imo. I see no reason why this thought would cross any town players mind at this juncture...but it could come from the mind of someone who has been thinking 'bus' all game. This is pointed out in the next quote. Show nested quote +On May 20 2013 22:56 JarJarDrinks wrote:On May 20 2013 22:46 marvellosity wrote:On May 20 2013 22:39 JarJarDrinks wrote:
All caught up.
So BH scumslipped? I'm shocked. /end sarcasm
FWIW, I don't it's unreasonable to think that DP is bussing here. He's trying to gain town cred for a lynch that almost happened yesterday. If they thought that BH was most likely gonna get lynched or vigged, it'd be a pretty good scum play IMO.
I'm not saying I definately think it's true, but DP "catching" BH in scumslip when there are already several people suspecting BH doesn't make me think DP is any more likely to be town. Why on earth would you put forward the theory that DP is bussing? There's zero indication in your filter thus far that you think DP is suspicious. Well for starters I've been trying to push for a BH lynch all game. But DP still has me as a top scumread despite basically saying that he's 100% sure BH is scum. He earlier accused me of being a scummie that's too attached to my badwagon. You would think he'd back off me a bit since he supposedly believes that the guy I've been bandwagoning is scum. Another reminder that he has been on BH 24/7. Show nested quote +On May 20 2013 23:13 JarJarDrinks wrote:On May 20 2013 23:05 marvellosity wrote:On May 20 2013 22:56 JarJarDrinks wrote:On May 20 2013 22:46 marvellosity wrote:On May 20 2013 22:39 JarJarDrinks wrote:
All caught up.
So BH scumslipped? I'm shocked. /end sarcasm
FWIW, I don't it's unreasonable to think that DP is bussing here. He's trying to gain town cred for a lynch that almost happened yesterday. If they thought that BH was most likely gonna get lynched or vigged, it'd be a pretty good scum play IMO.
I'm not saying I definately think it's true, but DP "catching" BH in scumslip when there are already several people suspecting BH doesn't make me think DP is any more likely to be town. Why on earth would you put forward the theory that DP is bussing? There's zero indication in your filter thus far that you think DP is suspicious. Well for starters I've been trying to push for a BH lynch all game. But DP still has me as a top scumread despite basically saying that he's 100% sure BH is scum. He earlier accused me of being a scummie that's too attached to my badwagon. You would think he'd back off me a bit since he supposedly believes that the guy I've been bandwagoning is scum. So if DP is potentially mafia bussing BH, same could be true of you on Day 1, right? Like "gosh darnit, everyone believes the claim, but I still think he's mafia!" Looks good if BH later flips mafia, right? I'm not saying that I should be treated as a confirmed townie or anything. But I think I should get some town cred for being the first person to call him out. Show nested quote +On May 20 2013 23:46 JarJarDrinks wrote:On May 20 2013 23:37 DarthPunk wrote:
[This guy knows BH is scum. There is no doubt. and he is trying to make me look bad or something when BH flips red. I don't give a fuck if it's association before the flip. Lynch this guy after BH. Lol, No that's what ur doing. I've been saying BH is scum ALL F'N GAME. You've been saying he was scum since he almost got lynched. Those speak for themselves. Combine this with what Marv was saying about his attitude: Show nested quote +On May 22 2013 01:15 marvellosity wrote:
Because I'm omnipresent and I have lovely abs.
Thank you for asking me to explain something I said I couldn't explain very well. He's coming across as overly aggressive, it feels like he's working against town rather than with town. Do you understand what I mean by that? Fighting for credit for bus-->not getting it-->aggressive/attitude It reminds me of how Mattchew was caught in 'I Can't Believe it's Not Themed.' He and sciberbia drove for a lynch of a scum talismania, and scum Mattchew wanted to take credit for it when it was very much irrelevant who did what. I mean, we haven't seen a flip yet, but this fits pretty snugly. BH, JJ, one of Dandel/grush for scum....GK for 3p? I'm in general agreement with this post, except for the 3p thing and that a scum Dandel is far more likely than a scum grush. I have my own thoughts on who might be 3p, but I'll save that for the night phase. I'd like it if you could show the slightest interest in this game.
This sentiment should also extend to grush
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With the focus on BH today, I feel a lot of players are taking the safe path today by not posting much and coasting to the vote. Very scummy.
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