EPTDevil's advocate on your suspicion towards Palmar's post; as scum why put in that kind of effort just to make it look like you're contributing with a summary post, when summary posts are known to be inherently useless?
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WaveOfCheesecake
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Devil's advocate on your suspicion towards Palmar's post; as scum why put in that kind of effort just to make it look like you're contributing with a summary post, when summary posts are known to be inherently useless? | ||
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raynmaster
Ivory Coast67 Posts
On April 14 2013 16:23 WaveOfCheesecake wrote: Oats at some point during the night I'd like to hear your thoughts regarding MA and/or my case. In your own time though 'cause I won't be around. Devil's advocate on your suspicion towards Palmar's post; as scum why put in that kind of effort just to make it look like you're contributing with a summary post, when summary posts are known to be inherently useless? Your case is MA jokes when town and not when scum right? Or is it deeper? Scum still post summary posts even though its known to be scummy. Like why do scumtells exist if scum dont do them? | ||
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SamuelLJackson
223 Posts
On April 14 2013 15:31 raynmaster wrote: Why does EVERYONE not live in timezones that allows me to interact with dudes :/ Syllo and Sandro, why is this your only useful post? In over 30 hours of play, you have 1 post. This post is echoing town sentiment at that point too. Is this still current? Do you have any other reads? You are mischaracterizing or not reading our* filter if you think that's our only useful post. Why is that? *I (syllo) have been made every single post so far, because I'm a moron and promised to take care of the weekend. We didn't expect the game to start this quickly | ||
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WaveOfCheesecake
109 Posts
As for my case it's deeper than that. He'll generally joke around upon thread entry as either alignment, more likely to do so as town---but this game upon late thread entry as scum he was too afraid to joke around. Also care of posting and lack of calling people scum/make cases is scum Mocsta. I'd suggest actually reading it and looking for yourself at some of his past games if you want the full effect. Be back in thread later today. | ||
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raynmaster
Ivory Coast67 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + On April 13 2013 16:51 SamuelLJackson wrote: How about we have either have everyone nuke themselves? It's seems very likely that at least mafia has a nuke, and possibly both mafia and town. It's 8-3, but, without taking nukes into account, that doesn't impact the number of mislynches we have, and therefore I think it's very unlikely that mafia has no roles given how much everyone being a hydra favors town. With this assumption at worst we get a 1-1 trade and if there's an anti-nuker, we could even decide to save one. On April 13 2013 16:34 SamuelLJackson wrote: Because most* hosts are terrible** and only make jokes and interact with players who are town. This literally happens every game. *everyone except you **no offense intended On April 13 2013 17:15 SamuelLJackson wrote: At the time of this post the game had been going on for less than 8 hours; did you genuinely find the thread worse than usual and their posting indicative of them waiting for others to "carry" them? Can you make a list of players (should be easy since you suggested that there were many) who you thought were doing this? You named one, but that was just a person who prima facie left due to time zone constraints. Like these posts have no follow up and seem to ask questions for the sake of asking them. I did miss some other useful posts, but its like you hop around a lot, I have no idea what you are thinking, you dont push anyone. Like you vote for FMB without previous interaction and then in your very next post, seem to tell him his way to get you to unvote him /oats | ||
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SamuelLJackson
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On April 14 2013 10:57 InsertSmurfHere wrote: This thread looks like shit. What the fuck is that giant summary post doing in my town? Goddamn I could lynch him JUST for that post. Why the fuck are Kush, GK/CC, and Mocsta shitting the thread up like it's their fucking job? So many questions, only one lynch to sort them out. Is this Yamato? Palmar why do you think this guy is town? Your summary post isn't helping, can you go back to making one sentence explanations | ||
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geript
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InsertSmurfHere
288 Posts
On April 14 2013 17:21 geript wrote: Yes, that was yamato <-- not yamato qfff | ||
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SamuelLJackson
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InsertSmurfHere
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SamuelLJackson
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raynmaster
Ivory Coast67 Posts
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SamuelLJackson
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SamuelLJackson
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On April 14 2013 17:41 raynmaster wrote: Syllo, what is your read on Mocsta? His singular fixation on waveofcheese is a bit suspicious and I don't like how he made a brief remark about agreeing with me on FMB, but then diverted all his attention towards WoC.. Other than that he looks better now and I don't think he is a good lynch today. He has been quite active and the tone seems confident. | ||
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raynmaster
Ivory Coast67 Posts
On April 14 2013 18:10 SamuelLJackson wrote: His singular fixation on waveofcheese is a bit suspicious and I don't like how he made a brief remark about agreeing with me on FMB, but then diverted all his attention towards WoC.. Other than that he looks better now and I don't think he is a good lynch today. He has been quite active and the tone seems confident. So read on WoC? Why does MA look better? | ||
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SamuelLJackson
223 Posts
Why don't you tell me yours? I'm not interested in answering your questions. They don't even make sense; it's very difficult to explain why someone looks "better" and it's not relevant at all. I already gave reasons for not considering mockarmor a priority today and that's all you need to know. | ||
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raynmaster
Ivory Coast67 Posts
On April 14 2013 18:27 SamuelLJackson wrote: Why don't you tell me yours? I'm not interested in answering your questions. They don't even make sense; it's very difficult to explain why someone looks "better" and it's not relevant at all. I already gave reasons for not considering mockarmor a priority today and that's all you need to know. You said 'active' and confident. Right. Not exactly the best reasons to call someone town ever. I wanted you to expand on that but since you didnt want to, whatever. I feel that MA is misinterpreting WoC's push on him and that WoC looks like he wants to find out MA's alignment but MA isnt doing any of that sort himself. He is so closed up and prickly. No jokes and shit. | ||
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John Matrix
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On April 14 2013 16:54 SamuelLJackson wrote: Is this Yamato? Palmar why do you think this guy is town? Your summary post isn't helping, can you go back to making one sentence explanations I could. My long post, had you bothered to read it, contains the information why I think Smurf is town. During the argument that rose from Touchey's claim the thread was boring, he asked all the right questions, and in the face of Vivax blatantly misrepresenting his position, he kept it together and explained in a very matter of fact way why Vivax was wrong. | ||
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John Matrix
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All I find RM doing is trashing literally everyone. He has asked a lot of questions but has not followed them up well if at all. A lot of his filter consists of questions or comments on ongoing thread interactions asking one liner questions. HERE HERE HERE and HERE and many more The vast majority of his filter are short questions like these which I feel RM is using to maintain an appearance of activity and production whilst actually contributing very little and without having to take a firm position Furthermore any real posts or analysis that RM has made have consisted mainly of a recap of the days events with suspicion cast but no firm stance or followup. HERE HERE HERE And HERE Two of those posts in particular are scummy because it shows a reluctance to take a stance and lack of confidence that is a classic scum trait. On April 13 2013 23:18 raynmaster wrote: Yo guys! Gonna post more tonight when i get RL-shit done. Just skimmed through th thread. I find the nuke plans talk kinda stupid, as nukes can be launched with PM's aswell. I dunno how John Matrix would be confirmed by his fake nuke (i also find DP's posts after that pretty odd, when he was saying "apparently we are confirmed town"). I'm interested in Palmar/Syllo exchange after that. Why would a townie fake-nuking be any different from mafia fake-nuking? It's either you have a nuke or not. I can't understand it. Also FiveTouch response to the nuke in the fisrt place is really fishy. Why would you even think the nuke was serious? Do you think Palmar would nuke you guys and if yes, why? I need to talk about this with Oats. Going to read more stuff tonight and comment on other stuff aswell. On April 13 2013 23:45 raynmaster wrote: From what i remember Palmar has a lot of meta on VE. VE could think Palmar is actually nuking him for a reason. Also the answer to their post came pretty quick and without thinking it much further. If it was marv i would think you would have thought about the possibilities from every perspective before posting a response. As it was VE, it's more likely that you guys actually are scum. Not sure though. I gotta consult Oats about what he does think of you guys. /rayn In both of these posts it seems like he is going to draw a conclusion but just doesn't. Both times he says he needs to talk to oats which reeks to me of being careful and worried which are not townie emotions. Both pages of RM's filter are more of the same. One liner useless questions or deriding people for being bad or not giving reads. Which is kind of funny because I am yet to see any kind of case, read or push where RM actually makes a concerted effort to lynch someone or even define his read. The closest I could find was this. AFTER being prompted. On April 14 2013 00:24 raynmaster wrote: Mocsta be scummy now. Some townreads too. Going anywhere with this? /oats Which is just a complete waste of space post that I canlt even believe this is the most solid position/stance in their filter. OH and it was only after being prompted. Summary. Short filter containing one liner posts or negative commentary on thread interactions as the vast majority of content. Evidence of careful play and lack of confidence. Very few reads or pushes despite nailing other people to the wall for that exact reason. Raynmaster is scum. Lynch Raynmaster ##vote: Raynmaster -DP | ||
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raynmaster
Ivory Coast67 Posts
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