Doctor Who Mafia

On April 15 2013 13:12 Sylencia wrote:
Actually, if the whole town get lynched do the Angels lose because they didn't feed on 3 people? :\

On May 15 2013 23:57 marvellosity wrote:


This carries the massive risk of scum influencing what the moves we make are.

On May 15 2013 23:58 phagga wrote:


You are aware that some the letters are scum, right? So by herding all people together you also get townies near scum. How do you propose to deal with that?

On May 16 2013 00:03 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:


This is why I propose everyone to the edges instead of everyone standing back to back in the middle. Speaking of which:



This is very suspicious looking

On May 16 2013 00:11 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Have it your way.

I don't find Dec suspicious anymore after his justification although I still disagree with his plan.

On May 16 2013 00:03 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
This is why I propose everyone to the edges instead of everyone standing back to back in the middle. Speaking of which:

On May 16 2013 00:13 Zephirdd wrote:


I don't think it makes sense to have puppets if the angels are shown on the board. My interpretation at least.

Puppets: The angels control some number of fake people on the board. Anything that happens to this person happens to the angel as well.

In addition, there are a number of Angels on the board that have not awakened. These are simply statues that are not controlled by anyone and have no powers

On May 16 2013 00:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
I hate plans. Plans suck.
How about for day 1. EVERYONE JUST CHOOSES RANDOM ACTIONS AND DIRECTIONS???????.

zeph and deconduo have only been talking about setup. Only. Hmm. Easy to do as scum.

Zeph, do you have reads?
Deconduo, do you have reads?

On May 16 2013 00:19 Oatsmaster wrote:

Plans suck.
At least these plans suck.
Since we dont know who we are, how in the whole wide world can we intentionally go to a place on a board?

On May 15 2013 23:58 Zephirdd wrote:
What do you think of sentinel and fferyllt?

On May 15 2013 13:06 fferyllt wrote:

agree.

On May 16 2013 01:07 fferyllt wrote:

Being whiteknighted like this gives me a bad case of hives.

On May 15 2013 11:09 ghost_403 wrote:
Everyone, glhf.

Two quick thoughts. First of all, this is a Greymist game. Don't rely on mechanics or power roles or anything else. At the end of the day, the only way to make sure that the town wins the game is to really rely on scum hunting. Focus on finding scum, don't get too caught up in the mechanics.

Secondly, I think I agree with Phagga, that we need some sort of plan to start working together to identify all of the pieces on the board. His plan of claiming before the lynch is pretty solid and comes at no loss to us. Sure, the mafia are going to mess with our plans, but there's only so much that they can do. I would like to start working together on that so that we fix the information imbalance; *hushed voice* they already know where we are.

Lastly (totally lied about the two quick thoughts), I'm lynching Marv Day 3 if he's not dead at that point. @marv <3

And numbah four (I worship chaos), I have a MS of 4.

On May 15 2013 11:19 ghost_403 wrote:


We're assuming that the angels have to be physically close to the other players in order to use their night actions. Someone speculated earlier that town PRs would have similar mechanics. Not dying at night >> dying at night.

But, you're right. Focus on finding scum. You have any thoughts on the other players so far?

On May 17 2013 01:38 marvellosity wrote:
I actually have remarkably little time between now and the deadline, which is annoying. Curses early deadline!

There are two main reasons I could lynch deconduo, since I keep canvassing opinion about it.

First of all, there's the drop and run case on ghost. It's an easy case for mafia to make (yes yes, I know I agreed with some of it), and besides it there's very little interactions or comments on other players. I did a check on some of his previous games earlier, in PYP Boardwalk, decon was pretty quick to offer comments on several different players, unlike here.

On May 17 2013 01:38 marvellosity wrote:
Secondly there's this post:



I still feel this plan is pretty mafia-motivated. As I understand how the movement rules work, giving pre-determined directions to players has massive benefits for mafia, because they know how the movements correspond to each player, which could help them determine how the hidden angels that we don't know about would move, while giving out information ahead of townies ahead of time is meaningless because they can't know who they are.

On May 17 2013 02:57 Zephirdd wrote:
Deconduo disappeared after the ghost case. At this time yesterday he had posted at least once.

On May 17 2013 03:34 Zephirdd wrote:
anyways, hi deconduo

Please do explain why did you talk about fferyllt and Sentinel so differently on this post:
+ Show Spoiler +

Specifically, you gave an advice to Sentinel, but for fferllyt you called her reads "stretch". No "she needs to be careful", no "she should reassert something before calling it a read" or something like that.

Tell us, what do you think of Sentinel and fferllyt at this time, about their play.

Also do talk about ghost while you're at it.

On May 16 2013 10:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:


It's possible. Which means maybe yes, maybe no. If yes, then angels gain nothing and town gains something. If no, then the angels and town both gain something, but angels gain more because they can use the info to win whereas town only needs to coordinate. However, in the second scenario, townies are able to lie/stay silent to protect themselves. If my movement speed was 5, for instance, I could say I had 2-3 movespeed to attract nearby angels. I see something I'm not supposed to, I can use all 5 the next night and dart around like the wind. Again, assuming the angels know nothing.

Really it's all chance. And I don't think it's worth a night experimenting with it. So I'm going to back away from this and agree to disagree. At the very least we will voice our movements before the deadline for clarity's sake. Anything else, like you said, is open to discussion.

##unvote

Time for some thoughts on Ghost's recent post.



I find a bunch of problems with this alone. Being alone while scumhunting makes my mafiadick hard. It means I can focus on what's already present in the thread with a clear mind, without having to worry about changing conditions. A lot of my reasoning goes out the window when the thread updates. I don't know why you'd have a problem with it and resort to lurking.




Explain me why you vote for Vivax and not myself. That's a shitty vote to throw around.

Game plan for myself is to organize my thoughts because that's what I'm lacking right now. I'm going to draft up another spreadsheet to consolidate my reads tomorrow and then start making calls from that.

On May 16 2013 08:54 ghost_403 wrote:
A brief retort at Marv and Dec: Only an idiot would completely ignore the mechanics of a game. I chimed in my two cents, and then I was off to scum hunt. Unfortunately, it seems that no one is around whenever I'm here. Your reasons for voting me are terrible. Not a good sign, haven't decided what to make of that.

On May 15 2013 11:09 ghost_403 wrote:
Two quick thoughts. First of all, this is a Greymist game. Don't rely on mechanics or power roles or anything else. At the end of the day, the only way to make sure that the town wins the game is to really rely on scum hunting. Focus on finding scum, don't get too caught up in the mechanics.

On May 17 2013 03:27 Vivax wrote:


wat
maybe read thread before posting

On May 17 2013 04:19 Zephirdd wrote:
dec, whats your opinion of Vivax's case on me?

Or rather, of my case on Vivax?

On May 17 2013 04:57 marvellosity wrote:


There is a case, and "i'm always useless on day 1" is not a defence to it either. But whatever, we can deal with you later if needs be.

On May 17 2013 05:01 marvellosity wrote:
My case wasn't 50% meta. My case was that you made a shit case and didn't interact with anyone.

Don't misrepresent.

On May 17 2013 01:38 marvellosity wrote:
I actually have remarkably little time between now and the deadline, which is annoying. Curses early deadline!

There are two main reasons I could lynch deconduo, since I keep canvassing opinion about it.

First of all, there's the drop and run case on ghost. It's an easy case for mafia to make (yes yes, I know I agreed with some of it), and besides it there's very little interactions or comments on other players. I did a check on some of his previous games earlier, in PYP Boardwalk, decon was pretty quick to offer comments on several different players, unlike here.

On May 16 2013 09:07 marvellosity wrote:
Just popping in before bed. No, the reasons for voting you, that I agreed with certainly, are not terrible at all, they're pretty solid. Trying to dismiss them as terrible when they simply aren't smells bad.

On May 17 2013 05:08 marvellosity wrote:


meta was just the bit on the end. don't know how you missed the interactions bit in the same post you quoted

points 3 and 4 were shit. well, what was really shit is that you disappeared until just before deadline. but whats done is done

On April 14 2013 07:35 GreYMisT wrote:
Time Cycle:
This game will follow a 47 hour COMBINED day/night cycle. There will be a 1 hour resolution period where no posting will be allowed. In case I am not able to post around deadline, any votes after the 47 hour mark will not count and the game will be put on halt until the night post is up. Actions/votes will be accepted up to and including the posted time, but not after.

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On May 17 2013 06:19 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I sent face left, 2 right 1 up. Nobody stood still as far as I see, so it must have gone through (I did it right on the deadline).

I don't think anyone turned left, did they? Which would mean I'm player G.

he closed her eyes and waited to be sent back in time to see her husband again. The Angel was on her in an instant and with lightning speed, snapped her neck with a sickening crunch.

You are one of the Weeping Angels AKA "the only psychopaths in the universe to kill you nicely" because you feed on people by sending them back time (except for when you break someone’s neck when you get full, then it’s not so nice).

On May 18 2013 23:26 Oatsmaster wrote:

K sounds like a great idea.
I love being confirmed town .
Or we lynch Deconduo if he survives.

##Unvote
Now ghost. Why is your vote still on me?

On May 18 2013 23:58 Oatsmaster wrote:

Then scum wont shoot you and you get more checks.

Clearly cool strats.

On May 19 2013 00:01 Oatsmaster wrote:

Slight deviation from the plan.

How likely do you think it is that you are a zombie in disguise?

On May 19 2013 00:21 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Going back to the first part though, prolonging the game also benefits scum due to move speed increase.

Your movement speed begins at [redacted] and increases [redacted].

On May 19 2013 07:58 mkfuba07 wrote:
My guess is that both you and oats tried to move to the same space, and therefore stopped moving. Crap...

On May 20 2013 09:35 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Your last part is wrong. It only says an angel takes precedence, so the implication is that if you move forward 3 and only actually move 2 when movement is resolved, then an angel is invisible in the third box.

Or in this case since you're going forward, the red angel will be illuminated in your flashlight

On May 21 2013 04:56 phagga wrote:
decon, can you check multiple people at once if you are right next to them?

On May 21 2013 06:31 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Here is the analysis I wrote last night on who I thought was going to be the last remaining angel.

I have been aware of the third scum for some time now. In fact, he was hiding under my nose the third time. The third angel is Deconduo.

I became aware of this shortly before the fferyllt lynch. Look at page 3 of his filter. In order, he implicitly accuses ghost, feryl and oats without offering substantial evidence for any lynch. Actually he did accuse ghost beforehand, but only when he felt it was safe to do so - when I pointed out ghost's slip in accusing vivax and not myself. I thought it was distancing but it still appears to make sense with a towny ghost and a scummy dec. He can soft accuse feryl or oats and incite others to actually push for their lynch, without seeming like a catalyst for a mislynch (of feryl) in the event that either of them flip town. This is a very scummy action.

But this can be construed as an indecisive townie in some way, so we couldn't rule out the possibility that he was in fact, a detective. But then he makes his next mistake - offering absolute zero pro-town information. In fact, he fills the thread with complaints and questions that he could not reach and check Oatsmaster.



This is the only post of the time period that breaks this trend. Note the implications of the third party here - we are not only to hunt the 2 scums but find a third player who may be something like SK. He is distracting from our prime directive at this point. Luckily Zeph steps in as the vig. But this takes the cake:



This (as well as the post it was contained in) confirmed my read on deconduo when I was looking at the reasons people were voting for ghost. Deconduo sheeped my case without any constructive remarks to silently align himself behind the mislynch. Using his soft accusations he can quickly sheep any player he previously accused, here being ghost.

And then, he plays dumb to further his standing as detective. By making all these questions, which the mod had already answered, dec keeps implying he is a detective and by extension so is Oats. So why would an actual detective want to waste another valuable night confirming someone he already knows? No, scum deconduo has been clouding up the process of finding scum with questions about a known mechanic in the game. And the hardest part of today has been watching Deconduo dig himself his own grave and say nothing about it until the time is right.




And in the end, he still tries to paint himself green.

This is the plan. We lynch deconduo next night.

On May 21 2013 06:34 mkfuba07 wrote:
And deconduo, how do you feel about oats and sent after phagga's recent post about the "scumslip"?

On May 21 2013 08:07 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
3. This falls under the category of "useless posts intended to confuse". We already learned from the mods several days ago that all of the pieces on the board are human or puppet humans.

On May 21 2013 09:27 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
A weeping angel will be recognizable when a flashlight is shone on it.

Implies that when a flashlight is not shone on it, an angel will not be recognizable.

Also, with angels visible this game would be broken as fuck. If you thought Oats' player piece was an angel I don't see why you would sacrifice yourself, an alleged blue, just so Oats can get lynched the next day.

Note that greymist answered the question whereas crossfire was the one that didn't. Maybe cross was mad because people weren't reading the thread and asked a question that the hosts already answered.

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On May 21 2013 09:28 mkfuba07 wrote:
Deconduo, what do you think of phagga's suggestion to check both him and oats at the same time?

On May 21 2013 15:09 Oatsmaster wrote:

AFAIK, you play way more passively and 'quiet'
This feels like nomination, where you posted good shit that helped you to not get lynched? yeah. I think you didnt get lynched

On May 21 2013 22:19 phagga wrote:
Any reason?

On May 22 2013 05:08 phagga wrote:
Deconduo, what is your opinion on mkfubas post and vote on me?

On May 17 2013 04:49 Blazinghand wrote:
i see that there are 3 votes on vivax, for on deconduo. I will not let a no-lynch happen. there are 10 minutes remaining. everyone get onto deconduo. now.

##unvote
##vote deconduo

On May 17 2013 04:53 Blazinghand wrote:
sentinel with you me dec and ghost phagga oats we could have 6 on Vivax

one more to lynch

ANYONE WANT TO GO TO VIVAX?