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Vatican City State88 Posts
On April 14 2013 13:18 WaveOfCheesecake wrote:
You don't want me shitting up the thread? Posting random reads on other people like that giant fucking summary post seems a lot shittier to me than what I've been doing, and I don't feel like making random reads/lists just because someone doesn't feel I've done enough to them.
[/b]If you feel so strongly about this; why have you not pursued the giant fucking summary post originator?
Instead you continue to make posts saying: Im playing with my dick in the thread, because GK isn't here.
As GK said, there are 3 scum in the game. OK, you have us as a scum read, awesome. If we are not present; why are you not trying to put effort into looking for the other 2.
Further, so it is CC who has a scum read on Rayn; no worries, I can wait for that.
What is *your* opinion on Rayn.
(moc)
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On April 14 2013 13:34 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
For just being a summary of what other people have said, why haven't you responded to it at all? You're not defending yourself, you don't seem to be scum hunting, your actions haven't been portraying a town mindset. Yet you seek to neither address any of that nor correct any of that.
Um...if you actually read my posts and my earlier ones, you'd see that I did respond to the allegations.
I have been scumhunting all game despite what people want to believe; just because I choose to focus my attention one person does not mean I'm not scumhunting. I already explained why I don't have a read on Rayn yet---it wasn't mine to begin with and I haven't looked elsewhere as of yet as I'm very busy atm. There is nothing wrong with my actions at all, and I'm not seeing what you find scummy about them. Just because I don't feel like posting a bunch of useless reads on a whole list of people without the time to actually delve into some filters (which is all you'd get right now if you really want it) does not make my actions scummy in the slightest.
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I think both mockarmor and woc are town, from skimming. Please look into each other critically.
Fmb and rayn are scum, you heard it here first!
Need to discuss with kush tho.
-v
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On April 14 2013 13:36 MockArmor wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2013 13:18 WaveOfCheesecake wrote:
You don't want me shitting up the thread? Posting random reads on other people like that giant fucking summary post seems a lot shittier to me than what I've been doing, and I don't feel like making random reads/lists just because someone doesn't feel I've done enough to them.
If you feel so strongly about this; why have you not pursued the giant fucking summary post originator? Instead you continue to make posts saying: Im playing with my dick in the thread, because GK isn't here. As GK said, there are 3 scum in the game. OK, you have us as a scum read, awesome. If we are not present; why are you not trying to put effort into looking for the other 2. Further, so it is CC who has a scum read on Rayn; no worries, I can wait for that. What is *your* opinion on Rayn. (moc) [/b]
On April 14 2013 11:12 InsertSmurfHere wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2013 11:05 John Matrix wrote:
It's extremely informative about my thought process in the early pages of the game, with detailed explanations on what is going on from my perspective.
Sure, if you're a lazy fuck and don't want to read it then it's not useful, but I think I've made some good progress with that post. It's a fucking summary post, I am not impressed whatsoever. I could write that as scum a million times over.Vivax is also not a good scum read in my opinion.
This is why, I haven't pursued him. I don't have more to add to that point atm, and I can honestly say diving into that pile of horseshit is about as appealing to me as arguing with you for three more hours.
If you want my read on Rayn you're going to have to wait a little while.
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On April 14 2013 13:39 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2013 13:34 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
For just being a summary of what other people have said, why haven't you responded to it at all? You're not defending yourself, you don't seem to be scum hunting, your actions haven't been portraying a town mindset. Yet you seek to neither address any of that nor correct any of that. Um...if you actually read my posts and my earlier ones, you'd see that I did respond to the allegations. I have been scumhunting all game despite what people want to believe; just because I choose to focus my attention one person does not mean I'm not scumhunting. I already explained why I don't have a read on Rayn yet---it wasn't mine to begin with and I haven't looked elsewhere as of yet as I'm very busy atm. There is nothing wrong with my actions at all, and I'm not seeing what you find scummy about them. Just because I don't feel like posting a bunch of useless reads on a whole list of people without the time to actually delve into some filters (which is all you'd get right now if you really want it) does not make my actions scummy in the slightest.
On April 14 2013 13:41 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2013 13:36 MockArmor wrote:On April 14 2013 13:18 WaveOfCheesecake wrote:
You don't want me shitting up the thread? Posting random reads on other people like that giant fucking summary post seems a lot shittier to me than what I've been doing, and I don't feel like making random reads/lists just because someone doesn't feel I've done enough to them.
If you feel so strongly about this; why have you not pursued the giant fucking summary post originator? Instead you continue to make posts saying: Im playing with my dick in the thread, because GK isn't here. As GK said, there are 3 scum in the game. OK, you have us as a scum read, awesome. If we are not present; why are you not trying to put effort into looking for the other 2. Further, so it is CC who has a scum read on Rayn; no worries, I can wait for that. What is *your* opinion on Rayn. (moc) Show nested quote +On April 14 2013 11:12 InsertSmurfHere wrote:On April 14 2013 11:05 John Matrix wrote:
It's extremely informative about my thought process in the early pages of the game, with detailed explanations on what is going on from my perspective.
Sure, if you're a lazy fuck and don't want to read it then it's not useful, but I think I've made some good progress with that post. It's a fucking summary post, I am not impressed whatsoever. I could write that as scum a million times over.Vivax is also not a good scum read in my opinion. This is why, I haven't pursued him. I don't have more to add to that point atm, and I can honestly say diving into that pile of horseshit is about as appealing to me as arguing with you for three more hours. If you want my read on Rayn you're going to have to wait a little while. [/b]
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A cursory read through Rayn's filter shows that Oats finds Mocsta scummy; since I have come to the same conclusions I'd be interested in discussing this with him. I personally don't find RM(hydra) scummy in the slightest.
Any other reads from him atm would be nice too.
Hell while I'm posting a whole bunch of old reads just to appease the masses, why not my read on DP/Palmar?
Palmar I have very little insight into, but (barring the very beginning of The Game) I'm pretty sure I can tell when DP is town, and so far he hasn't given me very much to work with. I am not a huge fan of the 'confirmed town' status though I admit it makes sense to me and I expressed my feelings as such to CC. I think this game is going to be a very good indication as to whether or not my meta reads have improved at all, despite it being a Hydra game.
John Matrix, finished reading the thread yet? I'm interested to see where FnB, MA, and I fall on your red/green scale.
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I don't care about your read on Rayn, what I care about is that nothing you have done seems to be with the agenda of either trying to apply pressure to get a read, trying to push a read or trying to do anything towny/productive. Everything in the whole MA/WoC spat reads to me as MA trying to apply pressure/get a read (townish but not wholly alignment indicative of Mocsta) and you just mindlessly doing nothing. There's been no pressure towards anyone; nothing you said towards MA was leading anywhere or to anything. There was no pressure from you whatsoever. Most of what I see is... "Ummm let me check with CC"... Do you need CC to give you a hand to piss too? Why is it that you feel like you can't be a big boy and act on your own? What are you afraid of?
<-- not Yamato before was me too
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Ok WoC, why do you find MA scummy?
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I don't have the time for this now; if I feel it's appropriate I will post the meta case I have on Mocsta tomorrow. I can't be drawin into a million-hour discussion with Mocsta atm; I have too much work to do. The whole point of CC's discussion with Mocsta (for me) was to keep him talking so I could find out more. I don't care what the rest of town thinks about that conversation; the two of us know what we're doing.
And where the fuck are you getting that I have to check everything through with CC? All I said was I don't know why he finds Rayn scummy because we never discussed it.
Actually fuck it, I'll post the short form without proof atm; that'll have to be enough for now. If my meta reads are still shit then they're shit but that's why I wanted to hear more from GK---I'm not 100% cemented on my scumread/meta read and I was hoping GK could confirm in for me one way or another, which it hasn't.
In short, two things. At the time of be making my meta case, Mocsta had already posted a ton without calling anyone scummy; just making careful posts and not giving a solid read on anyone. This is indicative of his early game scum play from both NMM 37 and Hydra I. As town he throws out reads left and right constantly and ACTUALLY MAKES CASES to follow up with his reads and endless lines of questioning, which he hasn't done here. He votes for us here without actually even calling us scum---obviously amounts to the same thing but rubs me the wrong way.
Another random interesting meta tidbit to mention is Mocsta often enters a thread with much fanfare and hysteria, regardless of alignment (though MORE likely to do so as town.)
Hydra mini I (scum) - was there when the game started, lots of trolling, lots of joking around.
The Game (town) - replaced sandro after a day or so, lots of joking, calling people scum, whatnot.
Nomination (town) - jovial lighthearted posting style, throwing votes and shit around at game entry.
NMM 37 (scum) - Enters the thread with lighthearted tone and RNG fluff.
This game he was not around when the game started, and you'll notice he did NOT joke around at all, rather he got supersrs right from the get-go. I believe this is because entering a game late as scum, he missed the 'permissible first few hours joking-around period' and doesn't want to start fooling around when people are actually having discussion for fear he will look scummy for trying to derail. NOTE: He had NO problem joking around in the middle of The Game when he entered because he was town and had no reason to be afraid or look guilty.
Make of this case what you will for now. I might be able to expand on it further with better proof (especially since people are unlikely to go sifting through his meta themselves). CC was asking me to post this much earlier when the discussion was happening but I didn't want to derail trying to learn what I could at the time. I figure it's better out than in right now especially given thread sentiment. I'm going to attempt to study then go to bed but I might be able to check back on the thread a couple more times.
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On April 14 2013 13:53 WaveOfCheesecake wrote:
A cursory read through Rayn's filter shows that Oats finds Mocsta scummy; since I have come to the same conclusions I'd be interested in discussing this with him. I personally don't find RM(hydra) scummy in the slightest.
Any other reads from him atm would be nice too.
Hell while I'm posting a whole bunch of old reads just to appease the masses, why not my read on DP/Palmar?
Palmar I have very little insight into, but (barring the very beginning of The Game) I'm pretty sure I can tell when DP is town, and so far he hasn't given me very much to work with. I am not a huge fan of the 'confirmed town' status though I admit it makes sense to me and I expressed my feelings as such to CC. I think this game is going to be a very good indication as to whether or not my meta reads have improved at all, despite it being a Hydra game.
John Matrix, finished reading the thread yet? I'm interested to see where FnB, MA, and I fall on your red/green scale.
Yeha I finished reading it. Palmar has a town read on FMB if I am not mistaken and I didn't find anything particularly scummy about them aside from their relative inactivity. MA, Raynmaster and SamuelLjackson are all people I am interested in right now.
Once again I would like to take a wait and see approach with you WoS although I haven't really played with cheesecake before I am pretty confident I will get a read on you as the game progresses.
To be honest a lot of that shit fight going on was boring and repetitive and really hard to take seriously. I really would rather not have to read through pages and pages of that kind of thing so If people could cut that out it would be great.
-DP
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DP, did you write that summary post? Or did Palmar write it?
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Why does EVERYONE not live in timezones that allows me to interact with dudes :/
Syllo and Sandro,
On April 14 2013 02:41 SamuelLJackson wrote:FondleMyButtocks looks suspicious. His bigger posts look constructed rather than free flowing and he isn't doing anything with his few other posts. Going after Vivax/kush hydra is fine, but his reasons look forced to me. Show nested quote +On April 13 2013 21:16 FondleMyButtocks wrote:On April 13 2013 08:40 VIVAX420 wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote MockArmor
Almost forgot that the guy found joining the pre-game banter funny but when the game started he didn't feel that much like joking. Must be discussing stuff elsewhere! the soft calling of someone as scum through the idea of 'posting somewhere else' of course they are posting somewhere else. I got a qt in my role pm. You got a qt too. We all did, its a hydra game! Stupid way to phrase this, it feels like over justification. It's not "soft calling" when you throw your vote down and stupid does not equal mafia. It was a short, semi serious early game vote post with only one justification. Not at all an "over justification", there was only one reason for the vote. His other reasons for finding vivax420 suspicious look similarly manufactured. The way he words his case and frames vivax420's posts overall does not feel genuine and open-minded (e.g. "supposed to be 420's concise thoughts", "even gives us a lynchable list"). The random comment about wanting to "almost" lynch GK for tradition's sake also looks like kind of fluff mafia likes to add to their post. Phagga are you going to write that mockarmor case?
why is this your only useful post? In over 30 hours of play, you have 1 post. This post is echoing town sentiment at that point too. Is this still current? Do you have any other reads?
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On April 14 2013 15:27 raynmaster wrote:
DP, did you write that summary post? Or did Palmar write it?
I sign my posts if I can otherwise i add it if i forget. Palmar wrote it that was the long way of saying.
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EBWOP. That was DP.
Also that post wasn't so much of a summary as an insight into the game as palmar read I believe.
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It was really fucking confusing.
Palmar why did you decide to post a summary of half the game?
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On April 14 2013 16:01 raynmaster wrote:
It was really fucking confusing.
Palmar why did you decide to post a summary of half the game?
You think it was scummy?
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On April 14 2013 16:10 John Matrix wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2013 16:01 raynmaster wrote:
It was really fucking confusing.
Palmar why did you decide to post a summary of half the game? You think it was scummy?
I think it was useless. Palmar rarely does useless things as far as I know. Its outdated information mainly. Thats the thing I dont understand. The game is up to page 30+, why only post 'analysis' of the first 18 or so pages? To show his 'thought process'? I dont believe that. I would like him to explain
/oats
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