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NeutralSrvivngBalrog
Kyrgyzstan43 Posts
On April 14 2013 06:48 FiveTouch wrote: Get rid of the clutter? ~marv T_T thats not very nice do you think i'm scum? (hint: when i'm town, show up in the thread not knowing whats going on, and find out im under suspicion, what do i do? this is a situation that has happened many times before, and im pretty sure it was in games with you) | ||
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SamuelLJackson
223 Posts
If no one claims shooting the nuke, not at all | ||
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
On April 14 2013 06:51 SamuelLJackson wrote: If no one claims shooting the nuke, not at all Well yes, but that's another piece of the puzzle entirely. ~marv P.S. s&b I don't really care, if you make me think you're not mafia I'll stop voting for you, it's a pretty simple process. | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
On April 14 2013 01:42 WaveOfCheesecake wrote: Idk MockArmor, looks like you wanted to push a misslynch on Hapa, then he retaliated and you decided to give him a town read for appeasement. I really hate this post for obvious reasons. WoS has been acting oddly in the least IMO; CC I don't know anything about. The "towniest of towny" quote preceding it seems odd considering much of the previous relevant discussion was regarding perceived Hapa scumminess, but includes 0 reasoning for said read. On April 14 2013 03:48 WaveOfCheesecake wrote: None of that is indicative of anything whatsoever, Mocsta; CC and I have been talking throughout this conversation you've been having with him. He's just writing stuff, possibly while high, and we have slightly differing views on what your conversation has meant thus far. Let me go through it with you though, since you don't seem to understand his point of view: First CC thought you were scummy, now he thinks you're town. The quote where he says he never thought you were town? He meant before, you know, when he thought you were scummy. What's the deal with you attempting to turn everything we say around on us though? I can't be sure of what CC thinks of you right now, but you've been null-leaning scum for me for ages, including now. My issue with this post and the whole MA-WoC interaction is that it doesn't feel at all like WoC is trying to divine MA's alignment whatsoever. I don't feel like despite WoS thinking MA is scummy like he's doing anything to either glean information or wagon form. It just looks to me like he's trying to do things that appear to be townie but has no heart in it. <-not Yamato | ||
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VIVAX420
556 Posts
kush | ||
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VIVAX420
556 Posts
but I like how you pointed out that pushing a mislynch on hapa line. that is a scumslip imo. | ||
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VIVAX420
556 Posts
##vote woc[/b] | ||
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WaveOfCheesecake
109 Posts
~CC | ||
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InsertSmurfHere
288 Posts
On April 14 2013 07:06 geript wrote: I really hate this post for obvious reasons. WoS has been acting oddly in the least IMO; CC I don't know anything about. The "towniest of towny" quote preceding it seems odd considering much of the previous relevant discussion was regarding perceived Hapa scumminess, but includes 0 reasoning for said read. My issue with this post and the whole MA-WoC interaction is that it doesn't feel at all like WoC is trying to divine MA's alignment whatsoever. I don't feel like despite WoS thinking MA is scummy like he's doing anything to either glean information or wagon form. It just looks to me like he's trying to do things that appear to be townie but has no heart in it. <-not Yamato Qff | ||
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VIVAX420
556 Posts
If I were you guys I would prob want to lynch vivax because I don't know his meta at all and how he is playing looks scummy to me. | ||
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VIVAX420
556 Posts
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
John Matrix (1): InsertSmurfHere WaveofCheesecake (2): MockArmor, Vivax420 ShotgunBiceps (1): John Matrix Vivax420 (1): FondleMyButtocks NeutralSrvivingBalrog (1): FiveTouch Not Voting (5): SamuelLJackson, Raynmaster, NeutralSrvivngBalrog, ShotgunBiceps, WaveofCheesecake Message if wrong, 6 needed for lynch, etc etc 24 hours till deadline, 12 hours till nuke-line. | ||
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John Matrix
163 Posts
Touchey kept talking to no one but himself and claimed innocent too, and Biceps promptly called Touchey a liar and voted for him. CheeseWave wanted to make sure that Biceps wasn't stealing his line, and then, like so many others, decided to tell everyone he's town. I looked with a funny face on the drawn out "Aaaaaaaand" in their townclaim, but it's probably nothing I need to worry about for now. Vivax likes popcorn, but clearly popcorn does not please Touchey who voted him for eating popcorn, meanwhile Biceps and Smurf agreed to the terms of their alliance, namely, murdering the Balrog. I mentally noted here that Biceps repeated the voting bloc question, meaning he for one reason or another is actually looking for Smurf to join him on the quest to lynch scum. Buttocks decided to comment on the obvious that with so many self-claimed townies there wouldn't be many scum left, but honestly, only 3 players had claimed town by that point. Touchey decided to call out Biceps for his attempt at creating a voting block, and Buttocks in turn called out Touchey for being overly serious. Meanwhile CheeseWave randomly voted for Mock, who still hadn't at this time shown his face in the thread. Touchey felt the need to explain his seriousness to Buttocks and attributed it to the fact that people lynch him all the time. Smurf in the next post accepted Bicep's alliance. Once again this seems to indicate that they are almost definitely not scum together. Smurf decided to ask Touchey just how involved he'd be in the game. Buttocks made two useless posts in a row, and Touchey bragged about how his own prowess at mafia would certainly lead to the mafia not shooting him (???). Touchey then calls out Buttocks for posting nothing of value. Vivax returned to the thread with a silly joke followed by Biceps asking about Mock who still was absent at this point. Biceps also seems to have a pretty convinced town read on Smurf. Vivax then clarified that his joke was a joke, no one knows why, but Smurf's question leading to it was somewhat stupid. Balrog decided to ask what "Bish" means, to be honest I wondered what the fuck that was too. Vivax kept explaining that his joke had in fact been a joke. But then he continues trolling when Biceps asks him for the identity of the hydra head. Smurf decided to inquire about Bicep's early attempts to ally with him, to which Biceps explains he wanted to ally with just about anyone that wasn't Touchey. Balrog makes another complete shitpost with some kind of an ascii image that doesn't work in my browser so I had to paste it in a text editor that has a monospace font to find out it was indeed just a stupid fucking eye. Smurf keeps inquiring about Biceps' alliance with him, asking why Biceps wouldn't want to ally up with Touchey, but Biceps somewhat avoids the question with an answer that's clearly not very serious. I'm starting to think if there is mafia in that pairing of players it isn't Smurf. CheeseWave asked a question I don't understand, while Vivax still seemed perfectly happy to just joke around. Smurf keeps making decent points about Biceps' alliance request and points out that Biceps' joke answer wasn't entirely true. I'm not sure this gives any indication to Biceps' alignment, but it makes me think Smurf could be town. CheeseWave is still trolling and Vivax is being completely useless, just voting for people who aren't present at the time. I raise my eyebrow again at Biceps' acceptance of CheeseWave's terrible point about the innuendos of the names in the thread. But I'm not sure it means much. I'm much more concerned about Vivax's continued uselessness and attempts at contributing through poking people that aren't there to answer for themselves. Touchey seems bored by the current discussion, but Biceps calls him out for it on a somewhat weak basis, although I agree that Touchey's post was shit, and Touchey immediately calls Biceps out again for this. Vivax's addition to the discussion are still completely irrelevant. Touchey also calls Smurf out for asking questions without context. Biceps further explains his stance against Touchey's boredom comment basing it on the fact that Touchey likes silly banter and spam in general. But Touchey seems to not think it makes Biceps scum. Vivax once again chimes in to agree Touchey doesn't have to be scum based on the Boredom comment. Then he decides again to throw his vote on someone that isn't there at the time. Smurf clarifies he's questioning Biceps and that was the reason for his strange question that Touchey called him out on, while Biceps asks Smurf about his opinion on Touchey. I'm getting the feeling that those three might all be town, even with the strange things I saw out of Biceps. Vivax comments on Touchey's meta to justify his earlier comment that Touchey isn't scum because he is bored. Smurf answers Biceps and makes it known he does not agree at all with Biceps' suspicions of Touchey, and then calls out Vivax for misrepresenting Touchey's meta. I agree that Vivax's comment is in fact not how Touchey usually plays and that makes his explanation more sketchy. At this point I entered the thread, with nothing but a single hello, followed by an attempt to kill Touchey because lulz. Smurf's line of questioning of Biceps is very aggressive and I like it, although I'm not sure Biceps is scum because of it. But he certainly could be. Vivax incorrectly interprets Smurf's disagreement with Biceps' about Touchey as an attempt to buddy up with Touchey, this actually looks pretty bad for Vivax. Biceps even further clarifies his suspicions of Touchey, but Touchey responds to my fake nuke in a way that I like. CheeseWave decided at this point to hop back into the thread to agree with Smurf that Touchey's boredom comment isn't of much value, but also thinks Biceps' suspicions are not indicative of Biceps' alignment. The former allies, Biceps and Smurf keep going after one another. Also I'd like to make a note here that given the fact that Biceps started this whole shitfest by calling out Touchey, it's unlikely Biceps and Touchey are scum together. Once again I think the most reasonable explanation is that they're all town. The hosts accidentally confirmed me town for my fake nuke, thanks buddies. Once again Vivax enters the thread with what seems to be very misinformed opinion. He calls Smurf out for defending Touchey, when in reality Smurf wasn't so much defending Touchey as he was questioning Biceps' logic in calling out Touchey, it's a completely different issue. Smurf even explained this a few posts down. Vivax is being pretty persistant in his claim that Smurf is defending Touchey. I very much don't think it's a defense, or rather that the defense is not the core of the issue. Smurf seems pretty convinced Biceps is scum because of his buddying and the boredom case against Touchey. It's not a terrible case, I still think Biceps is more likely to be town and I think Vivax is the one that looks worse than anyone else in the thread at this point. That doesn't seem to stop past me voting for Biceps anyway based on Smurf's case. Balrog chimes in with nothing of value to add to the conversation, while I keep telling town I'm confirmed. It's a good tactic because if I say it often enough they'll probably believe it. And I call Balrog scum. The argument post Smurf's case raged on in town. Smurf seems pretty certain that Biceps is scum and pressures him quite heavily. I like how this reinforces my original observation that at least one of them must be town. Vivax once again makes a pretty bland comment to the discussion, he's really just skirting around whatever is happening. At this point in the thread I would probably lynch him over anyone else. He wants Touchey to be suspicious that Smurf is defending him, but Smurf's logic is perfectly sound in my opinion and there is nothing to be suspicious of. I call out Touchey for some reason, based on his seriousness, I guess. Maybe I'm right? Biceps makes the conclusion based on Smurf's case that Smurf must be town. This is a good conclusion but I need to understand the reasons for it. To be honest Biceps' defense hasn't been that bad really, as he explained in a pretty good way that he's using probability and note definite values to determine whether or not Touchey's commend about being bored was scummy. Fivetouch regains control of the situation and starts attacking Biceps for his insistance that the boredom comment is scummy. Once again I get the feeling it's a town v town v town scenario. I seem to agree that the boredom comment was scummy. Shame on me, I guess. Smurf calls me out for the comments about Touchey not being serious, I think it's not bad that he calls me out like that and I like it. Vivax comes in to explain his bullshit once again and to summarize the situation. I really want to kill this guy. Wish I had a nuke now. Biceps responds to Touchey's attacks in a way that makes me again think it's unlikely Biceps is scum. He seems really insistant that he's correct about this thing and he looks like he genuinely believes he is in fact correct. Now Vivax pops in to try to direct how Biceps continues his argument. Not sure why. Biceps somewhat ignores him and keeps defending his argument. I'm not sure how and why Biceps would not just let it go at this point. He's not going to nail anyone with this case, so it's better to just move on. Smurf reaffirms his suspicions that Biceps is scum. I seem to like Vivax's post. Apparently I'm terrible at mafia. Biceps keeps trying to engage Touchey, while Touchey claims he's ready to talk. Past me seems to think everyone wanting to lynch me is bad, but Smurf notices how I'm being a useless shit and calls me out on it. I'm tempted to skip forward here. I feel like I have a pretty reasonable conclusion from this first part of the day on the players that have seen fit to contribute. This summary of the game ends about half way through page 18. My reads of the game at that point are: Touchey Biceps Smurf Balrog Vivax notice that the read on balrog is much weaker, but I have decided that in this game I'm only going to use two different notations, town or scum. No null tells, no leaning X, just town or scum if I had to answer right now. | ||
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
That was surprisingly unhelpful and weird. ~marv | ||
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
On April 13 2013 23:09 FiveTouch wrote: My vote on Palmar was based on the (perhaps foolhardy) belief that I can make Palmar contribute with pressure. I share the belief that he's most likely town based on mod-action, but I'm so fucking sick of him not doing shit on D1 and then DYING. He only does that shit because you shits let him. "Oh it's Palmar you know, whatever right?" No one wants to make him EARN the N1 shot, in spite of him soaking it up all the time. Well I want him to earn that shit. He needs to stop being a useless fuck - especially now that he's confirmed town. Stop being a useless little shit Palmar. So VE claimed that he only voted JM and pretended to think JM was scummy in order to pressure Palmar into being more active. I am having trouble believing that. fivetouch | ||
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
-kushbtw | ||
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WaveOfCheesecake
109 Posts
On April 14 2013 07:08 VIVAX420 wrote: ger use smurf! but I like how you pointed out that pushing a mislynch on hapa line. that is a scumslip imo. lolwut? First of all that 'scumslip' was CC, not me. Second of all, wut? Third of all, oh boy, I get to look forward to Geript's shit scum reads on me all game long again that are based on absolutely nothing JUST for a change of pace from like, every other game I've been in with him. Does Yamato know you voted me? Trust me geript, my heart is in it as much as it can be right now. GK isn't back so there's nothing for me to continue to push atm but I will. Good to see you've put a lot of effort into your read on me though. | ||
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
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WaveOfCheesecake
109 Posts
On April 14 2013 10:46 kushm4sta wrote: WOW no you are going to continue to push MA? please please don't. Your back and forth shit up the thread so bad today. Do you realize how unpleasant it is trying to read through that? lol I will do whatever the fuck I want. Besides the shitting up the thread part is usually on Mocsta's head, not mine. I want GK. Do you realize how scummy it sounds when you ask me to not to pressure my scumread? | ||
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InsertSmurfHere
288 Posts
What the fuck is that giant summary post doing in my town? Goddamn I could lynch him JUST for that post. Why the fuck are Kush, GK/CC, and Mocsta shitting the thread up like it's their fucking job? So many questions, only one lynch to sort them out. | ||
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